The state of South Africa justifies even the most unpleasant ideas of White racialists. I hate it and I'm not sure what to do. Whatever Oriana is, journalists and political parties have commented on its existence and openly called for its eradication. Its just a small gated community of Afrikaners; and they must be destroyed. The entire world order is simultaneously based on western European ideas and dedicated to their annihilation.
I understand that you're not sure what to do, but the uncomfortable answer is to acknowledge that white racialists have a LOT of valid points which are borne out in reality. It is disappointing to come to the conclusion that humanity is as thoughtlessly tribal as it is, especially if you have been raised with a liberal world view, but it is the truth.
Just as a woman can't become a man, because it is inherently tied to her biology, humanity can't NOT be tribal for the same reason.
Civic Nationalism is a fantasy that only a midwit subjected to massive propaganda can believe in. Other races continue to practice tribalism. Only "educated" whites think civic nationalism can work. A few other races give it lipservice as they take advantage of these midwits and continue to hire their own.
The problem is that the white racialists are socialists who inevitably kill their own tribe for the benefit of Leftism. That's why the SNP and Shin Fein are staunchly for demographic replacement of Ireland and Scotland. Best of all, the "tribe" they are talking about is some retarded American National Socialist (because the Germans never argued this) concept of a Greater European Racial Solidarity. That all Italians, Albanians, Welshmen, Russians, Danes, Portuguese, Greeks, and somehow Afrikans, are all one tribe. Well, they're not.
That all Italians, Albanians, Welshmen, Russians, Danes, Portuguese, Greeks, and somehow Afrikans, are all one tribe. Well, they're not.
If we don't hang together, we'll all hang separately. -Benjamin Franklin
I take the global White identity to mean all white tribes united against the people who used it like a weapon against us in the first place. Nobody has to lose their individual identity. It has nothing to do with the economic fantasy you're talking about. Natsocs are a tiny part of that movement.
I'm considered reasonably racist around here. What's your problem? You didn't respond to my post in any meaningful manner; you just bitched about me not saying the 14 words; on the internet, that means you're probably employed by JIDF or some American funded NGO.
I hope so too, but once anyone fires a shot, the SA government will send in the military.
My prediction is that, whether planned or not, this “protest” will turn into a “sit in” - specifically, I predict that any blacks they bus down there will realize that they’d have a better life squatting in Orania than anywhere else in Africa.
I don’t think Orania can stop them at their borders. They don’t have walls (yet) so the blacks will just walk right in. Then they’ll just stay. And then someone will send another bus load. So Orania will have to work full time deporting them, and the “international community” will call that a crime.
a military composed of illterate chimps who can't even operate their machinery properly? i highly doubt there are any White SA in that, so it will be like Helm's deep where 1000 something warriors will repel dozens of thousands of niggers with their their semi-automatics
ofc, this scenario can only go sideways if the Jewnited states intervenes on behalf of the niggers (and they will, mark my fucking words those muttmericans in the US army would probably salivate over bombing another White country again)
I had a chance to move there in 2017 but ultimately decided to emigrate.
It’s a beautiful thing seeing my people recreate a smaller version of the SA I remember growing up in back in the 80’s, but I’ve always known that that place was doomed right from the start. A pioneering spirit and the desire for self governance are baked into the Afrikaner DNA, but the country is not the same place it was in 1902.
Orania cannot and will not be allowed to continue. Their every success is a scathing indictment on the majority black government and the globalists who pull their puppet strings. Eventually they’ll send government jackboots in there and kick off the forced removals and/or some ethnic cleansing (and if you doubt that, you know very little about African history). The media will run cover for them, the entire story will be covered up etc.
It’s ultimately why I decided to just leave the whole country instead. For the sake of the women and children who live there I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am.
In the words of one of the leaders of their "solidarity" movement. They're not leaving because their family moved there in the 1600's, and this is their home. Yes, the government could kick in the doors, but at the same time, if they don't do this, then there is no where for them to go. They will become a scattered Afrikanner diaspora, and at that point, it really will have been a genocide because there won't be Afrikans at all.
I get it man, I heard the arguments my entire life. Still remember the picture of the Voortrekker monument that my grandparents had up in their dining room.
“Stand and fight, defend our people and our “taal”. Even if you have to die for it.”
All very patriotic and heroic and stuff, but again it’s not 1902 anymore. Even as a kid watching the country completely transform I understood just how screwed we were.
