It isn't that the Left, or indeed "everyone", projects. It's that everyone has lenses and biases with which they view the world.
I see some saucy Misty art (or whatever underage v& is popular these days) and shrug. Fictional. The only real tragedy is that The Pokemon Company isn't being paid for such mass use of their intellectual property.
Someone else sees it, and says "this image makes people want to harm real-world children". Well, the only people that they could know the thoughts of is themself. It's certainly not supported by data, which actually shows the opposite fun fact, it's a purely emotional argument, with emotions generating from within the self.
Always watch for people who define a horrible negative trait, and then include themselves (overtly or subtly) in the overarching category they're describing.
The opposite political side showcase of this is the gay pastors. The ones going "God says gays gonna go to hell, take it up with Him, I don't make the laws." appeal to authority or data, not emotion or self. Meanwhile, the ones going "those gays seduce good men away from the righteous path with their sexual ways, did I mention that pastors are good men on righteous paths?"... Probably gonna be found in a gay bar at some point, arguing from an emotive and personal lens stance.
That the biggest voices in shutting down art they don't like "to protect the children" are the same biggest voices advocating for "drag queen show you dick to kids dance hour" tells me everything about the righteousness of their cause.
They're just moving this crap around. They reduce the number of older men trying to sleep with underage girls, and replace it with older trying to convince underage kids to amputate their genitals.
It's like a power vacuum or something, you get rid of one group and a new even worse moves into their previous spot.
The hypersensitivity towards racism made me unironically racist. Once I saw them screeching about situations that were not racist, I became aware of how massively coddled minorities were and the massive effort to suppress information about their bad habits. Even the show COPS purposefully selected videos to show white criminals far more often than their representation in crime.
It isn't that the Left, or indeed "everyone", projects.
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Someone else sees it, and says "this image makes people want to harm real-world children". Well, the only people that they could know the thoughts of is themself.
Purely emotional arguments could also come from having kids. I don't have any children so this is all academic for me. If I did then my risk calculation might change. Not saying I'd be correct, but my personal lens would be shaped by the very natural and important instinct to protect children.
Except people who engage in deviant sexual behavior are highly likely to commit sex crimes. This isn't some secret and is such a strange fucking Hill to die on. It's not just people saying don't censor it you're actively opposed to criticism of loli and the obviously pedophilic dudes into it
Kids are probably safer at anime conventions than schools at the moment, at least they can tell fact from fiction. And I don't mean that in the obvious 'ones a drawing, the other is a person with sentience ' context, I mean these people cannot accept the reality that they have a horrific sickness in their minds so create a self created illusion that they aren't the sick ones, society is the one doing this and if they act on it, it's society's fault for not stopping them by removing these temptations.
There will be as that's the most popular media and the left desperately want to infiltrate it, simple gatekeeping identifies them
Ask them what their favourite anime is pre 2014, if they don't have an answer they are trying to stay trendy, if they say Boku no pico unironically, burn the heretic
“The ones objecting to depictions of children getting fucked are the real pedos!”
What a convenient state of affairs for pedos…
In reality, 99% of people will react to loli porn with visceral disgust. Most of them will probably want it banned from whatever social media platforms they use. Are 99% of people secretly pedos?
All this thread proves is that even pedos have the good sense to aggressively deny that they are pedos.
yeah, this argument is nigh retarded and i have ridiculous concerns about kia2 and its future health if posts like "kid porn is ok because it was drawn and not filmed" are actually celebrated.
but i also think all porn is abuse on the viewer no matter how it was made, so i probably already give a lot of reprobates here strokes with my unusual counter cultural opinions...
The point, numbnuts, is that even the "6 year old" is not a 6 year old, it's just a drawing. There is no child, no kid, there at all.
You can draw cartoons of hundreds of babies being decapitated, that doesn't make you a baby murderer. Because cartoons are not babies. Cartoons are not children. Cartoons cannot be victims.
