This was always the goal of the greens, I'm surprised she actually said the quiet part out loud.
EVERY. SINGLE. Left. wing. movement. is just communism.
Trannies/faggots? communism.
Chimpout race theory? communism
Feminism? communism.
Global warming? communism.
Vegans? communism.
Unions? communism.
Jews stirring the pot? communism.
Collectivists/authoritarians? communism.
"teh scientific consensoos?" communism.
The communists work very hard, day and night, to cultivate every single loser and outcast within the dominant capitalist system, and then weaponize them to try to undermine and overthrow the dominant capitalist system in order to open the road for communism.
Gotta love the mostly Jewish men and women who came up with Communism. Again, works great if you have a group of 100 villagers all working together to survive. At such a scale it's just Globohomo authoritarianism.
That's actually quite easy: Pay them a reasonable amount for what their non-top-tier existence is worth, and offer incentives and rewards of reduced work or responsibility for good performance.
Problem is, no one would ever adapt this system. The capitalists say "no, they must be motivated by money, not comfort!", the communists say "no, they must work to death in the fields, no matter their prior occupation!", and the fake-communists say "no, that, like, totally throws off my vibes, you know, like, you know?".
Capitalism already adopted this exact system. The problem is that "reasonable amount" is never good enough. People always want more. Every person, no matter how worthless, thinks they deserve to be King. No system is ever good enough for everyone.
Capitalism is the best system, the problem is that most people are worthless so you can entice them to do what's against society's interest by bribing them with offering more than they are worth. That's what communists do.
Every person, no matter how worthless, thinks they deserve to be King.
And this problem is exacerbated when you've got leftists whispering, "see that guy over there with all that nice stuff? He stole it from you." in everybody's ears.
In the old days those guys were disemboweled in the public square as the evenings entertainment, or maybe just forced to drink hemlock like good old Socrates.
Nowadays I don't know what the solution is. You can't stop agitation through legal means, yet they use subverted institutions to cause harm to anyone who disagrees with them harm through social and economic violence.
It's true. Only now it's identity communism, another word for neo-Marxism, with identity on the intersectional scale of "oppression" replacing the workers, the Proletariat.
It's funny when they all inevitably degenerate into the pet issue they actually wanted to push all along. Years ago every left protest movement would turn into a Free Palestine thing, now 100% of them exist to push gender shit.
The Chinks (I think) are still old-school Marxists, not on board with the Gramsci/Adorno/Marcuse identity program as far as I know, which makes them an anachronism.
When did we moved from global warming to climate change to climate justice.
What is climate justice, justice for whom exactly?
According to the mentally ill young lady in order to fix the climate we also need to atone for imperialism and colonialism and racism. This is done, as everyone guessed, by shifting to communism.
Yawn, same old shit from the left as always, just using the environment as a skinsuit. Maybe we should copy one of their great leaders Stalin and put them all on an island and let them eat each other, Literally
Considering the current capitalist system, where the people own of the means of production under a dictatorship of proletarianized elites, has brought us sodomy, feminism, replacement migration, and ritual child sacrifice, overthrowing it top to bottom sounds great.
Unrestrained capital will seek to expand mass and scale through homogenizing aggregate demand to the lowest common denominator by promoting and satisfying cosmopolitan hedonism. This creates the same leveling effect that is the stated goal of communists: the abolition of global human differentiation. Capitalism is a tool that must be forced to submit to the needs of the nation instead of allowing nations to be enslaved by the needs of capital.
We're in the mess we're in because state regulatory agencies stifle competition. Massive corporations can write off million dollar fines as an itemized expense, upstarts cannot. Many of those massive corporations got so massive because of state subsidies. We need less state/business interaction, not more.
Ignoring the reliance on the silly liberal myth that politics can be separate from economics, that would stop the drive towards globohomo how exactly? The logical conclusion of abolition of regulation is the abolition of borders, reducing the world to mere economic zones with no regard for peoples.
And planned economies are better? Gobohomo has taken root because those state regulatory agencies were co-opted by the globohomos to consolidate their market control.
You're still stuck in the false dichotomy of capitalism versus communism. Markets regulated in the interests of the nation is a thing. For a practical example check out Princes of Yen, the book and the movie. The short version is that the Zaibatsus were put back in charge of Japan's economy post war. The national bank was very succesful directing investments into capex through credit controls, until globohomo sabatuers purposefully created and popped a bubble in order to restructure the market for western investors.
Gobohomo has taken root because those state regulatory agencies were co-opted by the globohomos to consolidate their market control.
