Unironically what it's probably going to take and what may well happen. No matter what they and their simps say, the vast majority of women will fall in line when pushed into it by truly strong and authoritative men, and in fact the louder they bitch about being stronk independent girlbosses who don't need no man, the more likely they are to secretly crave male domination or straight up have rape fantasies.
Twilight & 50 Shades were mega-hits despite our age being one where feminism had been ascendant for almost a century with no significant reverses. Hell, history shows as much: during the Spanish Civil War the Nationalists had a habit of stripping anarchist milicianas and making them drink castor oil so they'd have to crawl around naked & shit themselves in public, and yet those supposed revolutionary girlbosses didn't choose to fight to the death or go to a mass grave (as plenty of Republican men did) to avoid such indignity. Most just bowed to Franco's regime and became meek tradwives or at least inoffensive spinsters in the decades which followed!
I do believe that once a critical mass of conservative young men come of age and decide to tear the incumbent rotten system asunder, the women will roll out the welcome mat for them. They're gonna give as much of a shit about any soy elemental simp claiming to fight for said system and their supposed rights as those milicianas did about their menfolk or, indeed, the pre-Indo-European matriarchs did when the Indo-Europeans rolled in at the start of the Bronze Age (hence the often-radical changes in European genetics from the latter's invasion onward, they routinely killed the pre-Indo-European men and took the women, and also passed property & titles down strictly patrilineally) - none at all.
and yet those supposed revolutionary girlbosses didn't choose to fight to the death or go to a mass grave
Next you'll tell me all the women of France weren't super secret double agents working for the Resistance against the Nazis, getting raped for the greater good to stay alive and continue their Mega Awesome Spy Activities. Who would ever guess women would sell out their country, men, and every principle/dignity just to preserve their lives by serving the enemy?
"Women understand their value, and will attempt to survive by placating the person who has already captured them."
And running it to Imp's position of:
"Women's only goal is to murder their husbands, sons, and fathers, then have their daughters be raped. This is their goal in life, and they support their rapists and favor rape."
Stop.
Women do not want to be raped. Women do not support themselves being raped.
There is a major distinction between explicitly mentally ill Leftist women who are fetishizing rape fantasies because they've been groomed and abused by the Left, and are responding with a coping mechanism to a lack of masculinity in their lives, is not an inherent feature of women.
Women do fight, women do resist, and women do try to defend their children and families. They also tend to attack women whom collaborate. See the "Liberation of Paris" for what happens when women target women who collaborated with the Nazis.
As others have already noted, women are more susceptible to authoritarianism and emotional manipulation. This also applies to torture. Men are not a sex of slaves, simply because men can be enslaved, abused, humiliated, and owned with the appropriate amount of psychological abuse. Women being intentionally kept alive because of their value as mothers, and then being tortured into submission, is not evidence of women wanting that to happen to them.
It's discussions like this where we have to bring back the old ideas of the id and the ego, or lizard-brain as it seems to be called now.
Everything you're talking about is happening at the ego level. That's irrelevant. The ego level is an unreliable narrator that will perform whatever gymnastics are necessary to restore what Clarey calls "perfect mental state".
When we talk about wants, we're really talking about the id level.
"Women's only goal is to murder their husbands, sons, and fathers, then have their daughters be raped. This is their goal in life, and they support their rapists and favor rape."
Its amazing you took what I said and ran it to this wild of a position. Good job rush to their aid when someone implies they might not be perfect heroes as the narratives paint them.
Its almost a perfect encapsulation of how Feminism has managed to succeed for so long that it became Intersectionality and from there The Woke:
I think women are flawed and painting themselves in a better life than reality at times
Oh so you think women are evil monsters who enjoy rape and scheme to hurt men?!
I've been doing this for longer than Imp's been alive. You aren't going to make me feel bad about being an ebil misogynist.
I didn't say they enjoyed being raped. I said they were raped because they were unwilling to fight to the death, and losing dignity and principles was worth prolonging their lives, only to then have history pretend they were doing it "for the cause."
