What does playing an actual guitar actually benefit your daily life and productivity? Since we know this is the metric by which he judges all activities of worth or not, what does playing guitar actually do? Get you laid a little easier? If that considering how hokey and cringe most guitar guys are, on top of their prevalence making it not very unique.
So you gain a pretty useless skill that is nice to have for your own sake, but has no major unique value unless you are the 1% going into a major band. Otherwise you are just that guy with a guitar people are hoping doesn't start playing it.
Comparatively, this is a major accomplishment that people by the shitload know is special. Its top tier nerd stuff, but its still a very top end accomplishment and he likely earned and will earn a lot of money off the attempts and accomplishment. Its might not be a large amount, but not many people can monetize their hobbies to begin with.
Like all Walsh type guys, its just "things my grandpa did are BASED AND ALWAYS GOOD, while things kids are doing are STUPID AND WASTES OF TIME." And he hides this behind metrics that require you to not turn the question back on his assumption, because obviously they are good things because his daddy said so.
Note, this isn't hating on guys playing guitar. Have your hobby and enjoy it.
The difference being a real instrument has cultural value built up over centuries, and playing an instrument continues a human tradition that has existed since pre-history.
Guitar hero is fun, but it was always a cheap imitation of being a real musician. Like trannyism, it tricks your brain into thinking you are something you are not to satisfy a fantasy. On its own, there's nothing wrong with this as long as you know it's escapism.
The point where it becomes sad is when you can't escape the fantasy, deciding that dedicating your life to this cheap imitation is worth more than the real thing.
Learn to play a guitar, and by proxy, you can learn to play just about any conventionally-designed guitar, as well as opening the door to a wider variety of stringed instruments. It's like learning to paint or driving stick. Skills you don't need to live, but can make your life easier and can give you more vocational options in the future should you decide to pursue it as a career.
The difference being a real instrument has cultural value built up over centuries
So good because your grandpa did it, exactly.
My point isn't that guitar isn't a great thing to do. Its to breakdown what makes it so special that it escapes the scrutiny of guy's like Walsh who have very harsh opinions on anyone's time spent that isn't "dance for women, make money, be a stereotype."
And the only difference is that its older, so it holds more "conservative value" than that new thing kids do that Walsh doesn't understand.
To use a different set of examples. Building and painting little plastic Gundam or 40k models would probably be considered stupid, but building and painting little plastic car models would be fine. And building watches (a lot of the same skills) would be a culturally valuable hobby from centuries ago.
Point is there is no objective metric at play, only subjective values. And even those are unevenly applied by guys like him. But he parades it as undeniable facts of the universe that everyone must agree with. Playing guitar is a more valuable hobby to have, but people only treat it so because they think its cool despite how much of a waste of time it is for 90% of the people doing it, while attacking wastes of time like the guy with the plastic garbage.
Guitar hero is fun, but it was always a cheap imitation of being a real musician
Or it was just a video game people played for fun, without the need to self insert themselves.
Like trannyism, it tricks your brain into thinking you are something you are not to satisfy a fantasy.
99% of people don't obsess over GH nor think it makes you a real guitar player. Most of us just think "heh, I get to play Cult of Personality as Slash. Cool!"
Just like playing Arkham City doesn't make us think we're really Batman, we just like to pretend to be Batman for a little while.
The same difference I point out for the kind of people that play sports games. If you can do it irl with friends and it can carry over outside of video games then there's no excuse to do it in a video game. There's a line that needs to not be crossed
If you can do it irl with friends and it can carry over outside of video games then there's no excuse to do it in a video game
Some people work until its dark outside, or have jobs that leave them physically exhausted to not be able to perform without damaging themselves in outside activities, or just have a fucked schedule in general.
Should they just do nothing everyday of the week until they have the opportunity to on a day off or the like? Or can they turn on a dumb little de-stresser at 10pm and have a good time without it being the end of the world?
The era of "9-5 as a general rule" jobs is long since gone, and with it that semblance of "everyone can do this in their daily life."
That's a fair point. I've had this same view since Jr high but I still think it's a slippery slope into living life disconnected. It's the same reason I've always hated social media. I'm certainly not as hard-core about it anymore because I do understand the issues that can crop up
No doubt issues can crop up. Like all things, it needs moderation and balance.
If you spend all the work week killing time inside, you should absolutely try to go out on the weekend and socialize.
But at the same time if you are having fun, being happy, and not heavily regressing in your life's path I think most people should be allowed to do their thing.
He's having fun the way he wants to, I don't really get what the big deal is. If he's also earning money for it (which he seems to be), there's even less wrong with it.
