I was wondering why it was so quiet around here. I don’t want anyone banned except spammers but I have to admit he really has been ramping up the retardation lately, I think the Kanye shit really fucked him up.
I see him as a harmless eccentric, like a wacky sitcom character. Unfortunately we’re in season twelve and he’s still spouting the same catchphrases and his character hasn’t had a very interesting arc. Hopefully this Kanye stuff shakes things up a little more.
I'm sure being majority raised by sadistic women doesn't affect their intelligence. "race realists" are just covering for women as usual. A kid isn't going to try in school when mom uses him as a punching bag.
That's all you can see now anyway. There might have been more after that. Edit: He claims he was banned for this comment.
A more interesting correlation is female attainment in school and number of women in education. They rise at near identical times. The women in education just rigged the system heavily to make sure their own people succeeded.
Domitius replied:
Comment Removed: Rule 16 - Identity Attacks: You can't claim women as an enemy class, are rigging the system for the benefit of women, that's the cabal language.
I'm not going to hangout with a bunch if feckless faggots who bitch and moan about society but would prefer some white commie over me because at least the commie is white
in a more serius awnser they exist on paper but i would liken them to a parked doman as all they do is redirect here likely in an attempt to prevent further fragmentation of the kia community.
But he's fucking right here. He's attributing a bit too much malicious intent to the majority of em, it's probably more of an emergent phenomenon for all but the actual feminist teachers, but the rise in female teachers absolutely is serving to feminise education and reward girls' behaviour and increase their marks, and there absolutely is a strain of feminism that does it intentionally and with malicious intent.
If this is the comment that gets him banned, then godspeed you beautiful obsessed bastard, you were too based. It's a good hill to die on, and I respect you.
If no one reports your comments you don't have to worry about it. I never had a problem until some troon followed us from the pedo site and started reporting everything he thought would stick. Imp is always getting reported.
That's a bit bullshit but Imp could avoid the ban by being more specific, because it was a specific group of women (Progressives). That said, science has clearly shown that women do have an in-group bias whereas men are either neutral or also have a pro-women bias, so there is a sound argument there to say that women should not be teachers at all.
That's a bit bullshit but Imp could avoid the ban by being more specific
Imp could avoid the ban by specifically not being a psychopath.
Do I think Imp deserves his bans? Hell no. Do I think he could easily modulate his behavior to avoid most of them? Yeah. Do I think he's in a frame of mind to make that decision? Probably not.
I have been so rude to him I feel it's meaningless to say I agree. But the answer among friends is to let time and debate serve as a crucible for truth. If that starts getting people banned then it suggests that the truth is a violation (say, hypothetically, of rule 16).
Whether Imp is right or wrong that women are mustache twirling villains, or further, at the center of a unifying conspiracy, is not relevant. At the root of it, he got banned for suggesting that ANYONE of ANY identity could HYPOTHETICALLY be up to ANYTHING bad. Newsflash: that rule applies to 99% of discussion in all the big wide world because every single person (A) has a personal identity and (B) is affected by the actions of others.
The rule is totally ubiquitous and therefore meaningless. It can only be imposed unfairly and at whim, because a fair and evenhanded enforcement would shut down the forum, or, at scale, the entire internet. It's everything you ever hated about the response to gamergate- INSIDE the GAMERGATE forum lol
It's everything you ever hated about the response to gamergate- INSIDE the GAMERGATE forum lol
I've never been able to get a clear answer as to why we have all those rules ported over from reddit. It makes me suspect that those who imported them are actually our enemies.
Dom just has a hard on for being a censorious faggot. He's a creature of the pedo site and operating outside the parameters of that sick culture is beyond his imagination let alone capability.
It would bother me more if I thought he were some interloping and deliberately subversive figure, but he is a "real guy" and believes what he says. I feel the abuse I've given him is more of a sin than his passionately attempting to advance his personal opinions with others. It can be a lot but the onus is on the mods to makes rules that are honest and functional instead of serving as pin-the-donkey mcguffins for frustrated jannitors
Whether Imp is right or wrong that women are mustache twirling villains, or further, at the center of a unifying conspiracy, is not relevant. At the root of it, he got banned for suggesting that ANYONE of ANY identity could HYPOTHETICALLY be up to ANYTHING bad. Newsflash: that rule applies to 99% of discussion in all the big wide world because every single person (A) has a personal identity and (B) is affected by the actions of others.
