Sunk Cost fallacy from Lefty Friends
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I grew up with the post-911 era being my first foray into the political realm. It was the Left raging against pharmaceutical corporations for abusing and manipulating sick and helpless people, extorting them to get rich. It was the Left raging against war in foreign nations, demanding that America stop bullying weak people and use its power for good. It was Lefty spiritual women using essential oils and healing crystals in place of vaccines and (functional) medications. It was the Left fighting against prudishness and unnecessary censorship because some old women and disconnected men were offended. It was the Left exalting and early-adopting electric cars because environmentalism was in vogue and An Inconvenient Truth had just come out.
Ever since Trump came along and disrupted their power, the entire board flipped. Big Pharma is my friend, take the shots, stop asking questions, where are your papers? Slava Ukrainia, kill Russias, kill Putin, destroy them utterly and leave no structure standing. Refusing a new and untested vaccine is now 100% anti-vax, no distinction between all in and all out. Censor, block, ban, and imprison anyone and everyone who harms or offends the Special Minorities, and a few new ones we made up to fill in the gaps. I cut off my dick, surgically attached fake tits, dug a hole into my taint, and inject myself constantly with artificially manufactured hormones to transform myself into a woman, you are not allowed to disagree, The Science says so. Burn down all Tesla shops, garages, and cars; threaten their owners, they deserve it for financing Elon.
There is no one on earth more sunk-cost, Dunning-Kruger, subhuman IQ, Mass Formation Psychosis than the political Left Wing, and no one on earth more evil than the people manipulating them into ruining our nations and our future as a species.
100% agree.
SJWs always lie: note laws 1 & 3.
And when you call them on it, they will also do law 2: double down.
So this whole spiel in the OP? Totally applies to the utopian left more than anyone on the right.
Oh please. All I have to do is mention Bill Gates and vaccines in the same sentence and you people turn into screeching retards.
Since we're talking screeching retards: Extinction Rebellion is worse than any amount of anti-vaxx sentiment you can muster. Plus, they believe in 'The Science.'
The right wing is only barely better, you just may not see it because either you're one of them, or you're sympathetic to them.
All you have to do is mention 'seed oils' or the Covid vaccine and you'll see the NPCs on the right activate with their copy-pasted talking points and boring repetitive slogans they repeat ad nauseum.
re: the vaccine, it's 2025. Absolutely nobody cares anymore. But most of these retards on the right will be in their nursing homes in forty years drooling and slurring while raving to the staff about a vaccine that nobody even remembers was real. Even in the last five years, literally every single newsworthy death has "LOL OMG VAXXED" as the top comment, even if the death in question was a 104-year old who died after being hit by a car. Doesn't matter, "VAXXED CLOTSHOT PFIZERED".
re: seed oils - the right barely knows what a fucking seed oil is, and literally cannot explain what the problem is, because they don't know. They can mimic sounds and words like 'polyunsaturated fat' but if you ask them to describe what a PUFA is they can only stare blankly because they can just repeat noises like a parrot, without knowing what they're saying. Sunflower Oil is considered one of their accursed 'seed oils' yet sunflower oil has very low PUFAs and is literally used in the 'olive oil countries' because of its high smoke point. It also can be cold-pressed and extracted without weird chemical tricks (which they also can't explain why they are bad). Point is, they don't actually know anything, which is why sunflower oil wrongly gets smeared as 'ew seed oil', they can only repeat their doctrine.
Fun fact: Bill Gates never said anything about using vaccines to depopulate the world. He gave a TED Talk on using vaccines to decrease child mortality in the third world, which would eventually reduce the number of children people have just like what happened in Western cultures when we moved away from farming so there was less need to have 6-8 children to work the farm. It's like a ten minute talk and that's ten minutes too long for anyone who raves about Bill Gates to bother with, mostly because it might tell them something they didn't want to hear. So it's easier for them to just pretend they watched it so they can continue believing a retarded lie.
In fact the clip everyone likes to use, this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtkfWaCzsas
Literally cuts where it does because the next thing he says is that the population growth he mentions, 6.8 billion -> 9 billion, or 2.2 billion, "but there we see an increase of about 1.3", meaning there's no depopulation, it's about slowing the rate of growth, you know, like what happened in every developed society, while third worlders still breed like rabbits.
It's fucking dumb and i you were fooled by this, you also are fucking dumb, because how fucking dumb do you have to be to literally just believe something on the internet without looking into it yourself further?
Yes. This is why there's no point arguing with people who rant about global warming. If they were rational, cambrian era CO2 data would have been enough to convince them they were wrong.
Just pointing out that the mass production of those stupid little bullcraps you can find at every check out counter in walmarts, targets, walgreens, you know the plastic and rubber shit you see for a buck or two. All made in taiwan, china, vietnam by the millions, all loaded into shipping containers and thrown by the hundreds onto massive cargo freighters that burn a miliion tons of fuel to get it to a port just to be driver around the country.