"i am completely A-okay and might even encourage the 'free speech' that is depicting people having sex with the remains of decapitated babies, but you're the psychopath for disagreeing!"
i could bash your brains in, feed what comes out to stray dogs and sleep my deepest sleep that same night
I'm pretty sure that's why he called you a psychopath. We're talking about drawings bro. I'd punch anyone who tried to show me a picture like that, but that's about it.
dude is directly advocating for pedophilia and is such a despicable coward he cannot admit it even in times where most powers in the world want to help him do it. i have no need for these people on God's green Earth and you don't either - i've just seen the damage they have done more than you and am a little more adamant about that opinion.
“The ones objecting to depictions of children getting fucked are the real pedos!”
What a convenient state of affairs for pedos…
So, with this massive trove of examples in front of you, showing this very thing occurring again and again, just like the classic 'anti-gay preacher turns out to be closeted homosexual', you choose to simply handwave it away, because, in your mind, it's simply too 'convenient?'
You talk about 'depictions of children getting fucked', but that's not what they spend the majority of their time complaining about. When they say 'lolicon', they mean everything from Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, to Konosuba.
I think what really drives their hatred of it is that they see people out there enjoying these milquetoast depictions of cutesy-sexy cartoon girls, and it fucking grinds their gears that all these people are just sitting there, openly enjoying something they have to keep secret, because they like the real thing.
Even when it comes to the literally pornographic lolicon hentai, we get this;
He's sitting there being an open pedophile, complaining that someone who defends cartoon loli gets all horrified when they see images of actual, real child abuse. He just can't wrap his twisted fuck head around the difference. It literally doesn't process in his deepfried pedo brain. He thinks they're a 'coward' for being disgusted by the real thing.
So every single person, which by the way is vast majority of people, who don't like loli shit is secretly a pedophile because people who are clearly sex pests to begin with try and use it to distract from their own deeds?
That doesn't really track. Maybe you've spent too much time on the internet, but you know that loli shit isn't really popular with most people right?
Maybe you've spent too much time on the internet, but you know that loli shit isn't really popular with most people right?
Maybe you've spent too much time on the internet, but you know that most people couldn't give a shit about drawings of people who don't exist?
I live in a country where cartoon loli porn is actually considered, against all logic, to be literal CP that will send you to jail and onto the sex offender's register for a picture of Misty getting eaten out by Lickitung. Most people in the country have no idea such an image would be illegal, because why would it be? ...But it is, despite the fact that you can just go straight onto twitter and see it right there, you can technically go to prison for it and have your life ruined and your family ripped apart over something that doesn't even exist and never even happened.
This. Is. Insane.
It is nothing less than expanding human rights to cartoon characters.
Holy fuck dude, you're delusional. Just because something isn't real doesn't mean the depiction of said thing doesn't disgust people. If you really think that an image of a pokemon fucking a human doesn't disgust most normal people you're insane.
When it comes to fiction, 'ew, gross' is subjective, and not an argument.
but whether or not I would feel guilty flaying those people's faces off with my own fingernails.
I would feel no guilt about mechanized nuclear holocaust of 99% of human life on earth if I knew guaranteed free speech absolutism was on the other side of it. What's your point?
I live in a country where cartoon loli porn is actually considered, against all logic, to be literal CP that will send you to jail and onto the sex offender's register for a picture of Misty getting eaten out by Lickitung. Most people in the country have no idea such an image would be illegal, because why would it be?
Possibly most people in the country could not conceive that someone would be sick enough to draw something like that?
You're arguing that there is no reason to criminalize this, but why should it exist in the first place? What good does it serve, other than gratifying the fantasy of a person who can't cope with living in reality, and then sending them further down the hole?
You are using free speech as a shield, but free speech is a responsibility as well. I am allowed to call someone a filthy nigger-kike, but is that right? Is it good?
What is a good reason for someone to make porn, period, let alone porn depicting children in lewd acts with fantasy animals?
Why should a government be able to tell you what shape you you can drag a pen around in? What shape you can piss on the floor in?