I feel weird going on an Imp-defense posting spree, but the dude amuses me, and his bans are always bullshit.
Yeah, it doesn't really matter what he says, I agree with you. Imp gets banned for being passionate. (He, or at least his reasoning, is wrong, in my opinion, but that's beside the point.) He's not banned specifically for his beliefs; we've all probably said similar things toward someone at some point; like you said, it applies to 99% of discussion. I know I've said some edgy fucking stuff that could be considered identity attacks. He's banned because he's consistent and stands by his belief system, however warped we may think that system might be.
That's pretty gay, if we ban people for being consistent. We've all Imp-posted at one time or another. Let's just do the free speech thing here.
At the root of it, he got banned for suggesting that ANYONE of ANY identity could HYPOTHETICALLY be up to ANYTHING bad.
No, he got banned for declaring that women (an entire demographic) were working as a cabal to control the world. Not just one, not just feminists, not just female teachers. All of those would have been fine. But, he didn't choose to do that, and focused on declaring an enemy class as an enemy cabal.
It's easy not to violate the rule, plenty of people know exactly how to avoid it because they do it all the time. In fact, Imp knows exactly how to do it, and actively refuses. That's his choice.
If he said 99.9% of women were in such a cabal, or 99.8%, or 99.7%... when does that go from violating this """""""""rule""""""""", to being in the clear?
If it's so important and so dependent on his naming ALL women, specifically every single woman, then lets ask him if my mom is not involved. If he says no, would you not either have to unban him, or else, admit to at least some degree the utter gatekeeping foolishness of the rule?
I say this knowing full well he might condemn my mother, but you understand the point I'm trying to make
I do understand the point your trying to make, but this isn't about perfect quantity, it's about declaring women to be a bourgeoisie, and the need for a sectarian class war against them.
That traps people in the identitarian framework which perpetuates the Leftist metanarrative. Sticking to specifics, rather than an applied historical dialectic means no rule gets violated, and you stay out of they hyper-reality of ideological sectarianism that the Left always exploits.
I have to keep bitching, I don't mean to be outright disrespectful to you in a personally attacky sort of way but separately I very much mean to treat your arguments that way. I think much of what you have mentioned here is illogical, amoral, or a philosophical dead end of one kind or another.
First it seems you are encouraging people to use double speak and avoiding saying what they actually mean, specifically as a show of compliance. I could spend all day giving this the "leftist metawhatever" treatment that you have presented me regarding Imp but I'll just say this is morally reprehensible in my opinion because I associate it with the USSR which I am biased against.
Next, it sounds to me like you are arguing the hypothetical suggestion of the existence or operation of any class of wealthy people in general is leftist metanarrative, and that on this basis, we have a social responsibility not to discuss the possibility. That is morally wrong and also factually incorrect. It is objectively true that wealthy people exist, and that each person has an identity, and that people within identity groups express in-group preference.
Even more nextly... do you reckon any of us can name an actual left wing forum where Imp would be welcome to attack all women on the basis you've presented here? (Being that since "woman" is an identity, and attacks on identity are sectarian, and leftists exploit this, it is therefore fundamentally leftist)?
My last bit of bitching is: does left wing thought exceed the limits of free speech on KIA2? In order to communicate here, should we only say right wing things? But not tooo right wing, since that's actually leftist again? Is there a chart somewhere to help miscreant posters identify the allowable portion of the spectrum of human thought?
I have to keep bitching, I don't mean to be outright disrespectful to you in a personally attacky sort of way but separately I very much mean to treat your arguments that way.
Feel free.
("First") I'm not actually insinuating that they use double-speak, but they normally do, it's just not super relevant to most removals. I know the regulars opinions on certain issues, and I also know when they are intentionally clouding their language to appear more moderate. So yeah, it happens, but when they moderate, it doesn't typically violate the rules.
Hell, for some reason ConPro et all still come here and say "they" and (((them))) as if they can't just say jews. It's a little goofy.
("Next") No, but I can see your confusion because you're probably not understanding what I mean by an applied Marxist metanarrative. There's a structure to it:
There's an omnipresent cabal
The cabal encompasses an entire demographic of people
This demographic is united in a single collectivist mentality
That entire demographic is innately evil
That entire demographic is the direct cause of most or all of your problems
Rule 16 is designed to hit most if not all of those simultaneously.
