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Totally not a leftist James Lindsay attacks Matt Walsh for correctly saying the people we call Native Americans now are not Native Americans, because they did not form a country called America. (twitter.com)
posted 174 days ago by YesMovement 174 days ago by YesMovement +100 / -0
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– Adamrises 2 points 173 days ago +2 / -0

The question of whether this land actually "belongs" to them.

It doesn't, they were conquered and lost. Anything they have was an act of mercy well above the norm for most of human history. That's the shift you should be pushing at, same with niggers and slavery who got the sweetest deal possible compared to all non-white slave owners.

Their havens are dwindling due to that lack of work driving them into drugs and suicide constantly, and they aren't being replaced. The people causing you problems are those who left such shitholes and are using Identity Politics to be more equal than others to get their way, and is a problem that cannot be solved at the branch but needs to be taken out from the root.

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– -Fender- 2 points 173 days ago +2 / -0

I don't disagree with anything you said, though? I always considered it unusually generous to grant them so many reserves and so much land, and I always felt disgust at their utter ungratefulness and gall to still demand more. Removing their privileges and simply acknowledging them as the conquered people that they are, is also in the direction of the shift I want to see in the Overton window. Why are you acting as if Walsh's comments here are a step back? He simply did not go as far as we would want him to be, but it's still a step in the right direction. The moment it becomes mainstream to ask if they are the only people who legitimately deserve the title of "Native", people will start questioning the legitimacy of "Native people's" claim over it as well.

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– Adamrises 1 point 173 days ago +1 / -0

Why are you acting as if Walsh's comments here are a step back?

I'm not. I'm pointing out that its a waste of time from a talking head trying to score clickbait points on meaningless controversy. Its using technicalities to argue something that nobody will change their mind over on technicalities. People know what the Injuns are, and calling them something else won't change the emotional manipulation they are capable of and the history people were taught about them.

You aren't moving in the right direction to fix the problem anymore than they fixed the problem on their end by making people call them Native Americans in the first place.

You are giving him the most charitable interpretation of this action possible, bordering on utopian, while I'm pointing out that its such a worthless little action that the time spent on doing it is more wasted than its possible gain compared to actively saying the things you have said here.

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