Keep him around and you'll discover his other talents too :
sleeping with your wife, daughter, setting up Ukraine deals, china bribery scams, bringing prostitutes home, recording it all on a laptop and losing 3 of his laptops to drug deals / repair shops
The enemy's goal is to subvert or destroy EVERYTHING that isn't them. The Borg is an apt allegory for neomarxism. Except The Borg looks cool, assimilation makes individuals stronger not weaker, and isn't faggoted up.
I had to peace out of the latest RLM Picard reviews because Mike and Rich can’t call a spade a spade. The show sucks exactly because the writers are radical leftists, but the RLM crew can’t bring themselves to come out and just say it. It’s frustrating watching them flounder around looking for politically correct criticisms.
I guess when they started hanging out with Hollywood celebrities and Macaulay Culkin. They had Patton Oswalt on too but it didn't seem like they got along with him at all.
I don't understand the hatred for the Abrams movies. What was there, 1 and 1/2 good Star Trek movies in over a dozen attempts before then? Star Trek was always a TV franchise, and the only way to have it be a viable film franchise was to do exactly what they did.
The movies weren't what killed the franchise - it was Discovery, Picard and the rest.
In fact the movies could have reinvigorated the franchise had they been paired with another TNG, Voyager or DS-9 style series set 30 years after TNG which was in that same cerebral, thoughtful, hopeful vein as classic Trek. The dumber, flashier movies would have been a great "gateway drug" to "Real Trek" on the TV to keep the "True Trek" fans happy, and probably would have subsidized the whole operation. Those movies were pretty decent for what they were.
What you're suggesting could have worked, but we all know it didn't work out that way. It didn't work out that way because JJ Abrams & Alex Kurtzman never had any intention of honoring the franchise. Their goal from the beginning was to turn it into shit.
Their only major talent is going to the correct synagogue.
Ironically that episode highlights massive problems with STP given it's not only Stewart's own favourite episode but considered one of the best of the whole series yet so much of it contradicts some of the main points STP repeatedly brings up.
Additionally the reboot movies and their related materials even contradict STP as the tie in comics flat out show things that STP claims otherwise.
There's a new kind of Moore's Law at play here, one that concerns the time it takes to recognize meaningless timesinks. There was a day when that meant "I'm not going to watch Picard because it looks like a waste of time," now it means "I'm not going to watch critical takedowns of Picard because even that is a waste of time." Everything in mainstream media is empty calories. Even the critics who profiteer off of shitting on MSM are tired of the enterprise. Let's all just move the fuck on and enrich our lives.
Go find letters home from soldiers in the Civil War. These are farmers, mechanics, and destitute hillbillies who have a greater mastery of the English language than we do. We don't even know how much we've lost. Picard is shit. Okay fine. Move on. Read books.
Fuck yeah. Pretty much all I read is historical nonfiction, and a good part of it, first hand accounts. I'm currently reading "The Cruise of the Cachalot", an account of a 19th century whaling voyage, written very competently by a British seaman with scarcely any formal education.
Edit: If anyone wants any recommendations of (mostly nautical) historical nonfiction, hit me up.
Actually that sounds awesome. Moby Dick made my shortlist because a friend of mine complained it spent too much time talking about whaling. What else do you recommend?
I'm not hugely into whaling. I've read a few books about it, but it's not my favorite niche. Since my first book in this genre was "Two Years Before the Mast" and Richard H. Dana was very prejudiced against whalers (painting a very grim picture of the Russian whaling ship he visits) I kind of scoffed at whaling. The most famous first hand account of a whaling cruise is "Narrative of the Most Extraordinary and Distressing Shipwreck of the Whale-Ship Essex" by Owen Chase. The problem with the story of the Essex is that everyone is already familiar with it. Be it through Moby Dick, or by the movie adaptation. It's a good read, specially if topped up with Philbrick's "In the Heart of the Sea", which was the basis for the film. But this book I'm reading (The Cruise of the Cachalot) is a good starting point for whaling and nautical nonfiction. The author ( an experienced British seaman) wrote the book in 1898 about his first whaling trip (after years serving in merchant vessels) with the general public in mind, and it's well worth a shot. Beautiful descriptions of the battles between men and the leviathan, lovely visits to faraway islands, and a honest overall account of the situation of sailors in the late 19th century. Now, if you want something more exciting, glamorous, and a little older, you can't go wrong with Owen Chase's book. Shit, I just realized I don't know how to break lines here. I've never written so much in this board.