More over, those last four are literally always false. They are never true. No cabal encompasses an entire demographic, no matter what demographic you are using: race, age, ethnicity, religion, nationality, class, wealth, sex, etc. No demographic is united under a single collectivist mindset. It can't be, people are simply not mental slaves to inter-temporal and abstract collectivism: a rich man in Nigeria today, and rich man in 14th century England do not think the same. They do not have what the left calls "class solidarity". No demographic is innately evil. Pick any demographic, no demographic exists which is inherently morally repugnant. Being a billionaire is not immoral. That demographic is not the cause of your personal problems. You're car didn't fail to start this morning because of The Patriarchy.
It is objectively true that wealthy people exist, and that each person has an identity, and that people within identity groups express in-group preference.
And none of those meet that meta-narrative. For example, even though white Americans have the lowest in-group preference of any American Racial demographic, there are still whites that hate themselves and do not want the white race to continue. The White Supremacist Cisheteronormative Patriarchy is the cabal those whites are accused of supporting. It is not true, but the accusation is made that they are racist, well past the point of their death. Simultaneously, black Americans have the highest in-group preference. But this is not evidence of a black cabal. Even black racialists themselves engage in in-fighting and target black 'race traitors' who are not succumbing to a cabal that they are trying to create.
("Even More Nextly") Leftism seeks conquest and changes itself to fit new environments. Imp would be welcome in a Leftist environment if they had one that worked like that at the moment. In previous decades, and in other areas, his attitude was much closer to the normal. There was an ad for a candy bar in Romania (which under Communism was the only candy bar allowed). They had a woman dressed up like Misty from Pokemon, and all of the sudden Nicolae Ceaușescu walks in and condemns her dress for being counter-revolutionary. She is abducted by the state, forced to dress in Communist Youth clothing, and thrown into the street. Leftism is in favor of acting like a slut in our country, and in our time, but that will change. There is no consistent principles within Leftism.
My last bit of bitching is: does left wing thought exceed the limits of free speech on KIA2?
Only such that it does not violate Rule 16. It's a fucking major stumbling block to their argumentation. It's 4"x4"x10' strip of concrete in the middle of the walkway. They're forced to argue around their claims, but their central claims would very likely violate Rule 16. Rule 16 means they can never argue the White Supremacist Cisheteronormative Patriarchy, or even just The Patriarchy. They are forced to argue only at topical levels about 'men needing to be taught not to rape', and having those specific topical issues challenged directly. They can't defer to The Patriarchy as an avenue of escape when the conversation doesn't go their way, and they can be called out for being the bigoted trash they are with an embarrassing removal.
We don't see it here on Scored that much, but I have had to do it on Reddit, and it really throws them for a fucking loop. Their fundamental presuppositions are axiomatically rejected, and they typically don't have any counter. Even if they did, the counter is not tolerated. So, they channelized back into the topical argument, or they have to abandon the whole thing altogether. When given that choice, they typically just give the ground and don't come back. It actually works. All that's left are the Haterjuiced style trolls who continue to operate within the rules, and make for excellent engagement with opposing views because they are constantly stuck on-topic.
And to be clear, I hold the losest opinion on "Id Pol" than basically anyone who's done anything with KIA. The old moderators on half-kia would have fucking purged the place going anywhere near one-tenth of what I allow. So, this is a departure from what KIA and KIA2 allowed because it's more lenient.
Nah, it's more the thing where Imp talks about women the same way the 1488 people talk about minorities, which is the same way that leftists talk about white people, which I get why Dom doesn't want any of that shit around, Imp's thing is different from the other two, and at least while people may disagree with how he views things, I can actually see the problems he states in modern society (TRP is literally founded on being a more sane version of Imp, and Imp used to use TRP until he himself decided trying to sleep with women isn't worth it because false accusations). Lefties hating white people is the problem with modern society and I can't tell if all the 1488 people are feds or not.
Interesting, but have you ever asked a leftist if they would like to "1488" "minorities"? You guys with this "right loops back to left" stuff are taking some serious globohomo propaganda schlong up your asses. Only the TV, censors, and the most cringe, grifty, and fake e-celebs hold that opinion, as far as opinion sourcing goes. And I don't believe for a second any of you come to these conclusions on your own, personally. Things that people come up with on their own are generally practical, because they came into being by way of those people searching specifically for that which makes sense in real life / is not totally retarded. It is like globe earth haters who think travelling straight upward far enough would land you in australia. It's objectively nonsense and requires constant social validation and authority checks, as Dom accidentally explained in great detail.
