"Fact" one is an axiom, and "facts" three and four are moral pronouncements. None of which depend on the correctness of "fact" two.
Even if the ACLU accepted that "fact" two was false it would have no effect on the validity or invalidity of the other statements, because they aren't dependent on the correctness of "fact" two.
"Fact" 3, like "fact" 2, is objectively false. The bio girls who lose or drop in placing because of the men involved don't benefit, they clearly and undeniably suffer.
1 and 4 are simply opinions, which one could have regardless of any actual facts.
This is true. By the very same logic some women outperform some men in sports and therefore men do not have an advantage over women. Ignore the fact that those women are at the very top of their bell curve and the men are at the very bottom of theirs. Segregation in current year? Defund all women sports!
How do we know they were any different in the 1960s? The same media who sings their praises now was singing them in the 1960s, with more gatekeeping and less competition and citizen journalism than today.
Oh they were the same type people that want to enforce their ideology on everybody else, but back then there were actually some things that were unfair and systemic.
For instance in 1970s Trump housing was renting to blacks as required by law, but what the suit was actually about was taking in indigent welfare recipients who couldn't afford to rent and then not letting them be evicted. For example the other housing guy consented to renting to people where rent was 90%+ of their income. Those suits were never about race, always about warping society to their views.
Biology seems to be the dividing line between hard and soft sciences, the latter of which is disconnected enough from material feedback that reality becomes irrelevant to it's conclusions. Progressives fail hardest at biology. See also: Lysenkoism
They're still trying even in the ultra hard world of mathematics. There's a faction of the CRT loons straight faced trying to insist that "2+2=5" and using all sorts of lazy semantic games to "make" it true.
I'm always ready to be proven wrong, but I doubt anyone is going to seriously use such math in the real world for obvious reasons; although, Virgin may be using it for rocket science.
FACT: Trans women are women. Therefore FACT: Trans women are included in the bell curve of women's skills since they are women. Therefore FACT: Trans women fall into the bell curve of women's skills that includes them.
Boom, DESTROYED with FACTS and LOGIC.
Now let's get rid of all women's, and men's, sports leagues and make an Equal free-for-all league that isn't divided by patrionormative cis-heterarchy. And if there isn't equal representation on the teams, both in number count and active field hours count, sue 'em! Sue 'em! I want to see football waifs alongside meat titans, being tackled in equality!
I'm sure they are wondering why I stopped giving them money long ago. Oh wait, they get a shit ton of woke money these days. Well that is probably starting to dry off after Trump left office.
tbh guys who become trans are absolute pussies so that usually don't have an advantage, its only the alphas who turn into a chick to win who are douches
Yeah there are quite a few examples at the high school level. The two track runners in CT that were middling boys runners and became state champion female runners come to mind.
Or for "high school level", you can take the fact the women's olympic hockey team practices against high school boys, and they're one of the teams favored to win every year.
I wonder if the male olympic hockey team practiced near exclusively against highschool boys, if they would have the same anticipated win rate.
I am increasingly coming to the conclusion that they will not stop peddling this insanity until things escalate to the level of fedposting. These people are figuratively (and in some cases literally) a hysterical woman that needs to be slapped across the face.
Archive of their awful thread: https://archive.is/9FlBq
FACT ONE: Trans girls are girls.
FACT TWO: Trans athletes do not have an unfair advantage in sports.
FACT THREE: Including trans athletes will benefit everyone.
[citation needed]
FACT FOUR: Trans people belong on the same teams as other students.
So I now must demand all you transphobic bigots stop, you've been shown UNDENIABLE PROOF.
https://twitter.com/Lauren_Southern/status/1357319617295781889
"Fact" one is an axiom, and "facts" three and four are moral pronouncements. None of which depend on the correctness of "fact" two.
Even if the ACLU accepted that "fact" two was false it would have no effect on the validity or invalidity of the other statements, because they aren't dependent on the correctness of "fact" two.
"Fact" 3, like "fact" 2, is objectively false. The bio girls who lose or drop in placing because of the men involved don't benefit, they clearly and undeniably suffer.
1 and 4 are simply opinions, which one could have regardless of any actual facts.
1 is objectively false as well. Definitions can not be altered to mean whatever the speaker wishes them to mean.
Now try proving that in a courtroom.
