I can give Crowder credit. His investigating voter fraud, his lawsuits against social media companies, his Michigan rally, and the time that they infiltrated Antifa in Utah were worthwhile.
Sargon ran for office.
Otherwise, yeah, the rest of them basically just read news articles on youtube.
It's nice to have infotainment sometimes that isn't left, so there's that.
You should definitely get involved. I've been looking at options myself lately, but I'm not sure what really fits anymore.
*spez: Just remembered how awesome it was watching Carlso Maza lose his mind and eventually his undeserved career because Crowder made fun of him a few times. That's definitely one of the best things he's done.
The smug idiot couldn't stop huffing his own farts long enough to connect with anyone but his (prior) fanbase.
I always think back to one specific interview where some lady kept going back to the "You deserve rape" comment and his ridiculously bad answers to it.
He would have easily won if he could drop the smugness for just 30 minutes to finish a TV spot.
As soon as the Brexit Party came on the stage, UKIP was doomed electorally. Carl and Markus knew that going in. Carl used it for publicity, as well as playing to his fans. That was the best that could come from it, because there was no way he or any UKIP candidate was headed to Brussels.
I like Sargon but his political bid made no sense to me. He didn't declare any positions or really seem like he even wanted to win. I'm not sure if he was going for a 'pushed forward reluctant leader' gambit or if he was just trying to self promote via provacateurism but I'm sure it's something he'd rather forget about.
Yeah, that's why easy times create weak men. When shit gets real, things will change. As long as we can remain relatively comfortable within the status quo, that's what the vast majority will choose.
They are anti-useful. Their entire purpose is to catch people moving from the left to the right and judo them back the other direction. They try to keep people inside the Overton window since the left controls the location of the Overton window. That is the reason people like the Weinstein brothers and Shapiro are always attacking the right from a framing that works on people on the right and moving right. Most of them are also part of the group that says whites forming groups and realizing their ethnic identity is bad, while at the same time holding two thousand year old ethnic grudges. Some of them however are just grifters looking to make a buck from the employed. (Crowder mostly)
So how many of your comments have been removed this past week? I didn't see any removals even with Antonio baiting you trying to get you banned. You are only outside of the Overton window in normie lands.
For that matter the backstabber won't remove anti-white hatred from Gizortnik, saying it is ok, because based black man said it. But don't you dare point out a chameleon, like Bret Weinstein, changing his colors. That gets removed.
The majority of videos of someone going completely unhinged at seeing someone without a mask on are typically women. So which is it. Women don’t care about wu flu or all evidence that points to they care too much.
Stupid argument, you don’t have to believe in a viruses lethality to be a cry bully. If the shoe was on the other foot the harpies would act in the exact same manner because it makes them feel empowered.
TL;DR - talk is easy, but means nothing without action. Like becoming addicted to reading self help books, because it feels like your helping yourself, when really, you're just drowning.
The IDW and the like, they are a mix of edutainment and copium. Sargon did (unsuccessfully) run for government, and did public debates on the streets. Crowder also does public street debates, and does use his lawyer, who is now spending less time on the show, because he's spending more time preparing a significant lawsuit to strike back at one of the tech companies. Crowder also can't get too excited/ stressed anymore since he has a serious heart problem. Pool & Styx are comfortable. Pool plays it up, but he's doing well for himself and is pretty safe.
There is value in what they do, but it means little because no one acts on it. This includes us. There were some successes with GG (such as FTC regulating declaring advertisements), but honestly, the opposition so far has trounced it, because they shamelessly pursue action.
People tend to want others to lead, and they'll follow. If you want something, and no one's leading it, or not doing it well enough, that means you have to. This comes with personal sacrifice. How much is the change you want worth, whether to change now, or what will be?