But why the fuck is it the rule? That's the reason people are complaining. Honestly, we should have a weekly stickied thread where rule 16 doesn't exist and it's a free for all
Because a right-wing space is either explicitly right-wing, or it subverts to left-wing.
Rule 16 denies the application of a Marxist historical dialectic as part of an argument. The Left have always blamed some enemy class "bourgeoise" for the "oppression" of some victim class "proletariat". This manufactured hyper-reality generates the necessary sectarianism for a forceful revolution against the standards. The fundamental purpose of that narrative is to overthrow the order to establish a new Leftist one in it's place.
The Left uses it against any chosen group: the rich, the kulaks, the peasants, the rurals, the whites, the men, the jews, the blacks, the christans, the foreign, the indigenous, the whomever. It doesn't matter how, but as long as the dialectic is applied, it allows for the sectarians to howl that there is oppression, and such oppression must be met with violence and the imposition of a new socialist standard that brings "justice" for the victim class that are represented by the vangaurd, whom assume the role of a dictatorship of the proletariat.
This happens 100% of the time.
Honestly, we should have a weekly stickied thread where rule 16 doesn't exist and it's a free for all
It's not going to be a free for all. And it's also not going to be containment of Leftism. It is going to be a thread where anyone who doesn't agree with the narrative, will get berated out, and then they will complain horrifically that the thread is an evil containment vessel.
The purpose of rescinding Rule 16 is to attack the users and forum slide until this forum is also kept as the personal container for Leftist racialists. They have their own forums, and I've explicitly refused to engage in any sort of tit for tat with them on their turf. They do not want to leave anyone alone. They want conquest. They have no intention of an honest dialogue. Frankly, I suspect that a good portion of them are Useful Idiots of the Left, if not Leftists LARPing as Nazis anyway.
I honestly don't care about the 1488 dummies, as while I get why the ones who aren't feds believe what they do, I just think as you said, because the only way to get their way to a white ethnostate is using the power of the government to kick hundreds of millions of people out of the country, it'll just devolve into leftist authoritarianism in the end anyway.
I just feel like it's really fucking stupid that Imp keeps getting banned for the same shit over and over again when people here frequently say the exact same shit about "them" and get nothing. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that a large portion of the most passionate leftists are white women, Imp calls this out constantly and the 1488 people get in a rage about it and report him.
I personally would never report him because I think while he's way too extreme in his personal view, refusing to acknowledge that a massive portion of liberals are white women, simply because they're white is pretty bullshit. Those same 1488 people have a lot more in common with black conservatives than they do with white female liberals simply due to how they grew up, and I get that some of them think giving a liberal woman the dick is gonna cure the liberalism, if that was the case 100% of the time, the issue of trans kids wouldn't be a thing at all because it's the mothers that push it on their children most of the time.
IDK, I'm just annoyed that Imp's gone for another week just because either a liberal troll or a mad 1488er decided to report him on shit that isn't even that bad, and they regularly say worse and don't get reported for it.
TL;DR: I get why Rule 16 exists, I just think it's pretty fucking stupid to have to enforce it the way it is if it's really to prevent liberals from spamming how much they hate white people/their chosen oppressors, considering Haterjuiced and Jester don't post here anymore.
It's not fair; I just get back after a couple months glorious politics/news break, and Imp gets banned from KiA2 again (again) shortly thereafter.
I'm gonna start my own conspiracy theory: I'm Imp's sockpuppet.
Seriously, though...how the fuck can you ban Imp? He's a staple! Do I agree with what he says? 91% of the time, no. Do I think he should be banned...FUCK NO.
We free speech here, I thought that was our jam. We should be able to say 'fuck women' or 'fuck the the jews' or 'fuck white people' or 'fuck black people.'
We don't give a shit. Stop nanny-jannying.
Rules against attack "identity groups" are the BIG FUCKING GAY. Come at me.
Dom, stop banning Imp you utter faggot.
Dom: Rule 16 or whatever, don't do that, you're bad, don't talk like that, how dare you.
Perhaps you all should stop reporting him?
I don't and you're a colossal faggot for trying to throw this back on me.
I didn't say you. I said you all, as in plural.
People are reporting him.
If we mass report him every time he deletes a post does than mean he has to restore the post?
Well, I am kinda obliged to act on them, the issue is how I'm responding. In this case, Imp violated the rules, so I removed him.