Unless the judge was a hateful bigot, how could they disagree?
This court requires you to announce your pronouns, xir.
We should then remove all gendered everything. No affirmative action, no quota's no nothing.
This is true. By the very same logic some women outperform some men in sports and therefore men do not have an advantage over women. Ignore the fact that those women are at the very top of their bell curve and the men are at the very bottom of theirs. Segregation in current year? Defund all women sports!
1960s ACLU: American Civil Liberties Union
2000s ACLU: Anti-Civil Liberties Union
They thought they were so sneaky by keeping the same acronym, maybe we should refer to them as A-CLU to make it clear which one we're talking about.
How do we know they were any different in the 1960s? The same media who sings their praises now was singing them in the 1960s, with more gatekeeping and less competition and citizen journalism than today.
Oh they were the same type people that want to enforce their ideology on everybody else, but back then there were actually some things that were unfair and systemic.
For instance in 1970s Trump housing was renting to blacks as required by law, but what the suit was actually about was taking in indigent welfare recipients who couldn't afford to rent and then not letting them be evicted. For example the other housing guy consented to renting to people where rent was 90%+ of their income. Those suits were never about race, always about warping society to their views.
Oh you mean, it was once again about class, which has always been the most important struggle and not race.
Wish the modern left could understand that!
In 1978, the ACLU defended literal neo-Nazis in court that wanted to march through a Chicago suburb where many Holocaust survivors lived.
Now they explicitly refuse to help defend the 1st Amendment if anyone in the group uses their 2nd.
Sounds like a "when I am weak I ask for freedom because that is according to your principles" situation.
How does that precedent help us against for example the FBI arresting people for "election interference" for posing memes on twitter?
Remind me again, why am I supposed to trust a bunch of political activists on matters of human biology?
Because they will do everything in their power to destroy you if you don't.
Biology seems to be the dividing line between hard and soft sciences, the latter of which is disconnected enough from material feedback that reality becomes irrelevant to it's conclusions. Progressives fail hardest at biology. See also: Lysenkoism
They're still trying even in the ultra hard world of mathematics. There's a faction of the CRT loons straight faced trying to insist that "2+2=5" and using all sorts of lazy semantic games to "make" it true.
It's just sad.
I'm always ready to be proven wrong, but I doubt anyone is going to seriously use such math in the real world for obvious reasons; although, Virgin may be using it for rocket science.
And it starts with the entire "Brotherhood of Man" bullshit myth.
If girls are boys and boys are girls then all laws that prefer any gender are unlawful and must be banned.
Child support for women? Illegal. Welfare for single mothers? Illegal. Paternity leave. Illegal.
https://twitter.com/AbigailShrier/status/1357072532717768704
FACT: Trans women are women. Therefore FACT: Trans women are included in the bell curve of women's skills since they are women. Therefore FACT: Trans women fall into the bell curve of women's skills that includes them.
Boom, DESTROYED with FACTS and LOGIC.
Now let's get rid of all women's, and men's, sports leagues and make an Equal free-for-all league that isn't divided by patrionormative cis-heterarchy. And if there isn't equal representation on the teams, both in number count and active field hours count, sue 'em! Sue 'em! I want to see football waifs alongside meat titans, being tackled in equality!
I'm sure they are wondering why I stopped giving them money long ago. Oh wait, they get a shit ton of woke money these days. Well that is probably starting to dry off after Trump left office.
tbh guys who become trans are absolute pussies so that usually don't have an advantage, its only the alphas who turn into a chick to win who are douches
Oh they definitely do have an advantage. An unexceptional man will still be bigger faster and stronger than an exceptional woman.
Yeah there are quite a few examples at the high school level. The two track runners in CT that were middling boys runners and became state champion female runners come to mind.
Or for "high school level", you can take the fact the women's olympic hockey team practices against high school boys, and they're one of the teams favored to win every year.
I wonder if the male olympic hockey team practiced near exclusively against highschool boys, if they would have the same anticipated win rate.
Yep. In that vein; boys under 15 teams regularly beat women's world cup soccer teams.
true misogynists and schizos will do this just to pown women. they cook this stew they eat it.
I am increasingly coming to the conclusion that they will not stop peddling this insanity until things escalate to the level of fedposting. These people are figuratively (and in some cases literally) a hysterical woman that needs to be slapped across the face.