That's all we needed to know about this response and why it was issued. You let women in, now you get the consequences of letting them voice their opinions without impediment.
Which they will use your official company channels and name for, because whether they are high up the chain business elite or trashy bar bitches women love to start shit knowing someone else (a man, their bosses or boyfriend) will have to clean up the mess.
If you want to appeal to women, have an ad showing a buff guy about to attack a woman only for her to defend herself with one of your guns but then the ending scene is a wedding scene forced at gunpoint.
It combines all the elements women love, girl power, strong guys, weird sexual attraction to serial killers and fascination of rape, forcing a guy to bend to their will through marriage/s
Except for PSA and the shitty shitty brands like hi point and SCCY they're all priced around the same give or take fifty bucks. Buying a Glock over an M&P or a Sig is all preference.
If Glock is OvER PrIcEd NamE ReCogNitIoN than so is every gun in the "exploded market" that isn't made by PSA or a gun you simply shouldn't buy unless you're truly desperate.
How about we start with, which gun makers have ads with hot babes in them, and work backwards from there. Honestly since when has this been a thing to begin with?
None of them do. We can rant about this leftist stance from HK all we want but at the end of the day they are actually sitting comfortably in line with the prevailing bipartisan cultural wind.
sounds kinda like a purity spiral to me... they can spiral down the drain for all i care, these rainbow clowns have caused so much damage that its going to take multiple generations to fix if it can be at all.
I don't think I've ever seen an advertisement for a firearm, much less an ad that relies on attractive women, so I really can't perceive this as anything other than H&K inventing something to crusade against.
Edit: Apparently Heckler & Koch deleted the tweets referenced here.
of course they did standard slimey corpo damage control politicans use a similar model too. this is why archives are importent in the age of the living lie the truth is static i guess. thankfuly someone was there to snag them https://archive.is/TsvjT and https://archive.is/o8jEH .
It just blows my mind that a firearms manufacturer would hire what sounds like a 30-something millennial cat mom, cool wine aunt type who uses their account to clap back at random people on twitter like a 16 year old girlboss to handle their PR. "As an actual woman writing this (who has never even held a gun in her entire life)"
will admit that I find the proliferation of what can only be called "gun bunnies" annoying
I think the issue with this is the idea that if we move away from this, the alternative will be superior marketing like actual information and personalized, direct advertisements.
When history has shown that when companies move away from "sex sells" overtly, they simply replace it with "you will find this ugly monster attractive, deal with it" and other woke ads like gays. In that dichotomy, the bunnies are the better option.
Sexy ads are a declaration that your company is not beholden to leftism. You should be able to appreciate this even if sexy ads are not your personal preference.
A P90 isn't a carbine, it's a PDW, it's not meant to be used as a carbine.
If you're in a jet fighter, a submarine, a tank, an helicopter, etc... every available room is prime estate and if something happen, you don't want to be stuck somewhere waiting for help with a pistol since there's no room for a rifle there, that's when PDW come into play.
It doesn't matter if the trigger is shitty, it's meant to be used in full auto and the damn things is a hardcore force multiplier now that you understand what's the point of a PDW and in comparaison to what's available on the market.
Compared to a P90, the PP2000, VZ61, Magpul abomination, G18, etc... are all inferior to it, the only thing that come remotely close is the Kriss Vector but who the fuck use .45 ACP for military application nowadays?
At the end of the day, the stopping power of your caliber is irrelevant, it's how much lead you can carry and send down there that win a firefight (in a military setting) for the past 40 years since asymmetrical warfare is all the rage.
For you civilian lads a good semi is preferable since you don't have access to the fun switches (which is a gimmick anyway, most scenarios that force you to switch to full usually involve you being fucked) hence why the AK is still king.
