"Democracy" is white people allowing their countries to be taken over by third world invaders and globalist bankers. It's a real mystery why so many white people don't want to save it.
What Douglas Murray calls the "existential tiredness" is a real phenomenon amongst Europeans and their descendents. We've had it too good for too long, and that prosperity creates indolence on the one hand and on the other a sort of all-encompassing guilt, a feeling like we don't really deserve all of this prosperity. And that has been capitalized on and amplified by the globalists and by all the rest who've been so envious of our success, so the guilt trip comes from the outside as well as the inside. Never mind that the rest of the world wouldn't have it as good as they do if it were not for European ingenuity and European ideas. When life gets easy enough, you're able to spend less and less time subsisting and innovating and more time navel gazing, and the result is always impotent resentment and self-hatred.
We were top of the planet for centuries and this malaise or whatever you want to call it only came about recently.
And artificially. It was induced, deliberately, by certain people.
It is not a natural state and it did not arise from random circumstances. Honestly, to suggest that it did is to try and draw attention away from the culprits.
I'm sorry you feel that way. Just continue to sit around in dark corners of the internet blaming the Jews for all of your problems. I'm sure it will make you feel better.
I'm just tired of not being able to have even a single conversation on this forum without somebody telling me that I'm wrong if I don't make it about the Jews.
Look I get it. Not everyone is in the same place with the JQ. But there is a great deal of evidence that prominent jews have made it their mission to "diversify" Europe. I'm not telling you, you have to feel that way. But I appreciate you not sperging out Stormfag and hoping for death.
The thing is: I don't entirely disagree. But there is a difference between recognizing the disproportionate number of Jews in influential positions advancing political interests they believe to be favorable to their community, and alleging a two-thousand-year long conspiracy involving every last Jewish person who ever lived, and that's solely behind literally everything that has gone wrong in our societies.
Even then, what annoys me is not the overblown rhetoric in and of itself, but that some users feel the need to derail every single thread on here with it. That is a fed tactic: it's usually done in bad faith and its goal is to undermine the quality of discourse in right wing forums and drive away interest from people who might otherwise be amenable to some of what we have to say, but who are immediately put off by the wall-to-wall Stormposting. And I know not all of you are that extreme or stupid, but it is annoying. It's disruptive, it's counterproductive and it's totally ineffectual.
I'm not interested in pretending I didn't know what he was talking about, and I'm not interested in pretending that I'm the one who initiated the argument.
I'm just tired of not being able to have even a single conversation on this forum without somebody telling me that I'm wrong if I don't make it about the Jews.
I mean the jews in these high positions can feel free to stop trying to destroy the west anytime. I won't stop them. But as long as they do hell yeah conversations will be about that too
The funny thing is that at no point did I say jews.
I just said Western Civilization was not brought down by some inevitable mass psychosis as your author suggests, but deliberately and purposefully. And by the way there's absolutely no genuine reason for any grown adult to ever postulate such a thing save for trying to point away from the actual cause. That's why I said it was a so called malaise, because that's the term Jimmy Carter used when he wanted to blame his shitty economic policies on the people.
And well, you leapt to the defense of the jews.
Now for me I certainly don't think it's just them. They are just one of the many groups that serve the devil, and it is the dark one's servants who have done this, as they've done to do many other civilizations throughout history.
I suppose this is fundamentally where you and I differ. As much as I am occasionally envious of people who have religious faith, I don't. I don't believe in God, and I don't believe in the devil, either. I don't see nefarious, shadowy figures collaborating across generations to bring down society. I just see people. People are often weak, shortsighted and self-defeating. They are often their own worst enemies, and the more successful and prosperous they get, the more that becomes true.
And as I said in my initial comment, our elites and other vested interests have certainly made an effort to take advantage of that, and to encourage and exacerbate the frustration, the ennui, the confusion, the misplaced guilt and the self-loathing that has resulted, but it wouldn't have been so easy for them if there hadn't already been something there to work with. We lost our way first.
As for the jew thing, I'm sorry if I mischaracterized your argument. I've had that debate with you before, and the overt accusation in your reply made me think you were baiting me. I will usually take that bait when I have time, because it's fun, but if I was wrong this time, mea culpa.
White leftist behavior is dysgenic. It is not natural. It is the result of an inculcated self-hatred, and this hatred was largely introduced and disseminated by non-whites.
Discovering a more efficient manufacturing process may have practical value, but reading a philosophy book does not. Often times people who think highly of their own intelligence end up wasting their time trying to organize ideas into abstract systems, but it never amounts to anything. Their time could have been better spent doing something actually productive rather than playing around with thought exercises.
