I am in my 30s and am obviously still attracted to attractive women.
I know by now that sadly the benefits don't outweigh the costs thus I have no real interest in trying to fuck let alone develop a long term relationship.
I think my life is alright. I am not miserable and I am not extremely happy either.
Besides who can be extremely happy while living in our current clown world?
On a happiness scale of 0 being completely miserable to 10 being extremely happy, I am a 5-7 depending on the day.
I did not mean to say you would be miserable by just being a bachelor. There's nothing wrong with that, and in fact that's what you should be doing if you haven't found a woman worthy of marriage. I'm single atm and perfectly happy.
I meant that if you are interested in and are pursuing women, a long term relationship without marriage will make you miserable because you aren't doing things according to God's order.
If you are just sleeping around or paying women for sex, then you are suffering. Same if you have kids with a woman without being married. It never turns out well.
I think fucking around, prostitution and having kids without marriage are all engaging in sin so I would never view any of these three acts as real options.
Jester would never report him. He needs the "wamen question" to be ever present here to counter signal the JQ. AoV usually argues with Imp1. There's no telling if he also reports him.
That's not really a rebuttal, though. Decent women that strive to be a partner rather than a parasite exist. I mean... good luck finding them, but they're out there!
It is sadly getting closer to 90 percent these days if you mean women from the ages of 18-35.
Media's Trump hate heavily accelerated the gender polarity in voting.
Less and less young women are even willing to consider voting for anyone other than the Democrats.
As someone who is in his thirties, odds are close to impossible for me to find an attractive woman with a personality capable of raising children with and is not a psychotic Democrat even if I wanted too.
Marriage is something that has kept stable societies for centuries. The problem is the concept of marriage has been corrupted by feminism and government getting in the way. Marriage and government has been captured by both leftists and tradcons - even tradcons cuck by blindly pushing marriage without realizing our divorce rate is high, and we all know why leftists have ruined marriage. No-fault divorces (that one is on Ronald Reagan though), promotion of hedonism and hypersexualization, hyper-individualism stemmed from first and second wave feminism, excessive amounts of activism by these feminist groups to undermine the institution of marriage...
If you can find a way to completely annihilate feminism from government it'll go a long way, but you're going to have to wake the tradcons up as well.
This is one of my main points of contention. I'd like to have children for those very purposes. But I'm also worried about false allegations or her stealing all my money.
But to not have kids feels selfish. Perhaps even narcissistic to a point.
But I'm also worried about false allegations or her stealing all my money.
These are things that warrant caution, and typically more caution than your average young man has(hence why your parents used to pick your wife for you, because society realizes that you're too horny to be picky). But they most certainly aren't worth giving up as you have said.
But to not have kids feels selfish. Perhaps even narcissistic to a point.
Or cowardly. Many of these people seem to simply be finding excuses for a fear of rejection.
I've been dumped and/or shot down at least fifty times that I can remember since I turned 20.
But to me that doesn't matter because since then I've found myself a beautiful, sweet, smart, attentive woman who is a trained chef. She wants to be a stay at home mom and homeschool the children, and within a month of knowing her I heard her say "gas the trannies". I couldn't have designed a better woman.
The whole "plenty of fish in the sea" trope doesn't seem helpful when it's most commonly said, right after a breakup, but the fact of the matter is that it's true. Know your own value and adjust your standards accordingly, or else adjust yourself to improve your value.
0 reason to ever get married. Even cohabitation has problems. Women are masters of slowly nudging expenses onto you when cohabitating and when you split up, you get none of it back.
This sounds more like jewish problems than anything else. If you don't want to get screwed financially as a man don't reside in NYC. Nobody gets a hundred million dollars by working for it, and I'm not going to cry over their ill gotten gains getting stolen by some harpy
Don't get married in blue states. If you're gonna get married make absolutely sure your state has shit that doesn't fuck you over if you ever get divorced.
Omg. So much BS in one article. If you're getting divorced and one has helicopter money then the judge is going to order household expenses for the poorer partner. There are literal mechanisms in place for this already.
And the really funny thing is these so called smaller jurisdictions are more accustomed to wealthier people. They want them to go to in front of judges who only handle bullshit low level cases with no clue what is going on.
Already do. Why do you think women are murdered more by their boyfriends than men by their girlfriends? I know there's more murders than are reported because women get away with it, but men will kill a bitch more often.