You've just described why markets cannot separate from politics, since power naturally consolidates. Either commercial enterprises submit to the government or they will become the government. The lolbertarian vision is no less disconnected from reality than the communist's and leads to the same end in practice due to Deleuzian territorialization.
I don't believe regulators who 'operate in national interest' will remain in the national interest. Like you said, power consolidates, and an agency that regulates economics is a very powerful entity. Wouldn't take long until it's co-opted.
Capitalism is a tool that must be forced to submit to the needs of the nation instead of allowing nations to be enslaved by the needs of capital.
Damn straight. We are seeing the "needs of capital" contributing to the transformation of the republic into a fascist bureaucratic state. The fact that our elections are becoming compromised is part of the overall campaign to place even more power in the hands of corporations in cooperation with the USG, with the big tech outfits in the vanguard, naturally.
Escape the hauntologies of the 20th century. There are no fascists nor communists nor even liberals around. They are all functionally dead ideologies that were peculiar to an era. Using fascist for bad stuff is particularly egregious as it validates the progressive moral framework. You cannot win by positioning yourself as the real antifa.
Well, what would you call the current relationship between the USG and corporations, particularly Big Tech?
I'm not interested in competing with antifa, just with understanding what's happening and finding useful terminology to discuss it.
And understanding the history and definition of "fascism" allows one to discredit antifa as a gaggle of childish armchair neo-Marxists, whether or not any of them are aware of any political ideology.
And if I properly use a term that is misused and abused by the left, or even replace it with an original stipulative definition (like "conspiracy theorist" for one example) how does this "validate the progressive moral framework"?
These are serious questions if you have the time and inclination to reply.
Fascism can only be understood in the context of interwar Italy. It was a direct reaction to the Biennio Rosso, when Italian communists seized factories and territory with machine guns. Various groups, mostly comprised of middle class college students, clashed with the reds and recreated the horrors of WW1 in the streets of Italy. Mussolini was the leader of one such group. He and some friends marched to the King to declare that they could end the violence if they were put in charge, so the King gave them control of the government.
Fascism is a form of managerialism with the explicit goal of opposing communists and advancing the interests of the Italian people. While not antiracist in any form, it is relatively race neutral, which was a major point of disagreement with their German ally. In order to prevent communists gaining control, the fascists set about securing every node of power before the reds could. It is explicitly hierarchical, corporatist and nationalist. Corporatism isn't to be confused with modern corporations, but rather is about organizing people into power blocks according to their societal role, then balancing the interests of those groups with the interests of the nation. This was all permeated with a very particular Catholic flavor.
For better reading on the topic check out Paul Gottfried's Fascism: The Career of a Concept, or if you are into YouTube videos Mr Patriarch has a series on it that leans heavily on Gottfried's work.
It’s not quite “dwarf tossing”, but she is stunted…
“Retard tossing” doesn’t quite have the same ring to it, unfortunately…
In all seriousness, though, she is just… Very odd. “Special needs idiot savant” becomes climate messiah communist was not on my bingo card, five years ago, I must say…
This is something a lot of people haven't figured out yet. Communism to most people is just gynocentrism. Women want to emasculate and enslave men to the benefit of women. That is what communism is to most people.
This was always the goal of the greens, I'm surprised she actually said the quiet part out loud.
EVERY. SINGLE. Left. wing. movement. is just communism.
Trannies/faggots? communism.
Chimpout race theory? communism
Feminism? communism.
Global warming? communism.
Vegans? communism.
Unions? communism.
Jews stirring the pot? communism.
Collectivists/authoritarians? communism.
"teh scientific consensoos?" communism.
The communists work very hard, day and night, to cultivate every single loser and outcast within the dominant capitalist system, and then weaponize them to try to undermine and overthrow the dominant capitalist system in order to open the road for communism.
Gotta love the mostly Jewish men and women who came up with Communism. Again, works great if you have a group of 100 villagers all working together to survive. At such a scale it's just Globohomo authoritarianism.
The hard part: how to get the people who arent on top of natural heirarchies to just do their best instead of bitching about everything?
That's actually quite easy: Pay them a reasonable amount for what their non-top-tier existence is worth, and offer incentives and rewards of reduced work or responsibility for good performance.
Problem is, no one would ever adapt this system. The capitalists say "no, they must be motivated by money, not comfort!", the communists say "no, they must work to death in the fields, no matter their prior occupation!", and the fake-communists say "no, that, like, totally throws off my vibes, you know, like, you know?".