Seriously - white people should face accountability, but not for what CNN thinks.
White people should face accountability for being the only "race" stupid enough to allow the constant bullshit, the radical shitbag left has been putting out, to indoctrinate them into this asinine world view, where they hate themselves for their ancestors being successful (and having flaws, like every other "race"). No other "race" (it's not even the white race, it's just the leftists) is dumb enough to have a negative in-group bias. Literally every other group of people sees themselves as better than everyone else, but the stupid shitbag left.
Fuck the left. Fuck the people who are stupidly allowing themselves to be manipulated into destroying everything their ancestors built, fought, and died for. Especially fuck the leftists who aren't content hating themselves, but try to indoctrinate and propagandize our kids into doing it, too.
The system the US was built as is the best system of government yet fielded by man. Trump actually understands this, and wants to reduce the government's powers and return power to states.
Leftism or leftism but "our guy" are not the only choices. Being a leftist is being an ideological cuck, unwilling to control your own life and begging for a ruler to own you. Pathetic. It would be preferable to die than be one.
I love how nobody ever pushes back when people say ridiculous things like this. I’d ask how they aren’t being accountable by voting their conscience. If Trump wins there will be endless bashing of white people for not voting Harris. Well more bashing than usual
Prepare for more 'white-lash' comments from the usual suspects and endless whinging online about how the US is a racist, backward country (that for some reason everyone in the world wants to come live in.)
Yea I’ve always wanted to ask a leftist how they can on one hand talk about how evil the west is, but they make zero effort to leave and lecture us about allowing more people.
I’ve not been able to get them to admit they just hate white people. I tend to run into “progressive Christians” who seem to find every left wing talking point in the Bible. Love your neighbor is somehow advocating socialism
That would imply they have accountability. If you don't vote for them is your fault, it's not their fault for not having a platform that includes you, it's not their fault they do not resonate with you, it's your fault for not voting as they want.
I'm loving this utter teeth grinding the left is doing, realizing they have to try and appeal to whites, while absolutely hating us and wanting us to die.
No, white, upper-middle class mid-wits watch "authoritative" information that is provided to them by the Leftist Intelligentsia, that way it makes them feel like they are more "knowledgable" and "educated".
Instead of making a class distinction, they've managed to construct "education" distinction, and mixed it with fart-huffington post-narcissism.
They have a copy of The Economist. That means, by definition, they are smarter than you.
Unfortunately, as much as it would be convenient for low IQ racial collectivism to have a basis in reality - the largest population of leftists in the US is still white.
They are no more tolerable than any of their ideological compatriots, neither the "useful idiot" shocktroops or the more malicious deliberately anti-humanity types.
The largest population of everything in the US is still White, because we're still the majority by a significant margin. And never mind that White leftists are heavily outnumbers by White right wingers.
We all wish. This is a big reason I don't take wehraboo fags seriously, because they'd sell a patriotic american out for a leftist thot on the basis of skin color, when ideology is far more important. But then, they're leftists too, not actually right wing by any measure.
I would tell you to look at exit poll statistics, but someone so obviously mired in the uniparty false dichotomy and the lie of egalitarianism would be unable to understand what you're looking at and would just angrily rant about "libs" in your confusion.
You're full of shit. White leftists are no better than any other, and we only have a majority when you're looking at men exclusively. 57% is not heavily outnumbering. 75% would be heavily outnumbering.
That is because you live in a White nation, nigger.
Whites are the only people who vote republican. They vote 57% republican.
Jews vote 68% democrat. Niggers like you vote 92% democrat. Spics vote 72% democrat. Asians vote 73% democrat. Importing more of any of those, like you want to do, will just make the left win more.
You are trying to prevent white straight males from forming a voting block because you really want democrats to rule forever.
Not that it matters. Demographics is destiny, and spics and blacks now outnumber whites in schools. In 10 years they will start voting, and republicans will never win another election. The US is over. It will be the Estados Unidos del Norte de México.
You project like a leftist. Your goal here is to defame and subvert actual right wing action. You are the one who would have whites (and everyone else) enslaved under the boot.
You are a faggot.
you get mad when I make blatantly false claims about your stances
Like anyone would. You act like your own austrian faggot's stereotype of arguing with a jew. "You don't let my blatant lies and slander of your character stand so you're a leftist just like me!" No. You are a goblin, and you cannot claim the history of my ancestors as an excuse for your UTTER failure to be a worthwhile human. You are NOT an american, the founders would have shot you in the street for your bullshit. You would have been a loyalist for the brits and you do not belong on an american board.
