you are not wrong for calling it out, doesnt matter here, but damn, we are getting win after win.
use your precious time to give positive feedback, even if it is only a tryhard grifter.
At what point does a native people become native? Anglo Saxons aren’t native to England. Japanese aren’t native to Japan. Everyone crossed some river or ocean at some point.
I guess my question is when do we become native of our lands? 1 generation? 100 years? 200?
I’m as native an American as some reservation dweller alcoholic.
It can become very convoluted, but suggesting Americans aren’t native to a land they’ve tamed for hundreds of years is a retarded take. Every nation has displaced another group of people. Everywhere. It’s not unique.
It's purely a function of not being white. White people just sort of materialized from the Warp and exist as manifestations of evil that can never be native to anywhere as far as leftists are concerned.
T_T im not going to lie, i actually dont know what he is trying to say, prolly because I need to see the entire comment chain and I am retarded. But the term native american is legal jargon and native isnt defined by originating here. If that was the case than supposedly were all natives of africa.
“Native” vs. “Indigenous”
Native American is a legal/official term used by the U.S. government to describe federally recognized tribes. The word itself was imported from English; it isn’t an original tribal name.
Indigenous peoples, in their own terms, identify as First Nations, Aboriginal, Tribal, etc. They are indigenous because they have lived on those lands for millennia and had social‑political systems before Europeans arrived.
Interestingly, there is a conspiracy over the original meaning of the word of America. Although mainstream says its most likely belongs to a italian explorer, Amerigo Vespucci.
“Amaruca” (also rendered as Amaruqa or Amoroca) is an ancient Quechua‑derived name that literally means “Land of the Plumed Serpents.” The term combines amaru, meaning “serpent” or “snake,” and -qaqa/–qha (often interpreted as a locative suffix), giving a sense of “place of” or “land where.” In many Andean traditions, serpents—especially those adorned with feathers or considered divine—are powerful symbols associated with fertility, water, the underworld, and celestial realms. Thus, “Amaruca” evokes a mythical or sacred territory inhabited by these feathered, winged reptiles, reflecting both cosmological beliefs and the rich iconography of pre‑Hispanic cultures in the high Andes.
Like if your canadian then your excluded, I dont know what they teach you about indians in school but I doubt its much.
For my fellow americans, what the fuck do they teach in history these days? Are you guys just like sleeping in the back of the class like alot of my classmates were in the 90's?
Did we all forget what the fuck the trail of tears was. You know sometimes I think maybe tecumsech shoulda been born a decade or two earlier. We really dont deserve this country lmao.
Reminder that leftist logic literally boils down to being mentally children. “Native American, Indigenous American, etc” and the whole “stolen land” bullshit is “we were here first so we deserve it in perpetuity because you’re mean”. This is also after completely scrubbing the history of “natives” to perpetual victimhood and noble savages. This is how we get the Disney Pocahontas versus the reality when the governor was skinned alive by tribeswomen when he tried pleading for aid.
This is how we get the Disney Pocahontas versus the reality when the governor was skinned alive by tribeswomen when he tried pleading for aid.
Its funny because the Left hates it for correctly portraying that the Injuns weren't just happy noble victims but actively engaging in the same human propensity for paranoia, violence and evil back towards the Whites, and the Right hates it for whitewashing just how violent and evil they actually were.
Its really such a hard spot to be in for the movie.
You cant just claim the injuns skinned the governor alive and not drop any source material. Chat gpt claims.
There isn’t any documented case of an actual colonial governor being skinned alive by indigenous women in the early days of English or other European colonization of North America. The stories that circulate online are almost all apocryphal, often derived from 19th‑century sensationalist accounts or later fictional works.
And disney painting something in a cute innocent light? Say it aint so! I doubt it had anything to do with their brand and target audience. I always thought it was funny how fairys were depicted as cute tiny little things when the reality is they were often blamed for stealing children and eating them.
But let me ask you something, the indians did some bad shit, but do you really believe the other side was innocent in what they did? There was a reason that our government wants to hide these stories. And its not because they are trying to make the indians look good.
Im going to keep reading, but ive yet to find the original account of this. According to that reddit thread, it was retribution for kidnapping and holding the chiefs kids hostage. :shrugs:
Like I said before there were hundreds of different tribes/nations. They all had different beliefs. Some tribes would have ate him prolly.
Lol for something that supposedly happened its hard to find any references to it. I found this?
So Ratcliffe was removed, and smith became president.