But I said meanie things about women, so you skipped by all that to try and scare me by comparing me to Imp.
You can literally see the line for women fluctuate almost perfectly with which party was in office right up until Occupy Wall Street. Then the propaganda starts going off the rails, which is where you see the split. In contrast, the men tended to fluctuate a little less while being more conservative overall.
Funny how 2014 seems to be this magical year where everyone loses their fucking minds.
bro nobody gave a shit about some dumb video game drama in 2014-15.
it was BLM, the Obama 2nd term, the crushing of the Tea Party, the beginnings of the LGBT hysteria & similar big, meaningful shit that all started around 2012.
not some fat cow fucking 5 ugly "games journalists"
Gamergate didn't start it, it was an outgrowth of a fire that had already started burning on the Left.
True, sometimes people forget that 2014's GamerGate was a result of the bizarre propaganda we'd already been seeing for... two years... starting in 2012.
Most gamers weren't noticing because they were Left-Libertarian and were already being exposed to the propaganda. They just didn't think it needed to be part of every waking moment of their life.
On the contrary. Women's support for political party is in line with marriage.
Unmarried women always lean left, married women always lean right. Young, never married women are hard left. Older, once and currently married women, are right-wing.
You can watch as women, demographically, go from left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left based on: never married, married, divorced, twice married, twice divorced, three times married, 4 times divorced (no accurate statistical data after that).
Once teen boys learn that being a feminist isn't going to get them laid the Manosphere and right wing in general are obviously going to be highly appealing to them, if only because the other side hates them so much.
Masculine and feminine differences were always a factor in voting but with everyone hyper-politicized now the ideological lines are hardening into those tribes more than around economics or other political issues. Social media has accelerated the spread of Globohomo but it also allows a lot of red-pill/MRA groups to thrive and connect young men together to express feelings that in the past were entirely stamped out by liberal orthodoxy. (aka Feminism)
And I can just imagine the soybeard redditors in the right bar snorting at the question and thinking "LITERALLY JUST DONT RAPE WOMEN BRO ITS NOT HARD".
Good to know that and don’t forget about the school board members or the community managers. Used what little power you have now before they take that away.
Its always been that way. A feminist abusing her position of power is what dug my first stake into misogyny as a young lad, instead of just falling into the "this particular woman is bad" trap. And that was decades ago.
In this decades since, I can count on one hand the amount of similar MRAs, anti-feminists, or whatever particular group I was hanging around in who didn't have a story that basically owed its existence to a Left policy or idea. Divorce laws, DV laws, custody laws, all whether as the child or the adult man, basically exist to radicalize men.
Honestly if those numbers are to be believed, that would be amazing. That isn't too far from a 50/50 split. And for a demographic that young? Almost too good to be true (so I fear that it is).
And yet conservative dweebs still think simping for women's sports and bathrooms are issues worth caring about. Women hate you guys. You're "protecting" your own demise.
Was listening to a podcast this morning and the owner of Ultra Right beer was saying some shit about "bro incels and all those single men need to just stop being lazy and they'll get a woman"
And while without a doubt some men who've been shoved into those circles really are just pathetic worms, many single men in the West simply are, because women are fucking trash.
Too many boomers and old millennials think that USA women are conservatives in disguise, waiting for you to be a Real Man so they can come out of hiding.
All the black-pillers kept telling me that "No, Gen Z is worse than millenials. No, millenials aren't shifting to the right."
Bullshit.
For the first time that I have seen in Gallup's data, Gen Z is as Leftist at 18 as millennials are at 30. That's never happened before in 100 years. Normally, you'd get a statistic like Boomers are as Leftist at 80, as the Silent generation was at 18. At 18, there should be something closer to a 10-15 point jump in the amount of Leftists per generation. That trend stopped and reversed.
Hell, even the polling data for Trump is shocking. Trump's strongest base of support isn't Boomers, it's Gen Z. Growing up, I'd almost never even see a young Republican, let alone a young Christian Conservative. I tend to see them all the time nowadays. Part of that is absolutely what we are seeing in OP's tweet.
