He bitched out early on then saw the backlash & was like - oh shit I need to recover.
Better that he came around eventually but the fact that it TOOK the backlash to make it happen showed that he lacked principles to stand up to the white women at Twitter who rebelled against him.
To be fair, the entire Trust and Safety team got fired during the process. They claim they resigned, but you know that's code words for getting sacked.
The head of that team that got The Quartering and Brittany axed is gone along with several of the people who worked below her.
And accepting zero stepping stone victories while you wait for perfect will only create a longer battle with more suffering for everyone, for no actual gain.
I haven't been following, but did he publicly take a stance against "What is a woman"? Don't find it hard to believe there are still jannies at Twitter censoring things they don't like.
No, he didn't. In fact, he's doing everything he can to make sure it gets shown as planned without overstepping his own authority and pissing off the revenue sources.
He originally tweeted out about that Twitter would be employing a "free speech, not reach" strategy with Matt Walsh's video and posts last night. Giving the justification that people had the right not to be exposed to "sensitive" content.
Meaning The Daily Wire's tweets regarding the event wouldn't be shown to anyone who didn't already follow The Daily Wire.
So effectively shadowbanning.
And they didn't even deliver on that, as comments, RTs etc remained banned during the movie's anniversary stream to even followers who sought it out.
This isn't the "Gotcha!" you, and apparently the other people in this thread, think it is. Elon hasn't "backtracked" on anything in this case. He said the "hate speech" label applied to the video was a mistake, which was corrected. I don't know if it's a coincidence that the head of Twitter's Trust and Safety is now no longer with the company. It seems like incidents of censorship of Right-leaning figures are typically accompanied by another Twitter employee being promoted to customer.
If you're referring to this follow-up tweet, thats not a backtrack. Elon can support something, while simultaneously acknowledging that the video is considered "sensitive content" that won't be promoted by the algorithm. He can personally promote said content if he chooses to. Any argument about him supposedly "flip-flopping" holds no weight here. If any argument could be made, it's that referring to "What is a Woman?" as "sensitive content" is absolutely absurd in the face of what our children are being exposed to, and what is being done to them.
Lastly, I feel compelled to remind everyone here that it was never confirmed that Twitter agreed to promote "What is a Woman?"
A previous Tweet stated it was not going to anyone’s feeds unless they literally looked for it or follow Daily Wire, shadow banning the video. If him posting the video directly to his feed is not backtracking, I‘m not sure what is.
We’re updating the system tomorrow so that those who follow @realDailyWire will see this in their feed, but it won’t be recommended to non-followers (nor will any advertising be associated with it)
The system, or algorithm, won't promote the video. He never claimed it would. He also never said "I won't recommend this video."
If that’s the case, then Elon did not explain the situation clearly. It read like it was his decision to prevent it from being seen publicly and not a faulty system issue.
Its also Twitter. Its pathetic that we are treating random tweets on the same level as coherently thought out corporate statements.
People aren't wrong to be doing so, because we live in the worst timeline, as it happens all the time but once you've reached that point you are also on the "cofveve is National News" train.
Yes, because he's being forced into this situation by a group that most likely made false claims about an agreement with Twitter, and a subversive element that still exists within the company. There's a difference between having to put out fires, and expecting him to rewrite their whole code to accommodate Daily Wire.
Twitter is a social media platform with millions of users across hundreds of nations, used by varying individuals and entities for an equally varying number of reasons. Twitter needs people in place to ensure everything they do complies with the laws and regulations of all these countries, and to ensure that it isn't being used to facilitate illegal activity.
Is he going back and forth, or are you wilfully misinterpreting things that don't fully support your perspective? All I've seen is that he knows outright censoring of it was wrong, and that he warned there might be limited reach due to advertisers making sure they aren't associated with it (they have that right whether you like it or not).
A lot of people ignore that advertising and marketing is 100% pozzed. The advertiser's "rules" regarding what is advertiser friendly or sensitive content are not consistent or logical. Hate speech against straight white men and gratuitous sexual posts are ok. Calling a man in drag a man is violent hate speech. One will cause dangerous trannies to unite and stir up a fake controversy using their friends in media, which their friends in marketing use to tell their bosses to pull ads. The other does nothing because the media are fine with children consuming pornography and genocide of the White race.