Thank you for pointing out the operational niche of the P90. It's excellent at what it was designed for. Just because it's not a flexible platform like the AR doesn't mean it's bad. 50 round magazine in a compact package. The 5.7 provides AP capability; it needs to be thought of as an upgrade over 9mm PDWs, not a downgrade from 5.56 SBRs. Yes it won't fragment like 5.56, but it won't have the sheer concussion and noise that a 10.5" AR would. It's already significant in a standard barrel configuration, now imagine that blast 8 inches closer to your face in a bullpup.
It's the difference between flipping a light switch with your finger vs. flipping it with a stick. The tradeoff for the bullpup's space-saving design is a much longer trigger-sear linkage, which means a heavy, spongy, shitty trigger pull.
To each their own, I suppose, especially since I have no problem with people exploring and testing different ideas. I don't have the gun collection itch that some do. Bullpups are cool concepts, but I like and can effectively use the guns I have just fine. LaRue's 2 stage trigger for the AR-15 platform has spoiled me when it comes to triggers.
That's all we needed to know about this response and why it was issued. You let women in, now you get the consequences of letting them voice their opinions without impediment.
Which they will use your official company channels and name for, because whether they are high up the chain business elite or trashy bar bitches women love to start shit knowing someone else (a man, their bosses or boyfriend) will have to clean up the mess.
If you want to appeal to women, have an ad showing a buff guy about to attack a woman only for her to defend herself with one of your guns but then the ending scene is a wedding scene forced at gunpoint.
It combines all the elements women love, girl power, strong guys, weird sexual attraction to serial killers and fascination of rape, forcing a guy to bend to their will through marriage/s
So if you want to appeal to men you should have fat unattractive women?
Fat does mean a larger target in some regards, just probably not in the way HK were thinking 🎯
You can keep your German shit anyway. There are plenty of alternatives.
Not like they try to sell to civilians anyway.
Their entire market is LE and governments, any civilians who buy their stuff is purely a bonus.
Insanely over-priced.
Many H&K guns are manufactured in the US.
Brownells did the thing
Seriously, fuck HK. At least Glock "Perfection" is affordable.
Except for PSA and the shitty shitty brands like hi point and SCCY they're all priced around the same give or take fifty bucks. Buying a Glock over an M&P or a Sig is all preference.
If Glock is OvER PrIcEd NamE ReCogNitIoN than so is every gun in the "exploded market" that isn't made by PSA or a gun you simply shouldn't buy unless you're truly desperate.
Just scroll through these listings and you'll see that they're all priced very competitively within each category
The optics ready Glock 17 MOS and the optics ready CZ P-10F are very close to each other retail. Glock isn't OvERpRiCeD.
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Sarcasm in text form.
Are these same social justice warriors going to go after how they make the Father a useless, helpless bumbling goon in most commercials?
No?
I didn't think so.
keep loading your rounds backwards, weissbiers.
So Cock Hecklers.
'Nuff said.
Ok which gun maker goes gay next?
How about we start with, which gun makers have ads with hot babes in them, and work backwards from there. Honestly since when has this been a thing to begin with?
None of them do. We can rant about this leftist stance from HK all we want but at the end of the day they are actually sitting comfortably in line with the prevailing bipartisan cultural wind.
What’s the opposite of a preference cascade? How do you describe gay people with shitty ideas closing ranks to double down?
sounds kinda like a purity spiral to me... they can spiral down the drain for all i care, these rainbow clowns have caused so much damage that its going to take multiple generations to fix if it can be at all.
Conservatives would have no problems with these kinds of ads.
"guns?"
I don't think I've ever seen an advertisement for a firearm, much less an ad that relies on attractive women, so I really can't perceive this as anything other than H&K inventing something to crusade against.
Edit: Apparently Heckler & Koch deleted the tweets referenced here.
of course they did standard slimey corpo damage control politicans use a similar model too. this is why archives are importent in the age of the living lie the truth is static i guess. thankfuly someone was there to snag them https://archive.is/TsvjT and https://archive.is/o8jEH .