This was the condition of affairs at jamestown when in may, 1610, one whole year after leaving England, Gates and Somers arrived there. Of four hundred colonists, no more than sixty were alive. Gates were thrown down, ports flung open, houses in ruins. Even the palisade had been burned for firewood.
He found jamestown in a most wretched state. The colonists had killed and eaten all their live stock, even to the horses; the country round had been swept clean; the indians were hostile; and gaunt want seemed stalking only one step behind them.
Sounds bleak.
Yep, all I could really find was the "great" massacre, where the indians actually slaughtered about 300 some colonialist because they, the colonialist wanted the lands to grow tobacco on. Most of them died from starvation though, not indian attacks.
Both sides were full of shitheads, no doubt.
Apparently pocahontas did warn the main jamestown settlement about the impending attack, but the other settlements werent so lucky...
John Ratcliffe died in December 1609 during the "starving time" in Jamestown, Virginia, after being captured and tortured by the Pamunkey Native Americans. He was invited to a gathering with the tribe, where he and 14 to 25 fellow colonists were ambushed under the pretense of a trade for corn. While most of the men were killed, Ratcliffe was taken alive and subjected to a particularly gruesome execution. He was tied to a stake in front of a fire, and women of the tribe scraped his flesh from his bones using mussel shells, tossing the pieces into the flames as he watched. His face was skinned last, and he was then burned at the stake. This account is documented in an eyewitness report by Captain George Percy, which was later recorded in historical texts
It must really suck being a retarded gay communist
I've been summoned. Actually I was going through some personal shit for a while so pulled back from shitposting to re-center myself, as gay as that sounds, but also twitter became a lot more free so I've been pushing overton there.
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First it was the Lefties saying we couldn't call them Indians anymore, and now its the Right saying we can't call them Native Americans anymore.
Can we all just stop pretending to care about these nearly extinct people and the word game nonsense everyone seems to be obsessed with around them? They get more mention by people trying to score cheap useless points like this than an amount of them that actually exist anymore.
Nobody cares about them unless its time to virtue signal in either direction.
They still have reservations and territory granted to them. They still make demands of our politicians and make demonstrations, both in the US but especially in Canada. Until all these privileges are stripped away from them and they are treated like every other citizen, I welcome any discussion questioning their legitimacy.
Erm technically you weren't here first you came across the land bridge and it wasn't called America then anyway so checkmate your name is wrong so we are undoing all that.
If that's your problem, that's a legitimate problem. But pussyfooting around with these word games is completely useless to solving it, its just grifting to get easily led retards to say "UM BASED?!!" at you and then repeat it elsewhere. Its debate club nonsense based on technicalities that mean nothing beyond jerking off on how smart you are.
The question of whether this land actually "belongs" to them. If Americans and Canadians whose families have lived here for centuries become considered as "indigenous" and "native" to North America, then it removes all claims that current "Native Americans" have over their lands, and removes the justification for their privileges of tax-free havens and not having to work. I support the vast majority of overtures in shifting the Overton window in that direction on this issue.
The question of whether this land actually "belongs" to them.
It doesn't, they were conquered and lost. Anything they have was an act of mercy well above the norm for most of human history. That's the shift you should be pushing at, same with niggers and slavery who got the sweetest deal possible compared to all non-white slave owners.
Their havens are dwindling due to that lack of work driving them into drugs and suicide constantly, and they aren't being replaced. The people causing you problems are those who left such shitholes and are using Identity Politics to be more equal than others to get their way, and is a problem that cannot be solved at the branch but needs to be taken out from the root.
I don't disagree with anything you said, though? I always considered it unusually generous to grant them so many reserves and so much land, and I always felt disgust at their utter ungratefulness and gall to still demand more. Removing their privileges and simply acknowledging them as the conquered people that they are, is also in the direction of the shift I want to see in the Overton window. Why are you acting as if Walsh's comments here are a step back? He simply did not go as far as we would want him to be, but it's still a step in the right direction. The moment it becomes mainstream to ask if they are the only people who legitimately deserve the title of "Native", people will start questioning the legitimacy of "Native people's" claim over it as well.
Why are you acting as if Walsh's comments here are a step back?
I'm not. I'm pointing out that its a waste of time from a talking head trying to score clickbait points on meaningless controversy. Its using technicalities to argue something that nobody will change their mind over on technicalities. People know what the Injuns are, and calling them something else won't change the emotional manipulation they are capable of and the history people were taught about them.
