Trump has greatly overestimated his cult fanbase. They exist, and in scarily large numbers, but not as many that will excuse absurd gaslighting on the most powerful people in the country raping kids and getting off scott free.
At least then you could come up with a half decent excuse- like you could see how someone could believe the Iran that was that bad and it's Iran so who cares.
For this both the thing he's doing and his reason for doing it don't hold water.
The same Brooklyn Jewish leftists who just voted for Mamdani? Yeah, I'm not sure that "we covered up a child sex ring that may have been linked to ..." is going to be a great selling point to them.
I'm hoping if he still fucks this up, mid term wise people vote but based on POLICY than who Trump supports.
We lose more not voting so MAGA need to use this as an opportunity to show it's bigger than Trump. Keep Massie in office, kick out Lindsay Greham, even vote in a few 'America Party' candidates if they are more libertarians and debt focused policy wise. Use it as an opportunity to PURGE the establishment that thinks a Trump endorsement protects them from consequences.
That does not apply to where I live in WA. There are no viable America First candidates. I will write in straight ticket Beelzebub write in ballot, but I will cast my ballot to ensure it cannot be used for fraud.
Dude, unless we admit that Washington just cheats to get whoever they want in power, there was is no real voting. The Emperor is protected by rioters and whoever owns Bill Gates.
I have yet to see a good reason to keep massie other than muh aipac, If you want to clean house. You purge them all. Otherwise you're just being a hypocrite.
Depends, I'm concerned who might replace him, at least HE is anti AIPAC and is more on the pro small farm side. Hell Trump should have made HIM the agricultural secretary than the current one.
They're going to get clobbered in the midterms and then it's going to be absolute chaos. Trump's boomerism has been used to compromise him, and they're going to destroy him because of it.
I've been accused of sycophancy around here for telling people to not overreact over every little thing he does that seems wrong, and even I really don't have much energy to disagree on this one. Its a massive fuckup with no real silver line, either he is spitting in our face directly or had his string pulled hard enough to be this shameless and revealed how powerful someone is behind the scenes.
I didn't believe we'd ever really get the list, I was shocked Bondi was acting like it was gonna happen, but their attempted spin on it is so fucking bad that it turned from an "of course" acceptance to quite a chunk of anger. He is retarded to try whatever he is trying to do, and no one should let him forget that.
I still don't think its quite as world ending as people think. Of course it'll look bad on approval ratings right now, when tempers are high and its fresh in people's minds. If he can successfully continue the deportation train and other economic forces, something with direct benefits that most Americans can walk outside and see, it'll probably end up just being a stain on his legacy instead of the end of it.
I agree there's a lot of over-reaction, but he seems to be not helping himself and he's making it pretty hard to argue this is a 4-d chess move to get enough public pressure to actually launch the investigation.
I agree that I didn't think we'd get the list or anything... but then why fuck it up so hard that you claim you have it, claim the NY FBI is hiding it from you, and then say there's nothing. Even from a purely cynical position, that's ultra-stupid. Blondi really does need to go.
but he seems to be not helping himself and he's making it pretty hard to argue this is a 4-d chess move to get enough public pressure to actually launch the investigation.
I agree entirely. I said it down below that the reality was likely always going to be this way, but his handling of that reality is the real problem regardless. Whatever he is trying to pull is backfiring hard, and if it is some QuadD Chess move (in his mind) then it better work pretty fucking good to offset that.
Like, he said on camera yesterday "Obama and Biden fucked with the list, we can't trust anything on it now" and that was literally all he needed to say. Bondi "had it" ready, they looked deeper and figured out it was tampered with at the last second, and then scrambled to not look like fools after hyping it up before finally giving up and just eating the egg.
That's a pathetic and stupid reason, but its at least a fucking reason that we can swallow as probably being true to some extent. Nobody would honestly believe half the names on it (whether its their guy, or someone they hated not being there), and that's a reason. But he didn't do that, that's his Page 7 newspaper correction that nobody is going to hear. He went full guns shitting on people, and now he suffers the effect of that.
It's weird because I'm certain that Trump's attitude would be to burn anyone who was a pedophile. Just the same way that I don't believe for one second that Trump actually dropped the Butler, PA investigation with a couple of suspensions. That's not like him, but I can't (for the life of me) see what he's holding back for.
Sure, something something Israel, but that creates leverage that he can use against Israel (or people in it). If he's gonna hold a Sword of Damocles over someone's head, he needs to show evidence that he's prepared to use it. Same reason he needed to bomb Iran as a show of force for the rest of the planet that the we can project power still.
