It happened with everything. I've been watching old movies and reading books instead. Modern media sucks cuz they can't help but put "The Message" in everything.
This is definitely the way to go. There's too much quality film and literature created before, say, 1980 to bother with paying attention to the shit-train coming out of contemporary Hollyweird, with few exceptions.
Yah I watched Tombstone last night. It was a very fun movie. Also I watched Unforgiven and it stuck with me. Other great movies I recently watched: Cool Hand Luke, One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, They Call me Triniti, The Hunter.
Glad I didn’t start watching this one. I was on the fence for a lot of reasons, but a full-on gay love story just three episodes in? That’s gotta be some kind of bait-and-switch record.
Also, the actress playing Ellie is too old and legitimately too ugly.
Edit: of course the director of the episode is gay. And his previous work is a bunch of gay stuff. Because that’s who you hire for an epic apocalyptic action drama - a gay dude who turns around and makes the show about gay dudes.
This is the problem with “representation”. If you hire a gay guy to make your big action drama tv show, and he makes a really good big action drama tv show, then who cares that he’s gay? But seemingly every time they do hire a gay guy, he makes the show about homosexuality. The pattern becomes so predictable that you are totally justified in avoiding all media created by gay people because it will invariably be all about gay stuff.
If nothing else the franchise remains consistent in making the story pants on head retarded since in the second game Abby looks to be on enough steroids or protein that the setting of an apocalypse makes no sense how these resources are being sourced.
I remember when the trailer for part 2 debuted at E3 and all the gaming sites were gushing over it. I remember thinking it’s either some gay stuff or girl power.
Agreed. Just think of the most dramatic thing to happen at any moment (regardless of whether it makes sense) and you can easily predict the whole story.
It's kind of like Titanic, a really well-made stupid story. Its manipulative AF. Meanwhile as a survival horror it's very forgettable. No one plays it for the "awesome" gameplay.
It's funny to me that modern shows set in real life have equally progressive politics as stories set in lawless or fantasy societies far removed from modern progressivism.
Bruh, if you think people are sexist and homophobic now, what happens when the world is threatened by man-eating monsters lurking around every corner? There would be zero feminist lesbians in the post-apocalypse, it simply wouldn't be allowed. Much more likely to see warlord harems and gays strung up.
This is because Leftism is entirely psuedo-intellectual western Leftism. But Leftism is so ideologically totalizing that it doesn't understand that it's the exception to the norm, not the norm. They assert "The General Will", and then are always surprised when the general population is typically right wing on most issues, and far-right on things they actually know about. Lenin and Trotsky tried to tell them this, each called it something else: "Private Capitalism" and "Petty Bourgouise" respectively. Fundamentally, they both realized that anyone who had money or property independent of the state, and wasn't part of a larger institution, was the most resilient anti-communist force of all that couldn't be stamped out even with mass murder. Institutionalism is Leftist. Political Rationalism is Leftist.
They have no idea what it would look like to live under non-Leftist authoritarianism, and once their institutional support is gone; they respond with cowardice and comply with the new authority.
Look at Afghanistan. The Taliban won. What did the Feminists do? Put on head-scarves and say nothing. No riots, no assassinations, no guerrilla warfare. Just a realization that the game was over. Considering that that means that there were women who were actually in real danger now of being honor killed, stoned to death, exiled to death, or burned with acid; that really tells you how loyal Leftists are to the people they claim to protect or represent.
once their institutional support is gone; they respond with cowardice and comply with the new authority.
Absolutely. You can see this in Florida, in the reactions of academics to DeSantis's reforms. Academic leftists are the ones quickest to cave to any real opposition.
As we all know people who have been tricked become sympathetic to the message you were trying to trick them into enjoying. Oh? They never are? How WEIRD!?!?
I never played the game but I assume this wasn’t in it or wasn’t in the game to this extent. Crazy how you can get attacked for saying that you aren’t interested in gay romance stories
Renly and Loras was hinted at and nothing more in the books through dialogue.
In the show? Actual scenes of them in bed together including Loras' sister, who Renly was married to, suggesting Loras join in for a threesome so that the King and Queen can consummate the Royal wedding and produce an heir but in a way the King will be able to perform because he's literally a massive faggot and everyone knows it.
I remember that. I read all the books between seasons 1-5 and at the time I was a little surprised because like you said in the books it’s only hinted at.
He's not wrong. Only an extreme minority of the population wants to watch a gay romance with 3D characters. Especially in a post-apocalyptic zombie story about two completely different characters and the bond that they form, that this garbage interrupts. And especially especially since it's between two ugly-ass, hairy, middle-aged men. The vast majority of people do not want to see anyone of that description getting naked and swapping spit, and that fact that you snuck that into an adaptation where none of this happened and outright altered the characterizations present in the original story shows what a manipulative piece of shit you are and how you can't keep your damn fetishes to yourself.