You aren't moving in the right direction to fix the problem anymore than they fixed the problem on their end by making people call them Native Americans in the first place.
You are giving him the most charitable interpretation of this action possible, bordering on utopian, while I'm pointing out that its such a worthless little action that the time spent on doing it is more wasted than its possible gain compared to actively saying the things you have said here.
-The dipshit who came up with “woke right”.
jews are racist inbred goblins who all deserve to be impaled
you are not wrong for calling it out, doesnt matter here, but damn, we are getting win after win. use your precious time to give positive feedback, even if it is only a tryhard grifter.
wait, i thought he was a sociologist? dipshit word games is 90% of what they do.
No, he's a math PhD.
The guy who was 100% right that the Christcuck vermin would very quickly become as bad as, if not worse than, the SJWs.
Stop Digital ID Dictatorship! Reject Project 2025.
Poland is a country that I consider to be doing well on the face of the globalist driven wave of immigration and cultural erasure.
They are very Christian indeed, and they don't think much of Jews either.
Point to a culture that is doing better.
Let the record show that if I were a mod here, my very first action would be to ban YOU.
Proving my point perfectly.
Anaconda.
That and they aren't native to fuck all lol. They migrated here across the land bridge.
We should start calling injuns "Asian migrants".
Feather adjacent Asians?
At what point does a native people become native? Anglo Saxons aren’t native to England. Japanese aren’t native to Japan. Everyone crossed some river or ocean at some point.
I guess my question is when do we become native of our lands? 1 generation? 100 years? 200?
I’m as native an American as some reservation dweller alcoholic.
It can become very convoluted, but suggesting Americans aren’t native to a land they’ve tamed for hundreds of years is a retarded take. Every nation has displaced another group of people. Everywhere. It’s not unique.
It's purely a function of not being white. White people just sort of materialized from the Warp and exist as manifestations of evil that can never be native to anywhere as far as leftists are concerned.
I'm Mesopotamian, clearly. Well, that's actually pretty recent. I'm actually Pangaean.
T_T im not going to lie, i actually dont know what he is trying to say, prolly because I need to see the entire comment chain and I am retarded. But the term native american is legal jargon and native isnt defined by originating here. If that was the case than supposedly were all natives of africa.
Interestingly, there is a conspiracy over the original meaning of the word of America. Although mainstream says its most likely belongs to a italian explorer, Amerigo Vespucci.
Like if your canadian then your excluded, I dont know what they teach you about indians in school but I doubt its much.
For my fellow americans, what the fuck do they teach in history these days? Are you guys just like sleeping in the back of the class like alot of my classmates were in the 90's?
Did we all forget what the fuck the trail of tears was. You know sometimes I think maybe tecumsech shoulda been born a decade or two earlier. We really dont deserve this country lmao.
Reminder that leftist logic literally boils down to being mentally children. “Native American, Indigenous American, etc” and the whole “stolen land” bullshit is “we were here first so we deserve it in perpetuity because you’re mean”. This is also after completely scrubbing the history of “natives” to perpetual victimhood and noble savages. This is how we get the Disney Pocahontas versus the reality when the governor was skinned alive by tribeswomen when he tried pleading for aid.
Its funny because the Left hates it for correctly portraying that the Injuns weren't just happy noble victims but actively engaging in the same human propensity for paranoia, violence and evil back towards the Whites, and the Right hates it for whitewashing just how violent and evil they actually were.
Its really such a hard spot to be in for the movie.
You cant just claim the injuns skinned the governor alive and not drop any source material. Chat gpt claims.
And disney painting something in a cute innocent light? Say it aint so! I doubt it had anything to do with their brand and target audience. I always thought it was funny how fairys were depicted as cute tiny little things when the reality is they were often blamed for stealing children and eating them.
But let me ask you something, the indians did some bad shit, but do you really believe the other side was innocent in what they did? There was a reason that our government wants to hide these stories. And its not because they are trying to make the indians look good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTKogX9O7dY
-edit-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ratcliffe_(governor)
So you obviously mean this, thing is I cant find any proof that this actually happened. There seems to be zero references popping in google books.
Just a reddit thread referencing this one wiki article?
https://np.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1jo48ff/til_jamestown_governor_john_ratcliffe_the_villain/
Im going to keep reading, but ive yet to find the original account of this. According to that reddit thread, it was retribution for kidnapping and holding the chiefs kids hostage. :shrugs:
Like I said before there were hundreds of different tribes/nations. They all had different beliefs. Some tribes would have ate him prolly.