Your ancestors were sitting in mud huts rubbing sticks together while mine were signing the Declaration of Independence. Why would I want to claim your history of eating mud and bugs. Nigger.
Keep projecting, fed goblin. It outs you. You have no right to reference the declaration while being diametrically opposed to the founding ideals of the US, trash, and you doing so is a joke that only makes you more obvious.
The left pretends that it's too "civilized" for punishment, so they come up with a bunch of euphemisms. "Accountability" is just the latest one, but "rehabilitation" and "re-education" are classics. Murray Rothbard had a good argument about how "rehabilitation" is actually the most horrific form of criminal justice, because the criminal isn't even recognized as a criminal, so the torment can go on indefinitely "for their own good."
And that's not just a theoretical argument either. Outright torture has historically been part of psychiatry since the beginning, but it's not torture because they don't call it torture.
"Democracy" is white people allowing their countries to be taken over by third world invaders and globalist bankers. It's a real mystery why so many white people don't want to save it.
What Douglas Murray calls the "existential tiredness" is a real phenomenon amongst Europeans and their descendents. We've had it too good for too long, and that prosperity creates indolence on the one hand and on the other a sort of all-encompassing guilt, a feeling like we don't really deserve all of this prosperity. And that has been capitalized on and amplified by the globalists and by all the rest who've been so envious of our success, so the guilt trip comes from the outside as well as the inside. Never mind that the rest of the world wouldn't have it as good as they do if it were not for European ingenuity and European ideas. When life gets easy enough, you're able to spend less and less time subsisting and innovating and more time navel gazing, and the result is always impotent resentment and self-hatred.
We were top of the planet for centuries and this malaise or whatever you want to call it only came about recently.
And artificially. It was induced, deliberately, by certain people.
It is not a natural state and it did not arise from random circumstances. Honestly, to suggest that it did is to try and draw attention away from the culprits.
I'm sorry you feel that way. Just continue to sit around in dark corners of the internet blaming the Jews for all of your problems. I'm sure it will make you feel better.
It has nothing to do with feel, and everything to do with accountability. And those who seek to avoid the consequences of what they've done.
Doctor, heal thyself.
Your sanctimonious bullshit is far more annoying than any Jew-sperging. But I'm sure it makes you feel better.
I'm just tired of not being able to have even a single conversation on this forum without somebody telling me that I'm wrong if I don't make it about the Jews.
Look I get it. Not everyone is in the same place with the JQ. But there is a great deal of evidence that prominent jews have made it their mission to "diversify" Europe. I'm not telling you, you have to feel that way. But I appreciate you not sperging out Stormfag and hoping for death.
The thing is: I don't entirely disagree. But there is a difference between recognizing the disproportionate number of Jews in influential positions advancing political interests they believe to be favorable to their community, and alleging a two-thousand-year long conspiracy involving every last Jewish person who ever lived, and that's solely behind literally everything that has gone wrong in our societies.
Even then, what annoys me is not the overblown rhetoric in and of itself, but that some users feel the need to derail every single thread on here with it. That is a fed tactic: it's usually done in bad faith and its goal is to undermine the quality of discourse in right wing forums and drive away interest from people who might otherwise be amenable to some of what we have to say, but who are immediately put off by the wall-to-wall Stormposting. And I know not all of you are that extreme or stupid, but it is annoying. It's disruptive, it's counterproductive and it's totally ineffectual.
One person made one comment that didn't even mention Jews by name and you turned it into a sanctimonious sperg-out thread.
Doctor, heal thyself.
I'm not interested in pretending I didn't know what he was talking about, and I'm not interested in pretending that I'm the one who initiated the argument.
Then leave. No one is forcing you to come here.
I mean the jews in these high positions can feel free to stop trying to destroy the west anytime. I won't stop them. But as long as they do hell yeah conversations will be about that too
I was here first you forum-sliding fed fuck. Go back to conpro.
The funny thing is that at no point did I say jews.
I just said Western Civilization was not brought down by some inevitable mass psychosis as your author suggests, but deliberately and purposefully. And by the way there's absolutely no genuine reason for any grown adult to ever postulate such a thing save for trying to point away from the actual cause. That's why I said it was a so called malaise, because that's the term Jimmy Carter used when he wanted to blame his shitty economic policies on the people.
And well, you leapt to the defense of the jews.
Now for me I certainly don't think it's just them. They are just one of the many groups that serve the devil, and it is the dark one's servants who have done this, as they've done to do many other civilizations throughout history.