OK, I started talking about this and now I can't stop.
So, if you wanna read modern books about whaling I can't recommend enough "Leviathan" by Eric J. Dolin. It's by far the most comprehensive and accessible book about the American whaling industry. It's deep, well researched and thick with information, but at the same time it's not academic or dependent on the reader's baggage. The one (obvious) criticism I got for this book is that it's too American. It can't help looking at whaling from a purely American perspective. He acknowledges the British, but at times ignoring the Basque and Portuguese (except when it comes to the Portuguese participation in the New England whaling industry). Then again, it IS supposed to be a book about the history of the American whale fishery.
And my final recommendation of whaling books is "Final Voyage" by Peter Nichols. This is a book about the great whaling disaster of 1871, which is told from the perspective of several persons involved in it. If you're not familiar with it, it was a fateful arctic whaling which trapped over 30 vessels in the ice before they could make it through the strait of Behring. There's an IMMENSE wealth of first hand accounts in this book. The story is told through excerpts from people's mail, diaries, and published narratives. The book is so rich with characters and stories that at times it's hard to keep track of who's who or who was doing what. Despite that, it's a treasure trove of first hand accounts of that period (and not just sailors and sea life, but also accounts of women and even children who were onboard some of the ships). Not to mention that the disaster of 1871 is as much a polar survival subject as it is a whaling one.
Now, my favorite subgenre is voyages of exploration and discovery. If I had to choose one story to begin with, I'd go with Pigafetta's narrative of the first circumnavigation (A.K.A. Magellan's Voyage). You couple that with a good modern book like Laurence Bergreen's "Over the Edge of the World", that will filling the gaps of all the shit you didn't understand, and you're set. You can find Pigafetta's book for free in Gutenberg project and in the Internet Archive (both in revised modern Italian and translated to English). Sorry about this frens, I didn't mean to attempt thread hijacking, but it was stronger than me.
He stupidly said he wanted to do a show to respond to Trump and Brexit. I love Next Gen but I didn’t waste my time with this. Plus making seven of nine gay is very typical of modern entertainment
Representation by overrepresenting is the new norm it seems. I never even liked the token black character they shoved into everything back in the day because we gotta have a black guy on the group. The shit they do now you would have in a group of 6 where there are 4 blacks, one trans lesbian and maybe a gay white guy if you are lucky. I look fondly back at the token black guy because at least he wasn't preaching about how bad he has it as a black guy.
Agreed. I always roll my eyes at the obligatory “I’m so oppressed speech” though it’s hilarious to see a young black person say that and of course nobody is allowed to push back against the narrative
The worst thing for a creative property is apathy. If the fans hate you, they're still talking about you and hoping for change. Once they no longer care to think about you at all, it's over.
I was never a big Star Trek guy, but in general, I'm surprised how easy it is to just wash my hands of IPs I formerly loved. I guess I've come to understand then as consumer products now, and there are way more important battles to fight against woketards.
I don't even feel like I'm sacrificing anything or losing anything, though. It's just a feeling of complete detachment, no anger, regret, sorrow, etc. At first I thought I would feel a sense of loss or something over it.
It's at the point where I can't really tell if it's being ironic about it or not.
Remember, The Next Generation was pro-SJW in its time, and Lower Decks is quite deliberately kicking TNG in the shin.