Lol for something that supposedly happened its hard to find any references to it. I found this?
https://www.google.ca/books/edition/The_Making_of_Virginia_and_the_Middle_Co/46lBAAAAYAAJ
Where it mentions on page 47,
Sounds bleak.
Yep, all I could really find was the "great" massacre, where the indians actually slaughtered about 300 some colonialist because they, the colonialist wanted the lands to grow tobacco on. Most of them died from starvation though, not indian attacks.
Both sides were full of shitheads, no doubt.
Apparently pocahontas did warn the main jamestown settlement about the impending attack, but the other settlements werent so lucky...
It must really suck being a retarded gay communist
That reminds me.
u/acp_k2win hasn't posted in about eight months.
He called people "gay commies" all the time.
I wonder what happened.
I've been summoned. Actually I was going through some personal shit for a while so pulled back from shitposting to re-center myself, as gay as that sounds, but also twitter became a lot more free so I've been pushing overton there.
https://x.com/NwrdScissrhands follow me for the spiciest takes and reaction gifs (I'm at almost 2000 followers an around 3000 should be enough to take my place as a professional racist)
Your shit is fake & gay.
First it was the Lefties saying we couldn't call them Indians anymore, and now its the Right saying we can't call them Native Americans anymore.
Can we all just stop pretending to care about these nearly extinct people and the word game nonsense everyone seems to be obsessed with around them? They get more mention by people trying to score cheap useless points like this than an amount of them that actually exist anymore.
Nobody cares about them unless its time to virtue signal in either direction.
They still have reservations and territory granted to them. They still make demands of our politicians and make demonstrations, both in the US but especially in Canada. Until all these privileges are stripped away from them and they are treated like every other citizen, I welcome any discussion questioning their legitimacy.
What question?
If that's your problem, that's a legitimate problem. But pussyfooting around with these word games is completely useless to solving it, its just grifting to get easily led retards to say "UM BASED?!!" at you and then repeat it elsewhere. Its debate club nonsense based on technicalities that mean nothing beyond jerking off on how smart you are.
The question of whether this land actually "belongs" to them. If Americans and Canadians whose families have lived here for centuries become considered as "indigenous" and "native" to North America, then it removes all claims that current "Native Americans" have over their lands, and removes the justification for their privileges of tax-free havens and not having to work. I support the vast majority of overtures in shifting the Overton window in that direction on this issue.
It doesn't, they were conquered and lost. Anything they have was an act of mercy well above the norm for most of human history. That's the shift you should be pushing at, same with niggers and slavery who got the sweetest deal possible compared to all non-white slave owners.
Their havens are dwindling due to that lack of work driving them into drugs and suicide constantly, and they aren't being replaced. The people causing you problems are those who left such shitholes and are using Identity Politics to be more equal than others to get their way, and is a problem that cannot be solved at the branch but needs to be taken out from the root.
I don't disagree with anything you said, though? I always considered it unusually generous to grant them so many reserves and so much land, and I always felt disgust at their utter ungratefulness and gall to still demand more. Removing their privileges and simply acknowledging them as the conquered people that they are, is also in the direction of the shift I want to see in the Overton window. Why are you acting as if Walsh's comments here are a step back? He simply did not go as far as we would want him to be, but it's still a step in the right direction. The moment it becomes mainstream to ask if they are the only people who legitimately deserve the title of "Native", people will start questioning the legitimacy of "Native people's" claim over it as well.
I'm not. I'm pointing out that its a waste of time from a talking head trying to score clickbait points on meaningless controversy. Its using technicalities to argue something that nobody will change their mind over on technicalities. People know what the Injuns are, and calling them something else won't change the emotional manipulation they are capable of and the history people were taught about them.
You aren't moving in the right direction to fix the problem anymore than they fixed the problem on their end by making people call them Native Americans in the first place.
You are giving him the most charitable interpretation of this action possible, bordering on utopian, while I'm pointing out that its such a worthless little action that the time spent on doing it is more wasted than its possible gain compared to actively saying the things you have said here.
Matt Walsh is a natalist faggot who played damage control for the feminists with his shit documentary.
Why do people listen to him.
logic checks out as much as any leftist academic argument.
we are all indigenous native americans now (somali captain meme)
damn, this is a tough one. i apologize to that matt-nigerino-guy.
you were right callin us nazi-fags out. matt walsh went as hard as one can go in his grifter-position.