Those are churchians, not Christians. They’re the same people who believe that somehow Christianity got it wrong for 1700 years and only their most modern branch of Christianity is relevant.
We used to persecute heretics...maybe that was the right thing to do all along. I'm not sure though, it probably got abused to persecute political opponents but damn if the heretics aren't running rampant now.
love your neighbor has been a disaster for Christianity.
how those pharisees managed to convincingly convolute "neighbor" into "guy from the other side of the globe who shares literally nothing with you", I will never understand...
you can love them and still beleive they need a frank conversation with god, face-to-face, asap.
also. Jesus may love them equally, but you're not Jesus. and there are a couple other harder and more important things to do to get closer to him, before you start to "love" random biotrash.
Many of the Bible’s prescriptions are interdependent. Taken in a vacuum, isolated pieces of “God’s wisdom” can be enormously destructive if applied outside the context of a wholly just and moral society. Sorta like how the US constitution is really only useful in governing a moral people.
I get that but I do think we should be following Christ’s example. I want to help those in need, I really do but it seems that people really have become experts at taking advantage of any whiff of compassion
Way back when, the German Mennonites fled persecution and Tsarist Russia invited them to come on over! This greatly benefitted Russia (Ukraine).
Later they fled Russian persecution too & came to Canada by invitation. Canada and the USA prospered wherever Mennonites settled.
Then came the Holodomor... and the USSR never really recovered from that. Ofc WW2 also happened soon after...
I recall there was a brief time when the Italian Navy would drag any ship (or boat) in violation back to it's harbour of origin, dump the people off & sink it. Those rubber rafts would get shredded at sea & the people returned by force.
It didn't last long, iirc. :/
I’m sure there will be those who say this is inhumane. I wish there could be a law stating that those who support unfettered immigration/mass migration should be forced to take them in. Yea I know that is a pipe dream. Just like I wish those who hate the west were sent to live in the third world country of their choosing or the “stolen land” people should have to live like a Native American tribe did in 1500.
There's nothing wrong with them being required to stay back and fix their own home. If your house burns down, are you entitled to move in and permanently claim the home of someone down the street?
I agree. I think this is long overdue. It’s abundantly clear that people who champion mass immigration don’t feel the effects of it. I just think of all the open border people and would love to ask why they don’t take in everyone, but yes not coming here at all is the best solution.
Traditionally? A good neighbor will "take you in" and help you and your family. They have a fire? You give them food & shelter until their relatives and friends come to help them get back on their own feet.
But now that's become: take care of them forever, and 10 of their deadbeat relatives too. 80% of these "refugees" never intend to "build their own home" they're here to sponge off the system for generations to come. In their culture? This is the 2nd best way to live. (The 1st best being to be rich like the 10% are, but that's unlikely so second place = win!)
Whenever I see these pictures I always wonder who's paying for the nice -straight out of the shipping crate- inflatable rafts these "migrants" are swanning around on.
Someone needs to follow the money and start seizing assets.
Each person in that raft paid anywhere between $1000 to $5000 usd for the seat. It is extremely profitable! Usually the 'coyotes' aren't even on the boats, they hire some deadbeats or simply instruct a couple of migrants how to run the things.
Most "ports of departure" have heavy restrictions on things like this, but $$$ makes it happen. So the $$$ gets spread out among other smugglers, corrupt cops & corrupt officials. Keeping the wheels greased, eh?
It's like if 7 people drove a vw rabbit diesel cross country until it exploded in front of your driveway, and then you have to let them live with you forever. Unreal.
Even worse, they knew it would break down in your city, but they still came on purpose to force someone to take care of them for life.
They also paid a human trafficker $14,000 for the VW... makes you wonder why they spent all that money on this, rather than use the money to improve their own lives? 🤔 And nations.
Didn't Greece speedrun the EU's new style of fortified democracy by sending their right-wing Golden Dawn party to prison in the 2010s? How's that working out for them?
Interesting. Fact is Greece relies on tourism for their economy. Immigrants kill tourism, who wants to go get raped on their vacation.
And it drives me insane how progressive Christians think it’s the Christian thing to do to have zero borders and let people in who hate the culture.
Those are churchians, not Christians. They’re the same people who believe that somehow Christianity got it wrong for 1700 years and only their most modern branch of Christianity is relevant.
True. Or that the Bible conveniently lines up with whatever far left candidate is popular
The worst one I saw was a group of leftist “Catholics” saying Jesus would have prioritized “green energy” over abortion. Yes they made that argument.
We used to persecute heretics...maybe that was the right thing to do all along. I'm not sure though, it probably got abused to persecute political opponents but damn if the heretics aren't running rampant now.
Can’t even say I’m surprised
It's a time of great spiritual confusion.
Judeo-Christians
Greece is still very much Christian. It will be sad to see it go. I hope to go see the monasteries there someday.