The guy is probably autistic in some way too, as most extreme challenge/speed runners for games tend to be. I'd say he's probably better off doing this than wiping off scanners at Walmart for the rest of his life (until automated robots take those jobs away too).
If a political talking head who pushed for fucking Romney in 2016 is ever your measuring stick, you should probably take stock of your positions in life. You might not be able to understand why people consider this kind of thing as having value, but automatically looking down on what you don't understand could end up with you looking the fool in the future.
If Walsh was really concerned with that he would be crusading against no fault divorce. But instead the guy works for Ben Shapiro. I mean, come on lol.
So because he works for Ben Shapiro you should just ignore his actual expressed video points. Nevermind that he's critical of Israel despite working for Ben Israel First Shapiro
If you fail 50,000 times at something (obviously consecutively otherwise he'd stop) and you keep coming back, and that thing is over a decade past its window of public interest, deep autism is probably not the only motivating mental condition in play. You're also into OCD territory and God knows what else. Even being in the room while someone plays that song 50k times would drive you insane.
Sure, then he could be one of thousands of guitarists you might watch one video of on Youtube, if he's lucky. It hardly makes a difference. Maybe Walsh is such a lame bitch that he thinks being reasonably good at guitar is cool enough to immediately propel you to rockstar status, but that's not actually how it works in reality. The career path of the vast majority of guitarists starts at gigs and ends in a cubicle.
You gotta wonder what's going on in Walsh's life that he needs to comment on the productivity of highly autistic nerds playing video games. Dude must have been cucked by somebody with a NES collection or something, I swear to god.
What about you, Matt? Why do you spend your life on twitter and complain about what other could have done with their free time, when you could learn guitar yourself?
This. If Walsh were a rocket scientist or brain surgeon or someone otherwise engaged in productive activity his criticism would carry much more weight. As it is he's a glorified twitch streamer himself complaining about some other twitch streamer.
How much did he make in revenue off < 4.5 hours/day?
If he wasn't getting making decent incoming off it, the attempts/time seems excessive. But trying to do something obscure no one else has done is fine as a hobby. Just don't tunnel-vision.
Thing is though... he dropped that holds around :51, :55, :58, and 1:18 didn't he? Or do dropped holds not break combo in GH?
How much did he make in revenue off < 4.5 hours/day?
Probably greater than the likely 0$ (or less once you factor in equipment costs) he would have from learning actual guitar.
You could argue the opportunity costs from a real job means its a bad endeavor by how much more he could have had, but actual guitar is almost certainly a big zero on revenue.
By praise bands I mean Christian institutions like churches and schools that need a regular accompanist on their team. I don't know how much this guy is making on Twitch, but if he's clearing more than a few thousand a year, then yeah.
Though in my experience, its the same problem. The guitar spot is already filled by the literal pastor or a major member of the church and they need drums or keyboard constantly.
That is also true (better opportunities for guitarists the more megachurchy the church), but nothing stopping anyone from learning either of those other instruments lol.
Of course, but nobody is going around telling people "LEARN TO PLAY REAL DRUMS" if they played Donkey Konga or Rock Band, only the guitar specifically.
Because there is clearly something special about it to them that they aren't willing to admit. And its either because they know its useful for fucking women (not very trad or conservative) or because their dad/uncle/grandpa did it and that was cool to them.
I believe they got stricter about holds in later installments. It's been a long time, but I vaguely recall holds being basically optional in 3, but there being a minimum hold time in one of the non-numbered sequels.
Gamers skew male, and men skew conservative. Any “conservative” who is attacking gamers right now is essentially a saboteur. We’ve just started fighting this culture war thanks to men breaking right. Try not to shoot yourselves in the face, conservative influencers.
What has he been controlled on. This is why some of yall are just faggot liberals in disguise. The hedonism and retardation that puts bread and circuses over tradition and useful skills
Totally different things. Yes, that time could have been spent in other ways, sure. But that's always true. And, as other commenters have pointed out, Twitch seems to be this guy's job.
He'd actually have a much harder time putting actual guitar to use as a career. Walsh can whine about video games being a waste of time, but I don't see learning guitar being more productive, in the business sense.
And, I think most importantly, it is just different. For all we know, this streamer has zero interest in actual guitar...or can also already play it. Rhythm games and actual instruments are not the same, though. Getting good at Guitar Hero actually has more cross-use skills for someone who makes their living in front of a camera.