I was wondering why it was so quiet around here. I don’t want anyone banned except spammers but I have to admit he really has been ramping up the retardation lately, I think the Kanye shit really fucked him up.
Exactly! All the more reason not to ban him.
I see him as a harmless eccentric, like a wacky sitcom character. Unfortunately we’re in season twelve and he’s still spouting the same catchphrases and his character hasn’t had a very interesting arc. Hopefully this Kanye stuff shakes things up a little more.
Honestly I'm not sure how harmless he'll eventually be, some days he feels about ready to write up his supreme gentleman's manifesto and go camping.
It’ll be the Kekistani Killer all over again.
Probably a bit late at this point as his near constant online status and posting has probably created enough to be viable as one.
On that post, he had commented:
That's all you can see now anyway. There might have been more after that. Edit: He claims he was banned for this comment.
Domitius replied:
That’s some bullshit.
someone made a kia5 on this site if your interested
There's way more 1488 posting there than here. It doesn't bother me but I've found that it does bother a lot of MGTOW types.
I'm not going to hangout with a bunch if feckless faggots who bitch and moan about society but would prefer some white commie over me because at least the commie is white
What happened kia3 and kia4?
They fell over, caught on fire, then sank into the swamp.
in a more serius awnser they exist on paper but i would liken them to a parked doman as all they do is redirect here likely in an attempt to prevent further fragmentation of the kia community.
I often disagree with imp.
But he's fucking right here. He's attributing a bit too much malicious intent to the majority of em, it's probably more of an emergent phenomenon for all but the actual feminist teachers, but the rise in female teachers absolutely is serving to feminise education and reward girls' behaviour and increase their marks, and there absolutely is a strain of feminism that does it intentionally and with malicious intent.
If this is the comment that gets him banned, then godspeed you beautiful obsessed bastard, you were too based. It's a good hill to die on, and I respect you.
lol mods should kill themselves
Comment Reported for: Rule 2 - Violent Speech (x3)
Yes, but it's directed towards me, so... I'll allow it.
So violent and scary
Rule 2spooky4me
I have spoken far more than that here lol. Never once banned
If no one reports your comments you don't have to worry about it. I never had a problem until some troon followed us from the pedo site and started reporting everything he thought would stick. Imp is always getting reported.
I get a lot removed
That's a bit bullshit but Imp could avoid the ban by being more specific, because it was a specific group of women (Progressives). That said, science has clearly shown that women do have an in-group bias whereas men are either neutral or also have a pro-women bias, so there is a sound argument there to say that women should not be teachers at all.
Imp could avoid the ban by specifically not being a psychopath.
Do I think Imp deserves his bans? Hell no. Do I think he could easily modulate his behavior to avoid most of them? Yeah. Do I think he's in a frame of mind to make that decision? Probably not.
That said, stop banning Imp. He amuses me.
On the one hand, the site is almost always far better quality with him gone. On the other hand, the reasons he gets banned are idiotic.
I have been so rude to him I feel it's meaningless to say I agree. But the answer among friends is to let time and debate serve as a crucible for truth. If that starts getting people banned then it suggests that the truth is a violation (say, hypothetically, of rule 16).
Whether Imp is right or wrong that women are mustache twirling villains, or further, at the center of a unifying conspiracy, is not relevant. At the root of it, he got banned for suggesting that ANYONE of ANY identity could HYPOTHETICALLY be up to ANYTHING bad. Newsflash: that rule applies to 99% of discussion in all the big wide world because every single person (A) has a personal identity and (B) is affected by the actions of others.
The rule is totally ubiquitous and therefore meaningless. It can only be imposed unfairly and at whim, because a fair and evenhanded enforcement would shut down the forum, or, at scale, the entire internet. It's everything you ever hated about the response to gamergate- INSIDE the GAMERGATE forum lol
I've never been able to get a clear answer as to why we have all those rules ported over from reddit. It makes me suspect that those who imported them are actually our enemies.
Dom just has a hard on for being a censorious faggot. He's a creature of the pedo site and operating outside the parameters of that sick culture is beyond his imagination let alone capability.
So never actually speak for fear of being prevented from speaking, huh? That's fucking retarded or more likely dishonest.
Would better with fewer rules. Something simple like no porn and nothing explicitly illegal.
I went from, "you're not wrong, you're just being retarded about it" to "ok, I can't take this shit any more. Please stop."