Capitalism already adopted this exact system. The problem is that "reasonable amount" is never good enough. People always want more. Every person, no matter how worthless, thinks they deserve to be King. No system is ever good enough for everyone.
Capitalism is the best system, the problem is that most people are worthless so you can entice them to do what's against society's interest by bribing them with offering more than they are worth. That's what communists do.
And this problem is exacerbated when you've got leftists whispering, "see that guy over there with all that nice stuff? He stole it from you." in everybody's ears.
That's how you destabilize a system for sure.
But i'm quite certain that the gov did steal my stuff, they give me a receipt and all, haha
In the old days those guys were disemboweled in the public square as the evenings entertainment, or maybe just forced to drink hemlock like good old Socrates.
Nowadays I don't know what the solution is. You can't stop agitation through legal means, yet they use subverted institutions to cause harm to anyone who disagrees with them harm through social and economic violence.
Or in other words, a core flaw of capitalism is that subverting the system is not only allowable within the system, but simple to do.
Who says the useless eaters get a choice in the matter?
It's true. Only now it's identity communism, another word for neo-Marxism, with identity on the intersectional scale of "oppression" replacing the workers, the Proletariat.
It's funny when they all inevitably degenerate into the pet issue they actually wanted to push all along. Years ago every left protest movement would turn into a Free Palestine thing, now 100% of them exist to push gender shit.
Tell that to the CCP, which has done the most to stamp out that cult's existence.
Mao famously said "Women hold up half the sky". Abortion and divorce are common and easy.
Basically women don't end up in top CCP leadership roles, but apart from that women get everything the westoid feminists want.
Kek.
No, by locking them up and banning their communities.
The Chinks (I think) are still old-school Marxists, not on board with the Gramsci/Adorno/Marcuse identity program as far as I know, which makes them an anachronism.
When did we moved from global warming to climate change to climate justice. What is climate justice, justice for whom exactly?
According to the mentally ill young lady in order to fix the climate we also need to atone for imperialism and colonialism and racism. This is done, as everyone guessed, by shifting to communism.
The scientific models were so bad that they had to switch from “warming” to “change”
Now they can blame any weather event on “lack of communism”
But only in the West. Strangely nobody ever complains about China having 20x the coal fired power plants of the second largest country. I wonder why?
When did we move from gay tolerance, to gay marriage, to groomed kids. Exact same timeframe, exact same agenda.
"X justice" and "X equity" are just dog whistles for communism.
It doesn't snow enough in north Africa or something
Yawn, same old shit from the left as always, just using the environment as a skinsuit. Maybe we should copy one of their great leaders Stalin and put them all on an island and let them eat each other, Literally
Ah, yes. Let us overthrow Capitalism for the sake of the environment. I'm sure the commies will treat it better. After all, they would never do things like ignite a natural gas field that has been burning for half a century, or have cities with air pollution so bad it is literally off the scale that Western countries use, or called claims of nearly undrinkable tap water right-wing propaganda and fear mongering.
No, all commie societies must be beautiful places of natural wonder and peace, because that's what Twitter tells me.
Remember East Germany?
Remember Chernobyl? Remember the Aral Sea..? There’s like, innumerable examples…
East Germany was relatively tame, compared to a lot of what the USSR did…
Man, I want to set aside a weekend to just research and list out a comprehensive collection of commies fucking up the environment.
No, they already did that.
Scratch an environmentalist, and a commie bleeds. Environmentalism has always been just another tentacle of Marx.
That's why I like the term watermelons for them - can't remember where I first heard it, but it fits. Green on the outside and red on the inside.
And the regressive finally plays her cards on the table, revealing what we all knew all along.
So brave👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Considering the current capitalist system, where the people own of the means of production under a dictatorship of proletarianized elites, has brought us sodomy, feminism, replacement migration, and ritual child sacrifice, overthrowing it top to bottom sounds great.
None of that has anything to do with a cApitALiSt sYsTEm.
Unrestrained capital will seek to expand mass and scale through homogenizing aggregate demand to the lowest common denominator by promoting and satisfying cosmopolitan hedonism. This creates the same leveling effect that is the stated goal of communists: the abolition of global human differentiation. Capitalism is a tool that must be forced to submit to the needs of the nation instead of allowing nations to be enslaved by the needs of capital.
We're in the mess we're in because state regulatory agencies stifle competition. Massive corporations can write off million dollar fines as an itemized expense, upstarts cannot. Many of those massive corporations got so massive because of state subsidies. We need less state/business interaction, not more.