It's important for everyone to understand what's reallly going on here. Matt Walsh is a cuckservative, a sick and twisted hybrid of a neocon and a lolbertarian. He's the kind of guy that proudly proclaims "it's nobody's business what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom!" Yet at the same time, for some strange reason it is everybody's business what a single guy does in front of his compter. Isn't that hypocrisy?
Actually. no. What goes here is that Matt is not-so-subtly pointing out that the streamer is wasting his time by playing video games. In other words, he is not contributing to "society" and live-and-let-live icon Matt Walsh has a serious problem with that. According to Matt it is a men's duty to get married and provide for his wife and kids, who most likely aren't even his.
The mainstream left and the mainstream right are in an odd agreement - women are to be put on a pedestal and men are to serve them. They only disagree about about marriage. Cuckservatives say it is paramount for men to get married because it increases the chance that the "father" will stay around which is another way of saying marriage is for the exclusive benefit of women. Libards counter by saying marriage is not needed as long as men agree to pay child support for kids that they had allegedly fathered.
What we have here is a classic case of controlled opposition. Matt Walsh is playing the good cop to the bad cop played by the left. What he says sounds "reasonable" until you realise it results in men become wage cucks and kids being raised by the state. Children do not belong to the parents, they belong to The Government and you should accept it, because 50% of time the state is on your side and that's good enough. The other 50% of time your children will end up being abused but you will okay with it. That is the price you pay for "society".
As many have said, he's a streamer, so he didn't just 'spend 9 months and 50,000 attempts to full combo Through the Fire and Flames at 200% speed on Guitar Hero' - he spent that time milking content for his stream. Because his profession is ultimately the same as Matt Walsh's: being visible online for dumb reasons, for other people's entertainment.
This passes for entertainment and is a unique accomplishment (apparently). Learning to shred faggy power metal is not (inherently) either one. Having seen DF live I question whether Herman Li gets through many of his gigs with a 100% perfection rating, certainly not at 200% speed.
Speaking of which, when I saw DF it was before the name change & they were called Dragonheart. They were a supporting act and fewer people were there to see them than were probably watching this guy's Twitch stream. Their fame is built on thousands of touring hours, band headaches and lots of luck since then. Merely 'learning to play' doesn't guarantee you shit.
While I can agree with the principle that a lot of people waste too much time on hobbies like video games, this guy is a twitch streamer and I presume this is either a job or a major side hustle. I wouldn’t be too concerned about it.
Yeah I've always thought putting a tonne of time into those guitar games was dumb af
Lower floor, so by all means, good to play casually. No need to learn an actual instrument, just have some fun.
But if the time you spent on them could have you playing an actual guitar pretty well, then yeah, what a waste.
Oh sure, you can make the argument for this one person who also streams, then yeah, they may be better off with the guitar hero. But no, its a waste for most people.
It is a frivolous pursuit, yes. The same be said for people seeking world records in eating contests or track and field (athletics for non-murricans) events. There are other bizarre feats found in the Guinness World Records. They are all basically useless stunts.
They also test the limits of humanity. They lay a higher peak. They can inspire an audience to challenge themselves in their own goals.
A number of these people praise God for their achievements. It could be argued that the feats function as testimonies of God can help us do.
Should the nerds get real jobs? Perhaps yes. One moral question is, what is the point of peak productivity? Does it make you a better person? Better than Christian monks?
Having fun in a not Matt Walsh approved way means that it is obviously incorrect, and is worthy of scorn and derision.
But yeah, spending nine months attempting something is bad. I hope it didn't take him nine months to make a mocumentary to answer a question that anyone with a functioning brain already knew: what is a woman.
If he picked up a real guitar for 3 minutes each 50,000 times in 9 momths that would be 2500 hours of practice. He would be an amazing guitarist. Instead he did this.
What are the chances you would have tweeted about it if it was a real guitar? I'm thinking zero. Because you don't actually care. You just want to cry about video games.
I think Matt is completely right here. I love GH and can't play a lick of real guitar- the whole point of the game is you can live out your rock star fantasies without spending the thousands of dollars on equipment and hundreds/thousands of hours practicing. Spending this much time to perfect score 1 video game level at 2x speed just seems completely stupid to me.
In that time/effort he could have become a pretty decent actual guitar player.
Is it better to instead spend hours to do a RE2 handgun only no hit run? Or watching all of the x-files? I could have spent that time on a gun ranges or falling into the occult. In the end it’s just entertaining ourselves.
He didn't do this to entertain himself, he did to to post and brag about it online. 50k attempts at something arbitrary and failing over and over doesn't sound like fun to anyone sane.
Spending this much time to perfect score 1 video game level at 2x speed just seems completely stupid to me.