It's never good when you drive even people who agree with 95% of what you have to say crazy.
It would bother me more if I thought he were some interloping and deliberately subversive figure, but he is a "real guy" and believes what he says. I feel the abuse I've given him is more of a sin than his passionately attempting to advance his personal opinions with others. It can be a lot but the onus is on the mods to makes rules that are honest and functional instead of serving as pin-the-donkey mcguffins for frustrated jannitors
I feel weird going on an Imp-defense posting spree, but the dude amuses me, and his bans are always bullshit.
Yeah, it doesn't really matter what he says, I agree with you. Imp gets banned for being passionate. (He, or at least his reasoning, is wrong, in my opinion, but that's beside the point.) He's not banned specifically for his beliefs; we've all probably said similar things toward someone at some point; like you said, it applies to 99% of discussion. I know I've said some edgy fucking stuff that could be considered identity attacks. He's banned because he's consistent and stands by his belief system, however warped we may think that system might be.
That's pretty gay, if we ban people for being consistent. We've all Imp-posted at one time or another. Let's just do the free speech thing here.
No, he got banned for declaring that women (an entire demographic) were working as a cabal to control the world. Not just one, not just feminists, not just female teachers. All of those would have been fine. But, he didn't choose to do that, and focused on declaring an enemy class as an enemy cabal.
It's easy not to violate the rule, plenty of people know exactly how to avoid it because they do it all the time. In fact, Imp knows exactly how to do it, and actively refuses. That's his choice.
If he said 99.9% of women were in such a cabal, or 99.8%, or 99.7%... when does that go from violating this """""""""rule""""""""", to being in the clear?
If it's so important and so dependent on his naming ALL women, specifically every single woman, then lets ask him if my mom is not involved. If he says no, would you not either have to unban him, or else, admit to at least some degree the utter gatekeeping foolishness of the rule?
I say this knowing full well he might condemn my mother, but you understand the point I'm trying to make
I do understand the point your trying to make, but this isn't about perfect quantity, it's about declaring women to be a bourgeoisie, and the need for a sectarian class war against them.
That traps people in the identitarian framework which perpetuates the Leftist metanarrative. Sticking to specifics, rather than an applied historical dialectic means no rule gets violated, and you stay out of they hyper-reality of ideological sectarianism that the Left always exploits.
I have to keep bitching, I don't mean to be outright disrespectful to you in a personally attacky sort of way but separately I very much mean to treat your arguments that way. I think much of what you have mentioned here is illogical, amoral, or a philosophical dead end of one kind or another.
First it seems you are encouraging people to use double speak and avoiding saying what they actually mean, specifically as a show of compliance. I could spend all day giving this the "leftist metawhatever" treatment that you have presented me regarding Imp but I'll just say this is morally reprehensible in my opinion because I associate it with the USSR which I am biased against.
Next, it sounds to me like you are arguing the hypothetical suggestion of the existence or operation of any class of wealthy people in general is leftist metanarrative, and that on this basis, we have a social responsibility not to discuss the possibility. That is morally wrong and also factually incorrect. It is objectively true that wealthy people exist, and that each person has an identity, and that people within identity groups express in-group preference.
Even more nextly... do you reckon any of us can name an actual left wing forum where Imp would be welcome to attack all women on the basis you've presented here? (Being that since "woman" is an identity, and attacks on identity are sectarian, and leftists exploit this, it is therefore fundamentally leftist)?
My last bit of bitching is: does left wing thought exceed the limits of free speech on KIA2? In order to communicate here, should we only say right wing things? But not tooo right wing, since that's actually leftist again? Is there a chart somewhere to help miscreant posters identify the allowable portion of the spectrum of human thought?
Feel free.
("First") I'm not actually insinuating that they use double-speak, but they normally do, it's just not super relevant to most removals. I know the regulars opinions on certain issues, and I also know when they are intentionally clouding their language to appear more moderate. So yeah, it happens, but when they moderate, it doesn't typically violate the rules.
Hell, for some reason ConPro et all still come here and say "they" and (((them))) as if they can't just say jews. It's a little goofy.
("Next") No, but I can see your confusion because you're probably not understanding what I mean by an applied Marxist metanarrative. There's a structure to it:
Rule 16 is designed to hit most if not all of those simultaneously.