That's what they said about Orange is the New Black. No way you could get people to watch a show about poor minority women in prison unless you make the main character a fish out of water wealthy white woman going to prison.
Sure you could. You'd just need to change up the plot of the show.
Portray the women as horrific thugs. Because face it, even if black, they have to be REALLY shitty to manage to get into prison for long-term incarceration if they're women. Statistics back that one up solidly. They've gotta be puppy-torturers-on-steroids.
So you get your MC who is hunting down the woman who tortured her son to death on film, purposefully gets arrested, purposefully ruins her court case to get sent to prison, and is seeking out her revenge, but the Big Bad Evil Bitch is the leader of a major prison gang, and so the fish-out-of-water story is this not-evil person trying to fit in and buy clout with other prison gangs and shore up her resources and power to take her perfect revenge.
Done, minority female protag with a story focusing on other black female prisoners. And it'd sell, if well-acted.
That doesn't mean much since in the 80s having a jewish name was seen as something that could be beneficial, see Karen Caryn 'Whoopi Goldberg' Elaine Johnson, while these days it's possibly seen as a hindrance/target which leads to things like 'Taika Waititi' [pronounced "WY-tee-tee"], whose birthname is Taiki David Cohen.
It happened with everything. I've been watching old movies and reading books instead. Modern media sucks cuz they can't help but put "The Message" in everything.
This is definitely the way to go. There's too much quality film and literature created before, say, 1980 to bother with paying attention to the shit-train coming out of contemporary Hollyweird, with few exceptions.
Yah I watched Tombstone last night. It was a very fun movie. Also I watched Unforgiven and it stuck with me. Other great movies I recently watched: Cool Hand Luke, One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, They Call me Triniti, The Hunter.
Cool Hand Luke is in my Top Ten.
Glad I didn’t start watching this one. I was on the fence for a lot of reasons, but a full-on gay love story just three episodes in? That’s gotta be some kind of bait-and-switch record.
Also, the actress playing Ellie is too old and legitimately too ugly.
Edit: of course the director of the episode is gay. And his previous work is a bunch of gay stuff. Because that’s who you hire for an epic apocalyptic action drama - a gay dude who turns around and makes the show about gay dudes.
This is the problem with “representation”. If you hire a gay guy to make your big action drama tv show, and he makes a really good big action drama tv show, then who cares that he’s gay? But seemingly every time they do hire a gay guy, he makes the show about homosexuality. The pattern becomes so predictable that you are totally justified in avoiding all media created by gay people because it will invariably be all about gay stuff.
Gross faggots.
If nothing else the franchise remains consistent in making the story pants on head retarded since in the second game Abby looks to be on enough steroids or protein that the setting of an apocalypse makes no sense how these resources are being sourced.
She's got a bit of a downsy face and structure with the tiny eyes and the big jaw. I cannot unsee it
I played the first game. It was just ok. I’m not interested in watching a show on it. especially knowing it’s a trick to getting me watch gay crap.
It’s fine, but it’s probably the most overrated game of all time.
I remember when the trailer for part 2 debuted at E3 and all the gaming sites were gushing over it. I remember thinking it’s either some gay stuff or girl power.
Agreed. Just think of the most dramatic thing to happen at any moment (regardless of whether it makes sense) and you can easily predict the whole story.
It's kind of like Titanic, a really well-made stupid story. Its manipulative AF. Meanwhile as a survival horror it's very forgettable. No one plays it for the "awesome" gameplay.
More overrated than Life Is Strange or Firewatch?
IDK...
I don't know anyone who bought a PS3-4 just to play those games, but TLOU was a system seller.
That's a fair point.
But-but it's the Citizen Kane of video games!
Nobody wants to see faggotry.
The REAL trick will be getting viewers to stick around. I’m betting their ratings are gonna start tanking after this
it's almost like the greater market is telling you there's no place in the spotlight for this incredibly niche topic.
Is that Ron Swanson on the right? Second time I've seen him playing a gay dude with a beard after Brooklyn 99 has him as the ex of Holt.
^faggot.
or he's just a faggot
I personally feel that, sigh, if I were an actor, I probably wouldn’t be comfortable taking “gay parts”…
But I guess it is acting…
But nah, even in “current era”, I would just be too uncomfortable to portray it convincingly, Ron Swanson or no…
But that’s just me I guess.
You sound like a bitch.
You know, you could actually just make a good gay love story instead of tricking people.
And let's be honest, as with Bros, you're not trying to trick people into seeing a gay love story; you're trying to trick them into watching gay porn.
It's funny to me that modern shows set in real life have equally progressive politics as stories set in lawless or fantasy societies far removed from modern progressivism.
