I get it man, I heard the arguments my entire life. Still remember the picture of the Voortrekker monument that my grandparents had up in their dining room.
“Stand and fight, defend our people and our “taal”. Even if you have to die for it.”
All very patriotic and heroic and stuff, but again it’s not 1902 anymore. Even as a kid watching the country completely transform I understood just how screwed we were.
You have to understand that the nightmare scenario you guys in the US and Europe all worry about, being a minority in your own country just a few years from now, well we Afrikaners are already there for decades now.
We’re 4 million people against approximately 46 million Africans. Total demographic impotence. We cannot effect change in any meaningful way, even if we all somehow voted TEN times it still wouldn’t be enough to ever win another election.
We cannot pick up arms and violently take our country back either, because we’ve been mostly disarmed through decades of ever increasing gun controls. And even if we could somehow overthrow the gaggle of incompetent racist monkeys running our country it STILL wouldn’t matter because the “international community” of Globalists who pull their strings would pull out all the stops to keep their greasy fingers on all the infrastructure and resources they just spent the last 30 years acquiring. We would become the new Ukraine/Gaza in a heartbeat.
There’s a time for patriotism and duty to your people and there’s also a time for pragmatism and common sense. Staying in Africa under a Marxist government who are openly calling for your genocide and drafting new laws to sieze your land is not a winning strategy to me, it doesn’t matter whether you start your own town it will just be taken away from you by force.
The fact is the Afrikaans people are being slowly genocided anyway, our culture is shunned everywhere, our language is being pushed out of the institutions and schools, even our TV channels are slowly becoming “diverse” and no longer for us.
This is where I disagree with a lot of my countrymen because I believe that in order for our culture to survive we actually MUST leave. I’ve been in New Zealand for 7 years now, and while it’s a cucked leftist hell hole, there’s at least a large community of us here, enough that I still speak Afrikaans on a daily basis. And at least the government here don’t want to shoot my children with their machine gun (as the idiotic song goes).
I know from friends that there’s a sizeable bunch of us in the UK, US and Canada as well, all thriving. There are also a group who went to Argentina about 100 years ago and still speak the language there, so yeah I believe our culture can survive without being tied to a spit of land at the bottom of the world presided over by barbarians.
I DO wish the people of Orania well, and again I really hope I’m wrong and that the government will just leave them in peace, but it just doesn’t seem likely, man.
I don't disagree, and I'm not saying you're wrong. At some point the brutal historical reality can't be ignored. Rhodesians do die, eventually. Before that happens, the question is where will you go. If you have to leave, you will be a diaspora. If you go someone else, you're basically starting again if you want to preserve your history.
In the US the Accadian settlers were forcibly removed by the British after their successful war with France in the "French-Indian War". They became a flotilla of refugees who couldn't make it back to France due to the conditions of their ships and people. They sailed the coast of the US until they found the only French colony that they could get to: Louisiana. When they arrived, the city of New Orleans basically told them that they were full, but would allow them to settle outside the city. Unfortunately, the area outside the city was impenetrable swamp land. They decided they had nothing left to lose, so they settled it anyway. Over-time, their accent changed in response to the harsh humidity of the swamps and the Acadians engaged slurred their names in a thick southern drawl and accidentally prompted them to engage in Ethnogenesis:
The Accadians may have been French, but the Cajuns are not not French, not Canadian, and are distinctly and explicitly American.
If you leave, you and your descendants may become something else, maybe you'll become something else: like a New Zealander. But maybe you'll become something even more unique. But I suppose that depends on you more than anything.
I suspect that the Afrikanner diaspora will probably become something else to, probably more than one.
I suspect that the Afrikanner diaspora will probably become something else to, probably more than one.
I hate the thought of this, but you’re probably correct. As much as it sucks though, as a parent my duty is to my three little children and prioritising their physical safety. New Zealand wasn’t my first choice (I always hoped to go to America but I’m in my 40’s already so it’s unlikely), but at least my kids are physically safe here. No one is coming to murder them in their beds just because of their skin colour. They’ll have a childhood with food, water and electricity - sorry to say but that’s more important to me than preserving culture. It’s Maslow’s hierarchy.
Having said that, I am still doing my best to teach them our language and all about their heritage etc, but yeah you’re probably right that we’ll eventually be watered down into something else.
Probably not kiwi though, whatever that is these days anyway. The way I’ve seen THEIR culture slowly being phased out and replaced through mass immigration of asians and pajeets has been crazy. It’s happening to the Aussies, Brits and Canadians too. I think ALL our cultures are in the same perilous position to be honest, some of us are just a little further along than others
I get it man, I heard the arguments my entire life. Still remember the picture of the Voortrekker monument that my grandparents had up in their dining room.
