I know this must seem like a really a stupid question for those with the necessary background knowledge but I've been trying to figure it out for a while.
Update: I get it now! KIA2 is KIA with blackjack and hookers.
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one is modded by trannies, the other is modded by faggots, we prefer the faggots
Aren't most trannies faggots though?
"Are traps gay": the eternal question
Yes. traps are gay. A feminized male is still a male. I'm convinced that people who like traps are just gay/bisexual but in denial.
Liking a trap on a surface level isn't gay, otherwise it wouldn't be much of a trap.
Liking a trap knowingly is unquestionably gay.
Only if they know they are traps. The point of a good trap is you do not see it, it is camoflagued.
Like, if an anime design is blatantly a woman, 100%, female voice, female outfit, head design, body design, eyes, all of it, but they go "oh yeah, on the bio, apparently this character has a dick", and you didn't bother to read the bios, then you're just attracted to women, and it is a "successful" trap.
If they SEEK it, though, then yeah, they're bisexual.
Liking traps is bisexual. Traps themselves could be gay, straight, or bisexual, depending on their motivations for putting on those... trappings.
I’m openly bi and like traps. I think it’s more a default preference for feminine characteristics.
I can't give you a straight answer on that one.
Not if you’re on top.
Only if the grundals touch.
If it looks like a duck
Acts like a duck
Can deepthroat like a duck
Then it’s not gay....
Which one turned out to be a tranny?
Tinkerbell was it?
Or whatever the fuck its name was, i distinctly remember them simping for a tranny that they claimed was super MAGA but was really one of the main ones pushing censorship.
Yep, "she" hated me something fierce. I've always suspected that one to be a tranny.
Also, way way waaaaay back there was one called something... meow? Meow something something. That one was a tranny for sure, everyone was all UWU because it tried killing itself at some point (surprise?), then of course it went nutso and started hating GG and all of us. Mentally unstable duderino.
Meowsticgoesnya
Big attention whore, liked to talk about being trans, threw a fit because nobody likes an attention whore.
Got pretty vindictive about not being accepted as GG's animu princess UWU waifu.
It tells you how these people think women are. It's one big hentai-fuelled glitter puke. Even the women known for that image are not really like that, it's just an online persona, but they don't understand that.
I was asking because of "her" specifically. I always had a feeling pink had a bit more penis than the average female. Also had it in for me super bad, then when I snapped back the whole team of simps descended in private telling me they "expected better" from me.
Pink and Shadist were the absolute worst.
Let's not mince words, they were outright enemies of the community.
Shad is one of the most petty, pathetic individuals I've ever run across on the Internet. I've been on the Internet since the early '90s.
Let that sink in.
Shad was the asshole who acted like a smug prick and thought he was always right, right?
My big conflict with her was that I used the real name of Jonathan Yaniv. No joke, it's apparently horrible to "deadname" a guy who talked about inspecting the genitals of children in a public bathroom, claiming it was to help them.
At that point I was so angry I could have screamed.
I felt like I have no place in a space where literal, admitted pedophiles are protected by the mods because muh dead name. When kids are involved, I am basically at the point where adult bullshit doesn't matter. I don't care if your trans gay vegan Marxist whatever feelings get hurt, I would rather all snowflakes be burned alive over children being hurt.
Probably very mother hen of me, but I lost my shit big time.
She bitched at me in such a condescending, cunty way. If you say "hey, admins being cunts" then I would have been pissed still, but like... ya know. But to act personally offended by me saying it, I was like bitch, you totally agree with this.
(I have gotten a one week suspension on some other sub way back for something equally stupid. The mod there said she got my point, but I couldn't state it because it was against sitewide rules to use the analogy I used. I told her I won't change my comment and I am 100% fine with the punishment. No hard feelings were had.)
In the original KiA, mods lost a vote about making posting rules far more restrictive. The response to this was to ... disregard the vote and carry on as if the mods' preferred option had won. This lead to one of the quite active KiA posters resurrecting a sub he'd set aside when the david-me fiasco started, KiA2, which was intended to keep as close to the original rules as Reddit sitewide rules would allow.
