the way a date is defined in that article is 2 dinners a bottle of wine, and 2 movie tickets.
Im sorry, but that is a shitty date any way you look at it. You cant talk during the movie so what is the point?
And dinner with someone you want to get to know is a waste of money, its no better quality time or conversation you could have over coffee or some drinks.
Thanks for the original post, I’m certain I’ll be referencing this countless times this summer. I love how it circumvents heated subjects and promotes common ground dialogue. All while it reveals self evident truths about ‘higher order’ matters that are somewhat unavoidable logical conclusions, without even mentioning them! Brilliant.
$300 for two seems exorbitant for 2 in New York City, let alone all of New York State. Especially as an average. It means that there's a $500 for every $100 date.
I've been in a bunch of those states, and those values all seem double my experience (and what I know from a lot of other's as well).
The only way these numbers check out is factoring in alcohol costs, of which most people pay absurd amounts in general. There are a lot of retarded people dropping 100s$ a night at the clubs on just drinks.
Yeah that's absurd, and part of the reason why I don't think club/bar dates should be casually lumped in with regular dates.
For those costs I could buy enough alcohol to drink in my backyard to get me and my other wasted twice over. And if they are such strangers to not be willing to go to your house, you shouldn't be spending that kind of money to begin with.
It is. But Match tends to be geared toward older (as in late 20s and up) people with their shit together who want to get married and start having kids. First dates among that kind of crowd usually involve both parties flexing their disposable income as a way to signal their suitability as a mate.
If you polled various other dating sites, the results would probably look like this:
OKCupid: $30
eHarmony: $301 (see, we're better than Match!)
PlentyOfFish: $3
Tinder: However much it costs to get treated for gonorrhea, plus the price of a quart of Karkov
It's easy to spend that in NYC at an upscale restaurant if you factor in 2 to 4 drinks. You can also get way cheaper costs depending on where in the city you go. Downtown or Soho? Big costs. Elsewhere, not so bad.
I call bullshit on those numbers. People who meet through more traditional means (e.g. through school, work, community activities) don't spend nearly as much. All of them are probably off by a factor of 2-4
Wow, paying for a hooker is cheaper and less annoying...
Wait till the diseases kick in.
There was a time where parents paid the groom to take their daughter as wife...
Depends on the culture. Some places the parents pay the groom to rid them of their daughter, in other places the groom has to pay them (presumably for having had to raise her to that age).
For working class people, the purpose of a dowry was to make sure the new husband had the resources to take care of the daughter so they didn't starve. It was literally, "here's a couple of goats to get you through the winter. After that
you're on your own."
For wealthier people, a dowry was effectively paying the husband for access to his position in society. In both cases, it was about making sure the woman would be able to live in the style she was accustomed to.
This depends on the level of social control over women. In societies that keep their women under control, men have to pay to get married, because they can not have sex otherwise. In societies that don't keep their women under control, men have to be paid to get married, because they could get sex for free, and the women families would have to spend money to support the bastards anyway.
If you're a retard about it sure. But if you know what you're doing and stay away from $50 crack whores they're cleaner than the average thot who's done it bareback with at least one Chad who in turn has picked stuff up from every slut in town. The hookers who are decently high class have an incentive to stay clean that the average bar slut doesn't.
Nah, it's definitely higher. She's not gonna put out after only one date if the dude is a beta and betas make up 80 or 90 percent of the male population. So it's probably at least triple that.
COL is probably a good deal lower in SD than in other states. I live in quite an expensive European city, but I can have quite a good meal for two for not much more than that - if not an especially classy restaurant.
Giving simping a dollar value is a complete distraction from the actual problem. Which is the time and emotional effort of it, which is what consumes most simps out of almost their entire days.
And you shouldn't be going on a lot of dates to begin with. Courting and vetting processes exist for a reason you absolute whores, filter out the garbage before you even spend the dollar.
As someone from Arkansas who is married there is no way we are going on a date night for 59 bucks. And how the hell does Mississippi cost more than us? They are the asshole of America.
oh my god! NYC is what people call an "elephant graveyard" too, its where women who "want to enjoy life" [interpret that as you will] go and eventually become old spinsters.
Also NYC is one of the few cities in the US that has more dating age women than men, its a city in mens favor for dating. so why are the men spending that much money?!
I was too hasty, the article defines a date as 2 dinners, a bottle of wine, and 2 movie tickets. It's an article on the cost of goods/ services , not a survey of what guys spend on a date
The simple act of going on a date is "simping" per Imp. Because of course it is. Holy shit are ever you down bad. The girl that broke your heart was apparently very thorough.
Cost seems to reflect the price of recreational activities and restaurants per state. Also, if your GF never offers to pay at leat once, you should know to walk away.
$300 per person? My God. When you start listening to the Manosphere talk about one night stands and you realize exactly how pointless dating is as a screening technique. There has got to be a better way to sift through people for relationships.
This heuristic is sufficient to make all other political or ideological inputs superfluous.
My dad always said “The cheaper the date the better the mate“, and he was right.
They're all whores in this degenerate environment. The hookers are just honest about it.
But only one way guarantees a product or service.
Yup. Hookers hold up their end of the bargain making them more honest than most thots.
Jimmy Soul said it best.
the way a date is defined in that article is 2 dinners a bottle of wine, and 2 movie tickets.
Im sorry, but that is a shitty date any way you look at it. You cant talk during the movie so what is the point?
And dinner with someone you want to get to know is a waste of money, its no better quality time or conversation you could have over coffee or some drinks.