What good does it serve, other than gratifying the fantasy of a person who can't cope with living in reality, and then sending them further down the hole?
Total speculation. Playing violent videogames doesn't make people kill, why would stylized cartoons that barely look like actual children in the first place (note it's always anime style stuff, not realist western art) make people molest kids?
I've seen zero evidence to suggest anime is a gateway to child molestation.
You are using free speech as a shield, but free speech is a responsibility as well. I am allowed to call someone a filthy nigger-kike, but is that right? Is it good?
I'd fight a war to be allowed to call someone a nigger-kike.
What is a good reason for someone to make porn, period, let alone porn depicting children in lewd acts with fantasy animals?
Nothing less than the sovereignty of their own mind and the freedom to be left the fuck alone by the vile apparatus of the state. I draw no distinction between being told people cannot draw bart simpson fucking edna krabapple, and being told I cannot draw the prophet mohammed. I have no interest in either such thing - well, maybe mohammed - but just knowing that there's someone out there who thinks they have the fucking right to tell me I can't make a specific shape on a page fills with with unbridled fucking hatred. The fucking AUDACITY to believe you can control my mind!
If you told the average person that you like looking at loli and explained it to them they'd look at you in disgust at best, punch you in the face normally and shoot you at worst
You aren't killing anyone, you edgy faggot. There are plenty of rapists out there -- why don't you come back to brag once you've been of actual use to society?
Oh, of course you won't; just like the retards from ConPro that once mass-spammed this forum while jacking each other off and accusing everyone who didn't give a damn about fictional drawings - because said accused are not retarded and can separate fiction from reality - of being pedophiles.
But if you are so brave, you can start anytime with cleansing Hollywood and report your heroism. Nobody here is stopping you, cock sucker.
We both know what I mean when I say loli dude. It's drawings specifically made to resemble the characteristics of children
Yeah I'm terminally online and not the neckbeard that thinks the average person will tolerate an open pedo. And thinks that any state allows a mag dump for simple assault lmao. Legal illiteracy and pedophilia go hand in hand.
We both know what I mean when I say loli dude. It's drawings specifically made to resemble the characteristics of children
Oh hoho, do we? It's that simple, is it?
You must share with us your expertise of defining precisely where loli begins and ends. There will surely be no pitfalls in your theorem! Show me your water-tight definition of loli. I need a laugh.
And thinks that any state allows a mag dump for simple assault lmao.
You don't fire a gun at anyone you don't intend to kill. A soon as you've pulled the trigger once, you've decided death is an acceptable, or desirable outcome.
One bullet is the same as same as 15 - though most (but not all!) people are on the ground by the time the third one hits. There's no legal distinction between shooting someone once and shooting them 15 times - about 3 seconds of sustained fire.
Realistically, nobody who isn't trained to do so will actually dump a whole mag of that size unless the target is still standing (likely as a result of missing). But six? Easily. And that's a mag dump in revolver terms. Cops are trained, and they are trained to mag dump, which they do, because why the hell wouldn't you?
The US does not have an above average ratio of perverts. It's just that the US is still mostly a healthy society and so it actually gets talked about, unlike everywhere else in the world, all of the "morally upright traditional societies" where noncery is allowed to happen and gets swept under the rug as a matter of course.
That's one thing. The other is that English is the today's Lingua Franca, and the United States are the biggest and more influential English-speaking country. So news from the US gets shared all over the world, while nobody except the Czechs will ever be aware of someone like Bohumil Kulínský, because while that affair was in the news in the Czech Republic for a really long time, it just wasn't all that interesting interesting to anyone else, it was just another pedo.
It isn't that the Left, or indeed "everyone", projects. It's that everyone has lenses and biases with which they view the world.
I see some saucy Misty art (or whatever underage v& is popular these days) and shrug. Fictional. The only real tragedy is that The Pokemon Company isn't being paid for such mass use of their intellectual property.
Someone else sees it, and says "this image makes people want to harm real-world children". Well, the only people that they could know the thoughts of is themself. It's certainly not supported by data, which actually shows the opposite fun fact, it's a purely emotional argument, with emotions generating from within the self.