If you want to take a clipboard and rundown all the SJW best-of tropes, does it check a lot of boxes? Sure. But not in a flattering way.
I mean take Becket. Archetypal perfect strong minority female? Yes, and no. Because she's played so far over the top into mary sue territory that she's basically just a font of chaos like Rick Sanchez. And when look at her actual flaws, they're very, very human (again just like Rick) because it's all an act to cover insecurity and having awkward relationships with friends and family on account of not wanting to show any vulnerability.
Boimler on the other hand lampoons Roddenberry's ideals. His lived experiences serve to undermine all those ready room speeches Picard gave. Mark Hamill once said that Luke Skywalker was "the Abbott in a universe of Costellos". That's basically what Boimler is, illustrating how detached Gene's clinically professional sense of morality would be from the reality of a universe full of aliens that MIGHT ACTUALLY think like us (and be as fucked up as us).
I'm actually starting to enjoy this last season of Picard, in a flaming train crash kind of way. I'm a couple eps behind- I didn't even try watching it until a couple weeks ago.
Just how silly and MUH RAYCISM it all is- The Federation is now the Confederation (GET IT?? IT'S A CONFEDERACY, LIKE THE SOUTHERN SLAVE NAZIS!!!!!), human supremacists, ICE being big mean racisms, turning Guinian into a thin, young (despite her already being established looking like 1990s Whoopie Goldberg in the 1800s) depressed BLM bitch, trying to excuse immortals like Guinan and Q now being old, Data and that android bitch from the 1st season being there for some reason...
It’s like a friend who isn’t dead, but became a meth addict
Keep him around, and he'll just rob you.
Keep him around and you'll discover his other talents too :
sleeping with your wife, daughter, setting up Ukraine deals, china bribery scams, bringing prostitutes home, recording it all on a laptop and losing 3 of his laptops to drug deals / repair shops
I know you mean Hunter Biden, but that's actually pretty close to some ex friends in my life.
Wait, Hunter slept with some of his buddy's wives and daughters?
Hunter slept with his BROTHER's wife and daughter.
(* allegedly)
Pretty sure that it's been confirmed that he slept with his sister-in-law, just not (officially) his niece.
Weird how women mysteriously sleep with meth heads. Almost like they don't like men who are well adjusted and productive members of society.
Very true.
The enemy's goal is to subvert or destroy EVERYTHING that isn't them. The Borg is an apt allegory for neomarxism. Except The Borg looks cool, assimilation makes individuals stronger not weaker, and isn't faggoted up.
I had to peace out of the latest RLM Picard reviews because Mike and Rich can’t call a spade a spade. The show sucks exactly because the writers are radical leftists, but the RLM crew can’t bring themselves to come out and just say it. It’s frustrating watching them flounder around looking for politically correct criticisms.
Most likely because they are leftists. The skinny bald guy on RLM certainly is.
Jack isn't really an RLM member, he's more like a faaaaaaaabulousssss frequent guest.
I guess when they started hanging out with Hollywood celebrities and Macaulay Culkin. They had Patton Oswalt on too but it didn't seem like they got along with him at all.
Here are the writing credits, per imdb.