Its a famously difficult level that people still talk about nearly two decades later, being played on ultra hard mode just for the hell of it. I wouldn't do it myself, but dismissing it to this level is laughable. For people who care about this thing, its impressive.
Most "professional" gamers are probably double or more that kind of time playing their specific arena. They just don't have a running total to judge it by.
the whole point of the game is you can live out your rock star fantasies
Is Dark Souls' entire point to live out your knight fantasies? Did the Wu Kong game prove that millions of people really want to be monkeys? Has every Metroid player secretly wanted to be a woman?
Maybe people just enjoy playing a game without a deep psychological reason or self-insert.
He's also going to remember this win for his whole life. Any time he's feeling down he'll be able to say "I did something amazing".
What's missing for men these days is that important state of mind of being great at something. It's a built-in imperative that women don't have much of and so don't understand - because they don't need it. Males have to put on the show and have the bright colors.
Any talent you try to develop, you can go on youtube and see somebody so much better and it makes men feel listless. What's the fucking point if I'll never be that good? Well this guy is the best at something - or worse case one of a tiny handful - and at his core he'll be happier than most men today will ever know.
Every man needs that one story, that one achievement that they can fall back on. Even if no one else appreciates it, it'll be there for you. As you said, most men don't get that in their life and you can see how broken so many's self esteem is. Heck most are so fucked up they can't even appreciate it when they have it (like a lot of speedrunners). Most of us live our life without having an achievement nearly as unique and skillful as this guy, and I hope he feels that in his soul.
That's something guys like Walsh never understand. Because to them, the only barometers of success and "being a real man" are money and fame. Which is certainly one source of that greatness, but also a very vapid and easily lost one (while being hard to obtain). And the more guys who chase it, the higher the bar becomes to even reach something notable.
Its the same old "men should be dancing monkeys, women's attraction is god" from Feminism, repackaged as a "you don't want to be cringe/beta, do you?" for Right-leaning men. You can't enjoy something that isn't Woman Approved Good in your life, you must only have hobbies and a lifestyle that appeals to them.
Every man needs that one story, that one achievement that they can fall back on. Even if no one else appreciates it, it'll be there for you. As you said, most men don't get that in their life and you can see how broken so many's self esteem is. Heck most are so fucked up they can't even appreciate it when they have it (like a lot of speedrunners). Most of us live our life without having an achievement nearly as unique and skillful as this guy, and I hope he feels that in his soul.
That's a great point from you and fauxgnaws.
That's something guys like Walsh never understand. Because to them, the only barometers of success and "being a real man" are money and fame.
Wouldn't that just be "money" for Walsh? Since he complains about people with notoriety all the time, like this guy for instance.
Is Dark Souls' entire point to live out your knight fantasies?
Um, yeah? Like the Arkham games let you live out your Batman fantasies.
And he wasn't enjoying playing a game- he picked an absurd, arbitrary object that doesn't even exist in the game and spend 9 months and 50k failed attempted to do 1 little thing. I doubt he enjoyed it much at all, he wanted some weird clout by achieving it and posting it online.
Like the Arkham games let you live out your Batman fantasies.
This is beginning to sound more like a you problem. Not everyone is self-inserting into every game and getting deeply emotionally invested in that specific character. Sometimes its just fun to play.
I don't play DDR to live out my dreams of being a backup dancer for a boy band. I enjoy working up a sweat listening to gay europop trash because its hilarious.
he picked an absurd, arbitrary object that doesn't even exist in the game
He took something that was already impressive on its own in game and then doubled it. Its an entire industry to gain uniqueness among the crowd in streaming and the like.
LobosJr didn't have to do barehand, 1 hp runs of Dark Souls games. But he did and now people know him as that guy. He went from one of thousands of generic Souls challenge runners and now is a named meme everyone knows.
If you want to say streaming/youtubing as a whole is a gay industry that everyone is wasting their time in entirely, that's one thing. But this is literally how that game is played, its picking whatever you can be best at (skill, charm, funny, rage, fail, etc) and using it to make you stand out.
This is literally the "You're a Beta Male, Sonic" meme. The fullform skit literally begins with Shadow bringing up gaming prowess being a substitute for sexual-relationship-building.
I'll answer his question with another question.
What does playing an actual guitar actually benefit your daily life and productivity? Since we know this is the metric by which he judges all activities of worth or not, what does playing guitar actually do? Get you laid a little easier? If that considering how hokey and cringe most guitar guys are, on top of their prevalence making it not very unique.