Additionally, most people tend to get more conservative with age, and your first president actually has an impact on your future voting patterns (because it indicates your political preferences). Most of these kids are never going to vote progressive, and will get more conservative with age. These kids are paleo-cons in the making.
On top of that, Trump has had a massive gender divide exposed. It's most stark among American blacks. 45% of black men supported Trump, 2% of black women. This goes along with the fact that he is espousing policies and ideas that independent young men want, but is not offering the policies of emotional pacification that women do.
This stuff here is the the reason I feel little (I want to say none, but I still feel can't help but feel a tiny bit) compassion for girls having their sports ruined, and their scholarships taken by trans athletes.
No single thing is more responsible for the left being allowed to do what it has done (males playing in females sports being only one example) than the fact that women vote for the left en masse.
Women need to get their shit sorted out, and stop being a basically guaranteed voting block for the radical left. They are dooming our civilization with this.
Can't wait until a whole generation of men just say "women can't vote.... what are you going to do about it?"
Unironically what it's probably going to take and what may well happen. No matter what they and their simps say, the vast majority of women will fall in line when pushed into it by truly strong and authoritative men, and in fact the louder they bitch about being stronk independent girlbosses who don't need no man, the more likely they are to secretly crave male domination or straight up have rape fantasies.
Twilight & 50 Shades were mega-hits despite our age being one where feminism had been ascendant for almost a century with no significant reverses. Hell, history shows as much: during the Spanish Civil War the Nationalists had a habit of stripping anarchist milicianas and making them drink castor oil so they'd have to crawl around naked & shit themselves in public, and yet those supposed revolutionary girlbosses didn't choose to fight to the death or go to a mass grave (as plenty of Republican men did) to avoid such indignity. Most just bowed to Franco's regime and became meek tradwives or at least inoffensive spinsters in the decades which followed!
I do believe that once a critical mass of conservative young men come of age and decide to tear the incumbent rotten system asunder, the women will roll out the welcome mat for them. They're gonna give as much of a shit about any soy elemental simp claiming to fight for said system and their supposed rights as those milicianas did about their menfolk or, indeed, the pre-Indo-European matriarchs did when the Indo-Europeans rolled in at the start of the Bronze Age (hence the often-radical changes in European genetics from the latter's invasion onward, they routinely killed the pre-Indo-European men and took the women, and also passed property & titles down strictly patrilineally) - none at all.
Next you'll tell me all the women of France weren't super secret double agents working for the Resistance against the Nazis, getting raped for the greater good to stay alive and continue their Mega Awesome Spy Activities. Who would ever guess women would sell out their country, men, and every principle/dignity just to preserve their lives by serving the enemy?
Dude, you're taking a basic fact of:
"Women understand their value, and will attempt to survive by placating the person who has already captured them."
And running it to Imp's position of:
"Women's only goal is to murder their husbands, sons, and fathers, then have their daughters be raped. This is their goal in life, and they support their rapists and favor rape."
Stop.
Women do not want to be raped. Women do not support themselves being raped.
There is a major distinction between explicitly mentally ill Leftist women who are fetishizing rape fantasies because they've been groomed and abused by the Left, and are responding with a coping mechanism to a lack of masculinity in their lives, is not an inherent feature of women.
Women do fight, women do resist, and women do try to defend their children and families. They also tend to attack women whom collaborate. See the "Liberation of Paris" for what happens when women target women who collaborated with the Nazis.
As others have already noted, women are more susceptible to authoritarianism and emotional manipulation. This also applies to torture. Men are not a sex of slaves, simply because men can be enslaved, abused, humiliated, and owned with the appropriate amount of psychological abuse. Women being intentionally kept alive because of their value as mothers, and then being tortured into submission, is not evidence of women wanting that to happen to them.
It's discussions like this where we have to bring back the old ideas of the id and the ego, or lizard-brain as it seems to be called now.