Most people aren't leaders though, so even if they wanted to throw their hat in the ring, they'd just botch things and make some blunder that their enemies would capitalize on to further cement power. Frankly I think the lack of individuals with capacity for leadership might be a cultural issue and an engineered one at that. In the average person's formative years, how much opportunity is there to really develop such a set of skills and how much cultural importance do we place on nurturing that? Very little I would say. Our whole public education system is designed to crank out mindless drones for the corporate world who do as they are told and learn how to do the telling or any of the associated personal development required for genuine leadership.
Some degree of central effort is needed. People need to rally behind individuals with certain values in mind. One main problem of "the right" is that it's all spread out rural with no actual communications network outside of local talk.
I don't think people like who you have named accomplish that, which is why I don't watch them. Their goal is to have a discussion and reach things through "reasonable terms" which will never happen, it will only be slow capitulation.
If everybody is isolated and not pointed in the same direction then no great efforts can be accomplished. The problem is getting a rallying figure that will actually be able to do something meaningful about the issues we currently face.
Except when his base was actively engaged and doing damage to the establishment, the fucking CIA engaged the q anon bullshit to keep them docile. Anyone who sees circumstances changing without buckets of blood is deluding themselves.
Trump was a central figure, but he did not oppose the right issues. He thought that economy was more important than other areas, which is incorrect to some degree. He also did not come out in full support or opposition to q-anon and during his term almost entirely neglected rural white americans which were the reason he was elected at all.
Not to say that he was bad. He shows many positives towards rallying people and other caveats to consider. I think he did deserve a 2nd term and that the election was stolen from him, but he will not be the figure to give the public a call to action.
I keep seeing this data suggesting that Trump lost ground with white men, and I just don't see how it's possible. White men would not abandon Trump to vote for a political party that actively hates them. By all accounts, we had more total votes last election than in we did in 2016, so we can safely say that discouraged white voters didn't stay home. So what really happened?
I'll tell you what happened: voting machines flipped votes in primarily deep red counties because no one bothers to audit blowouts, and the demographics of these counties resulted in this strategy disproportionately flipping white male votes. That's why Trump was mysteriously down from 2016 in many deep red counties while the local ticket was way up, a phenomenon that goes directly against all established election norms.
We also saw some small counties reverse their elections after hand recounts revealed massive irregularities in favor of the Democrat candidate. I'm guessing the algorithm grabbed a few counties it wasn't supposed to and flipped too many votes. The local audits caught these "mistakes" immediately.
The new democrat government is refusing legitimate state-level audits not because they cheated in purple counties but because votes were stolen in deep red counties.
I guess I get where you're coming from except they do provide information to some people. The problem I see with these calls to action/complaints about inaction that come out every so often is I haven't really seen any of them come with a plan of action that it seems like the risk of loss matches up with a chance of success.
Essentially what I'm saying is I'm not seeing an effort called for me to join up and risk my life in a coordinated effort with a chance of success to invade the beaches Normandy. Instead it's like I'm being asked to go invade the very same scenario with a half dozen people sure to just get machine gunned down if they even manage to get their boat to the shores. At which point I'm throwing away everything to accomplish nothing.
The problem I see with these calls to action/complaints about inaction that come out every so often is I haven't really seen any of them come with a plan of action that it seems like the risk of loss matches up with a chance of success.
This is the real crux of the issue. There's no action to be had because there is no movement to join. I want to take action but I don't see what action I would take to alleviate any of the things plaguing my society, much less actions that would have a chance at succeeding.
They had a place back when there was still the possibility of a political solution to our problems. Now that there conclusively is not, I agree that it's of questionable usefulness.
Personally what I've started taking an interest in is pre-industrial methods of farming with minimal/no irrigation.
This is something that is a terrific idea in theory, but at least I am a little too..demoralized to dive into headfirst. So if you do this, would you please share some of your experiences with it here? It's a potential morale booster.
As for your actual topic, I can't say much since I have no clue who/what those names reference. I assume it's ecelebs? If it's ecelebs, then I think it might have something to do with having a person to rally behind. Sadly, not every man can be a leader, so those men have to make due with finding someone/anyone to follow.