You have to understand that the nightmare scenario you guys in the US and Europe all worry about, being a minority in your own country just a few years from now, well we Afrikaners are already there for decades now.
We’re 4 million people against approximately 46 million Africans. Total demographic impotence. We cannot effect change in any meaningful way, even if we all somehow voted TEN times it still wouldn’t be enough to ever win another election.
We cannot pick up arms and violently take our country back either, because we’ve been mostly disarmed through decades of ever increasing gun controls. And even if we could somehow overthrow the gaggle of incompetent racist monkeys running our country it STILL wouldn’t matter because the “international community” of Globalists who pull their strings would pull out all the stops to keep their greasy fingers on all the infrastructure and resources they just spent the last 30 years acquiring. We would become the new Ukraine/Gaza in a heartbeat.
There’s a time for patriotism and duty to your people and there’s also a time for pragmatism and common sense. Staying in Africa under a Marxist government who are openly calling for your genocide and drafting new laws to sieze your land is not a winning strategy to me, it doesn’t matter whether you start your own town it will just be taken away from you by force.
The fact is the Afrikaans people are being slowly genocided anyway, our culture is shunned everywhere, our language is being pushed out of the institutions and schools, even our TV channels are slowly becoming “diverse” and no longer for us.
This is where I disagree with a lot of my countrymen because I believe that in order for our culture to survive we actually MUST leave. I’ve been in New Zealand for 7 years now, and while it’s a cucked leftist hell hole, there’s at least a large community of us here, enough that I still speak Afrikaans on a daily basis. And at least the government here don’t want to shoot my children with their machine gun (as the idiotic song goes).
I know from friends that there’s a sizeable bunch of us in the UK, US and Canada as well, all thriving. There are also a group who went to Argentina about 100 years ago and still speak the language there, so yeah I believe our culture can survive without being tied to a spit of land at the bottom of the world presided over by barbarians.
I DO wish the people of Orania well, and again I really hope I’m wrong and that the government will just leave them in peace, but it just doesn’t seem likely, man.
I don't disagree, and I'm not saying you're wrong. At some point the brutal historical reality can't be ignored. Rhodesians do die, eventually. Before that happens, the question is where will you go. If you have to leave, you will be a diaspora. If you go someone else, you're basically starting again if you want to preserve your history.
In the US the Accadian settlers were forcibly removed by the British after their successful war with France in the "French-Indian War". They became a flotilla of refugees who couldn't make it back to France due to the conditions of their ships and people. They sailed the coast of the US until they found the only French colony that they could get to: Louisiana. When they arrived, the city of New Orleans basically told them that they were full, but would allow them to settle outside the city. Unfortunately, the area outside the city was impenetrable swamp land. They decided they had nothing left to lose, so they settled it anyway. Over-time, their accent changed in response to the harsh humidity of the swamps and the Acadians engaged slurred their names in a thick southern drawl and accidentally prompted them to engage in Ethnogenesis:
The Accadians may have been French, but the Cajuns are not not French, not Canadian, and are distinctly and explicitly American.
If you leave, you and your descendants may become something else, maybe you'll become something else: like a New Zealander. But maybe you'll become something even more unique. But I suppose that depends on you more than anything.
I suspect that the Afrikanner diaspora will probably become something else to, probably more than one.
I suspect that the Afrikanner diaspora will probably become something else to, probably more than one.
I hate the thought of this, but you’re probably correct. As much as it sucks though, as a parent my duty is to my three little children and prioritising their physical safety. New Zealand wasn’t my first choice (I always hoped to go to America but I’m in my 40’s already so it’s unlikely), but at least my kids are physically safe here. No one is coming to murder them in their beds just because of their skin colour. They’ll have a childhood with food, water and electricity - sorry to say but that’s more important to me than preserving culture. It’s Maslow’s hierarchy.
Having said that, I am still doing my best to teach them our language and all about their heritage etc, but yeah you’re probably right that we’ll eventually be watered down into something else.
Probably not kiwi though, whatever that is these days anyway. The way I’ve seen THEIR culture slowly being phased out and replaced through mass immigration of asians and pajeets has been crazy. It’s happening to the Aussies, Brits and Canadians too. I think ALL our cultures are in the same perilous position to be honest, some of us are just a little further along than others
Average niggers doing nigger things. The less white people there are the more the brown hordes push. Doesn’t matter if it’s American or African nigger, it’s all the same demanding loudmouthed parasite.