Frankly, if he just came out and said, openly, "I'm using the pedo tapes to blackmail people into co-operating with me, that's why I can't release it", I'd buy it and give him some leniency. I mean, he doesn't that a couple times a year, like when he said "Everybody in DC loves war, it's weird." and "We're selling weapons to the Saudis because we're gonna make a lot of money."
That's not like him, but I can't (for the life of me) see what he's holding back for.
The only thing that keeps making sense to me is that somebody pulled a string, whether blackmail or threat, that was strong enough to get him in line and he is just letting it happen to pursue the rest of his agenda.
There are far too many pieces missing for us to be certain of anything right now, other than it was a massive fuckup and he is the one holding the bag for it.
I do think there's one hypothesis that works, and I think it might be the most plausible.
The list is so bad, that it will kill the entire Neo-Liberal Order, almost overnight, like the fall of Communism... but there's nothing to replace it in the resulting power vacuum, and every single institution that's been captured by the Neo-Liberal Order will die with it. A true "General Uprising" might actually take place and smash every strategy an plan that Trump has to reform these institutions, and he's not willing to take the revolutionary step that the rest of us are at.
And when I mean bad, I mean, people storming government buildings in Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, the US, Canada, the UK, Ireland, France, the Netherlands, and more (maybe even in Israel given Netanyahu's delicate political stance); all while China and Russia suddenly become the final arbiters of international morality because their hands look clean. It's so bad that the EU collapses before 2028. It's so bad that the British government collapses. It's so bad the English crown collapses, and the House of Windsor is dissolved causing a monarchial succession crisis. If Trump is told that that is the likely outcome, then I'd say he'd balk because he wants to save the west as he remembers it without having to rebuild from the foundation... which I don't think is possible.
You guys are being played like a fiddle. This is art of war, 5D chess. How do you get the marxists to demand their own destruction through the exposure of the elite pedophile cult who's been programming them for decades? You make Trump deny it and dismiss it.
Marxists are physically incapable of supporting anything Trump does so now the "baseless conspiracy theory" is suddenly a front page story with the entire world demanding exposure. The self-ownage they are about to unleash on themselves will be talked about for centuries.
Trump supporters with triple digit IQs don't care because this is an obvious psyop.
See that reflexive vicious response? That's what brainwashed marxists do. Acting like someone from r/politics isn't doing you any favors and should really make you reconsider your position.
I thought nothing of Q until I started looking at the proofs for myself.
Q has repeatedly mathematically proven beyond a shadow of a doubt:
They are a military intelligence unit closely aligned with the Trump administration.
They have a certain amount of control over world events, including removing high level politicians like John McCain.
Anyone can look into it and see it for themselves. Q predicted the arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell who is now doing 20 years in prison for trafficking minors to powerful men. They also predicted she would only be the first domino and more would follow. The Epstein/Maxwell scandal is now front page news again with demands for further exposure increasing by the day.
I know pattern recognition isn't everyone's strong suit but lots of people are about to look very stupid.
Brah, Q wasn't even reliable as a source. Most of the Q movement was Boomer Numerology surrounding barely verifiable ""leaks"" that spouted shit that anyone with a brain already knew, wrapped in "I'm just asking questions" mystery-fun-time aesthetic, enforced by Boomer Numerology, and originating from Quantico. Which is probably what Q actually stood for.
this would make lots of sense if there wasn't a file cabinet of hard drives somewhere in a Mossad office full of videos of trump diddling little mexican children like that guy fucked that pig in The Gentlemen.
Fun idea, zero evidence. I don't really care about the endless wars of desert people but Iran hit the US embassy in Tel Aviv so they asked for it. The attack on Iran also prevented a possible world war so I'm all for it.
No shit. He's pissing in our faces and telling us it's rain
Trump has greatly overestimated his cult fanbase. They exist, and in scarily large numbers, but not as many that will excuse absurd gaslighting on the most powerful people in the country raping kids and getting off scott free.
This. My support was always contingent on doing right by the country and the people.
Of this nation, not "that place" in the middle east.
It's worse than that, he's pissing in your cup and telling you it's lemonade.
Trump lost me when he bombed Iran on Israel's orders, like a little bitch.
Same. But the Epstein stuff has definitely removed any doubt I had about the decision.
He lost me when he let Elon jump ship acrimoniously.
That is not a bridge you just burn.
And then Trump acted like a jilted girlfriend when they split.
At least then you could come up with a half decent excuse- like you could see how someone could believe the Iran that was that bad and it's Iran so who cares.
For this both the thing he's doing and his reason for doing it don't hold water.