I'm not familiar with all of them, but I know Crowder, Styx, and Tim Pool are generally free-thinker type right wing "ecelebs" as you'd call them. I hate to use the term celeb, as my mind immediately goes to worshipping the Hollywood elite. I don't mind watching Crowder from time to time as there's generally some humor and light-hearted atmosphere to go along with it. I'd almost compare it to a late night show vibe without all the indoctrination.
I'm with you thought, I'd love to hear some experiences of where to get into more local things. I've tried to up my notice and participation in local politics, but that's generally just like paying more attention to the small elections. I'm hoping to chat with some guys at the gun range (great place to talk to people that are less nuts) but beyond that kinda stuck as to local stuff.
my mind immediately goes to worshipping the Hollywood elite
That's basically my view of them, but I know it's not totally like that - just like how you can really like a certain actor because of their performances.
I feel left behind on the phenomenon, as I stopped listening to podcasts many years ago and never liked the youtube thing. I hear disturbing things about related activities, such as streamers acting as a friend simulator. Yet I can't really complain about any of it because it does seem more organic than traditional media and traditional celebrities (the introduction of endorsements and sponsorships are pulling it back towards how it used to be, though).
I get where you're coming from with that. I really only watch or listen for entertainment purposes over trying to become enlightened. I think that's why I tend to really only like Crowder as it's a little less "guy rants about politics" to pretty much just an entertaining TV show with a right wing politics topic that I can throw on during a quiet work day.
I've always been a reader myself. When it comes to gaining knowledge, I want to read it. Video is for entertainment. That even applies to how-to stuff. Ugh, not another YouTube video on how to fix something where I have to skim through 10 minutes of how to use a screwdriver and the guys rants on which screwdriver to have. Can't I just have a good old service manual?
That even applies to how-to stuff. Ugh, not another YouTube video on how to fix something where I have to skim through 10 minutes of how to use a screwdriver and the guys rants on which screwdriver to have. Can't I just have a good old service manual?
This drives me crazy, and I don't even look up maintenance stuff regularly. Just simple information you used to be able to pick up on google with some odd guy's blog, now you either got to go browse videos or hope some wiki has useful data. I definitely sympathize with anyone trying to do something a little involved, like fixing a machine (especially with how you can't just go down to radioshack for spare parts anymore).
If I'm a total novice, the lecture on tools might be useful, but what about the intermediate user? There's no index or glossary on that video. Is skipping around to random points in a video the intended experience?
We're still stuck in 2014 and think talking on hostile social media and websites will do anything. Get into local and state politics since fed levels are pozzed, start/join non-pozzed organizations, stop in fighting on the right, create your own Proud Boys/militia style group of people you can rely on for when the hammer comes all the way down, learn useful skills that were common place 100yrs ago for when they kill your bank accounts so you can still eat and have clothing, drop mild redpills to normies you know like the Times article or watch a movie like Fahrenheit 451 (1966 version) and Demolition man and make casual statements about current events that are similar or casually be reading a book about the Holodomor or other leftist atrocities and explain it with current parallels when the person becomes curious since they inevitably won't know about said atrocity (the more recent the better).
What we need is several major figures with enough capital to be impossible to cancel. To own businesses that are practically impossible to boycott and we needed them founded a decade ago. That’s one thing the left currently has on the right. Every major tech, banking, credit card, entertainment,food, store chain etc that is branched out into a multitude of different other industries than what they are known for are ran and owned by leftist. Sadly we also need to have more right wingers teaching in schools so the kids don’t become left wing zombies.
I can give Crowder credit. His investigating voter fraud, his lawsuits against social media companies, his Michigan rally, and the time that they infiltrated Antifa in Utah were worthwhile.
Sargon ran for office.
Otherwise, yeah, the rest of them basically just read news articles on youtube.
