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Femcel power fantasy (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 3 years ago by SupremeReader 3 years ago by SupremeReader +27 / -0
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– ShadistIsACuck 29 points 3 years ago +29 / -0

Everything about this is gaslighting, hypocritical and backwards. It's like this retarded whore wants all the hate, yet I know she really is like this.

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– deleted 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0
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– Guy_Incognito76 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Also The Neverending Story, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, Three Hearts and Three Lions, A Princess of Mars and all the Barsoom novels, Nine Princes in Amber, Chronicles of Narnia, etc. etc.

Normal person transported to fantasy land is hardly a unique or recent genre.

*edit. Really make them mad by posting the Gor series. Lol.

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– Cyberguy64 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzKgcWDcl4

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– Guy_Incognito76 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

HA! Who the hell made a Gor movie??

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– Steampunk_Moustache 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

By 'originally' they mean 'the first ones that got big in anime'.

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– FromTheShadows 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Even the avatar looks like one.

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– Kienan 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Even the avatar looks like one.

Right? There's plenty of cute anime girl profile pics out there (huge understatement), and this person still managed to look like a tranny in the art.

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– dzonatan 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Did it caught your attention? Yes? Mission Accomplished. I'm not being condescending here: drop social media. You only stand to benefit.

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– Galean 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

First thing I thought when reading this

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– deleted 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0
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– Kienan 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Maybe "transported to an unfamiliar world" is a concept that's existed in fiction for thousands of years

Heck, it wouldn't even surprise me if some of the earlier stuff was men whisked away to another world to find love with gorgeous ladies. Just look at Celtic stuff, Tír na nÓg and the like. Plenty of tales of men getting swept up into the world of hot fairies and the like. Plenty of darker tales too, and it's not like it always ended well, but the point stands. Men have been getting whisked away to spend time with gorgeous ladies in fiction for who knows how many thousands of years. Vice versa, too, there are plenty of tales of otherworldly men pulling women into their worlds.

Like you said, otherworldly journeys aren't exactly a new trope.

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– BigDaddyDangler4 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Does Lucian's "A True Story" count?

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– Assassin47 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Who is this weirdo with 20k likes?

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– Assassin47 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

You should do it. Then once you have the followers gradually shift your message to anti-feminism.

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– el_hoovy 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

women control the world, and they're all evil nahtzees!

don't see why that could get epically reddit downdooterinod?

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

I loved Escaflowne, but man was it weird the further it went.

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– Adamrises 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Yuyu Hakusho came out in 1990, and its basically got every cliche of the isekai genre in it, while also being one of the biggest shounen series of that decade. So much so that it was one of the earliest Toonami dubs. Shit its probably one of the first to use the literal Truck-kun as its plot device to start everything. And I think "supernatural/ghost world" counts as "another" for the definition of isekai.

For additional info, the very concept of the "harem" genre was invented by a woman, one of the now richest women in Japan who has had ongoing series since the 80s. But they wouldn't know that either.

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– redman012 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

For additional info, the very concept of the "harem" genre was invented by a woman, one of the now richest women in Japan who has had ongoing series since the 80s. But they wouldn't know that either.

Very curious what the original harem anime was.

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– Adamrises 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Urusei Yatsura is usually considered the root, with Ranma being the one that defined its cliches going forward.

I'm sure there are ones that fit into the criteria, but nearly all the ones from the 90s onward draw inspiration from Rumiko Takahashi and her work. Shit nearly every "main girl" in most harem's are just Akane Tendo again.

Though I googled the question just to see if there was one I just had never heard of, and apparently Archie Comics is considered the original harem series and the one that inspired Japan on it. So that's a thing too.

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– Gemmaugr 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

While Yuu Yuu Hakusho is plenty good, I wouldn't call Same World Supernatural as Isekai (other world). Nor do AniList count it as one: https://anilist.co/manga/30053/YuuYuuHakusho/

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– Adamrises 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Well of course they wouldn't call it one. It predates the common usage by decades.

But it literally has the main character getting hit by a truck, waking up in a different world, now having special powers, and being put on a quest within that world. There is functionally no difference between it and any other isekai, other than the very brief (and increasingly minimal) times he interacts with his original mortal life.

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– Hellsbells00 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Ìsekai involves cutting ties to your past. YYH heavily relies on Yusuke's original life and relationships.

To be fair to the feminist, she is right that most isekai LN shit is trash, but the series she mentioned and female led isekai is typically trash in the exact same way.

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– Gemmaugr 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Nah. https://anilist.co/anime/929/Seisenshi-Dunbine/ from 1983 is labelled an Isekai.

Yuu Yuu is not about being transported to another world. He's still in This, the Same World. Earth.

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– Adamrises 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

After the initial resurrection arc, the majority of it takes place in the Demon World, with the human world being an afterthought and the spirit world being the link between the two.

Its just splitting hairs at this point.