Always watch for people who define a horrible negative trait, and then include themselves (overtly or subtly) in the overarching category they're describing.
The opposite political side showcase of this is the gay pastors. The ones going "God says gays gonna go to hell, take it up with Him, I don't make the laws." appeal to authority or data, not emotion or self. Meanwhile, the ones going "those gays seduce good men away from the righteous path with their sexual ways, did I mention that pastors are good men on righteous paths?"... Probably gonna be found in a gay bar at some point, arguing from an emotive and personal lens stance.
That the biggest voices in shutting down art they don't like "to protect the children" are the same biggest voices advocating for "drag queen show you dick to kids dance hour" tells me everything about the righteousness of their cause.
They're just moving this crap around. They reduce the number of older men trying to sleep with underage girls, and replace it with older trying to convince underage kids to amputate their genitals.
It's like a power vacuum or something, you get rid of one group and a new even worse moves into their previous spot.
Lol bullshit
Found the nonce.
Yeah, I don't see drag queens (or reddit mods) trying to get any porn banned. It's good for you, don'tcha know?
They see racism everywhere for the same reason.
The hypersensitivity towards racism made me unironically racist. Once I saw them screeching about situations that were not racist, I became aware of how massively coddled minorities were and the massive effort to suppress information about their bad habits. Even the show COPS purposefully selected videos to show white criminals far more often than their representation in crime.
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That's literally what projecting is.
Purely emotional arguments could also come from having kids. I don't have any children so this is all academic for me. If I did then my risk calculation might change. Not saying I'd be correct, but my personal lens would be shaped by the very natural and important instinct to protect children.
Except people who engage in deviant sexual behavior are highly likely to commit sex crimes. This isn't some secret and is such a strange fucking Hill to die on. It's not just people saying don't censor it you're actively opposed to criticism of loli and the obviously pedophilic dudes into it
But muh datas :(
Kids are probably safer at anime conventions than schools at the moment, at least they can tell fact from fiction. And I don't mean that in the obvious 'ones a drawing, the other is a person with sentience ' context, I mean these people cannot accept the reality that they have a horrific sickness in their minds so create a self created illusion that they aren't the sick ones, society is the one doing this and if they act on it, it's society's fault for not stopping them by removing these temptations.
There will be as that's the most popular media and the left desperately want to infiltrate it, simple gatekeeping identifies them
Ask them what their favourite anime is pre 2014, if they don't have an answer they are trying to stay trendy, if they say Boku no pico unironically, burn the heretic
“The ones objecting to depictions of children getting fucked are the real pedos!”
What a convenient state of affairs for pedos…
In reality, 99% of people will react to loli porn with visceral disgust. Most of them will probably want it banned from whatever social media platforms they use. Are 99% of people secretly pedos?
All this thread proves is that even pedos have the good sense to aggressively deny that they are pedos.
arachnophobic, huh?
you must secretly want to fuck spiders
yeah, this argument is nigh retarded and i have ridiculous concerns about kia2 and its future health if posts like "kid porn is ok because it was drawn and not filmed" are actually celebrated.
but i also think all porn is abuse on the viewer no matter how it was made, so i probably already give a lot of reprobates here strokes with my unusual counter cultural opinions...
It can't be "kid porn" when there are no kids involved you fucking goon
The point, numbnuts, is that even the "6 year old" is not a 6 year old, it's just a drawing. There is no child, no kid, there at all.
You can draw cartoons of hundreds of babies being decapitated, that doesn't make you a baby murderer. Because cartoons are not babies. Cartoons are not children. Cartoons cannot be victims.
You're straight-up psychopathic. And/or deeply retarded.
"i am completely A-okay and might even encourage the 'free speech' that is depicting people having sex with the remains of decapitated babies, but you're the psychopath for disagreeing!"