Bruh, if you think people are sexist and homophobic now, what happens when the world is threatened by man-eating monsters lurking around every corner? There would be zero feminist lesbians in the post-apocalypse, it simply wouldn't be allowed. Much more likely to see warlord harems and gays strung up.
This is because Leftism is entirely psuedo-intellectual western Leftism. But Leftism is so ideologically totalizing that it doesn't understand that it's the exception to the norm, not the norm. They assert "The General Will", and then are always surprised when the general population is typically right wing on most issues, and far-right on things they actually know about. Lenin and Trotsky tried to tell them this, each called it something else: "Private Capitalism" and "Petty Bourgouise" respectively. Fundamentally, they both realized that anyone who had money or property independent of the state, and wasn't part of a larger institution, was the most resilient anti-communist force of all that couldn't be stamped out even with mass murder. Institutionalism is Leftist. Political Rationalism is Leftist.
They have no idea what it would look like to live under non-Leftist authoritarianism, and once their institutional support is gone; they respond with cowardice and comply with the new authority.
Look at Afghanistan. The Taliban won. What did the Feminists do? Put on head-scarves and say nothing. No riots, no assassinations, no guerrilla warfare. Just a realization that the game was over. Considering that that means that there were women who were actually in real danger now of being honor killed, stoned to death, exiled to death, or burned with acid; that really tells you how loyal Leftists are to the people they claim to protect or represent.
Absolutely. You can see this in Florida, in the reactions of academics to DeSantis's reforms. Academic leftists are the ones quickest to cave to any real opposition.
Nobody cares about fag romance. At least no sane person.
Yes, you do have to trick people.
As we all know people who have been tricked become sympathetic to the message you were trying to trick them into enjoying. Oh? They never are? How WEIRD!?!?
I never played the game but I assume this wasn’t in it or wasn’t in the game to this extent. Crazy how you can get attacked for saying that you aren’t interested in gay romance stories
Said collectibles also paint Bill as controlling and an asshole.
You do, he's just hanging around in the living room in the house where you find the truck.
That’s gold, Jerry! Gold!
Reminds me of wheel of time. Not really that prevalent in the books but the show seems focused on lgbt from what I hear
Game of Thrones did it too.
Renly and Loras was hinted at and nothing more in the books through dialogue.
In the show? Actual scenes of them in bed together including Loras' sister, who Renly was married to, suggesting Loras join in for a threesome so that the King and Queen can consummate the Royal wedding and produce an heir but in a way the King will be able to perform because he's literally a massive faggot and everyone knows it.
I remember that. I read all the books between seasons 1-5 and at the time I was a little surprised because like you said in the books it’s only hinted at.
Lobotomize and institutionalize all faggots and trannies. Problem solved.
He's not wrong. Only an extreme minority of the population wants to watch a gay romance with 3D characters. Especially in a post-apocalyptic zombie story about two completely different characters and the bond that they form, that this garbage interrupts. And especially especially since it's between two ugly-ass, hairy, middle-aged men. The vast majority of people do not want to see anyone of that description getting naked and swapping spit, and that fact that you snuck that into an adaptation where none of this happened and outright altered the characterizations present in the original story shows what a manipulative piece of shit you are and how you can't keep your damn fetishes to yourself.
No early life on director Peter Hoar.
That's what they said about Orange is the New Black. No way you could get people to watch a show about poor minority women in prison unless you make the main character a fish out of water wealthy white woman going to prison.
Sure you could. You'd just need to change up the plot of the show.
Portray the women as horrific thugs. Because face it, even if black, they have to be REALLY shitty to manage to get into prison for long-term incarceration if they're women. Statistics back that one up solidly. They've gotta be puppy-torturers-on-steroids.
So you get your MC who is hunting down the woman who tortured her son to death on film, purposefully gets arrested, purposefully ruins her court case to get sent to prison, and is seeking out her revenge, but the Big Bad Evil Bitch is the leader of a major prison gang, and so the fish-out-of-water story is this not-evil person trying to fit in and buy clout with other prison gangs and shore up her resources and power to take her perfect revenge.
Done, minority female protag with a story focusing on other black female prisoners. And it'd sell, if well-acted.
I can't remember all the characters, but the Laura Prepon girl isn't wealthy is she? I think she was a drug dealer -- nigger rich.
That doesn't mean much since in the 80s having a jewish name was seen as something that could be beneficial, see
KarenCaryn 'Whoopi Goldberg' Elaine Johnson, while these days it's possibly seen as a hindrance/target which leads to things like 'Taika Waititi' [pronounced "WY-tee-tee"], whose birthname is Taiki David Cohen.Side note: both of those people suck ass…
Like, fuck them both.
Waititi occasionally makes good movies, but fuck is he a giant douche…
Can't trick me, faggot.
"Brokeback Mountain" should have been the end.
Fortunately I am already aware of that trick.