Search for meteora Greek monasteries, the effort they had to go thru in order to defend against invading muslims and now to just allow them in.
Orthodox christian?
Greece is the origin of what is now called Orthodox, yes.
Generally, the Orthodox are the most based Christians there are.
love your neighbor has been a disaster for Christianity.
how those pharisees managed to convincingly convolute "neighbor" into "guy from the other side of the globe who shares literally nothing with you", I will never understand...
I believe we should love everyone ideally as Jesus commanded. Also it is illogical to bring people in who hate your society
you can love them and still beleive they need a frank conversation with god, face-to-face, asap.
also. Jesus may love them equally, but you're not Jesus. and there are a couple other harder and more important things to do to get closer to him, before you start to "love" random biotrash.
Love includes keeping them off the path to evil, but that would be mean so we've abandoned that.
Many of the Bible’s prescriptions are interdependent. Taken in a vacuum, isolated pieces of “God’s wisdom” can be enormously destructive if applied outside the context of a wholly just and moral society. Sorta like how the US constitution is really only useful in governing a moral people.
I get that but I do think we should be following Christ’s example. I want to help those in need, I really do but it seems that people really have become experts at taking advantage of any whiff of compassion
They are not Christians. Those are heretics.
Good & valid point.
Was just about to say. I saw 'Crete' so that was pretty alarming because I've been intending to go there.
There is not a single place in Europe that has been made better by immigration. Not one.
Not in the past 100 years or so, no.
Way back when, the German Mennonites fled persecution and Tsarist Russia invited them to come on over! This greatly benefitted Russia (Ukraine).
Later they fled Russian persecution too & came to Canada by invitation. Canada and the USA prospered wherever Mennonites settled.
Then came the Holodomor... and the USSR never really recovered from that. Ofc WW2 also happened soon after...
Took long enough, now place some use drones to sink their boats, stop them relentlessly emptying illegals into Europe through you!
I recall there was a brief time when the Italian Navy would drag any ship (or boat) in violation back to it's harbour of origin, dump the people off & sink it. Those rubber rafts would get shredded at sea & the people returned by force.
It didn't last long, iirc. :/
I’m sure there will be those who say this is inhumane. I wish there could be a law stating that those who support unfettered immigration/mass migration should be forced to take them in. Yea I know that is a pipe dream. Just like I wish those who hate the west were sent to live in the third world country of their choosing or the “stolen land” people should have to live like a Native American tribe did in 1500.
There's nothing wrong with them being required to stay back and fix their own home. If your house burns down, are you entitled to move in and permanently claim the home of someone down the street?
I agree. I think this is long overdue. It’s abundantly clear that people who champion mass immigration don’t feel the effects of it. I just think of all the open border people and would love to ask why they don’t take in everyone, but yes not coming here at all is the best solution.
Traditionally? A good neighbor will "take you in" and help you and your family. They have a fire? You give them food & shelter until their relatives and friends come to help them get back on their own feet.
But now that's become: take care of them forever, and 10 of their deadbeat relatives too. 80% of these "refugees" never intend to "build their own home" they're here to sponge off the system for generations to come. In their culture? This is the 2nd best way to live. (The 1st best being to be rich like the 10% are, but that's unlikely so second place = win!)
That's pretty humane. I'd go with "mail'em back along with the gimmiegrants and revoke their citizenship too.'.
That is certainly another solution lol
Just the gimmiegrants (had to look that one up, but I could guess)?
Whenever I see these pictures I always wonder who's paying for the nice -straight out of the shipping crate- inflatable rafts these "migrants" are swanning around on.
Someone needs to follow the money and start seizing assets.
Each person in that raft paid anywhere between $1000 to $5000 usd for the seat. It is extremely profitable! Usually the 'coyotes' aren't even on the boats, they hire some deadbeats or simply instruct a couple of migrants how to run the things.
Most "ports of departure" have heavy restrictions on things like this, but $$$ makes it happen. So the $$$ gets spread out among other smugglers, corrupt cops & corrupt officials. Keeping the wheels greased, eh?
Too late.
Gotta move fast and deport all migrants before some leftist EU court full of NGO drones says "No!".
It's like if 7 people drove a vw rabbit diesel cross country until it exploded in front of your driveway, and then you have to let them live with you forever. Unreal.
Even worse, they knew it would break down in your city, but they still came on purpose to force someone to take care of them for life.
They also paid a human trafficker $14,000 for the VW... makes you wonder why they spent all that money on this, rather than use the money to improve their own lives? 🤔 And nations.
Because they got the money from an NGO aka your taxes
They need to deport a whole lotta browns to fully purge themselves of these parasitic niggers who try and sell you beads on the market square
Didn't Greece speedrun the EU's new style of fortified democracy by sending their right-wing Golden Dawn party to prison in the 2010s? How's that working out for them?
10 years too late.
But better than nothing. Now deport ALL the previous invaders & maybe Greece can be saved.