I'm pretty sure that's why he called you a psychopath. We're talking about drawings bro. I'd punch anyone who tried to show me a picture like that, but that's about it.
dude is directly advocating for pedophilia and is such a despicable coward he cannot admit it even in times where most powers in the world want to help him do it. i have no need for these people on God's green Earth and you don't either - i've just seen the damage they have done more than you and am a little more adamant about that opinion.
Too many lolbertarians have gotten in
So, with this massive trove of examples in front of you, showing this very thing occurring again and again, just like the classic 'anti-gay preacher turns out to be closeted homosexual', you choose to simply handwave it away, because, in your mind, it's simply too 'convenient?'
You talk about 'depictions of children getting fucked', but that's not what they spend the majority of their time complaining about. When they say 'lolicon', they mean everything from Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, to Konosuba.
I think what really drives their hatred of it is that they see people out there enjoying these milquetoast depictions of cutesy-sexy cartoon girls, and it fucking grinds their gears that all these people are just sitting there, openly enjoying something they have to keep secret, because they like the real thing.
Even when it comes to the literally pornographic lolicon hentai, we get this;
Look at this dude.
He's sitting there being an open pedophile, complaining that someone who defends cartoon loli gets all horrified when they see images of actual, real child abuse. He just can't wrap his twisted fuck head around the difference. It literally doesn't process in his deepfried pedo brain. He thinks they're a 'coward' for being disgusted by the real thing.
Reminds me of this https://ibb.co/BjRvXzM
I think there's an element of political tribalism at play here, too.
They know all of the actual kiddy diddlers vote left.
So every single person, which by the way is vast majority of people, who don't like loli shit is secretly a pedophile because people who are clearly sex pests to begin with try and use it to distract from their own deeds?
That doesn't really track. Maybe you've spent too much time on the internet, but you know that loli shit isn't really popular with most people right?
Maybe you've spent too much time on the internet, but you know that most people couldn't give a shit about drawings of people who don't exist?
I live in a country where cartoon loli porn is actually considered, against all logic, to be literal CP that will send you to jail and onto the sex offender's register for a picture of Misty getting eaten out by Lickitung. Most people in the country have no idea such an image would be illegal, because why would it be? ...But it is, despite the fact that you can just go straight onto twitter and see it right there, you can technically go to prison for it and have your life ruined and your family ripped apart over something that doesn't even exist and never even happened.
This. Is. Insane.
It is nothing less than expanding human rights to cartoon characters.
You're fucking retarded if you think normal people are cool with pokemon porn. Most people don't want to look at animals fucking humans.
Pokemon aren't animals and not even misty is human. She's a cartoon.
Holy fuck dude, you're delusional. Just because something isn't real doesn't mean the depiction of said thing doesn't disgust people. If you really think that an image of a pokemon fucking a human doesn't disgust most normal people you're insane.
I care not whether normal people are disgusted by a cartoon. Were I able, I would slaughter them all for my right to draw it, if I wished to do so.
Might makes right.
If you can't tolerate the existence of a drawing you don't like, die.
Getting back to this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNqtfFXq00k&t=0s
6.35 million views.
The core argument is freedom of speech.
When it comes to fiction, 'ew, gross' is subjective, and not an argument.
I would feel no guilt about mechanized nuclear holocaust of 99% of human life on earth if I knew guaranteed free speech absolutism was on the other side of it. What's your point?
Possibly most people in the country could not conceive that someone would be sick enough to draw something like that?
You're arguing that there is no reason to criminalize this, but why should it exist in the first place? What good does it serve, other than gratifying the fantasy of a person who can't cope with living in reality, and then sending them further down the hole?
You are using free speech as a shield, but free speech is a responsibility as well. I am allowed to call someone a filthy nigger-kike, but is that right? Is it good?
What is a good reason for someone to make porn, period, let alone porn depicting children in lewd acts with fantasy animals?
Why should a government be able to tell you what shape you you can drag a pen around in? What shape you can piss on the floor in?
