Probably because Biden has too much at stake in Ukraine that would come out if he doesn't. Politicians are always willing to sacrifice you so that they don't have to suffer.
There's back and forth over biolabs vs. weapon programs in propaganda over the last several months. Older US fact sheets had 46 biological labs in Ukraine. I've seen the numbers of 36 and 38 thrown around-- probably a subset of those labs from the above that are still active.
My money's on dual-purpose tech. The sort that's: 1) plausibly deniable, 2) maximally useful militarily, and 3) legal-- under the most generous interpretation of the relevant laws.
I believe Ukraine's laws are significantly laxer than the U.S., so those labs are probably engaged in things that wouldnt fly in the U.S. Imagine something so vile that a country that murders infants for convivence and mutilates children for clout has to outsource.
Lmao imagine being this retarded. This is basically ensuring a big win for Russia no matter how the war goes. The longer the war goes the more the west will starve and collapse, which is bad for Putin how?
I’d be okay with the Ukraine being blown off the fucking map if it meant there was no global recession. The only one invested in the outcome there to that extent is the Biden family. Even if it was a country I like, I wouldn’t ruin the world to ‘save’ it.
I see you guys also still can't comprehend how Ukraine is (was) one of the few countries literally feeding the world. (America is another.)
The thread is about the remnants of the last year's harvests (20 million tonnes of grain that can't be exported), but this year the sowing was already extremely severely disrupted, and so will be the harvests. The next year will be worse.
They're also razing and pillaging agricultural infrastructure:
The West won't starve. It's about the already hungry countries that were literally kept alive by the Ukrainian grain, now being blocked by Russia's Black Sea Fleet.
Feelings even older than that. Victoria Nuland for ex., her grandfather came to the states from that part of the world after being brutalized in one of the Russian Empire's pograms. We have people in key positions in the federal government holding grudges against Russia they picked up from their parents and their grandparents before them.
They'll have us all suffer because grandpa and gamgam had to come here and damn whoever gets caught in the crossfire as they get their revenge
There is: 44 million people (only 144 million in Russia, it's not like America or China with hundreds of millions), black earth ("breadbasket of Europe"), coal, iron (and steel production), rare metals (nickel, copper, palladium, platinum), neon gas, arms and other industries, and transport routes of all kinds (including warm ports). Among other things.
Putin didn't invade anything, this was the collective will of all Russians.
Wherever the west goes poverty, degeneracy, corruption and misery follows. Maybe it is time to seek something new and get rid of neocons/neoliberals all together.
I'm sorry to rain on your Stalinist dreams of collectivisation, but there are Russians so much anti-collectivist they are even actually fighting for Ukraine.
Independent on the eve of the war after Putin proclaiming the Special Military Operation:
Approximately 69% of Russians now approve of Putin, compared to the 61% who approved of him in August 2021, according to Russian polling agency the Levada Center. And 29% of Russians disapprove of Putin, down from 37% in August 2021.
This is similar in Ukraine where most people rallied around the government, and actually typical for an European country at war in early stages.
The outbreak of WWI was met with mass enthusiasm in every involved country, including entire high school classes all volunteering, and "anti-war" socialists also voting for war. 2 years later and the French were shooting their own soldiers to break mutinies, then fast forward some more and the Russian, Austro-Hungarian, German empires were all taken down by socialist revolutions, nationalist uprisings, and military coups where not only the citizens' but crucially the soldiers/sailors' demands were to just stop the war. (And the war in Russia then didn't stop with even the end of WWI, and somehow got even worse.)
It's very different in Western Europe now, when for example the London march against the war in Iraq (before it started) was the greatest in all British history. But Russia is old style, and the state monopoly on very crude and omnipresent propaganda (and penalization of dissent) obviously helps a lot. Then the little things like the private loot going home also help. As I said,old style.
It's the Russian naval blockade that is starving the (third) world, yo.
Both warships and sea mines.
There are foreign ships loaded with grain for completely neutral countries stranded by it in Odesa for months, they simply can't leave.