Thanks for the original post, I’m certain I’ll be referencing this countless times this summer. I love how it circumvents heated subjects and promotes common ground dialogue. All while it reveals self evident truths about ‘higher order’ matters that are somewhat unavoidable logical conclusions, without even mentioning them! Brilliant.
How would match.com be a good source for that data? I get that you can make plans on their sites, but how would they obtain the bill(s)?
$300 for two seems exorbitant for 2 in New York City, let alone all of New York State. Especially as an average. It means that there's a $500 for every $100 date.
But what do I know? I've never been to Murica.
Selection bias, or maybe they're polling the women, who aren't the ones paying the bill and aren't good with money.
I've been in a bunch of those states, and those values all seem double my experience (and what I know from a lot of other's as well).
The only way these numbers check out is factoring in alcohol costs, of which most people pay absurd amounts in general. There are a lot of retarded people dropping 100s$ a night at the clubs on just drinks.
When I was in NYC $18 a drink was pretty common unless you went out a bit. Even then, regular house drinks ran around $12.
Yeah that's absurd, and part of the reason why I don't think club/bar dates should be casually lumped in with regular dates.
For those costs I could buy enough alcohol to drink in my backyard to get me and my other wasted twice over. And if they are such strangers to not be willing to go to your house, you shouldn't be spending that kind of money to begin with.
It is. But Match tends to be geared toward older (as in late 20s and up) people with their shit together who want to get married and start having kids. First dates among that kind of crowd usually involve both parties flexing their disposable income as a way to signal their suitability as a mate.
If you polled various other dating sites, the results would probably look like this:
OKCupid: $30
eHarmony: $301 (see, we're better than Match!)
PlentyOfFish: $3
Tinder: However much it costs to get treated for gonorrhea, plus the price of a quart of Karkov
It's easy to spend that in NYC at an upscale restaurant if you factor in 2 to 4 drinks. You can also get way cheaper costs depending on where in the city you go. Downtown or Soho? Big costs. Elsewhere, not so bad.
I call bullshit on those numbers. People who meet through more traditional means (e.g. through school, work, community activities) don't spend nearly as much. All of them are probably off by a factor of 2-4
Wait till the diseases kick in.
Depends on the culture. Some places the parents pay the groom to rid them of their daughter, in other places the groom has to pay them (presumably for having had to raise her to that age).
For working class people, the purpose of a dowry was to make sure the new husband had the resources to take care of the daughter so they didn't starve. It was literally, "here's a couple of goats to get you through the winter. After that you're on your own."
For wealthier people, a dowry was effectively paying the husband for access to his position in society. In both cases, it was about making sure the woman would be able to live in the style she was accustomed to.
Look, at this point, just pay for some expensive sex toys and call it a day. The worst they are going to run you is the cost of 3-5 dates.
This depends on the level of social control over women. In societies that keep their women under control, men have to pay to get married, because they can not have sex otherwise. In societies that don't keep their women under control, men have to be paid to get married, because they could get sex for free, and the women families would have to spend money to support the bastards anyway.
If you're a retard about it sure. But if you know what you're doing and stay away from $50 crack whores they're cleaner than the average thot who's done it bareback with at least one Chad who in turn has picked stuff up from every slut in town. The hookers who are decently high class have an incentive to stay clean that the average bar slut doesn't.
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Nah, it's definitely higher. She's not gonna put out after only one date if the dude is a beta and betas make up 80 or 90 percent of the male population. So it's probably at least triple that.
Plot twist: This is just the cost of the gas used for the date.
A case of Nattie and a couple Taco Bell $5 boxes.
That'd be a fun evening. But then again I'm in a state where the average date is <$60
Yo hio!
I'll take that over a broadway theater show and $20 drinks at some hipster bar.
COL is probably a good deal lower in SD than in other states. I live in quite an expensive European city, but I can have quite a good meal for two for not much more than that - if not an especially classy restaurant.
Giving simping a dollar value is a complete distraction from the actual problem. Which is the time and emotional effort of it, which is what consumes most simps out of almost their entire days.
And you shouldn't be going on a lot of dates to begin with. Courting and vetting processes exist for a reason you absolute whores, filter out the garbage before you even spend the dollar.
Its a powerful negative feedback, don’t discount it lightly.
As someone from Arkansas who is married there is no way we are going on a date night for 59 bucks. And how the hell does Mississippi cost more than us? They are the asshole of America.
oh my god! NYC is what people call an "elephant graveyard" too, its where women who "want to enjoy life" [interpret that as you will] go and eventually become old spinsters.
Also NYC is one of the few cities in the US that has more dating age women than men, its a city in mens favor for dating. so why are the men spending that much money?!
I was too hasty, the article defines a date as 2 dinners, a bottle of wine, and 2 movie tickets. It's an article on the cost of goods/ services , not a survey of what guys spend on a date
The simple act of going on a date is "simping" per Imp. Because of course it is. Holy shit are ever you down bad. The girl that broke your heart was apparently very thorough.
As a single guy in Oklahoma who is trying to find my future wife, I can confirm this as fairly accurate.
Cost seems to reflect the price of recreational activities and restaurants per state. Also, if your GF never offers to pay at leat once, you should know to walk away.
ITT: Anyone in the thread encouraging paying for hookers is obviously MGTOW.
By this data? They obviously have a point.
$300 per person? My God. When you start listening to the Manosphere talk about one night stands and you realize exactly how pointless dating is as a screening technique. There has got to be a better way to sift through people for relationships.
Who the fuck is spending $100+ on a date anywhere?