They want it to end like Libya, with regime change in Russia and Putin raped to death in the street. That's why this war is happening - because overthrowing the governments of Ukraine and Syria was supposed to be a stepping stone to doing the same in Russia itself.
Precisely, this just goes to show how shallow and short sighted their thinking is.
If Russia even came close to that, Russia is throwing nukes and both Russians and Americans will partially survive since they live in vast countries with lots of resources while everyone else is VERY fucked.
But that's not possible anyway as Putin had the foresight to eliminate any potential rebels long ago so this just a waste of lives.
They also tried it in Belarus and Kazakhstan just becore the invasion, and in Georgia (again, they already did it in 2008 once) after it started, and maybe in Slovakia as well, but that was right as USAID started to get gutted so it fizzled out.
And, hell, they came pretty close in Russia itself in the 90s when they poured a billion into getting a completely unpopular Yeltsin elected as a puppet and Weimarized the place for a decade. The Russians still remember.
I still don't agree with war, but put in this context, it becomes even more understandable. To use the leftist Putin meme, Putin himself was in danger of falling out of a window if he didn't do something, and the person who took his place would have been a Western stooge who would destroy Russia.
Pushing Russia away from the West by becoming a "global pariah" (at least in Western context) was actually a good thing for Russia.
I mean make it simpler. You're the ruler of a nation, right now. You personally as you are.
And your neighbor is a formerly neutral country now staring the process of being absorbed intonthe globohomo. The last a long line of nations youve watched be pressured into the same thing.
The noose is visible on a map and is tightening. What's your course of action if you love your people and your nation?
Who is Russia 'going to attack' after peace? There isn't anyone unless you want to say Poland which would be a bloodbath....for Russia as unlike the rest of NATO they MAINTAIN their military and the only thing they don't have is nukes and F22s...
This is just political BS hoping to keep normies focused on Russia being 'the great enemy' to distract from domestic issues as if there's peace and a cessation of hostilities, the normies might look around and see how shit things are thanks to their 'elected leaders'..
The Russian paradox. They're losing in Ukraine and are just days away from complete collapse but if we stop funding Ukraine they'll steamroll the rest of Europe within a week.
The only scenario they will accept is backing a wounded Russia into a corner and hoping they don’t press the nuclear button. I don’t think Putin would do it before that. If you actually watch Putin he’s not remotely unhinged. They just don’t like him because he (gasp) puts the interests of Russia first.
You want to know what is the fun part? Denmark has given initial reads that they are planning on voting down the "Rearm Europe" bill in the EU, along with several other nations.
These people really are the most arrogant hypocrites to ever exist.
They think this war will end like WW2 with Putin on trial for war crimes lol
Bitch, he won.
They want it to end like Libya, with regime change in Russia and Putin raped to death in the street. That's why this war is happening - because overthrowing the governments of Ukraine and Syria was supposed to be a stepping stone to doing the same in Russia itself.
Dumb EU bitches don't understand how mutually assured destruction works. There's a reason we only ever did proxy wars during the Cold War.
Precisely, this just goes to show how shallow and short sighted their thinking is.
If Russia even came close to that, Russia is throwing nukes and both Russians and Americans will partially survive since they live in vast countries with lots of resources while everyone else is VERY fucked.
But that's not possible anyway as Putin had the foresight to eliminate any potential rebels long ago so this just a waste of lives.
They also tried it in Belarus and Kazakhstan just becore the invasion, and in Georgia (again, they already did it in 2008 once) after it started, and maybe in Slovakia as well, but that was right as USAID started to get gutted so it fizzled out.
And, hell, they came pretty close in Russia itself in the 90s when they poured a billion into getting a completely unpopular Yeltsin elected as a puppet and Weimarized the place for a decade. The Russians still remember.
I still don't agree with war, but put in this context, it becomes even more understandable. To use the leftist Putin meme, Putin himself was in danger of falling out of a window if he didn't do something, and the person who took his place would have been a Western stooge who would destroy Russia.
Pushing Russia away from the West by becoming a "global pariah" (at least in Western context) was actually a good thing for Russia.
I mean make it simpler. You're the ruler of a nation, right now. You personally as you are.
And your neighbor is a formerly neutral country now staring the process of being absorbed intonthe globohomo. The last a long line of nations youve watched be pressured into the same thing.
The noose is visible on a map and is tightening. What's your course of action if you love your people and your nation?
Why does russia get invaded by immigrants anyway then?
Russia committed democide against its own male demographic and made itself the bitch of China in the process.
"They have to fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here."
These fucking evil retards managed to take one of the worst neocon talking points and make it more twisted and evil.
Amazing, actually.
she's a female leader. She will happily go to war
Who is Russia 'going to attack' after peace? There isn't anyone unless you want to say Poland which would be a bloodbath....for Russia as unlike the rest of NATO they MAINTAIN their military and the only thing they don't have is nukes and F22s...
This is just political BS hoping to keep normies focused on Russia being 'the great enemy' to distract from domestic issues as if there's peace and a cessation of hostilities, the normies might look around and see how shit things are thanks to their 'elected leaders'..
The Russian paradox. They're losing in Ukraine and are just days away from complete collapse but if we stop funding Ukraine they'll steamroll the rest of Europe within a week.
Attack what's left of Ukraine?
Can we send these war mongers to fight in a trench please?
Can we just put them in a trench ourselves and skip the hassle of sending them anywhere?
The only scenario they will accept is backing a wounded Russia into a corner and hoping they don’t press the nuclear button. I don’t think Putin would do it before that. If you actually watch Putin he’s not remotely unhinged. They just don’t like him because he (gasp) puts the interests of Russia first.
"Peace will be more deadly than war!"
Is probably the most Orwellian statement that anyone has ever uttered.
George probably wrote that shit down in 1984 and said, "Nah, no one would believe that. It's too obvious. Tyranny is more subtle."
Unless? 🤔
In the Grim Present, there is only war.
Well, the God Emperor does have Marines...
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
Easy for her to say in her fucking slag palace
You want to know what is the fun part? Denmark has given initial reads that they are planning on voting down the "Rearm Europe" bill in the EU, along with several other nations.
These people really are the most arrogant hypocrites to ever exist.