Turkey to rescue (maybe):
ANKARA/UNITED NATIONS, June 15 (Reuters) - Russia on Wednesday said it has offered "safe passage" for Ukraine grain shipments from Black Sea ports but is not responsible for establishing the corridors and Turkey suggested that ships could be guided around sea mines.
G*rmans today:
"You have to hope for the world's sake that an agreement is reached," Scholz said, referring to to ongoing negotiations about establishing an export corridor across the Black Sea. "Russia must enable safe passage and at the same time give credible assurances that it will not use the corridor for an invasion," he told dpa.
This may or may not be true, but you've completely blown your credibility with anything Russia/Ukraine related. Nobody believes a damn thing you say because you're so clearly unhinged about the issue.
You may extremely easily check it yourself. You do have internet.
And try talking to some Ukrainian nationalists sometime, if you think I'm a hardliner here. You do have internet, again. You're globally connected, you talk with someone in Poland right now, so go and do it. They actually might be probably more informed too, as they live this literally.
Also I think you guys are unhinged, but most of lol you're simply very ignorant about the world, and just stupid. But that's typically American (you are one, aren't you), and on both sides of this particular issue too. So break out from your echo chamber of retards making retard noises.
America just announced building silos in Poland to help get out the Ukrainian grain through the Baltic (the usual Black Sea route is blockaded).
If you'd ask me, the Black Sea Fleet should be sunk by an international coalition to avoid a looming global catastrophe. Its flagship Moskva is already at the bottom of the sea.
It's a totally incoherent clusterfuck. The Dementia Joe admin is at the same time negotiating to free up Ukrainian and Russian fertilizer and grain exports.
Probably because Biden has too much at stake in Ukraine that would come out if he doesn't. Politicians are always willing to sacrifice you so that they don't have to suffer.
Hunter was the 'governance and accountability' officer for Bursima, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
There's back and forth over biolabs vs. weapon programs in propaganda over the last several months. Older US fact sheets had 46 biological labs in Ukraine. I've seen the numbers of 36 and 38 thrown around-- probably a subset of those labs from the above that are still active.
My money's on dual-purpose tech. The sort that's: 1) plausibly deniable, 2) maximally useful militarily, and 3) legal-- under the most generous interpretation of the relevant laws.
*In Ukraine, but not in the US or they would have done it domestically.
I believe Ukraine's laws are significantly laxer than the U.S., so those labs are probably engaged in things that wouldnt fly in the U.S. Imagine something so vile that a country that murders infants for convivence and mutilates children for clout has to outsource.
Lmao imagine being this retarded. This is basically ensuring a big win for Russia no matter how the war goes. The longer the war goes the more the west will starve and collapse, which is bad for Putin how?
I’d be okay with the Ukraine being blown off the fucking map if it meant there was no global recession. The only one invested in the outcome there to that extent is the Biden family. Even if it was a country I like, I wouldn’t ruin the world to ‘save’ it.
I see you guys also still can't comprehend how Ukraine is (was) one of the few countries literally feeding the world. (America is another.)
The thread is about the remnants of the last year's harvests (20 million tonnes of grain that can't be exported), but this year the sowing was already extremely severely disrupted, and so will be the harvests. The next year will be worse.
They're also razing and pillaging agricultural infrastructure:
https://observers.france24.com/en/europe/20220506-russian-attacks-on-farms-and-silos-deliberately-trying-to-destroy-the-ukrainian-economy
How would comprehending that change my opinion on it being part of Russia?
Russia could blackmail the world at will.
You mean exactly like the US is doing now?
No, America right now is rescuing the (third) world from Russian efforts to use global starvation as a tool in local war.
Do you have any more info on the importance of the Ukraine?
Once of other things is 90% of neon gas used in the manufacturing of American semiconductors (scarcity crisis right now).
And 50% of global.
Third largest global exporter of steel.
The foruth or fifth largest arms industry.
Etc.
The West won't starve. It's about the already hungry countries that were literally kept alive by the Ukrainian grain, now being blocked by Russia's Black Sea Fleet.
everything we used to criticize them for we do 10x harder.