So you gain a pretty useless skill that is nice to have for your own sake, but has no major unique value unless you are the 1% going into a major band. Otherwise you are just that guy with a guitar people are hoping doesn't start playing it.
Comparatively, this is a major accomplishment that people by the shitload know is special. Its top tier nerd stuff, but its still a very top end accomplishment and he likely earned and will earn a lot of money off the attempts and accomplishment. Its might not be a large amount, but not many people can monetize their hobbies to begin with.
Like all Walsh type guys, its just "things my grandpa did are BASED AND ALWAYS GOOD, while things kids are doing are STUPID AND WASTES OF TIME." And he hides this behind metrics that require you to not turn the question back on his assumption, because obviously they are good things because his daddy said so.
Note, this isn't hating on guys playing guitar. Have your hobby and enjoy it.
The difference being a real instrument has cultural value built up over centuries, and playing an instrument continues a human tradition that has existed since pre-history.
Guitar hero is fun, but it was always a cheap imitation of being a real musician. Like trannyism, it tricks your brain into thinking you are something you are not to satisfy a fantasy. On its own, there's nothing wrong with this as long as you know it's escapism.
The point where it becomes sad is when you can't escape the fantasy, deciding that dedicating your life to this cheap imitation is worth more than the real thing.
This is exactly it right here.
Learn to play a guitar, and by proxy, you can learn to play just about any conventionally-designed guitar, as well as opening the door to a wider variety of stringed instruments. It's like learning to paint or driving stick. Skills you don't need to live, but can make your life easier and can give you more vocational options in the future should you decide to pursue it as a career.
So good because your grandpa did it, exactly.
My point isn't that guitar isn't a great thing to do. Its to breakdown what makes it so special that it escapes the scrutiny of guy's like Walsh who have very harsh opinions on anyone's time spent that isn't "dance for women, make money, be a stereotype."
And the only difference is that its older, so it holds more "conservative value" than that new thing kids do that Walsh doesn't understand.
To use a different set of examples. Building and painting little plastic Gundam or 40k models would probably be considered stupid, but building and painting little plastic car models would be fine. And building watches (a lot of the same skills) would be a culturally valuable hobby from centuries ago.
Point is there is no objective metric at play, only subjective values. And even those are unevenly applied by guys like him. But he parades it as undeniable facts of the universe that everyone must agree with. Playing guitar is a more valuable hobby to have, but people only treat it so because they think its cool despite how much of a waste of time it is for 90% of the people doing it, while attacking wastes of time like the guy with the plastic garbage.
Or it was just a video game people played for fun, without the need to self insert themselves.
99% of people don't obsess over GH nor think it makes you a real guitar player. Most of us just think "heh, I get to play Cult of Personality as Slash. Cool!"
Just like playing Arkham City doesn't make us think we're really Batman, we just like to pretend to be Batman for a little while.
The same difference I point out for the kind of people that play sports games. If you can do it irl with friends and it can carry over outside of video games then there's no excuse to do it in a video game. There's a line that needs to not be crossed
Some people work until its dark outside, or have jobs that leave them physically exhausted to not be able to perform without damaging themselves in outside activities, or just have a fucked schedule in general.
Should they just do nothing everyday of the week until they have the opportunity to on a day off or the like? Or can they turn on a dumb little de-stresser at 10pm and have a good time without it being the end of the world?
The era of "9-5 as a general rule" jobs is long since gone, and with it that semblance of "everyone can do this in their daily life."
That's a fair point. I've had this same view since Jr high but I still think it's a slippery slope into living life disconnected. It's the same reason I've always hated social media. I'm certainly not as hard-core about it anymore because I do understand the issues that can crop up
No doubt issues can crop up. Like all things, it needs moderation and balance.
If you spend all the work week killing time inside, you should absolutely try to go out on the weekend and socialize.
But at the same time if you are having fun, being happy, and not heavily regressing in your life's path I think most people should be allowed to do their thing.
He's having fun the way he wants to, I don't really get what the big deal is. If he's also earning money for it (which he seems to be), there's even less wrong with it.
The guy is probably autistic in some way too, as most extreme challenge/speed runners for games tend to be. I'd say he's probably better off doing this than wiping off scanners at Walmart for the rest of his life (until automated robots take those jobs away too).
If a political talking head who pushed for fucking Romney in 2016 is ever your measuring stick, you should probably take stock of your positions in life. You might not be able to understand why people consider this kind of thing as having value, but automatically looking down on what you don't understand could end up with you looking the fool in the future.
See: most western entertainment industries.
He's not serving a holed creature which is all tradcuck faggots like Walsh care about.
