I live in Texas where we got some big wins but the rest of the country I’m confused. You have people who are upset about inflation and Biden policies but still voted for dems. He will keep pushing the climate cult agenda and I feel bad for those who live where winters get very cold. I truly hope heat isn’t an issue.
I really hope more states address mail in ballots. I guarantee if a democrat lost due to days of ballot drops after the election the media would be screeching. It just seems suspicious. Only people who have mobility issues or the elderly/military should use it. Otherwise I don’t get why votes can’t be counted by the end of Election Day. I love the convenience of early voting but if they made it one day I could take time to vote.
But anyway, life goes on but I’m honestly surprised. I thought red wave wasn’t going to happen but I didn’t expect this. Trans nonsense, climate cult, economic illiteracy, and politicians who care more about criminals than victims. I think abortion made some difference as well and the media but that’s always there. Should people on the right just move to red states? Or maybe we can ban lefties from moving to red states.
I remember a guy here in the Dallas Ft Worth area got mad because after he complained about conservative nut jobs in Texas (he moved from Illinois) I asked him why he moved here. He said he has a right to move where he wants and I said I’m not moving to Chicago and whining about the far left policies there so I don’t like people moving here and trying to change things
Simple. Blue districts stalled until reporting was in for red districts. Then they printed and filled out completely fictitious ballots in enough numbers to win.
As for the rest, well most people are idiots. The average IQ being 100 does not mathematically mean most people have that number. The vast majority of the Democrat voting population has 90 or below.
You shouldn't really be surprised. Every liberal is a Bolshevik. They will cheat happily.
I am completely blown away by the willingness of red counties to report their vote totals before the cities. It was a complete no-brainer to withhold tallies until all the votes were counted.
The Republican party does not want to win.
Red-aligned white people believing in the fundamental decency of people who openly want to exterminate them is going to lead to the most predictable result in history.
I guess they thought people were still playing by the rules, somehow.
I'm hoping this slaughter finally wakes people up but I'm really not optimistic. We're not going to be able to dislodge this regime peacefully. Maybe when President Pedo and his fraudulently elected congressional enablers finally crash the economy for good people will realize that.
People won’t wake up until actual slaughter begins, then they’ll wonder how we got here.
It should read "Democrat voting population.". Thank you for the spot.
Communist indoctrination through schools and media skews the numbers
Paleo liberals actually had a sense of decorum about things-- the alinskyite 'rules for radicals' crowd gaining power as 'the new left' changed that for the worse. That's when neo-Marxist Bolshevism based on race and sex metastasized. Libs believe the right is morally evil, while the right only looks at the left as ill-informed.
The reality of the left's moral inversion is that the culture war has become a good vs. evil struggle, with the right getting traditional morality of all kinds ascribed onto it (regardless of how well that maps over reality.)
They had no such thing. Political leftism, as opposed to moral leftism which has satanic roots, derives its origins from Jacobean ideology. That was a blood festival that wasn't equaled for a century afterwards.
Every now and then they can't help themselves from going way too far(because morally they're demonic to the core) and earning a justified extermination from the rest of us. Then they hide for a few decades and start infiltrating to get their hooks in again. They're like a cycle of locusts.
So many things fucked the GOP.
Mail in ballot fraud definitely happened in key areas.
Most painful Senate loss is NV senate where Laxalt was a A tier candidate. Harry Reid's ghost and his decrepit machine of Clark county mail in ballots cost us that race.
PA Senate with Oz was a disaster from the very beginning, Philly ballot drops were going to immensely hurt any Senate candidate in PA but Oz was beyond shit as a candidate. So many Republicans thought he was a RINO because he was a Hollywood Oprah affiliated tv doctor. That lost him some real Republican votes.
I am also sure some white working class voters fucking voted for Fetterman because Oz is a Muslim. He definitely lost Republican leaning votes because of his religious background. Now add in philly ballot drops. PA Senate was gone the day Oz became the nominee.