Every nigger city in the US was taken over by niggers. It won't surprise anyone that there is no city that exists began as a city for niggers.
Atlanta- we all know its history in the Confederacy
Detroit- ruined in the 'great' migration of niggers
Oakland- a White city until pedophiles demanded the subway run through there. Niggers took it over.
There were some cities that began as a place for niggers but none of them were completed and they failed before they even started. Even the one where White faggots helped the beasts build it failed.
Niggers would have long gone extinct without Whites
All humans form tribes, groups, to survive. It's the most basic structure of humanity, undergirding the most basic truth of our existence. We're mortal, finite, and imperfect. We can achieve more together, than we can by ourselves. Alone, in a hostile world, is a death sentence. To rob someone of their most basic natural rights, to form groups with people like themselves, and to protect that group, is to deny them the purpose of those basic rights: survival.
The people that are denying White people our ability to congregate with our own, and to protect our own people, want us dead. There is no other conclusion.
And, due to the mainstream (corrupted and controlled) political right fully embracing self destructive individualism, to the point of completely abandoning all collective interests and merit, the mainstream right is a death sentence for White people, too. Due to the encroaching and increasingly obvious threat to White people, collectively, more of us are waking up to this reality, this harsh truth. We can either die alone, or fight together and win.
The tribe is essential to survival, yet one of the most tribal groups of all is dedicated to preventing Whites from standing together.
This same group is actively trying to criminalize discussion of "White genocide" as dangerous hate speech while simultaneously trumpeting about its glory under the euphemism of "diversity and cultural enrichment."
Yeah. Its why its retarded when i hear "gonna ignore all the white peepo dying and hide on my property with supplies and a fun." The commies will run over these people.
Orania is a curious case, you can see leftists openly notice its success, but they hate whites so much they still condemn them for get this, building a safe community, it's a combination of hate and envy, whites came to your continent, built efficient communities you as natives wouldn't manage to build in another 100000 years despite being in Africa forever, regardless of what way you look at it, you cannot help but notice that you are indeed inferior as a shitskin, nothing is stopping them from building their Onaria like black towns and thriving there, but of course niggers were never capable of creating, only destroying.
The sign holder to the far left has a good ol smirk on his gob. He is white but clearly not British. I'm sure he was the one who organized this, designed and printed out the signs. Literal goblin.
I hope people who argue secession and fleeing understand why it never works. If a communist doesn't have control over every aspect of every life of every part of the earth, then their racket can't expand, and they inevitably must attack. Race Communism changes nothing.
I've seen this specific argument pop up a lot lately (that Gizortnik made) within the last year, and every single person that makes it is vociferously anti-White, antagonistic toward any White collectivism, and is always mainstream (controlled opposition) right wing. They almost invariably use terms like "stormfag". And, they never, ever aim this argument toward any other race. It's exclusively, and only, aimed at White people, if we dare to suggest we must collectivize to survive. It's insanely stupid, hypocritical, and disingenuous.
You think Orania are "communists" because they don't accept non Whites in to their community? if that is your definition of what communism is that doesn't make it bad it just makes communism look good.
This is all of our futures.
Incredible. Access to White people and their creation is not a human right.
In this case it doesn't even sound like they want access to it, they just want to destroy it.
The state of South Africa justifies even the most unpleasant ideas of White racialists. I hate it and I'm not sure what to do. Whatever Oriana is, journalists and political parties have commented on its existence and openly called for its eradication. Its just a small gated community of Afrikaners; and they must be destroyed. The entire world order is simultaneously based on western European ideas and dedicated to their annihilation.
I understand that you're not sure what to do, but the uncomfortable answer is to acknowledge that white racialists have a LOT of valid points which are borne out in reality. It is disappointing to come to the conclusion that humanity is as thoughtlessly tribal as it is, especially if you have been raised with a liberal world view, but it is the truth.
Just as a woman can't become a man, because it is inherently tied to her biology, humanity can't NOT be tribal for the same reason.
Civic Nationalism is a fantasy that only a midwit subjected to massive propaganda can believe in. Other races continue to practice tribalism. Only "educated" whites think civic nationalism can work. A few other races give it lipservice as they take advantage of these midwits and continue to hire their own.