It's nice to have infotainment sometimes that isn't left, so there's that.
You should definitely get involved. I've been looking at options myself lately, but I'm not sure what really fits anymore.
*spez: Just remembered how awesome it was watching Carlso Maza lose his mind and eventually his undeserved career because Crowder made fun of him a few times. That's definitely one of the best things he's done.
Sargon's run was lolcow tier.
The smug idiot couldn't stop huffing his own farts long enough to connect with anyone but his (prior) fanbase.
I always think back to one specific interview where some lady kept going back to the "You deserve rape" comment and his ridiculously bad answers to it.
He would have easily won if he could drop the smugness for just 30 minutes to finish a TV spot.
As soon as the Brexit Party came on the stage, UKIP was doomed electorally. Carl and Markus knew that going in. Carl used it for publicity, as well as playing to his fans. That was the best that could come from it, because there was no way he or any UKIP candidate was headed to Brussels.
I like Sargon but his political bid made no sense to me. He didn't declare any positions or really seem like he even wanted to win. I'm not sure if he was going for a 'pushed forward reluctant leader' gambit or if he was just trying to self promote via provacateurism but I'm sure it's something he'd rather forget about.
Lotus eaters is excellent though
There may not be action even though people know, but there will never be action if people don’t know.
If people don't know what's going on by now, they're wilfully blind
Yeah, that's why easy times create weak men. When shit gets real, things will change. As long as we can remain relatively comfortable within the status quo, that's what the vast majority will choose.
They are anti-useful. Their entire purpose is to catch people moving from the left to the right and judo them back the other direction. They try to keep people inside the Overton window since the left controls the location of the Overton window. That is the reason people like the Weinstein brothers and Shapiro are always attacking the right from a framing that works on people on the right and moving right. Most of them are also part of the group that says whites forming groups and realizing their ethnic identity is bad, while at the same time holding two thousand year old ethnic grudges. Some of them however are just grifters looking to make a buck from the employed. (Crowder mostly)
Sino Delenda Est
so who is outside the window?
No one in the MSM or on Youtube.
So how many of your comments have been removed this past week? I didn't see any removals even with Antonio baiting you trying to get you banned. You are only outside of the Overton window in normie lands.
For that matter the backstabber won't remove anti-white hatred from Gizortnik, saying it is ok, because based black man said it. But don't you dare point out a chameleon, like Bret Weinstein, changing his colors. That gets removed.
The majority of videos of someone going completely unhinged at seeing someone without a mask on are typically women. So which is it. Women don’t care about wu flu or all evidence that points to they care too much.
Stupid argument, you don’t have to believe in a viruses lethality to be a cry bully. If the shoe was on the other foot the harpies would act in the exact same manner because it makes them feel empowered.
Not any more or less stupid than claiming half the population is immune to a virus so they are intentionally holding super spreader events
TL;DR - talk is easy, but means nothing without action. Like becoming addicted to reading self help books, because it feels like your helping yourself, when really, you're just drowning.
The IDW and the like, they are a mix of edutainment and copium. Sargon did (unsuccessfully) run for government, and did public debates on the streets. Crowder also does public street debates, and does use his lawyer, who is now spending less time on the show, because he's spending more time preparing a significant lawsuit to strike back at one of the tech companies. Crowder also can't get too excited/ stressed anymore since he has a serious heart problem. Pool & Styx are comfortable. Pool plays it up, but he's doing well for himself and is pretty safe.
There is value in what they do, but it means little because no one acts on it. This includes us. There were some successes with GG (such as FTC regulating declaring advertisements), but honestly, the opposition so far has trounced it, because they shamelessly pursue action.
People tend to want others to lead, and they'll follow. If you want something, and no one's leading it, or not doing it well enough, that means you have to. This comes with personal sacrifice. How much is the change you want worth, whether to change now, or what will be?