Do you mean this specific thing or divorce laws in general? This specific thing is "rich people problems." Unless you are wealthy enough to reside in a place like NYC and also have a vacation home, this change doesn't apply to you.
But earlier this month, an appellate court ruled that a rich retired real estate developer, Mark Fisch, had to fight his divorce against former New Jersey Judge Rachel Davidson in Manhattan — rather than in Suffolk County — because their $4 million Southampton vacation home can’t be considered their residence.
White nationalists are actually VERY well aware of the problem. The thing is their excuse is because of the JQ - butterfly effect of Jews spreading ideology to disrupt the West and promote communism/socialist/feminism to destablize us.
Tradcons, however, are actually very bluepilled about this. They think the problem is just feminism yet they still support women being in the workforce rather than being wives.
That's been the message since before the vast majority of us were born, but there's no getting through to simps.
If you are MGTOW, you can ensure you will never become completely miserable by simply not getting married in the first place.
Truth my brother.
True, but you’ll die old, depraved, & alone.
No marriage doesn't mean no relationship what are you on about?
It means a stable lasting one that bears legitimate children. Sorry if you’re not prepared for that.
Now we know what you're afraid of.
But you will be completely miserable, assuming that you still have interest in women.
I am in my 30s and am obviously still attracted to attractive women.
I know by now that sadly the benefits don't outweigh the costs thus I have no real interest in trying to fuck let alone develop a long term relationship.
I think my life is alright. I am not miserable and I am not extremely happy either.
Besides who can be extremely happy while living in our current clown world?
On a happiness scale of 0 being completely miserable to 10 being extremely happy, I am a 5-7 depending on the day.
I did not mean to say you would be miserable by just being a bachelor. There's nothing wrong with that, and in fact that's what you should be doing if you haven't found a woman worthy of marriage. I'm single atm and perfectly happy.
I meant that if you are interested in and are pursuing women, a long term relationship without marriage will make you miserable because you aren't doing things according to God's order.
If you are just sleeping around or paying women for sex, then you are suffering. Same if you have kids with a woman without being married. It never turns out well.
If God wants me to believe in his order then he better enforce it.
I think fucking around, prostitution and having kids without marriage are all engaging in sin so I would never view any of these three acts as real options.
I rather just stay a bachelor doing my own thing.
If they're MGTOW then there's a good chance women in his life have killed any good will and interest in women in the first place.
I'm coming to the conclusion that in a state of nature simps don't survive and that such a state of affairs is beneficial to everyone.
Imp is looking down on us and shaking his head, he spoke to warn us, to prepare us, and was sacrificed so mods could hide the truth.
What happened to Imp? I've seen him mentioned a few times now.
Antonio and Jester spam report everything he says(because they're leftist jannie wannabes), and he gets banned periodically.
Jester would never report him. He needs the "wamen question" to be ever present here to counter signal the JQ. AoV usually argues with Imp1. There's no telling if he also reports him.
Jester report spams everyone who argues with him, he did it to me for about three weeks at one point.
They don't argue, though. They usually side with each other. Imp1 defends Israel. Jester cheers on Imp1's anti-wamen myopia.
Imp is not actually a dedicated Zionist or anything. He deflects from it because of this.
He used to not be so myopic a couple of years ago, but he has really gone down hill.
If he goes more than a day without posting it's always because he got rule 16'ed for his posts about women.
Three weeks I believe, but I could be wrong.
This is the first time I've heard the word "misogyny" unironically used and it actually being accurate lol
Why?
Marriage is a relic of a society and culture that has been buried for at least 50 years.
It's only function remaining is as a weapon against naive men bred and groomed to be exploited.
Do not get married. It's a ridiculous institution, objectively, given the current laws and customs.
Marriage is awesome when it’s with the right person. Sorry you’re a loser.
That's not really a rebuttal, though. Decent women that strive to be a partner rather than a parasite exist. I mean... good luck finding them, but they're out there!
Sorry bro, I know being angry & lonely is hard. But MGTOW isn’t the answer. Try harder next time.
Considering 70+% of women our age vote Democrat, that population is becoming smaller and smaller.
It is sadly getting closer to 90 percent these days if you mean women from the ages of 18-35.
Media's Trump hate heavily accelerated the gender polarity in voting.
Less and less young women are even willing to consider voting for anyone other than the Democrats.
As someone who is in his thirties, odds are close to impossible for me to find an attractive woman with a personality capable of raising children with and is not a psychotic Democrat even if I wanted too.
I just stay single and happily do my own thing.
It's cute that you think that's not treated exactly the same as getting married by law. It's called common law marriage.
And not every state has that. In fact, a lot of states consider that a deprecated practice.
Um we do? It’s called owning a house together.
Marriage is something that has kept stable societies for centuries. The problem is the concept of marriage has been corrupted by feminism and government getting in the way. Marriage and government has been captured by both leftists and tradcons - even tradcons cuck by blindly pushing marriage without realizing our divorce rate is high, and we all know why leftists have ruined marriage. No-fault divorces (that one is on Ronald Reagan though), promotion of hedonism and hypersexualization, hyper-individualism stemmed from first and second wave feminism, excessive amounts of activism by these feminist groups to undermine the institution of marriage...
If you can find a way to completely annihilate feminism from government it'll go a long way, but you're going to have to wake the tradcons up as well.
Leftoids doing leftoid things. The real lesson is, don't live there.
I married and I'm on my third child because if nobody does it, then our race, religion and ideology die with us. Civilization is built on families.
This is one of my main points of contention. I'd like to have children for those very purposes. But I'm also worried about false allegations or her stealing all my money.
But to not have kids feels selfish. Perhaps even narcissistic to a point.
These are things that warrant caution, and typically more caution than your average young man has(hence why your parents used to pick your wife for you, because society realizes that you're too horny to be picky). But they most certainly aren't worth giving up as you have said.
Or cowardly. Many of these people seem to simply be finding excuses for a fear of rejection.
I've been dumped and/or shot down at least fifty times that I can remember since I turned 20.
But to me that doesn't matter because since then I've found myself a beautiful, sweet, smart, attentive woman who is a trained chef. She wants to be a stay at home mom and homeschool the children, and within a month of knowing her I heard her say "gas the trannies". I couldn't have designed a better woman.
The whole "plenty of fish in the sea" trope doesn't seem helpful when it's most commonly said, right after a breakup, but the fact of the matter is that it's true. Know your own value and adjust your standards accordingly, or else adjust yourself to improve your value.
just buy silver bullions and claim that you lost all the money buying nfts
Oh no, the elite leftists in New York can’t run to rural counties to get more favorable divorce terms. And that’s a bad thing?
0 reason to ever get married. Even cohabitation has problems. Women are masters of slowly nudging expenses onto you when cohabitating and when you split up, you get none of it back.
Some of us are happily married, not 18 & angry.
They are the least likely to be married.
West Elm Caleb did nothing wrong.
Apologize to Imp.
This sounds more like jewish problems than anything else. If you don't want to get screwed financially as a man don't reside in NYC. Nobody gets a hundred million dollars by working for it, and I'm not going to cry over their ill gotten gains getting stolen by some harpy
Don't get married in blue states. If you're gonna get married make absolutely sure your state has shit that doesn't fuck you over if you ever get divorced.
Omg. So much BS in one article. If you're getting divorced and one has helicopter money then the judge is going to order household expenses for the poorer partner. There are literal mechanisms in place for this already.
And the really funny thing is these so called smaller jurisdictions are more accustomed to wealthier people. They want them to go to in front of judges who only handle bullshit low level cases with no clue what is going on.
At some point it assuredly becomes more efficient to simply murder your ex. Some people will arrive at this conclusion and act on it, mark my words.
Already do. Why do you think women are murdered more by their boyfriends than men by their girlfriends? I know there's more murders than are reported because women get away with it, but men will kill a bitch more often.
Do you mean this specific thing or divorce laws in general? This specific thing is "rich people problems." Unless you are wealthy enough to reside in a place like NYC and also have a vacation home, this change doesn't apply to you.
White nationalists are actually VERY well aware of the problem. The thing is their excuse is because of the JQ - butterfly effect of Jews spreading ideology to disrupt the West and promote communism/socialist/feminism to destablize us.
Tradcons, however, are actually very bluepilled about this. They think the problem is just feminism yet they still support women being in the workforce rather than being wives.
No, I actually identify this as a catastrophic issue that needs to be addressed.