Mastriano was a shit candidate for PA governor who turned off all suburban moderates when he made comments that he thinks women should be arrested for having abortions. He lost by 13 points in a year that was supposed to be red leaning which sunk all down ballot races. PA GOP actually lost the state house and every swing house race in PA.
Arizona obviously has a shitton of fraud since the Dem candidate for governor is secretary of state and overseeing the elections.
AZ senate: Masters was running against a astronaut liar who was skilled at pretending to be moderate. Masters has also made retarded comments like praising the Unibomber as a subversive thinker and talked about reforming social security. Fraud definitely hurt the Arizona races but Master was very flawed as a candidate for the suburbs and elderly voters.
GA: the Libertarian on the ballot fucked Herschel Walker. Herschel walker is a football legend but once again too many suburb cucks thought his out of wedlock children was a problem.
The overturn of Roe v Wade angered all of the whores and they came out in force for the Dems as well.
Every Trump endorsed candidate in a swing house seat depressingly lost. Even in red Ohio where there was minimal fraud, Trumpers like Madison Gesiotto and JR Majewski fucking lost.
Joe Kent lost a Trump +8 seat in Washington since the fucking establishment helped his Dem opponent and Kent kept making unnecessarily incendiary comments about Ukraine that we may think are based but the cuck suburbs despise.
Leavitt in NH lost. Bo Hines in NC lost.
This midterm result was due to fraud, backlash to Roe overturn, shit candidates in swing states and a big suburban backlash to any Trump affiliated swing house district candidate.
Lessons for 2024:
GOP needs to play the ballot harvesting game in states where they don't have the power to ban it.
Must have good Senate candidates in swing states: No Oz or Walker level candidates.
Run non Trump affiliated candidates in swing house districts. Trump affiliated candidates have done terribly in nearly all swing districts.
Also don't fucking run Trump again in 2024. He is incapable of fighting mail in ballot fraud and can't adapt.
DeSantis used early mail in voting to his advantage in Florida.
Trump will lose every swing state he lost in 2020 again and likely also lose Texas and North Carolina in 2024.
Suburbs in Texas just really hate Cruz and Trump. Compare their margins to every other candidate.
The rsearch triangle area in North Carolina will go smurf blue with Trump on the ballot.
I don't really expect any 2024 candidate to win the Presidency without adapting to mail in ballot harvesting but Trump 2024 uniquely maximizes downballot losses and motivates Dems like no other candidate.
Basically we need to become better cheaters than the Dems if we can't ensure honest elections. Everything else is irrelevant. I still find the Trump/DeSantis fights silly because it presumes that actually winning votes matters anymore. I'd agree with you about things like candidate quality and not running Trump if voting actually mattered, but it clearly doesn't. I favor DeSantis myself, but I just don't think that normal political concerns are relevant when the other side is stealing elections in broad daylight.
Ballot harvesting is legal in certain states like CA.
Let me be clear, Republicans must fully play by the differing legal rules of each and every state.
They must ONLY do what is legal in each state.
Republicans have no institutional power.
Republican political operatives need to understand that they will get the book thrown at them for jaywalking.
Congressional Republicans in CA know what to do.
The national Republicans must learn from them.
They'll get the book thrown at them for using on the sidewalk as well. A team of lawyers and a sympathetic judge will happily twist some interpretation of a law to punish their political opposition.
The prosecution of Rittenhouse sincerely argued that "sometimes, ya just got ta take a beatin'." Fortunately the jury and judge in that case were sane.
Whether you agree with Alex Jones or not, him being fined billions of dollars for using his free speech has set the precedent
Unfortunately millions of NPCs agreed with the treatment both of those people got. It's not just the Democrats or the government who are your enemy. It's not necessarily your neighbor either. It's the media.
If Oprah's heart doctor couldn't beat a shambling communist ogre with real medically verifiable brain damage who cannot complete sentences on TV and made emptying the prisons his signature issue, no candidate could have beaten him. The election system there is simply too fortified to be defeated by any legitimate approach.