Will he gain enough Brooklyn jewish votes to offset this?
The same Brooklyn Jewish leftists who just voted for Mamdani? Yeah, I'm not sure that "we covered up a child sex ring that may have been linked to ..." is going to be a great selling point to them.
Most of those voters are voting Republican, not Democrat.
The silliest part is that a lot of those Jewish voters aren't necessarily fans of Netanyahu.
I'm hoping if he still fucks this up, mid term wise people vote but based on POLICY than who Trump supports.
We lose more not voting so MAGA need to use this as an opportunity to show it's bigger than Trump. Keep Massie in office, kick out Lindsay Greham, even vote in a few 'America Party' candidates if they are more libertarians and debt focused policy wise. Use it as an opportunity to PURGE the establishment that thinks a Trump endorsement protects them from consequences.
The polling is showing that the people he's losing likely won't vote at all, so overall policy will not matter.
That does not apply to where I live in WA. There are no viable America First candidates. I will write in straight ticket Beelzebub write in ballot, but I will cast my ballot to ensure it cannot be used for fraud.
Do what you can even if it's spoiling your ballot.
DENY the dems but even if you can't do federal only local, get as many of the establishment old GOP out of office as possible.
Dude, unless we admit that Washington just cheats to get whoever they want in power, there was is no real voting. The Emperor is protected by rioters and whoever owns Bill Gates.
I have yet to see a good reason to keep massie other than muh aipac, If you want to clean house. You purge them all. Otherwise you're just being a hypocrite.
Depends, I'm concerned who might replace him, at least HE is anti AIPAC and is more on the pro small farm side. Hell Trump should have made HIM the agricultural secretary than the current one.
AMERICA FIRST.
TBF a lot of the pedos he's protecting are American- Clinton, Gates, etc.
“You have to trust the president to manage our allies!”
Yeah, it's bad.
https://rumble.com/v6w96ei-richard-baris-tax-cuts-are-popular.-ukraine-funding-and-epstein-mishandling.html?e9s=src_v1_mfp
They're going to get clobbered in the midterms and then it's going to be absolute chaos. Trump's boomerism has been used to compromise him, and they're going to destroy him because of it.
Sadly, he brought this on himself.
I've been accused of sycophancy around here for telling people to not overreact over every little thing he does that seems wrong, and even I really don't have much energy to disagree on this one. Its a massive fuckup with no real silver line, either he is spitting in our face directly or had his string pulled hard enough to be this shameless and revealed how powerful someone is behind the scenes.
I didn't believe we'd ever really get the list, I was shocked Bondi was acting like it was gonna happen, but their attempted spin on it is so fucking bad that it turned from an "of course" acceptance to quite a chunk of anger. He is retarded to try whatever he is trying to do, and no one should let him forget that.
I still don't think its quite as world ending as people think. Of course it'll look bad on approval ratings right now, when tempers are high and its fresh in people's minds. If he can successfully continue the deportation train and other economic forces, something with direct benefits that most Americans can walk outside and see, it'll probably end up just being a stain on his legacy instead of the end of it.
I agree there's a lot of over-reaction, but he seems to be not helping himself and he's making it pretty hard to argue this is a 4-d chess move to get enough public pressure to actually launch the investigation.
I agree that I didn't think we'd get the list or anything... but then why fuck it up so hard that you claim you have it, claim the NY FBI is hiding it from you, and then say there's nothing. Even from a purely cynical position, that's ultra-stupid. Blondi really does need to go.
I agree entirely. I said it down below that the reality was likely always going to be this way, but his handling of that reality is the real problem regardless. Whatever he is trying to pull is backfiring hard, and if it is some QuadD Chess move (in his mind) then it better work pretty fucking good to offset that.
Like, he said on camera yesterday "Obama and Biden fucked with the list, we can't trust anything on it now" and that was literally all he needed to say. Bondi "had it" ready, they looked deeper and figured out it was tampered with at the last second, and then scrambled to not look like fools after hyping it up before finally giving up and just eating the egg.
That's a pathetic and stupid reason, but its at least a fucking reason that we can swallow as probably being true to some extent. Nobody would honestly believe half the names on it (whether its their guy, or someone they hated not being there), and that's a reason. But he didn't do that, that's his Page 7 newspaper correction that nobody is going to hear. He went full guns shitting on people, and now he suffers the effect of that.
It's weird because I'm certain that Trump's attitude would be to burn anyone who was a pedophile. Just the same way that I don't believe for one second that Trump actually dropped the Butler, PA investigation with a couple of suspensions. That's not like him, but I can't (for the life of me) see what he's holding back for.