I'm not actually banned from KiA but honestly, it's a sterile, dull place in comparison and very little there sparks any interest for me.
That's a huge part of it, but it went beyond that. One other big issue was that the rules were inconsistently and ideologically applied. No one likes the mods' new rules, but then they weren't even applied sensibly. Very obviously on-topic things were deleted by the mods, because they disagreed politically. KiA1 became a "free speech" forum where we didn't have free speech. And if you complained, even politely, the mods lost their shit and actually called you names and worse. It became a very hostile place.
Another great illustration of the problems of KiA1 vs 2 is, KiA2 has 2-6 mods, KiA1 had like 20, or whatever. KiA1 is moderated by cultists.
Also the outright hostility certain mods showed when interacting with regular posters who called them out on their double standards. To call the behavior "antagonistic" is an understatement.
And then the other mods would come in and circlejerk with them in the thread to boot.
It was kind of fun arguing with Shadist. His arguments never had any legs to stand on, but he'd act like he was right purely because he had the power. I'm shocked he never outright banned me for challenging him. I guess he was smart enough to realize martyring someone who has called out your ability to silence opposition wouldn't be a good look.
The absolute best was that little "reformation period" they had where supposedly they were going to apply their rules more fairly, they had a talk with Shadist and he was going to stop insulting people, and a couple other bullshit claims.
Then you scroll down and in that same goddamn megathread just a few hours later you had Shadist insulting people and the mods dogpiling people for saying that they didn't believe them.
Multiple times, it never stopped being funny.
Shit, i think one of them came here and tried acting nice but its like... really nigga?
Auron was one of the few respectable mods but i don't know if he still is... he was a lefty faggot but he was at least cool most of the time.
I remember when one of them came in saying they'd "let us back into their community" or some shit, acting like they were doing us a favor.
The unanimous response telling them to eat shit was hilarious.
that only happened because their page usage slowed to a snails pace and KiA2 fully overtook them in raw numbers and usage.
Auron is no longer a mod after he called them all out on more bullshit. He's been posting on Reddit KIA2 off and on.
I saw that he became a mod of another sub called r/SocialJusticeInAction
Pepperidge Farm remembers!
Agreed. That was the final recognition that KiA mods appeared to be of the opinion that they'd grown beyond the userbase.
Because ones run by censorship happy faggots and the real one is run by normal faggots.
The mods of the reddit version? Or the mods who run the .win version? Or are they the same people?
Same people.
KiA2 Reddit and KiA2 .Win are the same... but they lets us say Faggots here :)
Simply, old KIA is a bunch of leftists who didn't like to have their video games interfered with, they didn't seem to care about anything outside of the narrow parameter that they set. Many of them couldn't tolerate anything popping up that went against their beliefs, so they censored much of that stuff. KIA2 has a wider scope, where all things surrounding the culture war can be discussed without censorship, and I'd argue that we're probably more right wing, or at least have more right wing people in our community.
I remember being a minority right-winger on old KIA and not really having any issues until the censoring started. That's how it always goes, innit?
Both kia1 and kia2 were originally one reddit community.
Kia and kia2 separated a while ago when the mods of kia1 turned into full-blown tranny jannies.
Then for some reason when the r/the_donald migration to thedonald.win stuff happened they never bothered to get the kia1 domain secured, so now we're kia2 on here too.
I don't think Dom or Tony wanted the KiA1 domain here on .win.
I don't think they should have, either. Get's even more confusing if sometimes our community is KiA2, sometimes it's just KiA. For better or worse, the split happened. We are KiA2 now, not KiA. Consistency helps. Fuck KiA1, it had its golden age, and then fell to the cultists. KiA1 is dead, long live KiA2.
Repeated rebranding was something early anti-GGers kept trying to push as a means to get rid of things. Maintaining the same banner regardless of whether a previously used one becomes available again prevents confusion from happening amongst other things.
i.e. Splitting from KiA to form KiA2 and keeping KiA2 even if the option to use KiA ever happens.