It just blows my mind that a firearms manufacturer would hire what sounds like a 30-something millennial cat mom, cool wine aunt type who uses their account to clap back at random people on twitter like a 16 year old girlboss to handle their PR. "As an actual woman writing this (who has never even held a gun in her entire life)"
They want every first grader in the nation to read books that have pictures dudes sucking dick, but ads featuring women wearing bikinis is blasphemy.
Pretty women in bikinis. They’ll cheer on a 500 pound walrus and a bald black lady if they wear a thong.
Anything that's remotely in the same direction as normal heterosexual reproductive sex is the opposite of what these freaks want.
I think the issue with this is the idea that if we move away from this, the alternative will be superior marketing like actual information and personalized, direct advertisements.
When history has shown that when companies move away from "sex sells" overtly, they simply replace it with "you will find this ugly monster attractive, deal with it" and other woke ads like gays. In that dichotomy, the bunnies are the better option.
Sexy ads are a declaration that your company is not beholden to leftism. You should be able to appreciate this even if sexy ads are not your personal preference.
Yeah, that's kinda what I was getting at. The rejection of the sexy ad is a canary in most cases.
Heckler Under Cock is the reason why NATO never adopted the P90. Their shitty MP7 lost and they threw a hissy fit and vetoed the adoption.
was a sick looking gun in stargate SG1 though
A P90 isn't a carbine, it's a PDW, it's not meant to be used as a carbine. If you're in a jet fighter, a submarine, a tank, an helicopter, etc... every available room is prime estate and if something happen, you don't want to be stuck somewhere waiting for help with a pistol since there's no room for a rifle there, that's when PDW come into play.
It doesn't matter if the trigger is shitty, it's meant to be used in full auto and the damn things is a hardcore force multiplier now that you understand what's the point of a PDW and in comparaison to what's available on the market. Compared to a P90, the PP2000, VZ61, Magpul abomination, G18, etc... are all inferior to it, the only thing that come remotely close is the Kriss Vector but who the fuck use .45 ACP for military application nowadays?
At the end of the day, the stopping power of your caliber is irrelevant, it's how much lead you can carry and send down there that win a firefight (in a military setting) for the past 40 years since asymmetrical warfare is all the rage.
For you civilian lads a good semi is preferable since you don't have access to the fun switches (which is a gimmick anyway, most scenarios that force you to switch to full usually involve you being fucked) hence why the AK is still king.
Thank you for pointing out the operational niche of the P90. It's excellent at what it was designed for. Just because it's not a flexible platform like the AR doesn't mean it's bad. 50 round magazine in a compact package. The 5.7 provides AP capability; it needs to be thought of as an upgrade over 9mm PDWs, not a downgrade from 5.56 SBRs. Yes it won't fragment like 5.56, but it won't have the sheer concussion and noise that a 10.5" AR would. It's already significant in a standard barrel configuration, now imagine that blast 8 inches closer to your face in a bullpup.
don't you talk shit about my raifu
The P90 also doesn't have a good trigger. Small gripe, but still. Apparently this is common problem with bullpups.
It's the difference between flipping a light switch with your finger vs. flipping it with a stick. The tradeoff for the bullpup's space-saving design is a much longer trigger-sear linkage, which means a heavy, spongy, shitty trigger pull.
To each their own, I suppose, especially since I have no problem with people exploring and testing different ideas. I don't have the gun collection itch that some do. Bullpups are cool concepts, but I like and can effectively use the guns I have just fine. LaRue's 2 stage trigger for the AR-15 platform has spoiled me when it comes to triggers.
I see the P90 being used by like police and hostage rescue that may or may not be shooting through armor, but where overpenetration is always a risk.
H&K have been coasting since the 90s. Since then, they've just been playing catch-up or trying to sell you on their greatest hits.
Guntubing in general is overdone. I didn't know about that slogan. An H&K 45 is my weapon of choice.