More over, those last four are literally always false. They are never true. No cabal encompasses an entire demographic, no matter what demographic you are using: race, age, ethnicity, religion, nationality, class, wealth, sex, etc. No demographic is united under a single collectivist mindset. It can't be, people are simply not mental slaves to inter-temporal and abstract collectivism: a rich man in Nigeria today, and rich man in 14th century England do not think the same. They do not have what the left calls "class solidarity". No demographic is innately evil. Pick any demographic, no demographic exists which is inherently morally repugnant. Being a billionaire is not immoral. That demographic is not the cause of your personal problems. You're car didn't fail to start this morning because of The Patriarchy.
And none of those meet that meta-narrative. For example, even though white Americans have the lowest in-group preference of any American Racial demographic, there are still whites that hate themselves and do not want the white race to continue. The White Supremacist Cisheteronormative Patriarchy is the cabal those whites are accused of supporting. It is not true, but the accusation is made that they are racist, well past the point of their death. Simultaneously, black Americans have the highest in-group preference. But this is not evidence of a black cabal. Even black racialists themselves engage in in-fighting and target black 'race traitors' who are not succumbing to a cabal that they are trying to create.
("Even More Nextly") Leftism seeks conquest and changes itself to fit new environments. Imp would be welcome in a Leftist environment if they had one that worked like that at the moment. In previous decades, and in other areas, his attitude was much closer to the normal. There was an ad for a candy bar in Romania (which under Communism was the only candy bar allowed). They had a woman dressed up like Misty from Pokemon, and all of the sudden Nicolae Ceaușescu walks in and condemns her dress for being counter-revolutionary. She is abducted by the state, forced to dress in Communist Youth clothing, and thrown into the street. Leftism is in favor of acting like a slut in our country, and in our time, but that will change. There is no consistent principles within Leftism.
Only such that it does not violate Rule 16. It's a fucking major stumbling block to their argumentation. It's 4"x4"x10' strip of concrete in the middle of the walkway. They're forced to argue around their claims, but their central claims would very likely violate Rule 16. Rule 16 means they can never argue the White Supremacist Cisheteronormative Patriarchy, or even just The Patriarchy. They are forced to argue only at topical levels about 'men needing to be taught not to rape', and having those specific topical issues challenged directly. They can't defer to The Patriarchy as an avenue of escape when the conversation doesn't go their way, and they can be called out for being the bigoted trash they are with an embarrassing removal.
We don't see it here on Scored that much, but I have had to do it on Reddit, and it really throws them for a fucking loop. Their fundamental presuppositions are axiomatically rejected, and they typically don't have any counter. Even if they did, the counter is not tolerated. So, they channelized back into the topical argument, or they have to abandon the whole thing altogether. When given that choice, they typically just give the ground and don't come back. It actually works. All that's left are the Haterjuiced style trolls who continue to operate within the rules, and make for excellent engagement with opposing views because they are constantly stuck on-topic.
And to be clear, I hold the losest opinion on "Id Pol" than basically anyone who's done anything with KIA. The old moderators on half-kia would have fucking purged the place going anywhere near one-tenth of what I allow. So, this is a departure from what KIA and KIA2 allowed because it's more lenient.
I doubt you want another response from me Dom, in which case you're in luck because I'm in a crunch today
Nah, it's more the thing where Imp talks about women the same way the 1488 people talk about minorities, which is the same way that leftists talk about white people, which I get why Dom doesn't want any of that shit around, Imp's thing is different from the other two, and at least while people may disagree with how he views things, I can actually see the problems he states in modern society (TRP is literally founded on being a more sane version of Imp, and Imp used to use TRP until he himself decided trying to sleep with women isn't worth it because false accusations). Lefties hating white people is the problem with modern society and I can't tell if all the 1488 people are feds or not.
Interesting, but have you ever asked a leftist if they would like to "1488" "minorities"? You guys with this "right loops back to left" stuff are taking some serious globohomo propaganda schlong up your asses. Only the TV, censors, and the most cringe, grifty, and fake e-celebs hold that opinion, as far as opinion sourcing goes. And I don't believe for a second any of you come to these conclusions on your own, personally. Things that people come up with on their own are generally practical, because they came into being by way of those people searching specifically for that which makes sense in real life / is not totally retarded. It is like globe earth haters who think travelling straight upward far enough would land you in australia. It's objectively nonsense and requires constant social validation and authority checks, as Dom accidentally explained in great detail.
