And so America walks, stops funding or assisting Ukraine, Europe cries out using it's media to try and turn American public to change his mind before Putin curbstomps a now depleted Ukrainian military.
I can see the media trying to paint this as 'Trump's Afghanistan' but in reality, I don't see the American public even caring. The bigger thing this will do is show the Europeans as toothless and reliant on the US for defence so it'll push the elites there to spend more on defence weakening the left there indirectly.
He doesn't care. He already has billions salted away. He gets to flee and then peacocks around the world begging for even more money as a government-in-exile.
I think it's more than just greed, I'm sure he knows full well what happens to CIA assets that are no longer useful. As long as the war continues he stays alive, as soon as it's over....
The longer the fighting goes on the more money he (and his puppetmasters and co-conspirators) gets.
Additionally there is a very real possibility that Zelensky gets assassinated by his own people when this conflict ends.
As his only supporters are those that are corrupt, who will likely vanish into the shadows with their ill gotten gains and abandon him, and those that are the extremists that believe the BS he spews.
The moment the war ends he loses any and all support he could ever have. The anti war group (a majority in Ukraine, even in the areas not aligned with Russia), hates Zelensky for his blatant corruption, and for using Ukrainian people as cannon fodder. They will not turn around to support him, not after all the extreme measures he did.
The true believers and zealots will turn against him, because he "didn't do enough."
And the puppetmasters and cronies grifting off the war will dump him for no longer being useful.
I give him less than a year the moment the conflict ends.
If I had a nickel for everytime someone said white people will totally rise up and assassinate a dude who is killing off all the said white people, but then didn't, I would have a depressingly large amount of nickels. Dude, I really wish that is true but I think the Ukrainians will just have the majority of their men get killed while Zelensky flees somewhere. Maybe he gets killed by the CIA later, maybe he gets off scot free. The Ukrainian women will (best case scenario) get taken by Russian men. Worst case scenario, they will continue to wander around cluelessly till they die off too.
Keep in mind, Ukrainians have very recently assassinated several people that were deemed their political enemies. So they already do believe in the usage of such methods so much so that they actively employ them.
Interesting. But their people have been in a meat grinder for years now. If they were going to do something it would have been back a while. And Zelensky... Has ties that might just deter such methods. I guess we will see them.
ironically, his best chance to survive this is to get captured by the Russians and spill the beans. not saying its a good chance but the alternatives are worse.
I don't understand why people worship this guy. The media made him who he is. People give him credit for what foreign military commanders, strategists, advisors, etc do behind the scenes. He is just the facade. Nobody will remember him once the war is over.
The war should have never happened. The EU acts like as usual. Baiting countries with EU membership knowing they'll never get it. Same applies here. I'm so tired of these "leaders" acting like they care about the people.
I don't worship him, and yes, there's more behind the scenes, but Russia was the one who started this war, and therefore Ukraine shouldn't have to make concessions, since it wasn't their fault.
Ukraine had nuclear weapons and agreed to disarm under the conditions the Russians promised no armed conflict. They get rid of their nukes and Russia attacks. Big kek.
What was this for? I assume EU wants to galvanize the population in order to send more money, the EU does not have, to Ukraine to fight Russian Hitter?
Botched peace deals don't really work out. Just look at what happened to Vichy France. Half occupied, reduced military, and even with extreme collaboration, Germany Invaded again.
The terms Russia wants is pretty much the equivalent of the 1st partition of Poland.
He maxxed out his manpower. He doesn't have enough men to fight with. Ukraine had a manpower advantage explicitly because Russia wasn't trying to start a major war.
Even with good American weapons, the level of a general offensive needed to get Crimea is not possible. To take Donbass, he'd have to fight off popular resistance against his government. These aren't valid positions.
Honestly Crimea might be the thing he can get back.
Black Sea is no longer viable as a Russian navy base, and with that its value to Russia is zero.
The Ukrainians have also cut water since 2014, meaning there has been no irrigation for agriculture for a good decade.
If Ukraine was going to get anything back, it's Crimea. The Russians are more likely to insist on a buffer zone of some sort in the Eastern parts.
You are wildly misinformed both historically and on the latest situation.
Look at the map. The whole point of the other four regions that Russia has taken is to protect and re-connect Crimea. Crimea is the whole reason for this war, ultimately, just as it has been for hundreds of years.
As for the whole drone warfare in the sea -- eh, same thing as always during war. New technology temporarily changes the balance which then shifts again a few years later. It's already shifting.
Submarines and airplanes and magnetic mines did not make naval bases irrelevant. They made large dreadnoughts irrelevant.
And so America walks, stops funding or assisting Ukraine, Europe cries out using it's media to try and turn American public to change his mind before Putin curbstomps a now depleted Ukrainian military.
I can see the media trying to paint this as 'Trump's Afghanistan' but in reality, I don't see the American public even caring. The bigger thing this will do is show the Europeans as toothless and reliant on the US for defence so it'll push the elites there to spend more on defence weakening the left there indirectly.
All the Ukraine hype has completely died down. No one cares anymore.
changes ukraine flag on pfp to Maryland father
It's all about the poor Pawestinians these days
Russia is going to keep everything. The only question is how much more of Ukraine does Zelenskyy want to lose before he surrenders.
He doesn't care. He already has billions salted away. He gets to flee and then peacocks around the world begging for even more money as a government-in-exile.
He totally cares about dragging this on as long as possible to steal more billions.
Ukrainian oligarchs have a great grift going, why would they stop? It's not like they have to live with the consequences.