The problem is that the white racialists are socialists who inevitably kill their own tribe for the benefit of Leftism. That's why the SNP and Shin Fein are staunchly for demographic replacement of Ireland and Scotland. Best of all, the "tribe" they are talking about is some retarded American National Socialist (because the Germans never argued this) concept of a Greater European Racial Solidarity. That all Italians, Albanians, Welshmen, Russians, Danes, Portuguese, Greeks, and somehow Afrikans, are all one tribe. Well, they're not.
If we don't hang together, we'll all hang separately. -Benjamin Franklin
I take the global White identity to mean all white tribes united against the people who used it like a weapon against us in the first place. Nobody has to lose their individual identity. It has nothing to do with the economic fantasy you're talking about. Natsocs are a tiny part of that movement.
"Unpleasant ideas of white racialists" - what a cuck. Have you ever had to be around blacks?
I'm considered reasonably racist around here. What's your problem? You didn't respond to my post in any meaningful manner; you just bitched about me not saying the 14 words; on the internet, that means you're probably employed by JIDF or some American funded NGO.
If you don’t end every post with “murder all the nigs and kikes” you are a bit to vanilla for me.
Iudaeae Aethiopesque delendae sunt
His problem is that is what white racialism is: screaming about killing nigs and kikes incessantly, and if you don't do that, you're a jew.
Funny how the past decade's brought us from "I'm not racist, but" to "I'm racist and"
I work for a living. That discounts JIDF and working for an NGO. I'm not American either.
It's barely a town. At 3,500 it would be considered a "village" in the US.
That doesn't justify it's destruction you fucking demon.
Show me where I said that, faggot.
I want you to cite the exact line where I said "kill everyone in the town because it's small", you disingenuous shit head.
Niggers are terrified from losing access to Whitey
i hope the oranians are armed and willing, because i can totally see hordes of savage mutants storming their enclave with AK's and machetes
I hope so too, but once anyone fires a shot, the SA government will send in the military.
My prediction is that, whether planned or not, this “protest” will turn into a “sit in” - specifically, I predict that any blacks they bus down there will realize that they’d have a better life squatting in Orania than anywhere else in Africa.
I don’t think Orania can stop them at their borders. They don’t have walls (yet) so the blacks will just walk right in. Then they’ll just stay. And then someone will send another bus load. So Orania will have to work full time deporting them, and the “international community” will call that a crime.
a military composed of illterate chimps who can't even operate their machinery properly? i highly doubt there are any White SA in that, so it will be like Helm's deep where 1000 something warriors will repel dozens of thousands of niggers with their their semi-automatics
ofc, this scenario can only go sideways if the Jewnited states intervenes on behalf of the niggers (and they will, mark my fucking words those muttmericans in the US army would probably salivate over bombing another White country again)
A 70 IQ black can still drive an armored truck. Do the people in Orania have RPGs?
Even if they do, their peaceful way of life will be over once the shooting starts.
A nigger only understands violence, if he thinks you're a pacifist he will use that to his advantage and Nig far and wide
but once he realizes you can and WILL fight back, he will cease his nigging not out of respect, but out of fear.
I had a chance to move there in 2017 but ultimately decided to emigrate.
It’s a beautiful thing seeing my people recreate a smaller version of the SA I remember growing up in back in the 80’s, but I’ve always known that that place was doomed right from the start. A pioneering spirit and the desire for self governance are baked into the Afrikaner DNA, but the country is not the same place it was in 1902.
Orania cannot and will not be allowed to continue. Their every success is a scathing indictment on the majority black government and the globalists who pull their puppet strings. Eventually they’ll send government jackboots in there and kick off the forced removals and/or some ethnic cleansing (and if you doubt that, you know very little about African history). The media will run cover for them, the entire story will be covered up etc.
It’s ultimately why I decided to just leave the whole country instead. For the sake of the women and children who live there I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am.
Sadly, I think you are correct.
Waco 2.0
They'll burn the place down and say the Boers were diddling the kids that died in the attack
In the words of one of the leaders of their "solidarity" movement. They're not leaving because their family moved there in the 1600's, and this is their home. Yes, the government could kick in the doors, but at the same time, if they don't do this, then there is no where for them to go. They will become a scattered Afrikanner diaspora, and at that point, it really will have been a genocide because there won't be Afrikans at all.
I get it man, I heard the arguments my entire life. Still remember the picture of the Voortrekker monument that my grandparents had up in their dining room.