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– botzwanapunani 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

This rant just boils down to "my fantasy is good and yours is bad, i can have mine but you shouldnt have yours". I dont get the fucko's beef with the genre when there is huge amount of genres in anime/manga fiction and there is no main genre, shonen and isekai is the most well known simply because it has the biggest audience. If this asshole wanted female MCs then go read shoujos exclusively, there is no need for this strange gatekeeping.

Also its fucking rich a weirdo is calling other readers weirdos.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

God forbid men like literally anything.

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– Decrixxx 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Nigger: https://m.manganelo.com/manga-hk121704

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Counterargument to the tweet twit: Your side had a chance to make an anime. It was called "High Guardian Spice". And no one liked it as anything except a useful tool for showcasing how not to make a show.

So let the experts do what they feel in their hearts. And yes, that could mean 5 more years of trash isekai. But that trash isekai is still better than Guardian Spice, so... begone imitation-thot.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Doesn't even mention 12 kingdoms, harumpf! Maybe because it doesn't only focus in the Isekai part and even has a girl in it that has a really bad experience and the whole "I am the main character" BS that gets taken down a peg and meanwhile the real main character(also a girl) gets to enjoy the world... Oh and it not only focuses on the MC.

Hasn't the modern guy in fantasy been a thing for decades now even before it was done animated? But hey, this genre that mainly targets men? Let's make it about my own tribe, my own people because fuck you and your fun.

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– Devidose 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Femcels don't exist, there will always be a man desperate enough.

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– Guy_Incognito76 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Who could forget the modern day Martin Lawrence classic Black Knight?

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– Steampunk_Moustache 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

She's not exactly wrong, but she's being hypocritical and uncharitable. In fairness, it's easy to do - I use to laugh my ass off at girls who like Twilight until Stephanie Meyer wrote a gender-swapped retelling of her own work. I never read it, but the synopsis of it was enough for me to instantly understand the appeal.

Yes, typical male isekai protagonist is a fucking loser, and that's the joke. It's self aware, self-deprecating humour with a hint of 'oh man, I'm a fucking dweeb, but at least I'm not as big a dweeb as this guy getting inexplicably surrounded by beautiful women is!'

...The female isekai protagonist lacks this hey-look-in-the-mirror-loser reflectivity for the viewer. They have to, because women can't handle having their failings highlighted. A female isekai protagonist will never be called a repulsive loser by the attractive male characters.

What I'm saying is that male isekai protags, despite being utterly obnoxious, are still less insufferable than their female equivalents, because at least we're not expected to take them seriously.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– Kienan 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

To be fair, there are a lot of loser anime MCs. Some have good arcs, some are just perma-awkward weirdos. But it's far from all there is, and this lady (citation needed) still needs to keep their grubby hands off of anime, though.

Also, I love how if you only look at a tiny bit of the data and overall picture, you can decide reality is completely different from what it actually is. If I were as selective as she* is, and if I was picking as few data points as she is, I could say issekais all have female main characters, or are all comedies, or are all grimdark and horrifying, or are all about successful men getting issekaied and having to come to terms with their new world, or sucessful men getting issekaied and already being amazing, or losers getting issekaied and still being losers, or I could say that all issekais are genderbenders or involve spiders swords or vending machines. You get the point. There are plenty of "loser guy" issekais, but it's not all there is.

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– Adamrises 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

It also ignores that this cycle has happened multiple times with many genres. Before Isekai the "slice of life" genre was fucking everywhere and just as much filled with garbage.

And much like that one, in a few more years all the "wierd loser" shows will have been forgotten completely and only the really landmark ones will have a place.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I actually miss when human x monster romance anime were the cyclical trend.

All those vampires, male and female on all of these mind you, fairies, zombies, demons, you still see one show of it per season or two (sugar fairy this season, FemHuman x sociopathic murderer fairy slave presented as wholesome romance) but it's nowhere near the dominance it had before.

Then K-On hit, and most romance anime were wiped out by Slice Of Life for several years.

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– realerfunction 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

monster girls deserve love too!

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– Adamrises 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I wish I could hate K-on, but as a guy who loves Lucky Star and Azumanga Daioh (probably the prototypes of "cute girls doing funny things") it would make me a hypocrite.

And don't forget Call of the Night last year, probably one of the best vampire series in general in a long while.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

K-On was a great show. Truly a star in the CGDCT genre. That's why it spawned so many imitators.

There is no shame in liking a trendsetter, even if the follow-ups coming from it suck.

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– raptor_jesus 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Person travelling to a magical land is a tale as old as time. Also Dunbine predates all of those and that's a fucking Yoshiyuki Tomino isekai of Gundam fane from the 80's. (It has the best Tomino names, too. Shot motherfucking Weapon.)

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– APDSmith 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Yup. The women are "reserved and awkward" whereas the men, oh, no, those are "losers".

Or, in other words, the traditional feminist "It's OK when we do it!"

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