“Stand and fight, defend our people and our “taal”. Even if you have to die for it.”
All very patriotic and heroic and stuff, but again it’s not 1902 anymore. Even as a kid watching the country completely transform I understood just how screwed we were.
You have to understand that the nightmare scenario you guys in the US and Europe all worry about, being a minority in your own country just a few years from now, well we Afrikaners are already there for decades now.
We’re 4 million people against approximately 46 million Africans. Total demographic impotence. We cannot effect change in any meaningful way, even if we all somehow voted TEN times it still wouldn’t be enough to ever win another election.
We cannot pick up arms and violently take our country back either, because we’ve been mostly disarmed through decades of ever increasing gun controls. And even if we could somehow overthrow the gaggle of incompetent racist monkeys running our country it STILL wouldn’t matter because the “international community” of Globalists who pull their strings would pull out all the stops to keep their greasy fingers on all the infrastructure and resources they just spent the last 30 years acquiring. We would become the new Ukraine/Gaza in a heartbeat.
There’s a time for patriotism and duty to your people and there’s also a time for pragmatism and common sense. Staying in Africa under a Marxist government who are openly calling for your genocide and drafting new laws to sieze your land is not a winning strategy to me, it doesn’t matter whether you start your own town it will just be taken away from you by force.
The fact is the Afrikaans people are being slowly genocided anyway, our culture is shunned everywhere, our language is being pushed out of the institutions and schools, even our TV channels are slowly becoming “diverse” and no longer for us.
This is where I disagree with a lot of my countrymen because I believe that in order for our culture to survive we actually MUST leave. I’ve been in New Zealand for 7 years now, and while it’s a cucked leftist hell hole, there’s at least a large community of us here, enough that I still speak Afrikaans on a daily basis. And at least the government here don’t want to shoot my children with their machine gun (as the idiotic song goes).
I know from friends that there’s a sizeable bunch of us in the UK, US and Canada as well, all thriving. There are also a group who went to Argentina about 100 years ago and still speak the language there, so yeah I believe our culture can survive without being tied to a spit of land at the bottom of the world presided over by barbarians.
I DO wish the people of Orania well, and again I really hope I’m wrong and that the government will just leave them in peace, but it just doesn’t seem likely, man.
Meanwhile you have .01% trannies and 3% muslim changing the entire usa and western world.
Its amazing how cucked whites are in the last 100 years, especially last 15 years lol.
It's easy for minorities to wield disproportionate amounts of power when they're in the pocket of the powers that be.
I don't disagree, and I'm not saying you're wrong. At some point the brutal historical reality can't be ignored. Rhodesians do die, eventually. Before that happens, the question is where will you go. If you have to leave, you will be a diaspora. If you go someone else, you're basically starting again if you want to preserve your history.
In the US the Accadian settlers were forcibly removed by the British after their successful war with France in the "French-Indian War". They became a flotilla of refugees who couldn't make it back to France due to the conditions of their ships and people. They sailed the coast of the US until they found the only French colony that they could get to: Louisiana. When they arrived, the city of New Orleans basically told them that they were full, but would allow them to settle outside the city. Unfortunately, the area outside the city was impenetrable swamp land. They decided they had nothing left to lose, so they settled it anyway. Over-time, their accent changed in response to the harsh humidity of the swamps and the Acadians engaged slurred their names in a thick southern drawl and accidentally prompted them to engage in Ethnogenesis:
They became Cajuns.
The Accadians may have been French, but the Cajuns are not not French, not Canadian, and are distinctly and explicitly American.
If you leave, you and your descendants may become something else, maybe you'll become something else: like a New Zealander. But maybe you'll become something even more unique. But I suppose that depends on you more than anything.
I suspect that the Afrikanner diaspora will probably become something else to, probably more than one.
I hate the thought of this, but you’re probably correct. As much as it sucks though, as a parent my duty is to my three little children and prioritising their physical safety. New Zealand wasn’t my first choice (I always hoped to go to America but I’m in my 40’s already so it’s unlikely), but at least my kids are physically safe here. No one is coming to murder them in their beds just because of their skin colour. They’ll have a childhood with food, water and electricity - sorry to say but that’s more important to me than preserving culture. It’s Maslow’s hierarchy.
Having said that, I am still doing my best to teach them our language and all about their heritage etc, but yeah you’re probably right that we’ll eventually be watered down into something else.
Probably not kiwi though, whatever that is these days anyway. The way I’ve seen THEIR culture slowly being phased out and replaced through mass immigration of asians and pajeets has been crazy. It’s happening to the Aussies, Brits and Canadians too. I think ALL our cultures are in the same perilous position to be honest, some of us are just a little further along than others
Trots op de boer. Can never lose hope no matter how little.