Because the same people who ruled them have ruled us for nearly the past 60 years.
Feelings even older than that. Victoria Nuland for ex., her grandfather came to the states from that part of the world after being brutalized in one of the Russian Empire's pograms. We have people in key positions in the federal government holding grudges against Russia they picked up from their parents and their grandparents before them.
They'll have us all suffer because grandpa and gamgam had to come here and damn whoever gets caught in the crossfire as they get their revenge
Putin never tried to starve me.
What is in Ukraine that they are so afraid of letting him get his hands on?
Not you, just Egyptians and such.
There is: 44 million people (only 144 million in Russia, it's not like America or China with hundreds of millions), black earth ("breadbasket of Europe"), coal, iron (and steel production), rare metals (nickel, copper, palladium, platinum), neon gas, arms and other industries, and transport routes of all kinds (including warm ports). Among other things.
Putin didn't invade anything, this was the collective will of all Russians.
Wherever the west goes poverty, degeneracy, corruption and misery follows. Maybe it is time to seek something new and get rid of neocons/neoliberals all together.
I'm sorry to rain on your Stalinist dreams of collectivisation, but there are Russians so much anti-collectivist they are even actually fighting for Ukraine.
(Belarusians too.)
Russian government has like 95% approval so yeah there is a 5% ...
According to the government.
Independent on the eve of the war after Putin proclaiming the Special Military Operation:
This is similar in Ukraine where most people rallied around the government, and actually typical for an European country at war in early stages.
The outbreak of WWI was met with mass enthusiasm in every involved country, including entire high school classes all volunteering, and "anti-war" socialists also voting for war. 2 years later and the French were shooting their own soldiers to break mutinies, then fast forward some more and the Russian, Austro-Hungarian, German empires were all taken down by socialist revolutions, nationalist uprisings, and military coups where not only the citizens' but crucially the soldiers/sailors' demands were to just stop the war. (And the war in Russia then didn't stop with even the end of WWI, and somehow got even worse.)
It's very different in Western Europe now, when for example the London march against the war in Iraq (before it started) was the greatest in all British history. But Russia is old style, and the state monopoly on very crude and omnipresent propaganda (and penalization of dissent) obviously helps a lot. Then the little things like the private loot going home also help. As I said,old style.
It's the Russian naval blockade that is starving the (third) world, yo.
Both warships and sea mines.
There are foreign ships loaded with grain for completely neutral countries stranded by it in Odesa for months, they simply can't leave.
Turkey to rescue (maybe):
G*rmans today:
The mines are from both sides.
This may or may not be true, but you've completely blown your credibility with anything Russia/Ukraine related. Nobody believes a damn thing you say because you're so clearly unhinged about the issue.
You may extremely easily check it yourself. You do have internet.
And try talking to some Ukrainian nationalists sometime, if you think I'm a hardliner here. You do have internet, again. You're globally connected, you talk with someone in Poland right now, so go and do it. They actually might be probably more informed too, as they live this literally.
Also I think you guys are unhinged, but most of lol you're simply very ignorant about the world, and just stupid. But that's typically American (you are one, aren't you), and on both sides of this particular issue too. So break out from your echo chamber of retards making retard noises.
Biden’s just solving the obesity epidemic.
For fucks sake, Putin needs to nuke them already and get this shit over with.
Why?
The longer they take, the more it damages major economic rivals.
Sure thing, radioactive black soil will surely feed all these African and ME countries that Putin decided to starve by blockading their food imports.
I will eat democrats. Human, the other white meat, is what's for dinner in WWIII.
America just announced building silos in Poland to help get out the Ukrainian grain through the Baltic (the usual Black Sea route is blockaded).
If you'd ask me, the Black Sea Fleet should be sunk by an international coalition to avoid a looming global catastrophe. Its flagship Moskva is already at the bottom of the sea.
FUCK YEAH! MORE FOREVER WAR! WHOOOOO!!!!!!
/s for those slow enough to need it
It's a totally incoherent clusterfuck. The Dementia Joe admin is at the same time negotiating to free up Ukrainian and Russian fertilizer and grain exports.