But why the fuck is it the rule? That's the reason people are complaining. Honestly, we should have a weekly stickied thread where rule 16 doesn't exist and it's a free for all
Because a right-wing space is either explicitly right-wing, or it subverts to left-wing.
Rule 16 denies the application of a Marxist historical dialectic as part of an argument. The Left have always blamed some enemy class "bourgeoise" for the "oppression" of some victim class "proletariat". This manufactured hyper-reality generates the necessary sectarianism for a forceful revolution against the standards. The fundamental purpose of that narrative is to overthrow the order to establish a new Leftist one in it's place.
The Left uses it against any chosen group: the rich, the kulaks, the peasants, the rurals, the whites, the men, the jews, the blacks, the christans, the foreign, the indigenous, the whomever. It doesn't matter how, but as long as the dialectic is applied, it allows for the sectarians to howl that there is oppression, and such oppression must be met with violence and the imposition of a new socialist standard that brings "justice" for the victim class that are represented by the vangaurd, whom assume the role of a dictatorship of the proletariat.
This happens 100% of the time.
It's not going to be a free for all. And it's also not going to be containment of Leftism. It is going to be a thread where anyone who doesn't agree with the narrative, will get berated out, and then they will complain horrifically that the thread is an evil containment vessel.
The purpose of rescinding Rule 16 is to attack the users and forum slide until this forum is also kept as the personal container for Leftist racialists. They have their own forums, and I've explicitly refused to engage in any sort of tit for tat with them on their turf. They do not want to leave anyone alone. They want conquest. They have no intention of an honest dialogue. Frankly, I suspect that a good portion of them are Useful Idiots of the Left, if not Leftists LARPing as Nazis anyway.
I honestly don't care about the 1488 dummies, as while I get why the ones who aren't feds believe what they do, I just think as you said, because the only way to get their way to a white ethnostate is using the power of the government to kick hundreds of millions of people out of the country, it'll just devolve into leftist authoritarianism in the end anyway.
I just feel like it's really fucking stupid that Imp keeps getting banned for the same shit over and over again when people here frequently say the exact same shit about "them" and get nothing. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that a large portion of the most passionate leftists are white women, Imp calls this out constantly and the 1488 people get in a rage about it and report him.
I personally would never report him because I think while he's way too extreme in his personal view, refusing to acknowledge that a massive portion of liberals are white women, simply because they're white is pretty bullshit. Those same 1488 people have a lot more in common with black conservatives than they do with white female liberals simply due to how they grew up, and I get that some of them think giving a liberal woman the dick is gonna cure the liberalism, if that was the case 100% of the time, the issue of trans kids wouldn't be a thing at all because it's the mothers that push it on their children most of the time.
IDK, I'm just annoyed that Imp's gone for another week just because either a liberal troll or a mad 1488er decided to report him on shit that isn't even that bad, and they regularly say worse and don't get reported for it.
TL;DR: I get why Rule 16 exists, I just think it's pretty fucking stupid to have to enforce it the way it is if it's really to prevent liberals from spamming how much they hate white people/their chosen oppressors, considering Haterjuiced and Jester don't post here anymore.
probably for interrupting dom while chewing dried foreskin.
Dom was chewing dried foreskin while he got interrupted , or imp was chewing and also interrupting at the same time?
yes
He almost certainly got rule 16'ed for his posts about women.
Women are horrible creatures who only exist to torment men and willingly profit off of human misery. Except for my mom
Mine though definitely
Dom got called out for selectively trying to ban pro-white and jew-noticing commentary while giving his jidf boyfriend a pass. He didn't have a choice
I shed no tears for him and his retarded beliefs, but banning is counter to what this site ostensibly stands for and just feeds his victim complex.
He probably bitched about women all day like usual.
nothing legitimate
It's not fair; I just get back after a couple months glorious politics/news break, and Imp gets banned from KiA2 again (again) shortly thereafter.
I'm gonna start my own conspiracy theory: I'm Imp's sockpuppet.
Seriously, though...how the fuck can you ban Imp? He's a staple! Do I agree with what he says? 91% of the time, no. Do I think he should be banned...FUCK NO.
We free speech here, I thought that was our jam. We should be able to say 'fuck women' or 'fuck the the jews' or 'fuck white people' or 'fuck black people.'
We don't give a shit. Stop nanny-jannying.
Rules against attack "identity groups" are the BIG FUCKING GAY. Come at me.
What are we? Half-KiA?
Hahaha, someone came through and downvoted everyone. Stay salty, dumbass.