America's last hope was Ron Paul
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I supported him. I used to try to explain the Fed and fiat currency to people and their eyes would glaze over
You can’t fix conditioned apathy
I wonder if they'll listen now under the current economic conditions. Not holding my breath, though.
let me stop you right there, the answer is no.
I've gotten turned on real quick to ending the Fed.
There was a rare time where he allied with some other rep to get the Fed audited. Any candidate that persistently pushes to audit the Fed is my guy.
Same here
I believe that was Thomas Massie. Who is pretty based
Fiat money is true money, gold money is just is barter. The real problem is in fractional reserve system.
Well I agree about fractional reserve, but if you can't trust the government to manage the money supply, you'll get inflation and them pushing the business cycle anyways.
But you think printing money out of thin air is good? Granted it’s backed by the faith in the dollar or whatever currency.
Well I get the same response when I explain fractional reserve banking. Glazed eyes
Yup. Virtually everything is taxed, and taxed more than once by the time it ends up in the consumer's hand.
It's one of the biggest scams in history, but people just accept it.
I assure you, some of us have hated it since our first part time job and we saw what they were taking from us.
It's criminal in my opinion. They wonder why the economy is stagnant, well how about taxing money when it's used and not when it's earned. If you tax it when it's earned you didn't contribute anything to the economy by spending it. Now you have less money so you spend less and are more thrifty. It's a self fulfilling prophecy
That's why the government doesn't want you to save. They want you to spend so its taxes, then the next guy spends it so it is taxed again until that dollar is basically taxed out of existence.
The money is issued at the top and sucked out at the bottom. And then people blame "capitalism" for wealth inequality. If you look at the system as a whole, taxes are an essential way of making sure that regular people don't save anything. If they did, they might not work for 45+ years, and that would not be so good for "the economy"
The part I find funny is unemployment "insurance" from the government is taxed and other "income" you get from it.
So basically, the government taxes you on something it took from other people so it can take that money from you AGAIN. It's fucking insane.
And your already paid for property as well. Even if you live off your own land and generate no income, you still owe the government.
Pay your existence tax.
1920 was worse. That was the year every avenue for peacefully fixing these mistakes was closed down, and either collapse or violent revolution became inevitable.
19th amendment?
bingo
Actually Lincoln started the original income tax.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/federal-income-tax-1913
The 16th amendment just solidified government right to take your income, which was previously ruled unconstitutional…
The way I see it is the follower sheep retards who used to be largely religious have moved on from one cult to the next. The next being Atheism with a capital A.
Retards will be retards.
Atheism is basically just Anti-Christianity, yes. You don't hear from real atheists because they don't wear it on their shoulder.
Wait, so they believed in like 90% of the stuff Ron Paul believed in, but then at the 10% they differed they didn't want to help him?
That's fucking retarded. The economy is the fucking economy. idgaf about what you think about if you think the Fed should be ended and taxes be cut. We can argue over that shit later.
Ron Paul was an actual libertarian who wanted to dismantle the federal dept. of education, so that 10% should not have mattered. But we see politicians as personalities to identify with, instead of as constitutionally restricted administrators. Stakeless democracy is such a dysfunctional, two-faced form of government.
Most people have a pet government department that they think they can't live without. This is a real pitfall for honest libertarians. Remember, W Bush was elected to muck with education from the top. Something tells me Republicans didn't want to abolish Education back then. As is often observed, if you talk about doing anything with Social Security, even fixing it, old-NPCs vote against you. Plenty of Republicans at least used to balk at the idea of making any cuts to Defense, as if foreign entanglements are as American as Bud light.
I was a kid, so all I remember was left-leaning teachers ragging on Bush, Iraq War, and NCLB + standardized testing, years later piecing together that they ignored how NCLB was very bipartisan. Right now, I'm mad having just learned that it had a limited provision for vouchers that was gutted out of the bill. Regressives never want to be like Europe when it's inconvenient to partisan orthodoxy.
Social security reform was one of the few authentic things a recent president has attempted, and the NPCs of both parties just gulped the propaganda down. Even George Carlin, who can be characteristically contrarian, just repeated the cliches in his otherwise great segment about the big club. I get the indirect point about Wall St. power brokers not giving a shit about us, but not even allowing younger Americans to take some of their own money out of the Social Security Trust is so parasitically two-faced.
I thought there wasn't any money in SS, which is why young Americans can't take any out. It was created as a pay-as-you-go system because FDR was a socialist conman. There's no investment involved; it's just transfer payments from young to old. Was/is my understanding. I understand there may have been some surplus saved up when boomers were young which is probably now disappearing.
When has he ever commented on evolution?
Kill the lawyers all you want, but it's the economists who really need to be put up against the wall. With extreme prejudice.
Lawyers at least generate value for their clients.
Economists are wrong 75% of the time, but they just keep talking.
Economists play their part in masking the transfer of wealth from the productive to the parasitic.
I love defense attorneys, of various stripes. Most people will eventually need one for something. I disapprove of the way that lawyers collectively run their profession -- of the way they write the law, of their interpretation of justice, of their gatekeeping. But that could be said of most professions that are sufficiently organized. There is no freakin' guild of computer programmers, which is more to my liking.
Ambulance chasers and their slightly more sophisticated brethren the malpractice attorney can suck a dick. And of course "civil rights" attorneys and patent troll enablers.
And when they're right, it's not prophecy, it's programming.
Fuck you too
Dixie was America's last hope.
America's last hope is the American people, which is why the people who are trying to destroy this nation are importing millions of people who do not have the same philosophical foundations.
https://nitter.net/RonPaul/status/1517912858247544832
As long as there is an income tax and a property tax, we own nothing.
We are just rentors from the state.
Paul wasn't our last hope. Being right doesn't make him last.
There is another
SkywalkerPaul.He doesn't seem to have the same fire in his belly with regards to the IRS and central bank, though.
So, yeah. Sad.
So just like Star Wars. Each iteration worse than the previous.
Bring back Vader.
87,000 additional IRS agents, almost doubling them. 80 billion dollars more WE will pay for them to come after us. There is no sane justification for them even adding 20k.
This is to prepare for what they have in store for us, and our reaction when we start revolting by not paying taxes as they bury us in increased taxation from multiple angles every year.
We haven't seen anything yet. The NWO is in full control in D.C. and no election of import will ever matter again.
You young naive dummies here that think they'll all be voted out and the ship will be righted have a hell of a lot of learning coming your way.
Ron Paul is a peace time leader, dont think he is a war time leader. He is too kind of a man.
income tax and the federal reserve are the legacy of a known racist. why are the democrats not working tirelessly to destroy these institutions?
You need inflation and fiat currency otherwise people horde currency and the economy stagnates.
Every economy that went fiat experienced a huge amount of growth because of access to debt and a desire to invest superceded the desire to horde money - why spend money when money itself grows in value?
This is the one thing all the gold standard/crypto enthusiasts do not consider when they see the plights of inflation and recommend their system instead.
And we need a CBDC that automatically makes your money expire after a set period of time. Use it or lose it! GDP IS KING!!!
Ron Paul is controlled opposition.
Donald Trump is controlled opposition.
Better than helping pass unconstitutional legislation, but that's more normal, and thus less vivid and less rhetorically blameable. Let's go suck Lincoln's and FDR's cocks because they were so active in pushing and passing legislation.