Kirsten Beyer ... (created by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Kirsten Beyer ... (story by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Kirsten Beyer ... (written by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Michael Chabon ... (created by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Michael Chabon ... (written by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Michael Chabon ... (story by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Michael Chabon ... (teleplay by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Akiva Goldsman ... (created by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Akiva Goldsman ... (story by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Akiva Goldsman ... (teleplay by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Akiva Goldsman ... (written by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Alex Kurtzman ... (created by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Alex Kurtzman ... (story by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Gene Roddenberry ... (based upon "Star Trek: The Next Generation" created by) (21 episodes, 2020-2023)
Nick Zayas ... (executive story editor) (10 episodes, 2020)
Nick Zayas ... (written by) (10 episodes, 2020)
Christopher B. Derrick ... (staff writer) (10 episodes, 2022)
Juliana James ... (staff writer) (10 episodes, 2022)
Juliana James ... (story by) (10 episodes, 2022)
Juliana James ... (teleplay by) (10 episodes, 2022)
Matthew Okumura ... (executive story editor) (10 episodes, 2022)
Matthew Okumura ... (story editor) (10 episodes, 2022)
Kiley Rossetter ... (staff writer) (10 episodes, 2022)
Kiley Rossetter ... (written by) (10 episodes, 2022)
Terry Matalas ... (written by) (4 episodes, 2022-2023)
Terry Matalas ... (story by) (4 episodes, 2022-2023)
Terry Matalas ... (teleplay by) (4 episodes, 2022-2023)
Jane Maggs ... (written by) (3 episodes, 2022)
Jane Maggs ... (teleplay by) (3 episodes, 2022)
James Duff ... (story by) (2 episodes, 2020)
James Duff ... (teleplay by) (2 episodes, 2020)
James Duff ... (written by) (2 episodes, 2020)
Cindy Appel ... (written by) (2 episodes, 2022)
Christopher Monfette ... (story by) (2 episodes, 2022)
Christopher Monfette ... (teleplay by) (2 episodes, 2022)
Christopher Monfette ... (written by) (2 episodes, 2022)
Sam Humphrey ... (written by) (1 episode, 2020)
Ayelet Waldman ... (story by) (1 episode, 2020)
Ayelet Waldman ... (teleplay by) (1 episode, 2020)
Travis Fickett ... (story by) (1 episode, 2022)
I thought the new movies were at least okay scifi, but not good ST movies.
I'm with you though. I saw what STD was and just accepted it was dead and gone.
Almost nothing in them is science fiction. It's just schlock.
That's why I said okay. It's watchable, even if it's not really good.
I don't understand the hatred for the Abrams movies. What was there, 1 and 1/2 good Star Trek movies in over a dozen attempts before then? Star Trek was always a TV franchise, and the only way to have it be a viable film franchise was to do exactly what they did.
The movies weren't what killed the franchise - it was Discovery, Picard and the rest.
In fact the movies could have reinvigorated the franchise had they been paired with another TNG, Voyager or DS-9 style series set 30 years after TNG which was in that same cerebral, thoughtful, hopeful vein as classic Trek. The dumber, flashier movies would have been a great "gateway drug" to "Real Trek" on the TV to keep the "True Trek" fans happy, and probably would have subsidized the whole operation. Those movies were pretty decent for what they were.
1, 2, 4, and 6 were actually good.
What you're suggesting could have worked, but we all know it didn't work out that way. It didn't work out that way because JJ Abrams & Alex Kurtzman never had any intention of honoring the franchise. Their goal from the beginning was to turn it into shit.
Their only major talent is going to the correct synagogue.
Ironically that episode highlights massive problems with STP given it's not only Stewart's own favourite episode but considered one of the best of the whole series yet so much of it contradicts some of the main points STP repeatedly brings up.
Additionally the reboot movies and their related materials even contradict STP as the tie in comics flat out show things that STP claims otherwise.
You have a season until Inner Light in that case as it's the second last episode of s5.
There's a new kind of Moore's Law at play here, one that concerns the time it takes to recognize meaningless timesinks. There was a day when that meant "I'm not going to watch Picard because it looks like a waste of time," now it means "I'm not going to watch critical takedowns of Picard because even that is a waste of time." Everything in mainstream media is empty calories. Even the critics who profiteer off of shitting on MSM are tired of the enterprise. Let's all just move the fuck on and enrich our lives.
Go find letters home from soldiers in the Civil War. These are farmers, mechanics, and destitute hillbillies who have a greater mastery of the English language than we do. We don't even know how much we've lost. Picard is shit. Okay fine. Move on. Read books.