Not pumping out future gdp raisers
If Walsh was really concerned with that he would be crusading against no fault divorce. But instead the guy works for Ben Shapiro. I mean, come on lol.
So because he works for Ben Shapiro you should just ignore his actual expressed video points. Nevermind that he's critical of Israel despite working for Ben Israel First Shapiro
I don't ignore his points
If you fail 50,000 times at something (obviously consecutively otherwise he'd stop) and you keep coming back, and that thing is over a decade past its window of public interest, deep autism is probably not the only motivating mental condition in play. You're also into OCD territory and God knows what else. Even being in the room while someone plays that song 50k times would drive you insane.
Walsh is a faggot who hates fun.
Cause this is more view worthy for a streamer. Next
Sure, then he could be one of thousands of guitarists you might watch one video of on Youtube, if he's lucky. It hardly makes a difference. Maybe Walsh is such a lame bitch that he thinks being reasonably good at guitar is cool enough to immediately propel you to rockstar status, but that's not actually how it works in reality. The career path of the vast majority of guitarists starts at gigs and ends in a cubicle.
You gotta wonder what's going on in Walsh's life that he needs to comment on the productivity of highly autistic nerds playing video games. Dude must have been cucked by somebody with a NES collection or something, I swear to god.
What about you, Matt? Why do you spend your life on twitter and complain about what other could have done with their free time, when you could learn guitar yourself?
This. If Walsh were a rocket scientist or brain surgeon or someone otherwise engaged in productive activity his criticism would carry much more weight. As it is he's a glorified twitch streamer himself complaining about some other twitch streamer.
>9 months
>50,000 attempts
How much did he make in revenue off < 4.5 hours/day?
If he wasn't getting making decent incoming off it, the attempts/time seems excessive. But trying to do something obscure no one else has done is fine as a hobby. Just don't tunnel-vision.
Thing is though... he dropped that holds around :51, :55, :58, and 1:18 didn't he? Or do dropped holds not break combo in GH?
Probably greater than the likely 0$ (or less once you factor in equipment costs) he would have from learning actual guitar.
You could argue the opportunity costs from a real job means its a bad endeavor by how much more he could have had, but actual guitar is almost certainly a big zero on revenue.
Real instrument skill, including guitar, can make you decent side money in praise bands. Those jobs aren't pipe dreams either.
Every guy I've known with it never managed to do a single job. Every local band is founded by a guy with a guitar already. Maybe that's just my town.
Either way that's sporadic, gig money that you'd need to do a lot of to offset the difference between what he made streaming.
By praise bands I mean Christian institutions like churches and schools that need a regular accompanist on their team. I don't know how much this guy is making on Twitch, but if he's clearing more than a few thousand a year, then yeah.
Ah, fair point.
Though in my experience, its the same problem. The guitar spot is already filled by the literal pastor or a major member of the church and they need drums or keyboard constantly.
That is also true (better opportunities for guitarists the more megachurchy the church), but nothing stopping anyone from learning either of those other instruments lol.
Of course, but nobody is going around telling people "LEARN TO PLAY REAL DRUMS" if they played Donkey Konga or Rock Band, only the guitar specifically.
Because there is clearly something special about it to them that they aren't willing to admit. And its either because they know its useful for fucking women (not very trad or conservative) or because their dad/uncle/grandpa did it and that was cool to them.
I believe they got stricter about holds in later installments. It's been a long time, but I vaguely recall holds being basically optional in 3, but there being a minimum hold time in one of the non-numbered sequels.
Gamers skew male, and men skew conservative. Any “conservative” who is attacking gamers right now is essentially a saboteur. We’ve just started fighting this culture war thanks to men breaking right. Try not to shoot yourselves in the face, conservative influencers.
Not "essentially a saboteur". He is a saboteur. Walsh's controlled opposition shtick has been obvious for a long time.
What has he been controlled on. This is why some of yall are just faggot liberals in disguise. The hedonism and retardation that puts bread and circuses over tradition and useful skills
You're implying that "conservatives" are on our side of the culture war.
South Park did an episode on this back in the guitar hero heyday.
The dad, Randy?, showed the boys he could play the guitar for real and offered to teach them. They said he was lame.
I'll give him (Walsh) half points at most.
Totally different things. Yes, that time could have been spent in other ways, sure. But that's always true. And, as other commenters have pointed out, Twitch seems to be this guy's job.
He'd actually have a much harder time putting actual guitar to use as a career. Walsh can whine about video games being a waste of time, but I don't see learning guitar being more productive, in the business sense.