Everything you're talking about is happening at the ego level. That's irrelevant. The ego level is an unreliable narrator that will perform whatever gymnastics are necessary to restore what Clarey calls "perfect mental state".
When we talk about wants, we're really talking about the id level.
Its amazing you took what I said and ran it to this wild of a position. Good job rush to their aid when someone implies they might not be perfect heroes as the narratives paint them.
Its almost a perfect encapsulation of how Feminism has managed to succeed for so long that it became Intersectionality and from there The Woke:
I've been doing this for longer than Imp's been alive. You aren't going to make me feel bad about being an ebil misogynist.
I didn't say they enjoyed being raped. I said they were raped because they were unwilling to fight to the death, and losing dignity and principles was worth prolonging their lives, only to then have history pretend they were doing it "for the cause."
But I said meanie things about women, so you skipped by all that to try and scare me by comparing me to Imp.
The Taliban just did this & nobody did anything about it.
Talibans looking more and more based everyday
You can literally see the line for women fluctuate almost perfectly with which party was in office right up until Occupy Wall Street. Then the propaganda starts going off the rails, which is where you see the split. In contrast, the men tended to fluctuate a little less while being more conservative overall.
Funny how 2014 seems to be this magical year where everyone loses their fucking minds.
Gamergate was the starting pistol. I thought they badly jumped the gun, but I was very wrong.
bro nobody gave a shit about some dumb video game drama in 2014-15.
it was BLM, the Obama 2nd term, the crushing of the Tea Party, the beginnings of the LGBT hysteria & similar big, meaningful shit that all started around 2012.
not some fat cow fucking 5 ugly "games journalists"
Gamergate didn't start it, it was an outgrowth of a fire that had already started burning on the Left.
Yeah, that's why Gamergate is STILL being referenced as the trauma of journalists almost ten years down the line.
nobody talks about gamergate outside of a niche community
big players in US politics don't even know what gamergate is.
you think trump has ever even heard of Gamergate? lol
Nobody talks about Gamergate outside of anti-GG’ers because they keep blaming GG for unrelated things.
Trump won 2016? Gamergate’s fault Roe v. Wade overturned? Gamergate’s fault Johnny Depp winning his defamation lawsuit? Gamergate’s fault
trannies who play JRPGs have nothing else to talk about
True, sometimes people forget that 2014's GamerGate was a result of the bizarre propaganda we'd already been seeing for... two years... starting in 2012.
Most gamers weren't noticing because they were Left-Libertarian and were already being exposed to the propaganda. They just didn't think it needed to be part of every waking moment of their life.
Excellent point as well. Closer to the truth.
On the contrary. Women's support for political party is in line with marriage.
Unmarried women always lean left, married women always lean right. Young, never married women are hard left. Older, once and currently married women, are right-wing.
You can watch as women, demographically, go from left, right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left based on: never married, married, divorced, twice married, twice divorced, three times married, 4 times divorced (no accurate statistical data after that).
Excellent observation.
Once teen boys learn that being a feminist isn't going to get them laid the Manosphere and right wing in general are obviously going to be highly appealing to them, if only because the other side hates them so much.
Masculine and feminine differences were always a factor in voting but with everyone hyper-politicized now the ideological lines are hardening into those tribes more than around economics or other political issues. Social media has accelerated the spread of Globohomo but it also allows a lot of red-pill/MRA groups to thrive and connect young men together to express feelings that in the past were entirely stamped out by liberal orthodoxy. (aka Feminism)
And I can just imagine the soybeard redditors in the right bar snorting at the question and thinking "LITERALLY JUST DONT RAPE WOMEN BRO ITS NOT HARD".
Sad to see young women trending up like that but hardly surprising.
At that age they represent media and advertising influences above all else.
young women are easily manipulated by left wing propaganda.
it's a serious problem.
but strong men can keep their women in check.
my girlfriend was an Obama voter yet she voted Trump because of me.
My wife voted for Clinton (Hilary) before we met but now she just asks me who to vote for.
As it should be.
