What does playing an actual guitar actually benefit your daily life and productivity? Since we know this is the metric by which he judges all activities of worth or not, what does playing guitar actually do? Get you laid a little easier? If that considering how hokey and cringe most guitar guys are, on top of their prevalence making it not very unique.
So you gain a pretty useless skill that is nice to have for your own sake, but has no major unique value unless you are the 1% going into a major band. Otherwise you are just that guy with a guitar people are hoping doesn't start playing it.
Comparatively, this is a major accomplishment that people by the shitload know is special. Its top tier nerd stuff, but its still a very top end accomplishment and he likely earned and will earn a lot of money off the attempts and accomplishment. Its might not be a large amount, but not many people can monetize their hobbies to begin with.
Like all Walsh type guys, its just "things my grandpa did are BASED AND ALWAYS GOOD, while things kids are doing are STUPID AND WASTES OF TIME." And he hides this behind metrics that require you to not turn the question back on his assumption, because obviously they are good things because his daddy said so.
Note, this isn't hating on guys playing guitar. Have your hobby and enjoy it.
The difference being a real instrument has cultural value built up over centuries, and playing an instrument continues a human tradition that has existed since pre-history.
Guitar hero is fun, but it was always a cheap imitation of being a real musician. Like trannyism, it tricks your brain into thinking you are something you are not to satisfy a fantasy. On its own, there's nothing wrong with this as long as you know it's escapism.
The point where it becomes sad is when you can't escape the fantasy, deciding that dedicating your life to this cheap imitation is worth more than the real thing.
Learn to play a guitar, and by proxy, you can learn to play just about any conventionally-designed guitar, as well as opening the door to a wider variety of stringed instruments. It's like learning to paint or driving stick. Skills you don't need to live, but can make your life easier and can give you more vocational options in the future should you decide to pursue it as a career.
The difference being a real instrument has cultural value built up over centuries
So good because your grandpa did it, exactly.
My point isn't that guitar isn't a great thing to do. Its to breakdown what makes it so special that it escapes the scrutiny of guy's like Walsh who have very harsh opinions on anyone's time spent that isn't "dance for women, make money, be a stereotype."
And the only difference is that its older, so it holds more "conservative value" than that new thing kids do that Walsh doesn't understand.
To use a different set of examples. Building and painting little plastic Gundam or 40k models would probably be considered stupid, but building and painting little plastic car models would be fine. And building watches (a lot of the same skills) would be a culturally valuable hobby from centuries ago.
Point is there is no objective metric at play, only subjective values. And even those are unevenly applied by guys like him. But he parades it as undeniable facts of the universe that everyone must agree with. Playing guitar is a more valuable hobby to have, but people only treat it so because they think its cool despite how much of a waste of time it is for 90% of the people doing it, while attacking wastes of time like the guy with the plastic garbage.
Guitar hero is fun, but it was always a cheap imitation of being a real musician
Or it was just a video game people played for fun, without the need to self insert themselves.
Like trannyism, it tricks your brain into thinking you are something you are not to satisfy a fantasy.
99% of people don't obsess over GH nor think it makes you a real guitar player. Most of us just think "heh, I get to play Cult of Personality as Slash. Cool!"
Just like playing Arkham City doesn't make us think we're really Batman, we just like to pretend to be Batman for a little while.
The same difference I point out for the kind of people that play sports games. If you can do it irl with friends and it can carry over outside of video games then there's no excuse to do it in a video game. There's a line that needs to not be crossed
If you can do it irl with friends and it can carry over outside of video games then there's no excuse to do it in a video game
Some people work until its dark outside, or have jobs that leave them physically exhausted to not be able to perform without damaging themselves in outside activities, or just have a fucked schedule in general.
Should they just do nothing everyday of the week until they have the opportunity to on a day off or the like? Or can they turn on a dumb little de-stresser at 10pm and have a good time without it being the end of the world?
The era of "9-5 as a general rule" jobs is long since gone, and with it that semblance of "everyone can do this in their daily life."
That's a fair point. I've had this same view since Jr high but I still think it's a slippery slope into living life disconnected. It's the same reason I've always hated social media. I'm certainly not as hard-core about it anymore because I do understand the issues that can crop up
No doubt issues can crop up. Like all things, it needs moderation and balance.
If you spend all the work week killing time inside, you should absolutely try to go out on the weekend and socialize.