That alone produced more co2 pollution than every car on the planet combined for a year.
These super freighters are the biggest producers of pollution for vehicles and if they believed in global warming they would support more isolationist policies and demand that all of these inconsequential little knick knacks be made in their country just to cut down on the polution.
IIRC, the real problem with huge tanker ships is the sulfur-based pollution they emit.
This.
Big ships run high sulfur "bunker diesel" as it is the cheapest fuel possible. The ships spend most of their time in international waters, where there is no emissions regulation.
Diesel Trucks have catalytic converters and newer trucks treat their exhaust with Add Blue to catalase the nitrate emissions. There are efforts to regulate emissions of micro-fine soot particles; which contain the odd radioactive Carbon 14 particle.
CO2 emissions can be offset by forestry efforts. Sulfates and Nitrates cause acid rain. Micro-fine soot is radioactive and causes cancer, especially in big cities where the density is high.
I am not a fan of DPF filters, it is a stupid way to regulate exhaust emissions and is a ploy to force obsolescence of older trucks. Still, emissions testing and regular rebuilds are desirable. You can rebuild old trucks forever with the correct motivation.
Well, yes and no. Multiplication is a bitch.
In terms of emissions per tonnage mile ships are actually pretty efficient and OTR trucks are godawful terrible. But if we wanted to really kill emissions we'd get rid of air travel.
Instead, the global elites (who are telling how how dire the situation is and insisting we need to live in mud huts and eat ze' bugs) are cutting down many square miles of the Amazon rain forest to build a new road so thousands of people can fly halfway around the world in private jets to meet to tell us we need to change our entire way of living in order to save the planet.
I have nothing but scorn for people who can't see right through this shit.
What? Life on the planet barely even existed in the Cambrian era, how the fuck is that your argument? Do you even know what you're saying, or is this just repeating a talking point?
'gUyS dOn'T wOrRy AbOuT cO2 BecAuSe SiNgLe CeLl LiFe CoUlD sTiLl ExIsT'
Your reference is a time before the planet even had fucking trees?
Wrong.
Simple. Since the GOE, the UPPER LIMIT of CO2 concentration of the atmosphere has been defined by the LOWER LIMIT of plant life to survive in a CO2 starved environment.
The successive evolution of C3, C4, and CAM respiratory cycles have been the major breakpoints in allowing successively lower and lower CO2 concentrations. Were it not for human intervention, it's entirely possible that C3 life would be suffocated out by the more advanced cycles.
The immediate retort is "if plants are so greedy that they're the limiting factor then how is CO2 concentration climbing?" The answer is evolution. It takes time for plant life to respond to increased CO2 concentration by shifting from more investment in reproduction to more investment in photosynthesis. Also, on a geologic scale, we've barely nudged the needle for atmospheric concentration. A few percent, when over geologic timescales Earth has seen sustained periods of life where the concentration was 10 times higher.
We ARE seeing a transition occur, NASA has confirmed the Earth is becoming "greener" as plants react to the sustained increase in available CO2.
During the time of the dinosaurs, CO2 concentration was such that plant growth was much faster than it is today.
The left has convinced itself that they are the only moral people in the room, and that everyone else is morally depraved, and by extension evil.
I keep saying this, over and over again, but Visions of the Anointed by Thomas Sowell should be required reading for the dissident right. We are up against the Anointed.
Jones Town was a literal Lefty cult that was deeply entrenched into the Democratic California Political machine, and it ended with two US congressmen dead and a mass suicide.
These are the people we're dealing with.
It’s right in their face and they can’t even see it, or refuse to. They gleefully swallow The Narrative and are the source of every cognitive dissonance and mass hypnosis discussion, but because The Narrative tells them they are The Enlightened and are faithful to The Science, they somehow believe themselves immune to cognitive dissonance as every study they propped up for decades is found to be fraudulent, malicious, or flat out made up.
the left in a nutshell. Usually with cognitive dissonance, you have aggression appearing when the mind cannot reconcile the inconsistency, you don't see that happening here like how leftoids would want others to believe.
Wow… the utter projection here.
I, and a lot of my like minded friends, didn’t vote for Trump because he’s a cult leader or even that he has the best ideas.
We voted for him because he at least cares about America and is doing what he can to defend and strengthen her. That and because he trolls the libs.
Yeah we have numerous high profile examples of MAGA supporters openly disagreeing with Trump in large numbers.
The most notable ones are the clot shot, H-1b visas, and Israel. (tho the Israel one is a bit more split)
Meanwhile, Libs are terrified of stepping out of line no matter the topic.
It was the same thing with Rush Limbaugh in the 90s. Leftists 'reeeed at all the mind numbed "dittoheads" who just slavishly ate up whatever Rush said. Even V for Vendetta had Lewis Prothero as a Rush Limbaugh insert.