And, I think most importantly, it is just different. For all we know, this streamer has zero interest in actual guitar...or can also already play it. Rhythm games and actual instruments are not the same, though. Getting good at Guitar Hero actually has more cross-use skills for someone who makes their living in front of a camera.
It's important for everyone to understand what's reallly going on here. Matt Walsh is a cuckservative, a sick and twisted hybrid of a neocon and a lolbertarian. He's the kind of guy that proudly proclaims "it's nobody's business what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom!" Yet at the same time, for some strange reason it is everybody's business what a single guy does in front of his compter. Isn't that hypocrisy?
Actually. no. What goes here is that Matt is not-so-subtly pointing out that the streamer is wasting his time by playing video games. In other words, he is not contributing to "society" and live-and-let-live icon Matt Walsh has a serious problem with that. According to Matt it is a men's duty to get married and provide for his wife and kids, who most likely aren't even his.
The mainstream left and the mainstream right are in an odd agreement - women are to be put on a pedestal and men are to serve them. They only disagree about about marriage. Cuckservatives say it is paramount for men to get married because it increases the chance that the "father" will stay around which is another way of saying marriage is for the exclusive benefit of women. Libards counter by saying marriage is not needed as long as men agree to pay child support for kids that they had allegedly fathered.
What we have here is a classic case of controlled opposition. Matt Walsh is playing the good cop to the bad cop played by the left. What he says sounds "reasonable" until you realise it results in men become wage cucks and kids being raised by the state. Children do not belong to the parents, they belong to The Government and you should accept it, because 50% of time the state is on your side and that's good enough. The other 50% of time your children will end up being abused but you will okay with it. That is the price you pay for "society".
As many have said, he's a streamer, so he didn't just 'spend 9 months and 50,000 attempts to full combo Through the Fire and Flames at 200% speed on Guitar Hero' - he spent that time milking content for his stream. Because his profession is ultimately the same as Matt Walsh's: being visible online for dumb reasons, for other people's entertainment.
This passes for entertainment and is a unique accomplishment (apparently). Learning to shred faggy power metal is not (inherently) either one. Having seen DF live I question whether Herman Li gets through many of his gigs with a 100% perfection rating, certainly not at 200% speed.
Speaking of which, when I saw DF it was before the name change & they were called Dragonheart. They were a supporting act and fewer people were there to see them than were probably watching this guy's Twitch stream. Their fame is built on thousands of touring hours, band headaches and lots of luck since then. Merely 'learning to play' doesn't guarantee you shit.
While I can agree with the principle that a lot of people waste too much time on hobbies like video games, this guy is a twitch streamer and I presume this is either a job or a major side hustle. I wouldn’t be too concerned about it.
.......anyway here's Wonderwall
Yeah I've always thought putting a tonne of time into those guitar games was dumb af
Lower floor, so by all means, good to play casually. No need to learn an actual instrument, just have some fun.
But if the time you spent on them could have you playing an actual guitar pretty well, then yeah, what a waste.
Oh sure, you can make the argument for this one person who also streams, then yeah, they may be better off with the guitar hero. But no, its a waste for most people.
Not going to dump on this dude. But Matt does have a general point.
It is a frivolous pursuit, yes. The same be said for people seeking world records in eating contests or track and field (athletics for non-murricans) events. There are other bizarre feats found in the Guinness World Records. They are all basically useless stunts.
They also test the limits of humanity. They lay a higher peak. They can inspire an audience to challenge themselves in their own goals.
A number of these people praise God for their achievements. It could be argued that the feats function as testimonies of God can help us do.
Should the nerds get real jobs? Perhaps yes. One moral question is, what is the point of peak productivity? Does it make you a better person? Better than Christian monks?
Having fun in a not Matt Walsh approved way means that it is obviously incorrect, and is worthy of scorn and derision.
But yeah, spending nine months attempting something is bad. I hope it didn't take him nine months to make a mocumentary to answer a question that anyone with a functioning brain already knew: what is a woman.
Tradcuck faggor complains man isn't finding ways to make himself more useful to women
Or a banjo?
If he picked up a real guitar for 3 minutes each 50,000 times in 9 momths that would be 2500 hours of practice. He would be an amazing guitarist. Instead he did this.
https://x.com/GPrime85/status/1898789718277357705
https://x.com/DDayCobra/status/1898768663567577176
https://x.com/TheQuartering/status/1898815960229781865
I think Matt is completely right here. I love GH and can't play a lick of real guitar- the whole point of the game is you can live out your rock star fantasies without spending the thousands of dollars on equipment and hundreds/thousands of hours practicing. Spending this much time to perfect score 1 video game level at 2x speed just seems completely stupid to me.