I'm sure that has nothing to do with Bitch McConnell withholding funding for those races and the R candidate being out spent 5 to 1.......
Normies have been sold the meme that the left is kind and looking out for the little guy, while the right is mean and only cares about the rich.
Voting left is the default option for many.
With vote harvesting, people come to them months before the election, before they've had a closer look at the issues, and get their vote with a "vote for the good guys, no need to think, clearly you're one of the good guys, that's right let me see you put that check down just making sure you're not a bad guy, heh heh heh, that's right buddy, we are just the same, thanks bye now"
You can't win this. It's not about good candidates.
The right is running on generalist principles. Less immigration helps us all. Lower taxes is good for the economy.
The left's running on pure clientism. "We will take from those people and reward you, our beloved comrades".
It's not that nonwhites vote D because they're more progressive. In fact they're often much less progressive.
They vote D because they're clients, and stand to benefit. Simple as that.
As long as this continues, the R's can't win. The only way to defeat clientism is to form a coalition of your own clients and reward them.
Economic incentives work!
You don't win by trying to get 50% of black women to vote for you, instead of 8%. You win by getting 65% of whites to vote for you instead of 57%.
The right must change their tactics, and in doing so they have to abandon some of their principles regarding handouts. They need to change the perspective. Because there are more important things at stake now.
A message that would win would have to include some sort of economic support to the middle class. Could be government provided healthcare. Free university for middle class kids as longs as the university is unbiased / supports free speech. That would also go a long way towards challenging The Science and the cathedral. Tax break for blue collar workers. Child support checks for kids of truckers. A 20% salary raise for police officers, firemen, and other first responders. Remove taxes on small businesses taking in less than $5m gross p/a. Grants to small businesses that are looking to open a second location. Just something. Anything that your clients benefit from. Something to reach out to the base and support them.
Target the white middle class, that you're now getting just over 50% votes from, and get that to 70% and run your own vote harvesting operations to this demographic. Do this and you will win every election (at least for the next 10-20 years), regardless of what the D's are doing.
Right but the right is hardly not doing this either.
The last rightwingish person I talked to on ye-propaganda-site was babbling on about how awful it was that people got unemployment and $1k during covid lockdowns.
But they spend no time talking about not having lockdowns in the first place
So they'd still do lockdowns, then you'd get fired with no unemploymemt and no assustance, and just burn through money and die? That's only a position that appeals to people who lock themselves into mansions.
The right lacks the backbone to stand up to leftist insanity, only finding a voice to tell the peasants they don't deserve anything.
it's Mitt Romney's comment all over again.
I agree completely.
The right needs to model itself after the benevolent king. Instead of the neoliberal god that cares only for progress and producing economic value.
Keith Woods is an interesting voice here, as are many others on the right who are waking up to the fact that our cultural and societal struggle shouldn't be to protect and defend capitalism and the elites at all cost - but to make sure that people can live freely; free to make their own rules, free from globalist degeneracy, free to preserve their own cultures and traditions, free to protect themselves against the Empire Ideology.
In return for loyalty and devotion, the king must care about his followers.
Very good analysis. Just seeing what happened in Texas shows that suburbs will lean red when Trump or Cruz aren’t on the ticket. I couldn’t believe the governor candidate in PA would say that about abortion in a purple state. And yea mail in ballots are the death of the GOO so use it to our advantage I guess
I think the Republican primary voters of PA are the worst primary voters in the country.
They could have picked conservative Lou Barletta for governor and had an ok chance of winning but no they had to pick Mastriano who also bussed people to DC on J6. The man was made in a lab to lose the fucking suburbs.
An infuriating statistic: Mastriano lost the White vote as a Republican in PA!
How do you even achieve that?
Mastriano is the worst candidate of the whole cycle which is actually saying a lot.