Total speculation. Playing violent videogames doesn't make people kill, why would stylized cartoons that barely look like actual children in the first place (note it's always anime style stuff, not realist western art) make people molest kids? I've seen zero evidence to suggest anime is a gateway to child molestation.
I'd fight a war to be allowed to call someone a nigger-kike.
Nothing less than the sovereignty of their own mind and the freedom to be left the fuck alone by the vile apparatus of the state. I draw no distinction between being told people cannot draw bart simpson fucking edna krabapple, and being told I cannot draw the prophet mohammed. I have no interest in either such thing - well, maybe mohammed - but just knowing that there's someone out there who thinks they have the fucking right to tell me I can't make a specific shape on a page fills with with unbridled fucking hatred. The fucking AUDACITY to believe you can control my mind!
If you told the average person that you like looking at loli and explained it to them they'd look at you in disgust at best, punch you in the face normally and shoot you at worst
Depends what you're calling 'loli', but for some of it yes, sure. So?
Tell me you're terminally online without telling me you're terminally online.
Punching someone in the face in most US states gives them the right to empty an entire magazine into your chest.
You aren't killing anyone, you edgy faggot. There are plenty of rapists out there -- why don't you come back to brag once you've been of actual use to society?
Oh, of course you won't; just like the retards from ConPro that once mass-spammed this forum while jacking each other off and accusing everyone who didn't give a damn about fictional drawings - because said accused are not retarded and can separate fiction from reality - of being pedophiles.
But if you are so brave, you can start anytime with cleansing Hollywood and report your heroism. Nobody here is stopping you, cock sucker.
We both know what I mean when I say loli dude. It's drawings specifically made to resemble the characteristics of children
Yeah I'm terminally online and not the neckbeard that thinks the average person will tolerate an open pedo. And thinks that any state allows a mag dump for simple assault lmao. Legal illiteracy and pedophilia go hand in hand.
Oh hoho, do we? It's that simple, is it?
You must share with us your expertise of defining precisely where loli begins and ends. There will surely be no pitfalls in your theorem! Show me your water-tight definition of loli. I need a laugh.
You don't fire a gun at anyone you don't intend to kill. A soon as you've pulled the trigger once, you've decided death is an acceptable, or desirable outcome.
One bullet is the same as same as 15 - though most (but not all!) people are on the ground by the time the third one hits. There's no legal distinction between shooting someone once and shooting them 15 times - about 3 seconds of sustained fire.
Realistically, nobody who isn't trained to do so will actually dump a whole mag of that size unless the target is still standing (likely as a result of missing). But six? Easily. And that's a mag dump in revolver terms. Cops are trained, and they are trained to mag dump, which they do, because why the hell wouldn't you?
For real, is this supposed to be an own of people who oppose loli?
'takes one to know one!'
Woooooow, this is a long one.
Also, so that's what happened to that scumbag Andrew Tate.
Edit: I'm getting downvoted! I must be pissing off the right people!
Over the target, baby, over the target!
Over the target, baby, over the target!
Over the target, baby, over the target!
Over the target, baby, over the target!
Over the target, baby, over the target!
Over the target, baby, over the target!
Over the target, baby, over the target!
That first degenerate brings back internet memories.
What kind of adolescent shit is this?
Every single person, both the pedos and the ones calling them out, are terminally online.
Touch some grass.
The US does not have an above average ratio of perverts. It's just that the US is still mostly a healthy society and so it actually gets talked about, unlike everywhere else in the world, all of the "morally upright traditional societies" where noncery is allowed to happen and gets swept under the rug as a matter of course.
The UK is still having grooming gangs get exposed. There's probably less children that haven't been molested than there are that have
That operated for decades without any issues, while the police knew about it.
That's one thing. The other is that English is the today's Lingua Franca, and the United States are the biggest and more influential English-speaking country. So news from the US gets shared all over the world, while nobody except the Czechs will ever be aware of someone like Bohumil Kulínský, because while that affair was in the news in the Czech Republic for a really long time, it just wasn't all that interesting interesting to anyone else, it was just another pedo.