Now if you think he should tell the advertisers to suck an egg and go elsewhere if they don't like freedom of speech, that's a reasonable argument. If twitter is able to run a highly profitable business that way (like Gab) then that's the honest way to go.
It's worth remembering that Elon isn't /our guy/, but he at least seems interested in hearing from more than just a single side. That's just my read on it.
The problem is, that's been the MO of the Left for decades.
Remember when Jon Steward seemed to be in favour of free speech and limited government power...until his team was the one calling the shots? And he's far from alone.
I'm not saying that's the case with Musk but, at this point, if you aren't vehemently and unequivocably fighting for clear principals, the benefit of the doubt is gone.
As for this movie, despite some qualms I have with Matt Walsh, I wouldn't rate it more than PG. IIRC, there are no pics of post surgery genitals or anything; maybe some swearing, and a couple things I would clarify for a child who wasn't familiar with the situation.
I can't think of a reason any 13yo would be in any way traumatized by this movie; it's basically a bunch of interviews.
Because alt tech attracts smooth-brained rightoid manchildren with a horrendously skewed sense of entitlement. As bad as mainstream options are, rife with leftist degeneracy and absolutely delusional perspectives, it's still hard to convince normal people to make the switch when they see the kind of people that occupy sites like this. That says a lot. People here call Right-leaning men in healthy relationships "cucks" because they don't go out and commit assault or murder of a transsexual, homosexual, or Jew, or spend hours on end ranting about how said thing needs to happen. I'd be considered extreme by Centrist standards, and even I tire of rightoid antics.
It's not like he's personally limiting the number of people that can see it. When something is determined to be "sensitive content", the audience is limited by the algorithm to those who subscribe to the creators of that content, and whomever "follows" those that share the content. Elon can choose to share that content with his audience if he chooses.
I admittedly haven't seen "What is a Woman?" yet, so I can't say what in the video could be considered objectionable.
s not like he's personally limiting the number of people that can see it
What the fuck are you talking about? It's exactly like that. He's the CEO and if he wanted to remove the restrictions that are impacting this video he could.
He had the "hate speech" designation removed from the video. To "remove the restrictions" at this point would be to completely eliminate filters put in place limiting reach for obscene content, allowing it to run rampant on the site. He's not going to do that. He shouldn't do that.
He's personally limiting it by leaving those filters in place. That's all I was saying which you seem to agree with, so not sure why you said he isn't in your other comment.
If you were conspiracy brained you could make a good theory about this whole thing being a fake controversy to drum up extra viral marketing attention for the movie.
Why was he personally involved in the first place if there wasn't some sort of partnership or arrangement going on between him and DW?
The other explanation is he had a woke Trust and Safety lead who just Striesanded the hell out of this but, again, he was personally tweeting about it before any censorship happened.
He just had to figure out whether would be more profitable in aggregate this week to be a lefty or righty on this issue. His researchers (who he also just fired cuz I’m Elon damnit) gave him the numbers and though online it’s very close, it’s still more profitable to believe in biology right now.
Careful now Elon, lest you break your neck from all that back-and-forth whiplash.
Elon Musk be like
He bitched out early on then saw the backlash & was like - oh shit I need to recover.
Better that he came around eventually but the fact that it TOOK the backlash to make it happen showed that he lacked principles to stand up to the white women at Twitter who rebelled against him.
Let's hope he at least fires them.
He’s got a windshield wiper of a mind.
To be fair, the entire Trust and Safety team got fired during the process. They claim they resigned, but you know that's code words for getting sacked.
The head of that team that got The Quartering and Brittany axed is gone along with several of the people who worked below her.
To be fair, I don't want apologies, I want them to not push leftist bullshit from the beginning.
Unfortunately you are gonna be waiting a long time then.
At least actual backtracking has a tangible, if pathetic looking, effect on the world over apologizing.
It's not about waiting. It's about refusal. Bend the knee once, never stop bending.
And accepting zero stepping stone victories while you wait for perfect will only create a longer battle with more suffering for everyone, for no actual gain.
It's not a stepping stone victory st all. Constantly compromising for nothing is how cuckservatives got us to the edge of this cliff as it is.
Really? Because it looks like the movie got out, he didn't censor it, and even promoted it to far more people than would have seen it otherwise.