“Stand and fight, defend our people and our “taal”. Even if you have to die for it.”
All very patriotic and heroic and stuff, but again it’s not 1902 anymore. Even as a kid watching the country completely transform I understood just how screwed we were.
You have to understand that the nightmare scenario you guys in the US and Europe all worry about, being a minority in your own country just a few years from now, well we Afrikaners are already there for decades now.
We’re 4 million people against approximately 46 million Africans. Total demographic impotence. We cannot effect change in any meaningful way, even if we all somehow voted TEN times it still wouldn’t be enough to ever win another election.
We cannot pick up arms and violently take our country back either, because we’ve been mostly disarmed through decades of ever increasing gun controls. And even if we could somehow overthrow the gaggle of incompetent racist monkeys running our country it STILL wouldn’t matter because the “international community” of Globalists who pull their strings would pull out all the stops to keep their greasy fingers on all the infrastructure and resources they just spent the last 30 years acquiring. We would become the new Ukraine/Gaza in a heartbeat.
There’s a time for patriotism and duty to your people and there’s also a time for pragmatism and common sense. Staying in Africa under a Marxist government who are openly calling for your genocide and drafting new laws to sieze your land is not a winning strategy to me, it doesn’t matter whether you start your own town it will just be taken away from you by force.
The fact is the Afrikaans people are being slowly genocided anyway, our culture is shunned everywhere, our language is being pushed out of the institutions and schools, even our TV channels are slowly becoming “diverse” and no longer for us.
This is where I disagree with a lot of my countrymen because I believe that in order for our culture to survive we actually MUST leave. I’ve been in New Zealand for 7 years now, and while it’s a cucked leftist hell hole, there’s at least a large community of us here, enough that I still speak Afrikaans on a daily basis. And at least the government here don’t want to shoot my children with their machine gun (as the idiotic song goes).
I know from friends that there’s a sizeable bunch of us in the UK, US and Canada as well, all thriving. There are also a group who went to Argentina about 100 years ago and still speak the language there, so yeah I believe our culture can survive without being tied to a spit of land at the bottom of the world presided over by barbarians.
I DO wish the people of Orania well, and again I really hope I’m wrong and that the government will just leave them in peace, but it just doesn’t seem likely, man.
Meanwhile you have .01% trannies and 3% muslim changing the entire usa and western world.
Its amazing how cucked whites are in the last 100 years, especially last 15 years lol.
It's easy for minorities to wield disproportionate amounts of power when they're in the pocket of the powers that be.
I don't disagree, and I'm not saying you're wrong. At some point the brutal historical reality can't be ignored. Rhodesians do die, eventually. Before that happens, the question is where will you go. If you have to leave, you will be a diaspora. If you go someone else, you're basically starting again if you want to preserve your history.
In the US the Accadian settlers were forcibly removed by the British after their successful war with France in the "French-Indian War". They became a flotilla of refugees who couldn't make it back to France due to the conditions of their ships and people. They sailed the coast of the US until they found the only French colony that they could get to: Louisiana. When they arrived, the city of New Orleans basically told them that they were full, but would allow them to settle outside the city. Unfortunately, the area outside the city was impenetrable swamp land. They decided they had nothing left to lose, so they settled it anyway. Over-time, their accent changed in response to the harsh humidity of the swamps and the Acadians engaged slurred their names in a thick southern drawl and accidentally prompted them to engage in Ethnogenesis:
They became Cajuns.
The Accadians may have been French, but the Cajuns are not not French, not Canadian, and are distinctly and explicitly American.
If you leave, you and your descendants may become something else, maybe you'll become something else: like a New Zealander. But maybe you'll become something even more unique. But I suppose that depends on you more than anything.
I suspect that the Afrikanner diaspora will probably become something else to, probably more than one.
I hate the thought of this, but you’re probably correct. As much as it sucks though, as a parent my duty is to my three little children and prioritising their physical safety. New Zealand wasn’t my first choice (I always hoped to go to America but I’m in my 40’s already so it’s unlikely), but at least my kids are physically safe here. No one is coming to murder them in their beds just because of their skin colour. They’ll have a childhood with food, water and electricity - sorry to say but that’s more important to me than preserving culture. It’s Maslow’s hierarchy.
Having said that, I am still doing my best to teach them our language and all about their heritage etc, but yeah you’re probably right that we’ll eventually be watered down into something else.