Most people aren't leaders though, so even if they wanted to throw their hat in the ring, they'd just botch things and make some blunder that their enemies would capitalize on to further cement power. Frankly I think the lack of individuals with capacity for leadership might be a cultural issue and an engineered one at that. In the average person's formative years, how much opportunity is there to really develop such a set of skills and how much cultural importance do we place on nurturing that? Very little I would say. Our whole public education system is designed to crank out mindless drones for the corporate world who do as they are told and learn how to do the telling or any of the associated personal development required for genuine leadership.
Some degree of central effort is needed. People need to rally behind individuals with certain values in mind. One main problem of "the right" is that it's all spread out rural with no actual communications network outside of local talk.
I don't think people like who you have named accomplish that, which is why I don't watch them. Their goal is to have a discussion and reach things through "reasonable terms" which will never happen, it will only be slow capitulation.
If everybody is isolated and not pointed in the same direction then no great efforts can be accomplished. The problem is getting a rallying figure that will actually be able to do something meaningful about the issues we currently face.
Trump though.
Except when his base was actively engaged and doing damage to the establishment, the fucking CIA engaged the q anon bullshit to keep them docile. Anyone who sees circumstances changing without buckets of blood is deluding themselves.
Trump was a central figure, but he did not oppose the right issues. He thought that economy was more important than other areas, which is incorrect to some degree. He also did not come out in full support or opposition to q-anon and during his term almost entirely neglected rural white americans which were the reason he was elected at all.
Not to say that he was bad. He shows many positives towards rallying people and other caveats to consider. I think he did deserve a 2nd term and that the election was stolen from him, but he will not be the figure to give the public a call to action.
I keep seeing this data suggesting that Trump lost ground with white men, and I just don't see how it's possible. White men would not abandon Trump to vote for a political party that actively hates them. By all accounts, we had more total votes last election than in we did in 2016, so we can safely say that discouraged white voters didn't stay home. So what really happened?
I'll tell you what happened: voting machines flipped votes in primarily deep red counties because no one bothers to audit blowouts, and the demographics of these counties resulted in this strategy disproportionately flipping white male votes. That's why Trump was mysteriously down from 2016 in many deep red counties while the local ticket was way up, a phenomenon that goes directly against all established election norms.
We also saw some small counties reverse their elections after hand recounts revealed massive irregularities in favor of the Democrat candidate. I'm guessing the algorithm grabbed a few counties it wasn't supposed to and flipped too many votes. The local audits caught these "mistakes" immediately.
The new democrat government is refusing legitimate state-level audits not because they cheated in purple counties but because votes were stolen in deep red counties.
I guess I get where you're coming from except they do provide information to some people. The problem I see with these calls to action/complaints about inaction that come out every so often is I haven't really seen any of them come with a plan of action that it seems like the risk of loss matches up with a chance of success.
Essentially what I'm saying is I'm not seeing an effort called for me to join up and risk my life in a coordinated effort with a chance of success to invade the beaches Normandy. Instead it's like I'm being asked to go invade the very same scenario with a half dozen people sure to just get machine gunned down if they even manage to get their boat to the shores. At which point I'm throwing away everything to accomplish nothing.
This is the real crux of the issue. There's no action to be had because there is no movement to join. I want to take action but I don't see what action I would take to alleviate any of the things plaguing my society, much less actions that would have a chance at succeeding.
I'm with you 100%
I've been hoping that naming the demon would be enough to change culture but I've lost hope of that.
You're supposed to take the information they give you and act on it, same as the left.
They had a place back when there was still the possibility of a political solution to our problems. Now that there conclusively is not, I agree that it's of questionable usefulness.
Personally what I've started taking an interest in is pre-industrial methods of farming with minimal/no irrigation.
This is something that is a terrific idea in theory, but at least I am a little too..demoralized to dive into headfirst. So if you do this, would you please share some of your experiences with it here? It's a potential morale booster.