Your principles got us attacking a man for changing his position in our favor, because I'm sure that will make him more on our side going forward.
His neck is already spun right 'round. Make of that what you will.
Given how many turns this has taken in less than 24 hours, I don't give a shit anymore and will check back in a week if there is a final result.
It's like asking a woman what takeaway to order..
Certainly keeps twitter in the news don't it
The head of the Trust and Safety "council" was a woman, and her and the people near her got sacked.
They need to get a fucking MAGA conservative or a nationalist as the head of that fucking team.
I'd settle for an AI made in Asia or Middle East, of just bring back Tay un-lobotomised to handle Twitter 'Trust and safety'
I haven't been following, but did he publicly take a stance against "What is a woman"? Don't find it hard to believe there are still jannies at Twitter censoring things they don't like.
No, he didn't. In fact, he's doing everything he can to make sure it gets shown as planned without overstepping his own authority and pissing off the revenue sources.
Figured. Thanks for the confirmation though.
He originally tweeted out about that Twitter would be employing a "free speech, not reach" strategy with Matt Walsh's video and posts last night. Giving the justification that people had the right not to be exposed to "sensitive" content.
Meaning The Daily Wire's tweets regarding the event wouldn't be shown to anyone who didn't already follow The Daily Wire.
So effectively shadowbanning.
And they didn't even deliver on that, as comments, RTs etc remained banned during the movie's anniversary stream to even followers who sought it out.
But then he went back on that recently and now it's got 48 million views so...
I'm glad he changed his mind and it had a Streisand effect.
But Elon's original take was still fake and gay.
This isn't the "Gotcha!" you, and apparently the other people in this thread, think it is. Elon hasn't "backtracked" on anything in this case. He said the "hate speech" label applied to the video was a mistake, which was corrected. I don't know if it's a coincidence that the head of Twitter's Trust and Safety is now no longer with the company. It seems like incidents of censorship of Right-leaning figures are typically accompanied by another Twitter employee being promoted to customer.
If you're referring to this follow-up tweet, thats not a backtrack. Elon can support something, while simultaneously acknowledging that the video is considered "sensitive content" that won't be promoted by the algorithm. He can personally promote said content if he chooses to. Any argument about him supposedly "flip-flopping" holds no weight here. If any argument could be made, it's that referring to "What is a Woman?" as "sensitive content" is absolutely absurd in the face of what our children are being exposed to, and what is being done to them.
Lastly, I feel compelled to remind everyone here that it was never confirmed that Twitter agreed to promote "What is a Woman?"
A previous Tweet stated it was not going to anyone’s feeds unless they literally looked for it or follow Daily Wire, shadow banning the video. If him posting the video directly to his feed is not backtracking, I‘m not sure what is.
The system, or algorithm, won't promote the video. He never claimed it would. He also never said "I won't recommend this video."
If that’s the case, then Elon did not explain the situation clearly. It read like it was his decision to prevent it from being seen publicly and not a faulty system issue.
Elon not being able to explain things clearly seems to be kinda his thing. He's a literal autist after all lol
Its also Twitter. Its pathetic that we are treating random tweets on the same level as coherently thought out corporate statements.
People aren't wrong to be doing so, because we live in the worst timeline, as it happens all the time but once you've reached that point you are also on the "cofveve is National News" train.
At least this made so much noise it got 125 mil hits... the fuckup actually helped lmao
It only reads like that to ignorant rightoids who think a CEO of a company as large as Twitter is going to micromanage everything all the time.
Is that not literally what he's doing in this case?
Yes, because he's being forced into this situation by a group that most likely made false claims about an agreement with Twitter, and a subversive element that still exists within the company. There's a difference between having to put out fires, and expecting him to rewrite their whole code to accommodate Daily Wire.
why does twitter even need a "trust and safety" team?
Twitter is a social media platform with millions of users across hundreds of nations, used by varying individuals and entities for an equally varying number of reasons. Twitter needs people in place to ensure everything they do complies with the laws and regulations of all these countries, and to ensure that it isn't being used to facilitate illegal activity.
Is he going back and forth, or are you wilfully misinterpreting things that don't fully support your perspective? All I've seen is that he knows outright censoring of it was wrong, and that he warned there might be limited reach due to advertisers making sure they aren't associated with it (they have that right whether you like it or not).
A lot of people ignore that advertising and marketing is 100% pozzed. The advertiser's "rules" regarding what is advertiser friendly or sensitive content are not consistent or logical. Hate speech against straight white men and gratuitous sexual posts are ok. Calling a man in drag a man is violent hate speech. One will cause dangerous trannies to unite and stir up a fake controversy using their friends in media, which their friends in marketing use to tell their bosses to pull ads. The other does nothing because the media are fine with children consuming pornography and genocide of the White race.
Now if you think he should tell the advertisers to suck an egg and go elsewhere if they don't like freedom of speech, that's a reasonable argument. If twitter is able to run a highly profitable business that way (like Gab) then that's the honest way to go.
Elon is going back and forth so hard, that he might actually launch himself to Mars if he's not properly secured to the ground.
8D Chess. That was his plan all along.
It's worth remembering that Elon isn't /our guy/, but he at least seems interested in hearing from more than just a single side. That's just my read on it.
The problem is, that's been the MO of the Left for decades.
Remember when Jon Steward seemed to be in favour of free speech and limited government power...until his team was the one calling the shots? And he's far from alone.
I'm not saying that's the case with Musk but, at this point, if you aren't vehemently and unequivocably fighting for clear principals, the benefit of the doubt is gone.
As for this movie, despite some qualms I have with Matt Walsh, I wouldn't rate it more than PG. IIRC, there are no pics of post surgery genitals or anything; maybe some swearing, and a couple things I would clarify for a child who wasn't familiar with the situation.
I can't think of a reason any 13yo would be in any way traumatized by this movie; it's basically a bunch of interviews.
So why the censorship?
I don't know why this somehow means "go out of your way to make entirely disingenuous statements to make him look evil."
Because this site is full of people that are no different to those they claim to hate.
Because alt tech attracts smooth-brained rightoid manchildren with a horrendously skewed sense of entitlement. As bad as mainstream options are, rife with leftist degeneracy and absolutely delusional perspectives, it's still hard to convince normal people to make the switch when they see the kind of people that occupy sites like this. That says a lot. People here call Right-leaning men in healthy relationships "cucks" because they don't go out and commit assault or murder of a transsexual, homosexual, or Jew, or spend hours on end ranting about how said thing needs to happen. I'd be considered extreme by Centrist standards, and even I tire of rightoid antics.
Holy fuck elon is such a nimrod.
He limits its reach, but then says every parent should watch it... He makes no sense.
He limits the reach then blasts it out to 141 million followers.
That doesn't really sound like limiting it's reach.
It's not like he's personally limiting the number of people that can see it. When something is determined to be "sensitive content", the audience is limited by the algorithm to those who subscribe to the creators of that content, and whomever "follows" those that share the content. Elon can choose to share that content with his audience if he chooses.
I admittedly haven't seen "What is a Woman?" yet, so I can't say what in the video could be considered objectionable.
What the fuck are you talking about? It's exactly like that. He's the CEO and if he wanted to remove the restrictions that are impacting this video he could.
He had the "hate speech" designation removed from the video. To "remove the restrictions" at this point would be to completely eliminate filters put in place limiting reach for obscene content, allowing it to run rampant on the site. He's not going to do that. He shouldn't do that.
He's personally limiting it by leaving those filters in place. That's all I was saying which you seem to agree with, so not sure why you said he isn't in your other comment.
Whoosh
I hate stupid rightoids so fucking much.
Either explain how I'm wrong or shut the fuck up
I just did, and in that time you decided to iron the wrinkles out of your brain.
Even the local politicians near me don't go back and forth this much
If you were conspiracy brained you could make a good theory about this whole thing being a fake controversy to drum up extra viral marketing attention for the movie.
He did just retweet the movie to 141 million followers...
Is that not just the obvious conclusion?
Why was he personally involved in the first place if there wasn't some sort of partnership or arrangement going on between him and DW?
The other explanation is he had a woke Trust and Safety lead who just Striesanded the hell out of this but, again, he was personally tweeting about it before any censorship happened.
I'm going to get more extra salty popcorn. This is going to be good.
He just had to figure out whether would be more profitable in aggregate this week to be a lefty or righty on this issue. His researchers (who he also just fired cuz I’m Elon damnit) gave him the numbers and though online it’s very close, it’s still more profitable to believe in biology right now.