Not only does it keep things consistent and less complicated, it means less chance of false flags caused by the new brand being used once a reversion has occurred to a previous one.
E.g. Trying to use KiA.win would mean KiA2.win was possibly up for grabs. Anyone wanting to cause drama could then pretend to be 2 or just honeypot it.
I would have seconded it, but by the time I heard about the move here, the names were set in stone. Not very happy about there being no discussion/vote over the name, but at least we have a place to talk here.
KiA2 still has that link though, an unbroken chain from the beginning of Gamergate, through the schism and now into our own free speech platform. This way were recognisable not only to our enemies but those who may have heard KiA or even curious as to why theres 2 of them like OP
A rebranding may have muddied the waters
Probably too busy trying to shove any criticism of them, r/kia mod abuse and their own ongoing fellatio of r/kia mods into kiameta under some thinly layered BS excuse of "negotiations".
Or, perhaps, viewed it as a move that would be taken as openly antagonistic with a bunch of KiA mods who are just looking for an excuse to try and get KiA2 on Reddit - still the bigger community - shut down?
Yeah just never even attempt to fight back, what could go wrong. On a totally unrelated note, why is everybody suddenly speaking Chinese?
Short Answer: Mod-induced split in the community, with KiA2 being more open to broader content.
Long Answer: Back on Reddit there was the original KiA and we were one big dysfunctional family. The mods kept cracking down on the sub with more and more restrictive (and arbitrarily implemented) rules. Eventually they put a vote to the community on a making one of the rules more restrictive. The community told them to stuff it, and they said "No, fuck you" and went ahead with clamping down anyway. A lot of us didn't like that, so there was a split that created KiA2, with blackjack and hookers. KiA2 was known for being more liberal with the content allowed, which, in turn, got us branded as being a haven for lots of "undesirable" posters that would have been banned out of existence on half-KiA. Not too long after that, T_D got banned off of Reddit and we saw the writing on the wall. We created the lifeboat over here, and we've remained more active on the .win side.
We get this question a lot, I'll copy-paste my answer from last time. I'm happy to have people come and ask, hopefully you'll stick around some.
Over on reddit the mods of the original KiA became very censorious and pushed a lot of rule changes that no one wanted (They even had points where they had votes on rule changes, then did what they wanted anyways when the userbase voted overwhelmingly against them). This resulted in a lot of talk regarding politics and SJWs in gaming and nerd culture being banned, despite being very much on topic. Different people put forward different reasons for them doing this, I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was because they were scared of getting shut down, but it seemed very power-hungry and very sketchy.
This caused a schism and KiA2 was made in an attempt to be less censorious. This schism lasted over to the .win sites when KiA1 mods made their own and we made our own. I don't go over to that one, but I assume many of the rules carried over from the KiA1 subreddit and it's probably dead. KiA2 tends to err on the side of fewer rules (Which I prefer), with much more talk about a wider range of nerd-culture adjacent subjects.
Well, you're not wrong ... KiA1.win still has a six-month-old "TEMPORARY" rule thread pinned and the "new" tab reads, in order: 3 days, 7 days, 9 days, 11 days, 11 days, 13 days, 16 days, 19 days, 23, 24, 29 and then it goes into "months" old. Just 11 of anything submitted in the last month.
It's because of a split in the first KiA community on Reddit when the mods forced a rule change through against an over-whelming opposition from its active user base. This gave rise to KiA2 on Reddit which moved to go more along the classic lines of rules for posts vs what KiA moderators forced into existence.
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A few years ago, the mods in the original KIA were corrupted by the same shit infecting everything on reddit. They started deleting posts not directly linked to gaming and unethical games journalism despite the evidence that GamerGate was just a single front on a much larger problem.
A lot of users wanted more relaxed posting guidelines in order to discuss similar topics in tangentially related fields (comics, mainstream media, twitter drama etc) we even held a vote and won, resulting in the pissbaby mods unanimously just decided to ignore what users wanted and go with their plan anyway
So we built KIA2: Electric Boogaloo, and as it stands now, our new sub has 4 times the traffic and userbase as the original.
Aren't there at least three?