Fuck off with muh j6. They didnt do anything you blm simping progressive. Shapiro and fetterwomen endorsed and bailed out blm terrorists who burned down entire cities, but you support that.
And Mastriano lost due to literal fraud.
Its a sad state of things when on this board of all places you have people lamenting based candidates being nominated because they're unpalatable to normies or something. News flash: a uniparty cuck winning with an R next to their name is barely better than a D winning.
The path to victory for Republicans in PA used to be win the rural counties solidly and not get destroyed in the suburban counties like Bucks.
Mastriano got destroyed in the suburban counties and vastly underperformed in the rurals.
Yep the suburbs are now crucial to victory in any swing governor/senator/house district races.
Based on the results of the last three cycles (2018, 2020 and 2022): We can clearly see what type of candidate can work in these type of races.
Candidates with Trump 2016 policy but not copying his behavior or openly affiliating with him heavily can win. Candidates that are traditional republicans who I don't prefer can also win these races.
What doesn't win these races? A candidate displaying heavy affiliation with Trump constantly and/or copying Trump's personality. Every single one of these candidates got destroyed.
In this cycle: there were so many of these bad fit candidates who lost crucial races that another candidate had a better chance of winning.
Doug Mastriano- PA gov
Tudor Dixon- MI gov
Tim Michels - WI gov
John Gibbs- Michigan house district 3
JR Majewski- Ohio house district 9
Madison Gesiotto Gilbert - Ohio house district 13
Joe Kent - Washington house district 3
Bo Hines- North Carolina house district 13
Karoline Leavitt- NH house district 1
Is it worth it winning with weaker opposition? What is the long-term plan?
They lost to fraud. But tell me again why orange man bad but democrats who defend blm terrorism good?
Is that due to people moving into rural areas?
Most people don't understand politics. They just do what they are told. While I do believe elections are rigged, the results are also not surprising. Sometimes I feel like too many people here don't venture outside of their bubbles in major cities. The average person is a complete retard when it comes to politics.
Dems have been better at blaming inflation on Putler than Republicans have about convincing people they will fix it. Republicans had a bad overarching strategy of going negative on inflation instead of focusing on their solutions. That strategy might have worked if Dems were in charge longer than two years. Add that to the terrible candidates we've been talking about here, and they don't look serious about fixing the major problems America faces (because they aren't serious).
I might get downvoted for this, but I think Trump lost his mojo. His 2016 platform was all about immigration and bringing jobs back to the US. He didn't keep his eye on the ball while on office or now.
The elephant (heh) in the room is replacement migration. While DeSantis was able to do well with Hispanics/Latinos, the party as a whole has not performed well with non-whites so the only demo that likes them is being replaced. Republicans had nearly 60 years now to stop that. Instead of stopping it, they have been trying to find replacement demos so they can throw whites under the bus.
You can bet the party is looking to move away from Trump and toward DeSantis. A candidate that can win someone besides whites is something they've been dying for, but it will be a delicate operation for them. If Trump is combative about it, it could really explode on them, torpedoing both Trump and DeSantis and leaving them without a successor.
I really don't think that these sorts of post mortems are relevant. It just doesn't matter when the other side is stealing elections from right under our noses. It's not all that different than business owners concluding that BLM looting was caused by their prices being too high.
Regarding election fraud it really burns me up that we had to hear about endless Trump/Russia collusion and then the media had the audacity to act like you were crazy if you were the least bit suspicious about 2020. Then again the cheered on riots but acted like Jan 6 was worse than 9/11
The difference between the two is institutional support.
Those who lead the institutions decide what is deemed by normies as good and what is deemed by normies as bad.
I know that it is brutally unfair but that is just how life is in the West.
Yea I don’t get pandering to different racial groups if there are no results. I’m black and I’ve just accepted that at best maybe 12% will vote GOP. My dad said after 2020 if he was counseling the GOP he wouldn’t spend one more dime trying to get black votes because there are no results. And like you said you can’t just ignore white ppl.