Fuck yeah. Pretty much all I read is historical nonfiction, and a good part of it, first hand accounts. I'm currently reading "The Cruise of the Cachalot", an account of a 19th century whaling voyage, written very competently by a British seaman with scarcely any formal education. Edit: If anyone wants any recommendations of (mostly nautical) historical nonfiction, hit me up.
Actually that sounds awesome. Moby Dick made my shortlist because a friend of mine complained it spent too much time talking about whaling. What else do you recommend?
I'm not hugely into whaling. I've read a few books about it, but it's not my favorite niche. Since my first book in this genre was "Two Years Before the Mast" and Richard H. Dana was very prejudiced against whalers (painting a very grim picture of the Russian whaling ship he visits) I kind of scoffed at whaling. The most famous first hand account of a whaling cruise is "Narrative of the Most Extraordinary and Distressing Shipwreck of the Whale-Ship Essex" by Owen Chase. The problem with the story of the Essex is that everyone is already familiar with it. Be it through Moby Dick, or by the movie adaptation. It's a good read, specially if topped up with Philbrick's "In the Heart of the Sea", which was the basis for the film. But this book I'm reading (The Cruise of the Cachalot) is a good starting point for whaling and nautical nonfiction. The author ( an experienced British seaman) wrote the book in 1898 about his first whaling trip (after years serving in merchant vessels) with the general public in mind, and it's well worth a shot. Beautiful descriptions of the battles between men and the leviathan, lovely visits to faraway islands, and a honest overall account of the situation of sailors in the late 19th century. Now, if you want something more exciting, glamorous, and a little older, you can't go wrong with Owen Chase's book. Shit, I just realized I don't know how to break lines here. I've never written so much in this board.
OK, I started talking about this and now I can't stop. So, if you wanna read modern books about whaling I can't recommend enough "Leviathan" by Eric J. Dolin. It's by far the most comprehensive and accessible book about the American whaling industry. It's deep, well researched and thick with information, but at the same time it's not academic or dependent on the reader's baggage. The one (obvious) criticism I got for this book is that it's too American. It can't help looking at whaling from a purely American perspective. He acknowledges the British, but at times ignoring the Basque and Portuguese (except when it comes to the Portuguese participation in the New England whaling industry). Then again, it IS supposed to be a book about the history of the American whale fishery.
And my final recommendation of whaling books is "Final Voyage" by Peter Nichols. This is a book about the great whaling disaster of 1871, which is told from the perspective of several persons involved in it. If you're not familiar with it, it was a fateful arctic whaling which trapped over 30 vessels in the ice before they could make it through the strait of Behring. There's an IMMENSE wealth of first hand accounts in this book. The story is told through excerpts from people's mail, diaries, and published narratives. The book is so rich with characters and stories that at times it's hard to keep track of who's who or who was doing what. Despite that, it's a treasure trove of first hand accounts of that period (and not just sailors and sea life, but also accounts of women and even children who were onboard some of the ships). Not to mention that the disaster of 1871 is as much a polar survival subject as it is a whaling one.
Now, my favorite subgenre is voyages of exploration and discovery. If I had to choose one story to begin with, I'd go with Pigafetta's narrative of the first circumnavigation (A.K.A. Magellan's Voyage). You couple that with a good modern book like Laurence Bergreen's "Over the Edge of the World", that will filling the gaps of all the shit you didn't understand, and you're set. You can find Pigafetta's book for free in Gutenberg project and in the Internet Archive (both in revised modern Italian and translated to English). Sorry about this frens, I didn't mean to attempt thread hijacking, but it was stronger than me.
Hey. Thank you for all this.
Why are you gay
At least I'm not gay
No you
I'm going to pretend the last official Star Trek thing ever was the Enterprise ep In A Mirror, Darkly.
Although that 1st JJ fan film was kinda fun, that's not canon.
Still not as wacky an ending point as what the show actually ended up with.