I suppose this is fundamentally where you and I differ. As much as I am occasionally envious of people who have religious faith, I don't. I don't believe in God, and I don't believe in the devil, either. I don't see nefarious, shadowy figures collaborating across generations to bring down society. I just see people. People are often weak, shortsighted and self-defeating. They are often their own worst enemies, and the more successful and prosperous they get, the more that becomes true.
And as I said in my initial comment, our elites and other vested interests have certainly made an effort to take advantage of that, and to encourage and exacerbate the frustration, the ennui, the confusion, the misplaced guilt and the self-loathing that has resulted, but it wouldn't have been so easy for them if there hadn't already been something there to work with. We lost our way first.
As for the jew thing, I'm sorry if I mischaracterized your argument. I've had that debate with you before, and the overt accusation in your reply made me think you were baiting me. I will usually take that bait when I have time, because it's fun, but if I was wrong this time, mea culpa.
If it’s not Jews, then it’s white liberal women who have been programmed by Jews. Get with the times gnome boy.
White leftist behavior is dysgenic. It is not natural. It is the result of an inculcated self-hatred, and this hatred was largely introduced and disseminated by non-whites.
I said in my initial comment that it's being exacerbated by outside forces.
People who have time for philosophy have too much free time on their hands.
Western Civilization was built on philosophy, and our commitment to rational inquiry is what sets us apart.
Discovering a more efficient manufacturing process may have practical value, but reading a philosophy book does not. Often times people who think highly of their own intelligence end up wasting their time trying to organize ideas into abstract systems, but it never amounts to anything. Their time could have been better spent doing something actually productive rather than playing around with thought exercises.
Seriously - white people should face accountability, but not for what CNN thinks. White people should face accountability for being the only "race" stupid enough to allow the constant bullshit, the radical shitbag left has been putting out, to indoctrinate them into this asinine world view, where they hate themselves for their ancestors being successful (and having flaws, like every other "race"). No other "race" (it's not even the white race, it's just the leftists) is dumb enough to have a negative in-group bias. Literally every other group of people sees themselves as better than everyone else, but the stupid shitbag left.
Fuck the left. Fuck the people who are stupidly allowing themselves to be manipulated into destroying everything their ancestors built, fought, and died for. Especially fuck the leftists who aren't content hating themselves, but try to indoctrinate and propagandize our kids into doing it, too.
Can we please get the cool dictator that will shut these people up for good?
Maybe he could be an art school dropout.
Think he could also be a writer? maybe write a book about his struggles?
He could be writing it right now, while serving time for J6.
No. Go back to europe.
The US always follows Europe. Just with a 10 year lag. Trump literally has a Europe style populist platform.
You aren't american, are you, clown?
The system the US was built as is the best system of government yet fielded by man. Trump actually understands this, and wants to reduce the government's powers and return power to states.
Leftism or leftism but "our guy" are not the only choices. Being a leftist is being an ideological cuck, unwilling to control your own life and begging for a ruler to own you. Pathetic. It would be preferable to die than be one.
They're from Quantico.
Maybe Argentina.
I love how nobody ever pushes back when people say ridiculous things like this. I’d ask how they aren’t being accountable by voting their conscience. If Trump wins there will be endless bashing of white people for not voting Harris. Well more bashing than usual
They don't push back because then they'd be defending white supremacy. And you can't be a white supremacist if you want a job in America
Prepare for more 'white-lash' comments from the usual suspects and endless whinging online about how the US is a racist, backward country (that for some reason everyone in the world wants to come live in.)
Yea I’ve always wanted to ask a leftist how they can on one hand talk about how evil the west is, but they make zero effort to leave and lecture us about allowing more people.
I've asked them before. They spout word salad and one in ten of them will admit that the goal is to eradicate whites and Christianity.
I’ve not been able to get them to admit they just hate white people. I tend to run into “progressive Christians” who seem to find every left wing talking point in the Bible. Love your neighbor is somehow advocating socialism
Beware those who call good evil, and evil good.
Exactly
I think the best term for such people is Churchians. They certainly don't seem to like it anyway.
They imagine Jesus as some proto-hippie that said, "just love people, that is all." They don't even like to think of him dying on the cross.
Or they deny that Jesus is the only way
Van Jones: "This was a white-lash"
Also, Van Jones: "Demographic replacement is real and good."
What's it a backlash of?
Why'd I have the bowl Bart?
That would imply they have accountability. If you don't vote for them is your fault, it's not their fault for not having a platform that includes you, it's not their fault they do not resonate with you, it's your fault for not voting as they want.
That would seriously help Trump. He's basically scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel of the white vote, and he's only getting about 70% of it.