Ignoring the reliance on the silly liberal myth that politics can be separate from economics, that would stop the drive towards globohomo how exactly? The logical conclusion of abolition of regulation is the abolition of borders, reducing the world to mere economic zones with no regard for peoples.
And planned economies are better? Gobohomo has taken root because those state regulatory agencies were co-opted by the globohomos to consolidate their market control.
You're still stuck in the false dichotomy of capitalism versus communism. Markets regulated in the interests of the nation is a thing. For a practical example check out Princes of Yen, the book and the movie. The short version is that the Zaibatsus were put back in charge of Japan's economy post war. The national bank was very succesful directing investments into capex through credit controls, until globohomo sabatuers purposefully created and popped a bubble in order to restructure the market for western investors.
You've just described why markets cannot separate from politics, since power naturally consolidates. Either commercial enterprises submit to the government or they will become the government. The lolbertarian vision is no less disconnected from reality than the communist's and leads to the same end in practice due to Deleuzian territorialization.
I don't believe regulators who 'operate in national interest' will remain in the national interest. Like you said, power consolidates, and an agency that regulates economics is a very powerful entity. Wouldn't take long until it's co-opted.
You always provide excellent reading suggestions. Thanks.
Damn straight. We are seeing the "needs of capital" contributing to the transformation of the republic into a fascist bureaucratic state. The fact that our elections are becoming compromised is part of the overall campaign to place even more power in the hands of corporations in cooperation with the USG, with the big tech outfits in the vanguard, naturally.
Escape the hauntologies of the 20th century. There are no fascists nor communists nor even liberals around. They are all functionally dead ideologies that were peculiar to an era. Using fascist for bad stuff is particularly egregious as it validates the progressive moral framework. You cannot win by positioning yourself as the real antifa.
Well, what would you call the current relationship between the USG and corporations, particularly Big Tech?
I'm not interested in competing with antifa, just with understanding what's happening and finding useful terminology to discuss it.
And understanding the history and definition of "fascism" allows one to discredit antifa as a gaggle of childish armchair neo-Marxists, whether or not any of them are aware of any political ideology.
And if I properly use a term that is misused and abused by the left, or even replace it with an original stipulative definition (like "conspiracy theorist" for one example) how does this "validate the progressive moral framework"?
These are serious questions if you have the time and inclination to reply.
Fascism can only be understood in the context of interwar Italy. It was a direct reaction to the Biennio Rosso, when Italian communists seized factories and territory with machine guns. Various groups, mostly comprised of middle class college students, clashed with the reds and recreated the horrors of WW1 in the streets of Italy. Mussolini was the leader of one such group. He and some friends marched to the King to declare that they could end the violence if they were put in charge, so the King gave them control of the government.
Fascism is a form of managerialism with the explicit goal of opposing communists and advancing the interests of the Italian people. While not antiracist in any form, it is relatively race neutral, which was a major point of disagreement with their German ally. In order to prevent communists gaining control, the fascists set about securing every node of power before the reds could. It is explicitly hierarchical, corporatist and nationalist. Corporatism isn't to be confused with modern corporations, but rather is about organizing people into power blocks according to their societal role, then balancing the interests of those groups with the interests of the nation. This was all permeated with a very particular Catholic flavor.
For better reading on the topic check out Paul Gottfried's Fascism: The Career of a Concept, or if you are into YouTube videos Mr Patriarch has a series on it that leans heavily on Gottfried's work.
So Fascism was a historically contingent movement that ceased to exist with the execution of Mussolini and the destruction of Fascist Italy in WW II.
I can get along with that, but what to do with all the contemporary palaver about "Fascism"? It's meaningless.
So will she be giving up her modern tech and money?
And I suggest that the fetal alcohol angry potato can shut up as usual.
So, the hog is finally out of the tunnel.
A pox on anyone who takes this little creep seriously.
I call for throwing Greta. Overthrow even.
It’s not quite “dwarf tossing”, but she is stunted…
“Retard tossing” doesn’t quite have the same ring to it, unfortunately…
In all seriousness, though, she is just… Very odd. “Special needs idiot savant” becomes climate messiah communist was not on my bingo card, five years ago, I must say…
or you could fuck off and die
Time to overthrow Greta.
It's amazing how many ways they will dress up their feminist goals.
Her "Systems of patriarchy" rant needs reposting.
This is something a lot of people haven't figured out yet. Communism to most people is just gynocentrism. Women want to emasculate and enslave men to the benefit of women. That is what communism is to most people.
https://archive.ph/vQjIy
https://communities.win/c/feminism/p/15K6zZKOxV/green-on-the-outside-pink-on-the/c
I found it all.