As for your actual topic, I can't say much since I have no clue who/what those names reference. I assume it's ecelebs? If it's ecelebs, then I think it might have something to do with having a person to rally behind. Sadly, not every man can be a leader, so those men have to make due with finding someone/anyone to follow.
I'm not familiar with all of them, but I know Crowder, Styx, and Tim Pool are generally free-thinker type right wing "ecelebs" as you'd call them. I hate to use the term celeb, as my mind immediately goes to worshipping the Hollywood elite. I don't mind watching Crowder from time to time as there's generally some humor and light-hearted atmosphere to go along with it. I'd almost compare it to a late night show vibe without all the indoctrination.
I'm with you thought, I'd love to hear some experiences of where to get into more local things. I've tried to up my notice and participation in local politics, but that's generally just like paying more attention to the small elections. I'm hoping to chat with some guys at the gun range (great place to talk to people that are less nuts) but beyond that kinda stuck as to local stuff.
That's basically my view of them, but I know it's not totally like that - just like how you can really like a certain actor because of their performances.
I feel left behind on the phenomenon, as I stopped listening to podcasts many years ago and never liked the youtube thing. I hear disturbing things about related activities, such as streamers acting as a friend simulator. Yet I can't really complain about any of it because it does seem more organic than traditional media and traditional celebrities (the introduction of endorsements and sponsorships are pulling it back towards how it used to be, though).
I get where you're coming from with that. I really only watch or listen for entertainment purposes over trying to become enlightened. I think that's why I tend to really only like Crowder as it's a little less "guy rants about politics" to pretty much just an entertaining TV show with a right wing politics topic that I can throw on during a quiet work day.
I've always been a reader myself. When it comes to gaining knowledge, I want to read it. Video is for entertainment. That even applies to how-to stuff. Ugh, not another YouTube video on how to fix something where I have to skim through 10 minutes of how to use a screwdriver and the guys rants on which screwdriver to have. Can't I just have a good old service manual?
This drives me crazy, and I don't even look up maintenance stuff regularly. Just simple information you used to be able to pick up on google with some odd guy's blog, now you either got to go browse videos or hope some wiki has useful data. I definitely sympathize with anyone trying to do something a little involved, like fixing a machine (especially with how you can't just go down to radioshack for spare parts anymore).
If I'm a total novice, the lecture on tools might be useful, but what about the intermediate user? There's no index or glossary on that video. Is skipping around to random points in a video the intended experience?
I have all this info, I've been able to give info to friends who were willing to listen, at this point I'm just focusing on getting in shape.
We're still stuck in 2014 and think talking on hostile social media and websites will do anything. Get into local and state politics since fed levels are pozzed, start/join non-pozzed organizations, stop in fighting on the right, create your own Proud Boys/militia style group of people you can rely on for when the hammer comes all the way down, learn useful skills that were common place 100yrs ago for when they kill your bank accounts so you can still eat and have clothing, drop mild redpills to normies you know like the Times article or watch a movie like Fahrenheit 451 (1966 version) and Demolition man and make casual statements about current events that are similar or casually be reading a book about the Holodomor or other leftist atrocities and explain it with current parallels when the person becomes curious since they inevitably won't know about said atrocity (the more recent the better).
What we need is several major figures with enough capital to be impossible to cancel. To own businesses that are practically impossible to boycott and we needed them founded a decade ago. That’s one thing the left currently has on the right. Every major tech, banking, credit card, entertainment,food, store chain etc that is branched out into a multitude of different other industries than what they are known for are ran and owned by leftist. Sadly we also need to have more right wingers teaching in schools so the kids don’t become left wing zombies.
KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE!
https://communities.win/c/Funny/p/12hRV4uuUk/x/c/
COOL! WHAT'S THE OTHER HALF?
https://communities.win/c/TheDonald/p/12hRV65Eco/-we-uh-dont-talk-about-that-here/c/
To be aware of a problem is necessary before taking action to fix it.