He stupidly said he wanted to do a show to respond to Trump and Brexit. I love Next Gen but I didn’t waste my time with this. Plus making seven of nine gay is very typical of modern entertainment
Representation by overrepresenting is the new norm it seems. I never even liked the token black character they shoved into everything back in the day because we gotta have a black guy on the group. The shit they do now you would have in a group of 6 where there are 4 blacks, one trans lesbian and maybe a gay white guy if you are lucky. I look fondly back at the token black guy because at least he wasn't preaching about how bad he has it as a black guy.
Agreed. I always roll my eyes at the obligatory “I’m so oppressed speech” though it’s hilarious to see a young black person say that and of course nobody is allowed to push back against the narrative
She's married to Paul Ryan, they had to do something to her.
The worst thing for a creative property is apathy. If the fans hate you, they're still talking about you and hoping for change. Once they no longer care to think about you at all, it's over.
Add Star Wars, Marvel and DC comics, and Harry Potter to the list.
LOTR, too. Look forward to the shit Amazon is gonna do.
How to make a good Star Trek:
Step 1) Write a script for a TV show about glorified and idealized British explorers at the height of the British Empire.
Step 2) Find-replace all historic things with futurey things, and different countries with alien species.
Done. You've got 90% of a season right there.
Wait, forgot a step:
Step 3) Don't let SJWs near the script, ever.
I was never a big Star Trek guy, but in general, I'm surprised how easy it is to just wash my hands of IPs I formerly loved. I guess I've come to understand then as consumer products now, and there are way more important battles to fight against woketards.
Don't give money to people who hate you, it's very simple. They view us as the enemy-; why would we continue to fund them?
I don't even feel like I'm sacrificing anything or losing anything, though. It's just a feeling of complete detachment, no anger, regret, sorrow, etc. At first I thought I would feel a sense of loss or something over it.
I've said for a while that Lower Decks directly appeals to people who liked Star Trek but now believe Star Trek is dead, Jim.
Ah, the golden era of ST when the characters all ran around screaming and making sex jokes.
Lower Decks pokes the dead body of Star Trek with a stick. Picard wears it like a costume.
It's not woke?
It's at the point where I can't really tell if it's being ironic about it or not.
Remember, The Next Generation was pro-SJW in its time, and Lower Decks is quite deliberately kicking TNG in the shin.
If you want to take a clipboard and rundown all the SJW best-of tropes, does it check a lot of boxes? Sure. But not in a flattering way.
I mean take Becket. Archetypal perfect strong minority female? Yes, and no. Because she's played so far over the top into mary sue territory that she's basically just a font of chaos like Rick Sanchez. And when look at her actual flaws, they're very, very human (again just like Rick) because it's all an act to cover insecurity and having awkward relationships with friends and family on account of not wanting to show any vulnerability.
Boimler on the other hand lampoons Roddenberry's ideals. His lived experiences serve to undermine all those ready room speeches Picard gave. Mark Hamill once said that Luke Skywalker was "the Abbott in a universe of Costellos". That's basically what Boimler is, illustrating how detached Gene's clinically professional sense of morality would be from the reality of a universe full of aliens that MIGHT ACTUALLY think like us (and be as fucked up as us).
https://youtu.be/qqtni3A8ciA
I'm actually starting to enjoy this last season of Picard, in a flaming train crash kind of way. I'm a couple eps behind- I didn't even try watching it until a couple weeks ago.
Just how silly and MUH RAYCISM it all is- The Federation is now the Confederation (GET IT?? IT'S A CONFEDERACY, LIKE THE SOUTHERN SLAVE NAZIS!!!!!), human supremacists, ICE being big mean racisms, turning Guinian into a thin, young (despite her already being established looking like 1990s Whoopie Goldberg in the 1800s) depressed BLM bitch, trying to excuse immortals like Guinan and Q now being old, Data and that android bitch from the 1st season being there for some reason...
So why make a post about it?