Push over more of the 73% of the population to Trump! Please!
I'm loving this utter teeth grinding the left is doing, realizing they have to try and appeal to whites, while absolutely hating us and wanting us to die.
"We'll stop the abuse and treat you like human beings again if you vote this way, promise" fingers firmly crossed behind back
Nah, it's a knife being sharpened behind their back for the inevitable scorpion moment.
CNN should face accountability for being paid, professional shill operation for the Democrat party.
anyone who shows up at my door will be accountable for my foot up their ass
Democracy should be taken behind a shed and beat to death. We were a Republic.
Crazy bitch says crazy things. I'm shocked...
Do 'White folks' not on enough drugs to turn their blood into acid watch CNN?
No, white, upper-middle class mid-wits watch "authoritative" information that is provided to them by the Leftist Intelligentsia, that way it makes them feel like they are more "knowledgable" and "educated".
Instead of making a class distinction, they've managed to construct "education" distinction, and mixed it with fart-huffington post-narcissism.
They have a copy of The Economist. That means, by definition, they are smarter than you.
Unfortunately, as much as it would be convenient for low IQ racial collectivism to have a basis in reality - the largest population of leftists in the US is still white.
They are no more tolerable than any of their ideological compatriots, neither the "useful idiot" shocktroops or the more malicious deliberately anti-humanity types.
The largest population of everything in the US is still White, because we're still the majority by a significant margin. And never mind that White leftists are heavily outnumbers by White right wingers.
We all wish. This is a big reason I don't take wehraboo fags seriously, because they'd sell a patriotic american out for a leftist thot on the basis of skin color, when ideology is far more important. But then, they're leftists too, not actually right wing by any measure.
I would tell you to look at exit poll statistics, but someone so obviously mired in the uniparty false dichotomy and the lie of egalitarianism would be unable to understand what you're looking at and would just angrily rant about "libs" in your confusion.
You're full of shit. White leftists are no better than any other, and we only have a majority when you're looking at men exclusively. 57% is not heavily outnumbering. 75% would be heavily outnumbering.
That is because you live in a White nation, nigger.
Whites are the only people who vote republican. They vote 57% republican.
Jews vote 68% democrat. Niggers like you vote 92% democrat. Spics vote 72% democrat. Asians vote 73% democrat. Importing more of any of those, like you want to do, will just make the left win more.
You are trying to prevent white straight males from forming a voting block because you really want democrats to rule forever.
Not that it matters. Demographics is destiny, and spics and blacks now outnumber whites in schools. In 10 years they will start voting, and republicans will never win another election. The US is over. It will be the Estados Unidos del Norte de México.
Your self awareness is less than a chimp. You call everyone you disagree with a leftist, but throw a bitchfit when you are called a leftist.
You can't see past your own hatred of whites.
You project like a leftist. Your goal here is to defame and subvert actual right wing action. You are the one who would have whites (and everyone else) enslaved under the boot.
You are a faggot.
Like anyone would. You act like your own austrian faggot's stereotype of arguing with a jew. "You don't let my blatant lies and slander of your character stand so you're a leftist just like me!" No. You are a goblin, and you cannot claim the history of my ancestors as an excuse for your UTTER failure to be a worthwhile human. You are NOT an american, the founders would have shot you in the street for your bullshit. You would have been a loyalist for the brits and you do not belong on an american board.
Your ancestors were sitting in mud huts rubbing sticks together while mine were signing the Declaration of Independence. Why would I want to claim your history of eating mud and bugs. Nigger.
Keep projecting, fed goblin. It outs you. You have no right to reference the declaration while being diametrically opposed to the founding ideals of the US, trash, and you doing so is a joke that only makes you more obvious.
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this actually doesn't do this. It's an opinion of what people in the 1700's would have done.
You're allowed to call each other faggots.
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Subhuman is closer to 16 tan 15
'rope deserving' when directed at a person is a violation of the rule.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USLeVvsphwM
Holy crap I never wanted to tell someone to shut up more in my life.
"face accountability"
Nice, subtle call to violence, bro.
The left pretends that it's too "civilized" for punishment, so they come up with a bunch of euphemisms. "Accountability" is just the latest one, but "rehabilitation" and "re-education" are classics. Murray Rothbard had a good argument about how "rehabilitation" is actually the most horrific form of criminal justice, because the criminal isn't even recognized as a criminal, so the torment can go on indefinitely "for their own good."
And that's not just a theoretical argument either. Outright torture has historically been part of psychiatry since the beginning, but it's not torture because they don't call it torture.