In that time/effort he could have become a pretty decent actual guitar player.
Is it better to instead spend hours to do a RE2 handgun only no hit run? Or watching all of the x-files? I could have spent that time on a gun ranges or falling into the occult. In the end it’s just entertaining ourselves.
He didn't do this to entertain himself, he did to to post and brag about it online. 50k attempts at something arbitrary and failing over and over doesn't sound like fun to anyone sane.
Its a famously difficult level that people still talk about nearly two decades later, being played on ultra hard mode just for the hell of it. I wouldn't do it myself, but dismissing it to this level is laughable. For people who care about this thing, its impressive.
Most "professional" gamers are probably double or more that kind of time playing their specific arena. They just don't have a running total to judge it by.
Is Dark Souls' entire point to live out your knight fantasies? Did the Wu Kong game prove that millions of people really want to be monkeys? Has every Metroid player secretly wanted to be a woman?
Maybe people just enjoy playing a game without a deep psychological reason or self-insert.
He's also going to remember this win for his whole life. Any time he's feeling down he'll be able to say "I did something amazing".
What's missing for men these days is that important state of mind of being great at something. It's a built-in imperative that women don't have much of and so don't understand - because they don't need it. Males have to put on the show and have the bright colors.
Any talent you try to develop, you can go on youtube and see somebody so much better and it makes men feel listless. What's the fucking point if I'll never be that good? Well this guy is the best at something - or worse case one of a tiny handful - and at his core he'll be happier than most men today will ever know.
Every man needs that one story, that one achievement that they can fall back on. Even if no one else appreciates it, it'll be there for you. As you said, most men don't get that in their life and you can see how broken so many's self esteem is. Heck most are so fucked up they can't even appreciate it when they have it (like a lot of speedrunners). Most of us live our life without having an achievement nearly as unique and skillful as this guy, and I hope he feels that in his soul.
That's something guys like Walsh never understand. Because to them, the only barometers of success and "being a real man" are money and fame. Which is certainly one source of that greatness, but also a very vapid and easily lost one (while being hard to obtain). And the more guys who chase it, the higher the bar becomes to even reach something notable.
Its the same old "men should be dancing monkeys, women's attraction is god" from Feminism, repackaged as a "you don't want to be cringe/beta, do you?" for Right-leaning men. You can't enjoy something that isn't Woman Approved Good in your life, you must only have hobbies and a lifestyle that appeals to them.
That's a great point from you and fauxgnaws.
Wouldn't that just be "money" for Walsh? Since he complains about people with notoriety all the time, like this guy for instance.
If I run around cutting down enemies irl with a sword I'd be in big trouble is the difference
Um, yeah? Like the Arkham games let you live out your Batman fantasies.
And he wasn't enjoying playing a game- he picked an absurd, arbitrary object that doesn't even exist in the game and spend 9 months and 50k failed attempted to do 1 little thing. I doubt he enjoyed it much at all, he wanted some weird clout by achieving it and posting it online.
This is beginning to sound more like a you problem. Not everyone is self-inserting into every game and getting deeply emotionally invested in that specific character. Sometimes its just fun to play.
I don't play DDR to live out my dreams of being a backup dancer for a boy band. I enjoy working up a sweat listening to gay europop trash because its hilarious.
He took something that was already impressive on its own in game and then doubled it. Its an entire industry to gain uniqueness among the crowd in streaming and the like.
LobosJr didn't have to do barehand, 1 hp runs of Dark Souls games. But he did and now people know him as that guy. He went from one of thousands of generic Souls challenge runners and now is a named meme everyone knows.
If you want to say streaming/youtubing as a whole is a gay industry that everyone is wasting their time in entirely, that's one thing. But this is literally how that game is played, its picking whatever you can be best at (skill, charm, funny, rage, fail, etc) and using it to make you stand out.
Wait until Matt Walsh discovers Rocksmith which is just guitar hero with a feal guitar input. It's just a different controller.
If you want to:
A) Play guitar music
and
B) Have no interest in forming or joining a band or making public appearances
then
C) Playing your guitar at home is not really any different from playing Guitar Hero at home.
Now I will say this...
Learning to play a real guitar may end up more fulfilling. You may learn music theory. It may open up avenues of interest you didn't know you had.
But that's all "may" and it's not necessary. Additionally playing a real guitar costs way more money than guitar hero.
Also most of these people make good money off of it.
This is literally the "You're a Beta Male, Sonic" meme. The fullform skit literally begins with Shadow bringing up gaming prowess being a substitute for sexual-relationship-building.