Hopefully the answer you gave her is nobody.
Local elections still matter and that's what we focus on.
Good to know that and don’t forget about the school board members or the community managers. Used what little power you have now before they take that away.
My wife knows that I would divorce her if she voted left.
>Moderates excluded
Harsh, but I suppose that's fair.
The question that remains is what the high-schoolers themselves consider as conservative and liberal.
Yeah. So the only thing this really tells us is that, at the extremes, men are becoming more conservative and women are becoming more liberal.
And what % consider themselves moderate?
Should be 0% by now...
Its always been that way. A feminist abusing her position of power is what dug my first stake into misogyny as a young lad, instead of just falling into the "this particular woman is bad" trap. And that was decades ago.
In this decades since, I can count on one hand the amount of similar MRAs, anti-feminists, or whatever particular group I was hanging around in who didn't have a story that basically owed its existence to a Left policy or idea. Divorce laws, DV laws, custody laws, all whether as the child or the adult man, basically exist to radicalize men.
Misogyny is a good thing, women deserve to be looked down on for being the inferior sex.
I usually put it like, owning a dog. I love my dog. It loves me. I feed it, pet it, give it a home and provide for it whatever it needs.
My dog still doesn't get to vote.
I have new found respect for Gen Z boys.
Resisting relentless feminist indoctrination is no easy task.
Honestly if those numbers are to be believed, that would be amazing. That isn't too far from a 50/50 split. And for a demographic that young? Almost too good to be true (so I fear that it is).
It is likely not a nation-wide sample, but it speaks to a broader trend.
Unfortunately women have a massive in-group preference whereas conservatives love to “treat everyone fairly”
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Boys just want less taxes and government involvements
And yet conservative dweebs still think simping for women's sports and bathrooms are issues worth caring about. Women hate you guys. You're "protecting" your own demise.
Was listening to a podcast this morning and the owner of Ultra Right beer was saying some shit about "bro incels and all those single men need to just stop being lazy and they'll get a woman"
And while without a doubt some men who've been shoved into those circles really are just pathetic worms, many single men in the West simply are, because women are fucking trash.
Too many boomers and old millennials think that USA women are conservatives in disguise, waiting for you to be a Real Man so they can come out of hiding.
Alright, let's get dressing in cool uniforms and have big fiery rallies.
All the black-pillers kept telling me that "No, Gen Z is worse than millenials. No, millenials aren't shifting to the right."
Bullshit.
For the first time that I have seen in Gallup's data, Gen Z is as Leftist at 18 as millennials are at 30. That's never happened before in 100 years. Normally, you'd get a statistic like Boomers are as Leftist at 80, as the Silent generation was at 18. At 18, there should be something closer to a 10-15 point jump in the amount of Leftists per generation. That trend stopped and reversed.
Hell, even the polling data for Trump is shocking. Trump's strongest base of support isn't Boomers, it's Gen Z. Growing up, I'd almost never even see a young Republican, let alone a young Christian Conservative. I tend to see them all the time nowadays. Part of that is absolutely what we are seeing in OP's tweet.
Additionally, most people tend to get more conservative with age, and your first president actually has an impact on your future voting patterns (because it indicates your political preferences). Most of these kids are never going to vote progressive, and will get more conservative with age. These kids are paleo-cons in the making.
On top of that, Trump has had a massive gender divide exposed. It's most stark among American blacks. 45% of black men supported Trump, 2% of black women. This goes along with the fact that he is espousing policies and ideas that independent young men want, but is not offering the policies of emotional pacification that women do.
This stuff here is the the reason I feel little (I want to say none, but I still feel can't help but feel a tiny bit) compassion for girls having their sports ruined, and their scholarships taken by trans athletes.
No single thing is more responsible for the left being allowed to do what it has done (males playing in females sports being only one example) than the fact that women vote for the left en masse.
Women need to get their shit sorted out, and stop being a basically guaranteed voting block for the radical left. They are dooming our civilization with this.
ngmi
I fell for you, but should also stop being retarded.