If you're young enough, what you don't see is the failing counter propaganda the left used to attack Rush Limbaugh. Won't find it on the internet, won't find the TV specials. Wiped clean because we can't discuss "failures". (Mainly I'm thinking of an early internet comic that made the rounds showing Rush Limbaugh inspiring a nazi-esque takeover of the US while consuming everything insight. Or an (i think it was ABC) hour long all female driven comedy special to salute... women... to counter Rush' 'feminazi' attacks that it was just a leftist political movement, that had a segment with a Rush Limbaugh-like character breaking down during a show and calling for his mommy.)
One of my earliest experiences with networked computers was dialing up a local BBS in the mid 90s. It had a door program that opened when anyone connected of an animated ASCII Bill Clinton and “XYZ days remaining in the raw deal” (countdown till the election).
That was before the Internet was remotely popular and before normies ruined online spaces.
Methinks the faggots doth protest too much.
What was the conversation that led to this tidbit of information being shared?
Sigh, are they talking about Trump?
They've been posting the image and then saying it's Trump's followers.
All of his actual supporters LOVE what he's doing now, it's what we wanted from his first term too.
This is more accurate to them refusing to admit Biden being a sham or the 2020 election being fraudulent, even with overwhelming evidence and after the disappearance of 20 million voters in 24. But leftists always project.
This theoretical cult member went broke one time and gave up on life. Maybe they're just weak willed. I know people that have gone broke many times, and they're doing fine.
Its so easy to show how this is more true of leftists than of Trump supporters. Most Trump supporters can have rational conversations about why they support the man, even be willing to criticize him.
Leftists, like OPs friends, can only react emotionally and resort to pseudo-name calling, like in this post. I guarantee people in actual cults think everyone else is a rube, too.
I'm pretty sure someone had already proposed the concept of cognitive dissonance before the sixties.
Again, your friends are morons.
Yes, plenty of cults in the sixties.
But this is a repackaging of an idea that existed decades prior. And the core of it goes back to the history of humanity. Some people don't like to admit that they're wrong.
A leftoid stuffed shirt acting smug about regurgitating someone else's plagiarized idea? That is about as oh so typical as it's possible to be.
I'll just delete what I said because, upon looking this guy up to do more research, he didn't even do it in the 60s. His book was in 56 and was based on the mass surge of UFO cults instead and things like "automatic writing" involved with them. Another interesting and forgotten tidbit of American history there.
But the cognitive dissonance theory is vaguely useful from that point onward, even if it was basic knowledge prior, in terms of being able to recognize when people are engaging in thoughts and behaviors and dissect them to either dismantle or abuse them. Very useful for cult deprogramming later, and probably would be well known if the Left didn't need to keep that shit underwraps to control their Plantation.
So far Trump has done everything I expected him to, I do not regret my vote at all.
A recession caused by hollowing out the fake money laundering grift machine that the federal government has turned into, which was so big it became a pillar of the US economy. A recession is a bargain price to pay for this win.
Who would you rather have, a population of stubborn individuals with whom it's hard to sway, or a swathe of bio-robots that can be immediately programmed with whatever narrative you desire provided it is being delivered by the right person or institution?
Poisoning the food supply is a huge part of making that work.
For a contemporary example just look.at the way leftists only get more frantic and hateful every time Trump beats them, instead of letting even a single fact break through their.defenses.
The more you sacrifice.
This is why I hate 'conspiracy theory'.
It's like all these retards demanding the JFK files or Epstein list, thinking it will 'vindicate' them. There's only two possibilities:
The files tell them exactly what they wanted to hear.
The files do not.
In the case of #2, do you think any conspiracy theorist will ever say "wow maybe we were wrong"? Nope! Have you ever heard of any conspiracy theorist, anywhere, ever looking at all their evidence and going 'yeah I think maybe we're wrong on this one'? It has never happened, and if they were actually following evidence and logic, shouldn't it happen all the time?
They will double down, and now insist that the files were altered/covered up and the conspiracy is now even deeper, and they will insist that somehow, on every single topic, that magically their own beliefs are certain to end up being correct about everything, every time, and any time they aren't correct, it's because they actually still are correct but reasons reasons reasons.
You can't even get retards who believe HAARP is weather control to admit they were fucking duped, when the actual origination of that conspiracy theory was some faggot making it the fuck up to sell a book. He had zero whistleblower testimony, no leaked government documents, no scientific analysis of the technology, and no attempt at all to infiltrate the facility or rent its use to explore what it can do.
He literally just made it the fuck up so he could pay his rent.
And that's now permanently a belief that the subhuman conspiracy theorist crowd will take to their graves, and if you challenge them on it, they activate their NPC programming and just babble retarded shit about cloud seeding.
Why is it so difficult for them to understand that we love Trump as a weapon to destroy and remove everything they represent? If another candidate comes out and was actually radical, I'd bail on Trump instantly.