Sure, something something Israel, but that creates leverage that he can use against Israel (or people in it). If he's gonna hold a Sword of Damocles over someone's head, he needs to show evidence that he's prepared to use it. Same reason he needed to bomb Iran as a show of force for the rest of the planet that the we can project power still.
Frankly, if he just came out and said, openly, "I'm using the pedo tapes to blackmail people into co-operating with me, that's why I can't release it", I'd buy it and give him some leniency. I mean, he doesn't that a couple times a year, like when he said "Everybody in DC loves war, it's weird." and "We're selling weapons to the Saudis because we're gonna make a lot of money."
The only thing that keeps making sense to me is that somebody pulled a string, whether blackmail or threat, that was strong enough to get him in line and he is just letting it happen to pursue the rest of his agenda.
There are far too many pieces missing for us to be certain of anything right now, other than it was a massive fuckup and he is the one holding the bag for it.
I do think there's one hypothesis that works, and I think it might be the most plausible.
The list is so bad, that it will kill the entire Neo-Liberal Order, almost overnight, like the fall of Communism... but there's nothing to replace it in the resulting power vacuum, and every single institution that's been captured by the Neo-Liberal Order will die with it. A true "General Uprising" might actually take place and smash every strategy an plan that Trump has to reform these institutions, and he's not willing to take the revolutionary step that the rest of us are at.
And when I mean bad, I mean, people storming government buildings in Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, the US, Canada, the UK, Ireland, France, the Netherlands, and more (maybe even in Israel given Netanyahu's delicate political stance); all while China and Russia suddenly become the final arbiters of international morality because their hands look clean. It's so bad that the EU collapses before 2028. It's so bad that the British government collapses. It's so bad the English crown collapses, and the House of Windsor is dissolved causing a monarchial succession crisis. If Trump is told that that is the likely outcome, then I'd say he'd balk because he wants to save the west as he remembers it without having to rebuild from the foundation... which I don't think is possible.
did elon see this coming?
You guys are being played like a fiddle. This is art of war, 5D chess. How do you get the marxists to demand their own destruction through the exposure of the elite pedophile cult who's been programming them for decades? You make Trump deny it and dismiss it.
Marxists are physically incapable of supporting anything Trump does so now the "baseless conspiracy theory" is suddenly a front page story with the entire world demanding exposure. The self-ownage they are about to unleash on themselves will be talked about for centuries.
Trump supporters with triple digit IQs don't care because this is an obvious psyop.
Qoomer cope.
See that reflexive vicious response? That's what brainwashed marxists do. Acting like someone from r/politics isn't doing you any favors and should really make you reconsider your position.
I thought nothing of Q until I started looking at the proofs for myself.
Q has repeatedly mathematically proven beyond a shadow of a doubt:
Anyone can look into it and see it for themselves. Q predicted the arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell who is now doing 20 years in prison for trafficking minors to powerful men. They also predicted she would only be the first domino and more would follow. The Epstein/Maxwell scandal is now front page news again with demands for further exposure increasing by the day.
I know pattern recognition isn't everyone's strong suit but lots of people are about to look very stupid.
You actually are a Qoomer. LMAFO
Brah, Q wasn't even reliable as a source. Most of the Q movement was Boomer Numerology surrounding barely verifiable ""leaks"" that spouted shit that anyone with a brain already knew, wrapped in "I'm just asking questions" mystery-fun-time aesthetic, enforced by Boomer Numerology, and originating from Quantico. Which is probably what Q actually stood for.
To be fair, you need a high IQ to understand
Rick and MortyQ.this would make lots of sense if there wasn't a file cabinet of hard drives somewhere in a Mossad office full of videos of trump diddling little mexican children like that guy fucked that pig in The Gentlemen.
Fun idea, zero evidence. I don't really care about the endless wars of desert people but Iran hit the US embassy in Tel Aviv so they asked for it. The attack on Iran also prevented a possible world war so I'm all for it.
It's actually 10D chess- sounds like you're one of those panicans who doesn't really support Trump and is just a closet commie.
Hing.
Name is so based. Am I right guys?
I seriously cannot believe this. By just loving the country I remember growing up, in I’ve been called nothing but names since 2008.
Deplorable. Stupid. ignorant. White (as an insult). Bigot. - phobe. - ist. Bad person. Christian (as an insult). Traitor. Terrorist. Nazi. UN-American. Isolationist. Boomer. Immature. Insecure. Chud. Old-man-yells-at-clouds. Greedy. Capitalist (as an insult). Regressive. Backwards. Caveman. Incel. etc…