But at the same time if you are having fun, being happy, and not heavily regressing in your life's path I think most people should be allowed to do their thing.
I'll answer his question with another question.
What does playing an actual guitar actually benefit your daily life and productivity? Since we know this is the metric by which he judges all activities of worth or not, what does playing guitar actually do? Get you laid a little easier? If that considering how hokey and cringe most guitar guys are, on top of their prevalence making it not very unique.
So you gain a pretty useless skill that is nice to have for your own sake, but has no major unique value unless you are the 1% going into a major band. Otherwise you are just that guy with a guitar people are hoping doesn't start playing it.
Comparatively, this is a major accomplishment that people by the shitload know is special. Its top tier nerd stuff, but its still a very top end accomplishment and he likely earned and will earn a lot of money off the attempts and accomplishment. Its might not be a large amount, but not many people can monetize their hobbies to begin with.
Like all Walsh type guys, its just "things my grandpa did are BASED AND ALWAYS GOOD, while things kids are doing are STUPID AND WASTES OF TIME." And he hides this behind metrics that require you to not turn the question back on his assumption, because obviously they are good things because his daddy said so.
Note, this isn't hating on guys playing guitar. Have your hobby and enjoy it.
The difference being a real instrument has cultural value built up over centuries, and playing an instrument continues a human tradition that has existed since pre-history.
Guitar hero is fun, but it was always a cheap imitation of being a real musician. Like trannyism, it tricks your brain into thinking you are something you are not to satisfy a fantasy. On its own, there's nothing wrong with this as long as you know it's escapism.
The point where it becomes sad is when you can't escape the fantasy, deciding that dedicating your life to this cheap imitation is worth more than the real thing.
This is exactly it right here.
Learn to play a guitar, and by proxy, you can learn to play just about any conventionally-designed guitar, as well as opening the door to a wider variety of stringed instruments. It's like learning to paint or driving stick. Skills you don't need to live, but can make your life easier and can give you more vocational options in the future should you decide to pursue it as a career.
So good because your grandpa did it, exactly.
My point isn't that guitar isn't a great thing to do. Its to breakdown what makes it so special that it escapes the scrutiny of guy's like Walsh who have very harsh opinions on anyone's time spent that isn't "dance for women, make money, be a stereotype."
And the only difference is that its older, so it holds more "conservative value" than that new thing kids do that Walsh doesn't understand.
To use a different set of examples. Building and painting little plastic Gundam or 40k models would probably be considered stupid, but building and painting little plastic car models would be fine. And building watches (a lot of the same skills) would be a culturally valuable hobby from centuries ago.
Point is there is no objective metric at play, only subjective values. And even those are unevenly applied by guys like him. But he parades it as undeniable facts of the universe that everyone must agree with. Playing guitar is a more valuable hobby to have, but people only treat it so because they think its cool despite how much of a waste of time it is for 90% of the people doing it, while attacking wastes of time like the guy with the plastic garbage.
Or it was just a video game people played for fun, without the need to self insert themselves.
99% of people don't obsess over GH nor think it makes you a real guitar player. Most of us just think "heh, I get to play Cult of Personality as Slash. Cool!"
Just like playing Arkham City doesn't make us think we're really Batman, we just like to pretend to be Batman for a little while.
The same difference I point out for the kind of people that play sports games. If you can do it irl with friends and it can carry over outside of video games then there's no excuse to do it in a video game. There's a line that needs to not be crossed
Some people work until its dark outside, or have jobs that leave them physically exhausted to not be able to perform without damaging themselves in outside activities, or just have a fucked schedule in general.
Should they just do nothing everyday of the week until they have the opportunity to on a day off or the like? Or can they turn on a dumb little de-stresser at 10pm and have a good time without it being the end of the world?
The era of "9-5 as a general rule" jobs is long since gone, and with it that semblance of "everyone can do this in their daily life."
That's a fair point. I've had this same view since Jr high but I still think it's a slippery slope into living life disconnected. It's the same reason I've always hated social media. I'm certainly not as hard-core about it anymore because I do understand the issues that can crop up
No doubt issues can crop up. Like all things, it needs moderation and balance.
If you spend all the work week killing time inside, you should absolutely try to go out on the weekend and socialize.
But at the same time if you are having fun, being happy, and not heavily regressing in your life's path I think most people should be allowed to do their thing.