and yet those supposed revolutionary girlbosses didn't choose to fight to the death or go to a mass grave
Next you'll tell me all the women of France weren't super secret double agents working for the Resistance against the Nazis, getting raped for the greater good to stay alive and continue their Mega Awesome Spy Activities. Who would ever guess women would sell out their country, men, and every principle/dignity just to preserve their lives by serving the enemy?
"Women understand their value, and will attempt to survive by placating the person who has already captured them."
And running it to Imp's position of:
"Women's only goal is to murder their husbands, sons, and fathers, then have their daughters be raped. This is their goal in life, and they support their rapists and favor rape."
Stop.
Women do not want to be raped. Women do not support themselves being raped.
There is a major distinction between explicitly mentally ill Leftist women who are fetishizing rape fantasies because they've been groomed and abused by the Left, and are responding with a coping mechanism to a lack of masculinity in their lives, is not an inherent feature of women.
Women do fight, women do resist, and women do try to defend their children and families. They also tend to attack women whom collaborate. See the "Liberation of Paris" for what happens when women target women who collaborated with the Nazis.
As others have already noted, women are more susceptible to authoritarianism and emotional manipulation. This also applies to torture. Men are not a sex of slaves, simply because men can be enslaved, abused, humiliated, and owned with the appropriate amount of psychological abuse. Women being intentionally kept alive because of their value as mothers, and then being tortured into submission, is not evidence of women wanting that to happen to them.
It's discussions like this where we have to bring back the old ideas of the id and the ego, or lizard-brain as it seems to be called now.
Everything you're talking about is happening at the ego level. That's irrelevant. The ego level is an unreliable narrator that will perform whatever gymnastics are necessary to restore what Clarey calls "perfect mental state".
When we talk about wants, we're really talking about the id level.
"Women's only goal is to murder their husbands, sons, and fathers, then have their daughters be raped. This is their goal in life, and they support their rapists and favor rape."
Its amazing you took what I said and ran it to this wild of a position. Good job rush to their aid when someone implies they might not be perfect heroes as the narratives paint them.
Its almost a perfect encapsulation of how Feminism has managed to succeed for so long that it became Intersectionality and from there The Woke:
I think women are flawed and painting themselves in a better life than reality at times
Oh so you think women are evil monsters who enjoy rape and scheme to hurt men?!
I've been doing this for longer than Imp's been alive. You aren't going to make me feel bad about being an ebil misogynist.
I didn't say they enjoyed being raped. I said they were raped because they were unwilling to fight to the death, and losing dignity and principles was worth prolonging their lives, only to then have history pretend they were doing it "for the cause."
But I said meanie things about women, so you skipped by all that to try and scare me by comparing me to Imp.
Next you'll tell me all the women of France weren't super secret double agents working for the Resistance against the Nazis, getting raped for the greater good to stay alive and continue their Mega Awesome Spy Activities. Who would ever guess women would sell out their country, men, and every principle/dignity just to preserve their lives by serving the enemy?
Dude, you're taking a basic fact of:
"Women understand their value, and will attempt to survive by placating the person who has already captured them."
And running it to Imp's position of:
"Women's only goal is to murder their husbands, sons, and fathers, then have their daughters be raped. This is their goal in life, and they support their rapists and favor rape."
Stop.
Women do not want to be raped. Women do not support themselves being raped.
There is a major distinction between explicitly mentally ill Leftist women who are fetishizing rape fantasies because they've been groomed and abused by the Left, and are responding with a coping mechanism to a lack of masculinity in their lives, is not an inherent feature of women.
Women do fight, women do resist, and women do try to defend their children and families. They also tend to attack women whom collaborate. See the "Liberation of Paris" for what happens when women target women who collaborated with the Nazis.
As others have already noted, women are more susceptible to authoritarianism and emotional manipulation. This also applies to torture. Men are not a sex of slaves, simply because men can be enslaved, abused, humiliated, and owned with the appropriate amount of psychological abuse. Women being intentionally kept alive because of their value as mothers, and then being tortured into submission, is not evidence of women wanting that to happen to them.
It's discussions like this where we have to bring back the old ideas of the id and the ego, or lizard-brain as it seems to be called now.
Everything you're talking about is happening at the ego level. That's irrelevant. The ego level is an unreliable narrator that will perform whatever gymnastics are necessary to restore what Clarey calls "perfect mental state".
When we talk about wants, we're really talking about the id level.
Its amazing you took what I said and ran it to this wild of a position. Good job rush to their aid when someone implies they might not be perfect heroes as the narratives paint them.
Its almost a perfect encapsulation of how Feminism has managed to succeed for so long that it became Intersectionality and from there The Woke:
I've been doing this for longer than Imp's been alive. You aren't going to make me feel bad about being an ebil misogynist.
I didn't say they enjoyed being raped. I said they were raped because they were unwilling to fight to the death, and losing dignity and principles was worth prolonging their lives, only to then have history pretend they were doing it "for the cause."
But I said meanie things about women, so you skipped by all that to try and scare me by comparing me to Imp.