I think it's more than just greed, I'm sure he knows full well what happens to CIA assets that are no longer useful. As long as the war continues he stays alive, as soon as it's over....
The longer the fighting goes on the more money he (and his puppetmasters and co-conspirators) gets.
Additionally there is a very real possibility that Zelensky gets assassinated by his own people when this conflict ends.
As his only supporters are those that are corrupt, who will likely vanish into the shadows with their ill gotten gains and abandon him, and those that are the extremists that believe the BS he spews.
The moment the war ends he loses any and all support he could ever have. The anti war group (a majority in Ukraine, even in the areas not aligned with Russia), hates Zelensky for his blatant corruption, and for using Ukrainian people as cannon fodder. They will not turn around to support him, not after all the extreme measures he did.
The true believers and zealots will turn against him, because he "didn't do enough."
And the puppetmasters and cronies grifting off the war will dump him for no longer being useful.
I give him less than a year the moment the conflict ends.
If I had a nickel for everytime someone said white people will totally rise up and assassinate a dude who is killing off all the said white people, but then didn't, I would have a depressingly large amount of nickels. Dude, I really wish that is true but I think the Ukrainians will just have the majority of their men get killed while Zelensky flees somewhere. Maybe he gets killed by the CIA later, maybe he gets off scot free. The Ukrainian women will (best case scenario) get taken by Russian men. Worst case scenario, they will continue to wander around cluelessly till they die off too.
Keep in mind, Ukrainians have very recently assassinated several people that were deemed their political enemies. So they already do believe in the usage of such methods so much so that they actively employ them.
Interesting. But their people have been in a meat grinder for years now. If they were going to do something it would have been back a while. And Zelensky... Has ties that might just deter such methods. I guess we will see them.
ironically, his best chance to survive this is to get captured by the Russians and spill the beans. not saying its a good chance but the alternatives are worse.
Still gotta save some for new Israel
He doesn't care about Ukraine. On the contrary. His sole goal is to get as many Whites and Christians killed before this all ends.
I don't understand why people worship this guy. The media made him who he is. People give him credit for what foreign military commanders, strategists, advisors, etc do behind the scenes. He is just the facade. Nobody will remember him once the war is over.
The war should have never happened. The EU acts like as usual. Baiting countries with EU membership knowing they'll never get it. Same applies here. I'm so tired of these "leaders" acting like they care about the people.
I don't worship him, and yes, there's more behind the scenes, but Russia was the one who started this war, and therefore Ukraine shouldn't have to make concessions, since it wasn't their fault.
The U.S. State Department backed a revolution that overthrew the Ukrainian president on 22 February, 2014. Russia invaded on 24 February, 2014.
Ukraine had nuclear weapons and agreed to disarm under the conditions the Russians promised no armed conflict. They get rid of their nukes and Russia attacks. Big kek.
And Zelenskyy's term didn't start until 2019. He gave Russia prisoner swaps, etc. to prevent the invasion, but Russia attacked anyway.
Zelenskyy tried to mend its relationship with it's breakaway regions and Russia. Putin's a warmonger, plain and simple.
Just one more weapons shipment bro we totally beat those ruskies
He seems so fake whenever he speaks.
What was this for? I assume EU wants to galvanize the population in order to send more money, the EU does not have, to Ukraine to fight Russian Hitter?
you fucking lost you retard
quit while you're still alive
He will die when the war ends. His supporter and corrupt thug got murdered recently in odessa
Delusional midget continues to attempt grifting.
Botched peace deals don't really work out. Just look at what happened to Vichy France. Half occupied, reduced military, and even with extreme collaboration, Germany Invaded again.
The terms Russia wants is pretty much the equivalent of the 1st partition of Poland.
You sound gay.
Takes one to know one.
When did Nazi Germany reinvade Vichy France?
After the Americans landed in Tunisia? After Allied Victories in North Africa and Sicily? After the D-Day Normandy landings?
Normandy didn't happen until '44
And Vichy France already worked with Germany, so the invasion war unprovoked.
As he refuses any compromise Russia has two options: take all of Ukraine or assassinate him to make way for someone who's not delusional.
He maxxed out his manpower. He doesn't have enough men to fight with. Ukraine had a manpower advantage explicitly because Russia wasn't trying to start a major war.
Even with good American weapons, the level of a general offensive needed to get Crimea is not possible. To take Donbass, he'd have to fight off popular resistance against his government. These aren't valid positions.
Can we finally leave Ukraine and focus on developing our economy and increase the deportation rate?
They can all die in in a nuclear blast for all I care. Corrupted toxic scum.
Honestly Crimea might be the thing he can get back. Black Sea is no longer viable as a Russian navy base, and with that its value to Russia is zero. The Ukrainians have also cut water since 2014, meaning there has been no irrigation for agriculture for a good decade.
If Ukraine was going to get anything back, it's Crimea. The Russians are more likely to insist on a buffer zone of some sort in the Eastern parts.
You are wildly misinformed both historically and on the latest situation.
Look at the map. The whole point of the other four regions that Russia has taken is to protect and re-connect Crimea. Crimea is the whole reason for this war, ultimately, just as it has been for hundreds of years.
As for the whole drone warfare in the sea -- eh, same thing as always during war. New technology temporarily changes the balance which then shifts again a few years later. It's already shifting.
Submarines and airplanes and magnetic mines did not make naval bases irrelevant. They made large dreadnoughts irrelevant.
Naval bases are forever