With Trump I think minus Covid he wins in a landslide. Or he wins easily. Media was very effective in scaring people and Trump could’ve done a better job by not having Fauci call the shots. My biggest fear with a Trump 2024 run is that he will endlessly rehash the 2020 election
Reagan was the death nail for the usa when he gave amnesty to latino trash
Whatever the voting rules used to be, they're no longer being used.
Instead, what they do is find/create votes until they win, miraculously, several days after the vote took place.
You'll notice that never works in republican's favor though, only the democrats.
Always the democrats.
I quit voting for 16 years after the Gore/Bush fiasco in 2000.
In 2016 I started voting again; 2022 may be the last time. It's a rigged game and I don't want to play anymore.
The only time my vote ever made a difference was back in the 1990s when I lived in a small burg and we got rid of a corrupt mayor with a 17 point win. Anything on a larger scale and your vote is meaningless.
I totally agree with the sentiment. I don't want to play either, but we need to, strategically speaking.
Forcing retreat through demoralization is the playbook our enemies are using.
Yes, the field is tipped and the game rigged for our loss. Voting has become a vital rear-guard action, which forces our enemies to spend resources maintaining their dominance. We will lose through fortification, but we cannot afford to let them take office unopposed.
They have to be bled for every victory they take to blunt their momentum.
That's because leftist are utopian zealots. They'll recognize a problem exist but come to the conclusion that it's because things aren't far enough left
Almost no one showed up to vote. Mid-term-itis set in. People are tired of politics and as usual, are fucking worthless. But, even I didn't vote. I couldn't as I was waiting for a fucking phone call about my new job and missed my chance before having to go into work. 8 hour workday on fucking election day. Fucking cunts.
At this point I see no future for blue states. They are voting for the same shit that is destroying their strongholds and it will only get worse. I look forward to the 60s slide into depression and destruction. Both parties are going down.
I wanna be positive but it seems like so many people will support Dems regardless and the huge cities are all blue.
The Democrat voting base is very machiavellian compared to the Republican voting base. The Republican Party needs to be rebuilt from the ground up though, because Republicans (like their Democrat counterparts) are corporate prostitutes and are so easily manipulated by leftist propaganda.
The day after I was saying a mix of bad candidates, being out spent, and mass mail in voting and ballot harvesting. I still think that was a major factor in races decided election night. But all these races that went longer than one day....really smells like the same old fraud from 2020.
At some point you get enough of a sample to predict the split of a batch of votes based on what type of vote it is and where it is from. When all the trajectories based on what votes remain show good chances for the republican candidate get completely thrown out of whack in the important races by unexpected batches of ballots and batches slanting in a direction they realistically shouldn't, it is impossible for me to explain it with anything other than fraud.
I saw two thoughtful comments that I'll repost here. I don't necessarily agree with everything they say but I think they add to the conversation.
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I don’t think abortion played as big of a role in this disappointment as people are letting on. Did it play a small part? Sure. But I don’t believe it played a significant role.
Why do I think this? Look at the candidates who did well last night:
• Desantis / Rubio. They far exceeded the polls and absolutely dominated what many consider to be a swing state. The polls had them winning by 11 pts and 9 pts, and they won by 20 and 17 respectively.
• Abbott, Dewine, Kemp. Performed about on par with the polls. Abbott and Dewine govern over two States that have been much maligned in the media (Texas and Ohio) for their abortion policy. If abortion was the driving factor for this poor outcome, I would’ve expected Abbott and Dewine to perform much poorer than they did. These are three swing States these republicans just won handily. I know Texas and Ohio lean R pretty heavily, but they’re still swing States to some degree. Abbott outperformed Trump’s margin by 6 pts and Dewine outperformed Trump by 18 pts. Kemp outperformed Trump in Georgia by 8.
• Kari Lake, Lombardo, and Laxalt. Not sure if they will win, but they seem to have a good shot as of right now. Even if they lose, they seem to be performing on par with the polling.
What’s the common theme here? Good candidates who ran good campaigns. All of these candidates (primarily the 5 in the first two sections) have been thrashed routinely by the media and still did quite well because truth be told they are good candidates.
Now who did poorly last night?
• Oz / Mastriano. Shit candidates that no one liked. Even polling that showed Oz ahead showed that the favorables for these two candidates were in the gutter.
Walker. Another shitty candidate. Currently he is underperforming Kemp in Georgia by 4 pts. A candidate with terrible unfavorables, ran a terrible campaign, and had a bunch of scandals.
JD Vance didn’t do too well. Another shitty candidate. He underperformed Dewine by 20. He was also a shitty candidate who was of the extremely pro-trump / stop the steal mold.
• Blake Masters. Another shitty candidate, with similar issues to JD Vance. He is underperforming Kari Lake by about 3.
What’s the common theme I see here? It’s candidate quality. The candidates who are good candidates and ran effective campaigns performed better than or as well as expected, and the shitty candidates who ran chaotic campaigns performed extremely poorly. I really think it’s as simple as that. You had polling in States such as Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Georgia that showed voters wanted a Republican senate, but they preferred the Democrat Senator on their ballot over the Republican one.
The last thing I’ll add is that the Republican candidates who did well were all pretty much in State-level races. Abortion policy is largely dictated at the State level, not the federal level. If abortion was really the deciding factor, the Democrats would have dominated the State-level elections, but the Republicans actually did quite well in the local elections. It was the federal elections where the republicans struggled, elections where we coincidently ran shitty candidates.
Thanks for this breakdown
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Can we just be real here? There are some obvious things to learn here.
Abortion just killed many Republicans. Tons of conservatives buried their head in the sand because they were giddy over Dobbs and ignored the reality that this is a gigantic loser for Republicans. It created a ton of single issue voters that could have easily been had in this environment had it not been for Dobbs and then Republicans taking wildly unpopular positions on it in the aftermath. Conservatives need to do what the libs do on guns. Bite their lip, and run away screaming towards being very moderate at worst on it.
Until we can get Election Day back instead of election month, conservatives need to do a 180 on early voting and encourage it just as hard as Dems do. I’m sure we lose tons of would be voters on Election Day when something happens and they don’t make it to the polls. Votes that could be had if they planed on voting early or even by mail and had the flexibility to overcome an issue keeping them from voting day of. Dems get to keep those would be lost votes because they have correctly identified this.
Trump has to go man. I know there’s lots of big Trump fans here but he’s just a huge drag on the entire party. He’s a huge net loser in general elections and yesterday reiterated what we failed to learn 2 years ago. It’s time to jettison him today. We don’t need him anywhere near the future of the GOP and we certainly don’t need him losing a primary, doing his fraud thing and keeping people from supporting them in a general.
GOP strategy and messaging leadership all needs to go. Fact of the matter is this was the best possible climate to make huge waves and they lost a lot of messaging battles when all the Dems had is “democracy at risk and abortion.” The GOP utterly failed to make any coherent case on why they are the obvious better choice.
Candidate quality matters and we need to keep that in mind going forward. Oz and Walker are jokes. Mastreino was so bad it probably costed Oz the win. Kinda ties into the Trump point but running these losers was always a doomed practice.
Time to drop the stolen election routine. People don’t like it. They don’t like it when Mastreino does it, they don’t like it when Abrams does it. If the GOP can’t message correctly and define the line between loose voting practices (good) and Trump trying to get as many people to say “it was stolen” (bad) then they just need to stay away from it all together.
We will get the house, and can stonewall most of Bidens agenda for the next 2 years while hopefully the GOP figure this stuff out.
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White women voted 55% gop. Blacks and latinos voted 90/70% democrat.
But tell me more how blacks and latinos are "nAtUrAl CoNsErVaTiVeS". Reminder that california went solid blue after reagan gave amnesty to latonos.
What do you propose to do about this?