Probably not kiwi though, whatever that is these days anyway. The way I’ve seen THEIR culture slowly being phased out and replaced through mass immigration of asians and pajeets has been crazy. It’s happening to the Aussies, Brits and Canadians too. I think ALL our cultures are in the same perilous position to be honest, some of us are just a little further along than others
Trots op de boer. Can never lose hope no matter how little.
Average niggers doing nigger things. The less white people there are the more the brown hordes push. Doesn’t matter if it’s American or African nigger, it’s all the same demanding loudmouthed parasite.
Every nigger city in the US was taken over by niggers. It won't surprise anyone that there is no city that exists began as a city for niggers.
Atlanta- we all know its history in the Confederacy Detroit- ruined in the 'great' migration of niggers Oakland- a White city until pedophiles demanded the subway run through there. Niggers took it over.
There were some cities that began as a place for niggers but none of them were completed and they failed before they even started. Even the one where White faggots helped the beasts build it failed.
Niggers would have long gone extinct without Whites
Posting the ghouls story again.
I wish these were the days when the mercenaries from Blood Diamond could rock up to a situation like this...
The Afrikaans have a very effective police & security force, and it did quite well in the 2021 riots, so I don't think the EFF are going to do much.
White people cannot be allowed to survive together. They must all die alone and separate.
All humans form tribes, groups, to survive. It's the most basic structure of humanity, undergirding the most basic truth of our existence. We're mortal, finite, and imperfect. We can achieve more together, than we can by ourselves. Alone, in a hostile world, is a death sentence. To rob someone of their most basic natural rights, to form groups with people like themselves, and to protect that group, is to deny them the purpose of those basic rights: survival.
The people that are denying White people our ability to congregate with our own, and to protect our own people, want us dead. There is no other conclusion.
And, due to the mainstream (corrupted and controlled) political right fully embracing self destructive individualism, to the point of completely abandoning all collective interests and merit, the mainstream right is a death sentence for White people, too. Due to the encroaching and increasingly obvious threat to White people, collectively, more of us are waking up to this reality, this harsh truth. We can either die alone, or fight together and win.
The tribe is essential to survival, yet one of the most tribal groups of all is dedicated to preventing Whites from standing together.
This same group is actively trying to criminalize discussion of "White genocide" as dangerous hate speech while simultaneously trumpeting about its glory under the euphemism of "diversity and cultural enrichment."
Yeah. Its why its retarded when i hear "gonna ignore all the white peepo dying and hide on my property with supplies and a fun." The commies will run over these people.
Orania is a curious case, you can see leftists openly notice its success, but they hate whites so much they still condemn them for get this, building a safe community, it's a combination of hate and envy, whites came to your continent, built efficient communities you as natives wouldn't manage to build in another 100000 years despite being in Africa forever, regardless of what way you look at it, you cannot help but notice that you are indeed inferior as a shitskin, nothing is stopping them from building their Onaria like black towns and thriving there, but of course niggers were never capable of creating, only destroying.
The guy in the middle there looks uncomfortable with the idea of wearing clothes. Like a dog wearing a Christmas sweater.
The sign holder to the far left has a good ol smirk on his gob. He is white but clearly not British. I'm sure he was the one who organized this, designed and printed out the signs. Literal goblin.
I hope people who argue secession and fleeing understand why it never works. If a communist doesn't have control over every aspect of every life of every part of the earth, then their racket can't expand, and they inevitably must attack. Race Communism changes nothing.
Communism = understanding there are racial collective interests (according to you).
LOL. You are a clown worthy of all scorn and derisive laughter.
he's not White (he's probably jewish) that's why he's scared of White nationalism.
I've seen this specific argument pop up a lot lately (that Gizortnik made) within the last year, and every single person that makes it is vociferously anti-White, antagonistic toward any White collectivism, and is always mainstream (controlled opposition) right wing. They almost invariably use terms like "stormfag". And, they never, ever aim this argument toward any other race. It's exclusively, and only, aimed at White people, if we dare to suggest we must collectivize to survive. It's insanely stupid, hypocritical, and disingenuous.
You think Orania are "communists" because they don't accept non Whites in to their community? if that is your definition of what communism is that doesn't make it bad it just makes communism look good.
Orania hopefully isn't considering peace a suicide pact. They will be forced to defend themselves, within our lifetimes.
yeah but apartheid was baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad