Multiculturalism in itself isn't always a problem, thought there are plenty of cultures with inferior or at least dubious habits and morals. Leftists have successfully converted this word and turned it into multiracialism. Europe was already multicultural, the USA were already multicultural and multiracial, etc. Some less meaning individuals disagree with proportions apparently. Ad to this that the heads of both unions, the EU and the USA, want to decide the population's composition artificially, and the race towards whatever lies beyond the finish line is on.
Ideology on the other hand... Islam coexists only with itself. Well not really, the Shia and Sunni still disagree a bit. Violently, from time to time (this is, of course, surprising).
The persistence of ''Europe's multiculturalism'' depended on strict territoriality.
Languages/cultures without strong states of their own were in perpetual danger of dying-out.
Switzerland, sometimes brought-up as a counter-example, has its own problems. Lombard, Arpitan, Jurassian and Romanche native languages are being replaced.
The French / Hochdeutsch/Italian cohabitation works because each language has official status on its ''own'' territory ( actually over former Arpitan and current Alemanic territory ). ''Italian'' territory is actually Lombard territory, and Lombard is being replaced.
I don't know how many people pretended cohabitation ever worked for the Romanche. It never did. It's losing ground, and its speakers have to learn and speak Alemanic and Hochdeutsch.
Otherwise, be it France, Italy, the United Kingdom, Spain, all tried to get rid of their minorities, and don't, and reasonably cannot, accomodate all their indigenous languages to full official status like a self-governing homogenous linguistic group can.
Spain is probably the state I mentionned that most accomodates its native minorities, but still grants no official status to them on the federal level, and its constitution mandates that all its citizens must know Spanish, and have a right to speak it. You're technically not constitutionally allowed to live your whole life speaking, example, Basque or Catalan. You have to speak Spanish when the federal government deals with you. Schools have to teach Spanish ( not only Spanish, but Spanish has to be there, students have to speak it, while minority languages can be absent in schools of their own territory. This has obvious consequences on the vitality / transmission and attraction power of other languages.
Luxemburg touted itself as a ''successful'' meeting ground between Germanic natives and French influence and immigrants. Well Luxemburgish is now dying, with fewer than 30% of kids speaking it now. It was never going to last. It never does.
Partial revivals are always on precarious grounds, and have their roots in... wait for it... strong nationalism and pro-indepdance mouvements ( Ex : Basque and Catalan ). Independance and nationalism aren't always enough though : Ireland kept hemmoraging Irish language and culture for decades after independance and it's still uncertain some form of Irish as a living community language will survive.
Multiculturalism dosen't last, it's a death sentence for smaller languages/cultures within a multicultural state. Multiracialism is a death sentence for White people.
Mass-migration on top of it inevitably results in foreigners agitating for removal of protection policies for minority languages, as they don't want to have to learn multiple languages. They want to learn the dominant language. And thus force the native minority to speak the dominant language more and more untill it dies under pressure.
it's a death sentence for smaller languages/cultures within a multicultural state.
Occasionally that smaller culture can somehow subvert and control the larger, or establish a position of prestige. The smaller isn't always the doomed one.
Multiculturalism doesn't last, it's a death sentence for smaller languages/cultures within a multicultural state. Multiracialism is a death sentence for White people.
Multiculturalism might not last but preventing it might be a tough sell and would require the intervention of the state. Multiracialism will never work as long as the same state is aggressively pushing it. The people have to oppose these issues themselves, even against the state, in order for any of this to at least slow down if not stop. And if the state doesn't fear you, good luck! The state having too much power over its own citizens got everyone in this mess. Maybe.
What I was arguing is that Islam is a far greater threat than the others at the moment. Would you be accepting of it if the push came from those belonging to the same race and culture as you? Is there a way to stop all those issues at the same time at this point or do they have to be dealt with one by one?
If I'm wrong then it's a good thing no head of state listens to me.
Multi-culturalism is always a problem, because multi-culturalism requires segregation and parallel societies.
Other populations have two choices:
They can assimilate into the larger population
They can accept being an "eccentricity", where they are still integrated into the larger society as a whole, but are never a sufficient challenge to it.
It is always a problem and always leads to destruction. Sure, they can keep it going for awhile, but it comes to an explosive end. Civic Nationalism is a lie.
What do they all have in common? Christianity. Christianity itself with it's victim worshiping complex is the problem. Yes, you have Jewish organisations that are the forefront and center organizing mass immigration into Europe but Christians are the ones who willingly let it happen.
Why are Christians so susceptible to Jewish influence when Christianity supposedly teaches that Jews are the Synagogue of Satan? Christianity had plenty of time to rid itself of it but never did. It wasn't Christian enough or what?
What do they all have in common? Christianity. materialism
Pretending Europe is Christian is a laugh. The elites have been atheist for double or triple your lifetime, if not more. (Merkel a churchgoer? Lol.) The rubes aren't far behind. The average Euro "Christian" is more like an atheist in the sense that the average Japanese person is simultaneously atheist and Zen Buddhist.
Consumerism, pornography, usury, credentialism, libertinism, but chiefest among these the doctrine of evolution have hollowed and destroyed belief.
I will give you this, though, the people that let themselves be taken over have some degree of culpability.
Tell me, how exactly is a religion that preaches "love your enemy" or "turn the other cheek" and that worships the pointless suicide sacrifice by its messiah going to defend you from your enemies? Besides the downfall of Europe began before WW1. Not after WW2. But if you want to follow a religion that demands unquestioning obedience be my guest.
And please don't come with the argument that it was Christianity that stopped Islam from taking over Europe. It was Europeans that defended Europe against invaders. Christianity had shit all to do with it. In fact Christianity was detrimental to European unity and caused more than just a few wars within Europe.
I find it hilarious you question how Christianity could defend anything with "love your enemy" then bring up how Christian nations fought against Islam. Think on that one more time.
Christianity is the reason Europe, then America, led the world. Medieval Europe stopped entire percentage points of their population from reproducing. Christian morals led to the pruning of dysgenic behaviors through extreme intolerance of criminality and licentiousness and the selection of eugenic traits like integrity, thoughtfulness, selflessness, etc.
Then there are the more direct cultural and political influences. For example, America is famously founded on natural born rights, an explicitly Christian concept.
It only took a couple decades from the First World's general abandonment of Christianity for the very fabric of reality to fall apart. The decline is so sharp that it can scarcely be believed. We've gone from Richard Dawkins calling religion child abuse to calling for a return to cultural Christianity in little over ten years.
European nations. An imported religion can't take the credit for the achievements of the European peoples.
Christianity is the reason Europe, then America, led the world.
You mean led the world to its current state? I agree.
Christian morals led to the pruning of dysgenic behaviors through extreme intolerance of criminality and licentiousness and the selection of eugenic traits like integrity, thoughtfulness, selflessness, etc.
You must truly hate European culture for you to think that Europeans were a bunch of degenerate, animal like barbarians before Christianity came to "save" them.
For example, America is famously founded on natural born rights, an explicitly Christian concept.
You do realize that the US is the main vessel for the powers that are destroying European culture? Has been at least since WW1. Also evangelical Christians are the most fanatic supporters of Israel you can find anywhere on this world. But I guess they aren't real Christians.
European nations. An imported religion can't take the credit for the achievements of the European peoples.
Do you understand what eugenics means or do you just think that the races were spawned into being with all their current attributes at some arbitrary time in the past?
You do realize that the US is the main vessel for the powers that are destroying European culture? Has been at least since WW1. Also evangelical Christians are the most fanatic supporters of Israel you can find anywhere on this world. But I guess they aren't real Christians.
LOL, blaming the US for Jewish subversion. Really rich.
Do you understand what eugenics means or do you just think that the races were spawned into being with all their current attributes at some arbitrary time in the past?
I repeat my question. Do you hate European cultures so much that you think Europeans were a bunch of degenerate, thoughtless barbarians before Christianity arrived and saved them?
Or are you just an American with very limited knowledge of European history?
LOL, blaming the US for Jewish subversion. Really rich.
Don't deflect. Shouldn't it be Christian to take responsibility for your own actions even if the devil tricked you into doing it? Growth is impossible if you don't take responsibility.
Europeans did. Germans, Polish, Serbians, Croatians etc. The only thing the Church did was enrich themselves on the backs of the European peoples and caused more bloodshed and terror within Europe than the Muslim horde ever did.
You'll get the "not true Christianity", similar to the "not real Communism" rebuttal.
There is some truth to the idea that a lot of denominations aren't practicing "real Christianity". But it's a big problem that many of those denominations are subverted. The problem is too many followers misinterpret sections of the Bible as pacifism, or just skip over some of Jesus' more violent moments/sayings. The bulk of the religion functioning as an organized one is what doomed it to its current state. Protestants and their descendant sects can grumble all they want, but some of them are part of the issue too.
The weakling types need a reckoning or awakening, but beware of their opposite extreme, that think the solution is to start purging non-believers and make religion law.
Christianity just like Islam demands to be your first priority in life. That is the nature of organised monotheistic religions. And that's precisely the problem. The health and success of your own people, your family need to be your first priority and not some deity.
Depends. Rome is a good example for what you could achieve but they fell into the master/slave trap that ultimately led to the collapse of their empire.
There’s a Lebanese Christian man that owns an amazing Mediterranean restaurant by me. Nicest man on the planet, wear a cross openly at work and makes the best toum I’ve ever had. Was chatting with him one time and he saw the writing on the wall a while back so he immigrated out here because there’s a decent amount of orthodox Christians here. Not trying to be like omg food! But I’ll take a proud Mediterranean Christian making healthy food over the processed crap any day.
Blame the French. With the end of European colonialism and rule in the middle east, Lebanon's borders were specifically drawn to give the Christians at most an incredibly slim majority, thus making them dependent on Europe to stay in power. It didn't work out. They got flooded out by Palestinians, Christians emigrated, and the Muslims had a lot more babies.
If the French had not deliberately gerrymandered in some heavily Muslim areas, Lebanon would still be a Christian majority country.
Lebanon has not had an official census since 1932. The Christians know their share will have fallen dramatically (maybe 30-35%), and this would mean an end to the power sharing agreement that keeps Lebanon at least vaguelly held together.
Reminder: Mohammed was a cross dressing, camel screwing, slave trading, warlord pedophile who married a six year old girl but waited until she was nine to rape her. Check his book!
Western nations still don't "officially" allow Muslim polygamy yet. That will be the tipping point in the population bomb. (but they've already destroyed themselves demographically without remigration)
It was by no means "one day". Not only does the video show it isn't, there was also a bloody civil war which the Christians lost, then there was a constitution that guaranteed their minority status going forward.
Multiculturalism is a death sentence for the less prolific demographics and less culturally assertive.
Basically the nice people who open their borders lose their culture and go extinct.
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth.
Multiculturalism in itself isn't always a problem, thought there are plenty of cultures with inferior or at least dubious habits and morals. Leftists have successfully converted this word and turned it into multiracialism. Europe was already multicultural, the USA were already multicultural and multiracial, etc. Some less meaning individuals disagree with proportions apparently. Ad to this that the heads of both unions, the EU and the USA, want to decide the population's composition artificially, and the race towards whatever lies beyond the finish line is on.
Ideology on the other hand... Islam coexists only with itself. Well not really, the Shia and Sunni still disagree a bit. Violently, from time to time (this is, of course, surprising).
The persistence of ''Europe's multiculturalism'' depended on strict territoriality.
Languages/cultures without strong states of their own were in perpetual danger of dying-out.
Switzerland, sometimes brought-up as a counter-example, has its own problems. Lombard, Arpitan, Jurassian and Romanche native languages are being replaced.
The French / Hochdeutsch/Italian cohabitation works because each language has official status on its ''own'' territory ( actually over former Arpitan and current Alemanic territory ). ''Italian'' territory is actually Lombard territory, and Lombard is being replaced.
I don't know how many people pretended cohabitation ever worked for the Romanche. It never did. It's losing ground, and its speakers have to learn and speak Alemanic and Hochdeutsch.
Otherwise, be it France, Italy, the United Kingdom, Spain, all tried to get rid of their minorities, and don't, and reasonably cannot, accomodate all their indigenous languages to full official status like a self-governing homogenous linguistic group can.
Spain is probably the state I mentionned that most accomodates its native minorities, but still grants no official status to them on the federal level, and its constitution mandates that all its citizens must know Spanish, and have a right to speak it. You're technically not constitutionally allowed to live your whole life speaking, example, Basque or Catalan. You have to speak Spanish when the federal government deals with you. Schools have to teach Spanish ( not only Spanish, but Spanish has to be there, students have to speak it, while minority languages can be absent in schools of their own territory. This has obvious consequences on the vitality / transmission and attraction power of other languages.
Luxemburg touted itself as a ''successful'' meeting ground between Germanic natives and French influence and immigrants. Well Luxemburgish is now dying, with fewer than 30% of kids speaking it now. It was never going to last. It never does.
Partial revivals are always on precarious grounds, and have their roots in... wait for it... strong nationalism and pro-indepdance mouvements ( Ex : Basque and Catalan ). Independance and nationalism aren't always enough though : Ireland kept hemmoraging Irish language and culture for decades after independance and it's still uncertain some form of Irish as a living community language will survive.
Multiculturalism dosen't last, it's a death sentence for smaller languages/cultures within a multicultural state. Multiracialism is a death sentence for White people.
Mass-migration on top of it inevitably results in foreigners agitating for removal of protection policies for minority languages, as they don't want to have to learn multiple languages. They want to learn the dominant language. And thus force the native minority to speak the dominant language more and more untill it dies under pressure.
Occasionally that smaller culture can somehow subvert and control the larger, or establish a position of prestige. The smaller isn't always the doomed one.
When you point it out, it's racist conspiracy when they point it out it's a matter of pride
Chad Saddam Hussein subjugating the Shiites in Iraq and refusing to elaborate
Multiculturalism might not last but preventing it might be a tough sell and would require the intervention of the state. Multiracialism will never work as long as the same state is aggressively pushing it. The people have to oppose these issues themselves, even against the state, in order for any of this to at least slow down if not stop. And if the state doesn't fear you, good luck! The state having too much power over its own citizens got everyone in this mess. Maybe.
What I was arguing is that Islam is a far greater threat than the others at the moment. Would you be accepting of it if the push came from those belonging to the same race and culture as you? Is there a way to stop all those issues at the same time at this point or do they have to be dealt with one by one? If I'm wrong then it's a good thing no head of state listens to me.
Multi-culturalism is always a problem, because multi-culturalism requires segregation and parallel societies.
Other populations have two choices:
It is always a problem and always leads to destruction. Sure, they can keep it going for awhile, but it comes to an explosive end. Civic Nationalism is a lie.
You got an upvote, not for the deletion of a comment but for your username
It's painful, watching so many European nations copy Lebanon's timeline STEP BY STEP, WORD FOR WORD... knowing exactly what happens every single time.
"There is no Future, no Present; only the Past happening over and over again."
talking about repeated history
Who opened the gates of Toledo?
What do they all have in common? Christianity. Christianity itself with it's victim worshiping complex is the problem. Yes, you have Jewish organisations that are the forefront and center organizing mass immigration into Europe but Christians are the ones who willingly let it happen.
Yeah, here in Germany both major churches (catholics & protestants) welcome "refuggees".
I don't blame Xtianity as much as GP, but those faggots need to be deposed.
I hate to make a Rings of Power analogy. But you know getting caught with the Palantir? The Palantir is Jews, and those leaders are consulting it.
Why are Christians so susceptible to Jewish influence when Christianity supposedly teaches that Jews are the Synagogue of Satan? Christianity had plenty of time to rid itself of it but never did. It wasn't Christian enough or what?
Pretending Europe is Christian is a laugh. The elites have been atheist for double or triple your lifetime, if not more. (Merkel a churchgoer? Lol.) The rubes aren't far behind. The average Euro "Christian" is more like an atheist in the sense that the average Japanese person is simultaneously atheist and Zen Buddhist.
Consumerism, pornography, usury, credentialism, libertinism, but chiefest among these the doctrine of evolution have hollowed and destroyed belief.
I will give you this, though, the people that let themselves be taken over have some degree of culpability.
Tell me, how exactly is a religion that preaches "love your enemy" or "turn the other cheek" and that worships the pointless suicide sacrifice by its messiah going to defend you from your enemies? Besides the downfall of Europe began before WW1. Not after WW2. But if you want to follow a religion that demands unquestioning obedience be my guest.
And please don't come with the argument that it was Christianity that stopped Islam from taking over Europe. It was Europeans that defended Europe against invaders. Christianity had shit all to do with it. In fact Christianity was detrimental to European unity and caused more than just a few wars within Europe.
I find it hilarious you question how Christianity could defend anything with "love your enemy" then bring up how Christian nations fought against Islam. Think on that one more time.
Christianity is the reason Europe, then America, led the world. Medieval Europe stopped entire percentage points of their population from reproducing. Christian morals led to the pruning of dysgenic behaviors through extreme intolerance of criminality and licentiousness and the selection of eugenic traits like integrity, thoughtfulness, selflessness, etc.
Then there are the more direct cultural and political influences. For example, America is famously founded on natural born rights, an explicitly Christian concept.
It only took a couple decades from the First World's general abandonment of Christianity for the very fabric of reality to fall apart. The decline is so sharp that it can scarcely be believed. We've gone from Richard Dawkins calling religion child abuse to calling for a return to cultural Christianity in little over ten years.
European nations. An imported religion can't take the credit for the achievements of the European peoples.
You mean led the world to its current state? I agree.
You must truly hate European culture for you to think that Europeans were a bunch of degenerate, animal like barbarians before Christianity came to "save" them.
You do realize that the US is the main vessel for the powers that are destroying European culture? Has been at least since WW1. Also evangelical Christians are the most fanatic supporters of Israel you can find anywhere on this world. But I guess they aren't real Christians.
This development started long before even WW1.
Do you understand what eugenics means or do you just think that the races were spawned into being with all their current attributes at some arbitrary time in the past?
LOL, blaming the US for Jewish subversion. Really rich.
I repeat my question. Do you hate European cultures so much that you think Europeans were a bunch of degenerate, thoughtless barbarians before Christianity arrived and saved them?
Or are you just an American with very limited knowledge of European history?
Don't deflect. Shouldn't it be Christian to take responsibility for your own actions even if the devil tricked you into doing it? Growth is impossible if you don't take responsibility.
Christians held back the Muslim horde for centuries and birthed the Crusaders. What we are witnessing is a recent phenomenon.
Europeans did. Germans, Polish, Serbians, Croatians etc. The only thing the Church did was enrich themselves on the backs of the European peoples and caused more bloodshed and terror within Europe than the Muslim horde ever did.
You'll get the "not true Christianity", similar to the "not real Communism" rebuttal.
There is some truth to the idea that a lot of denominations aren't practicing "real Christianity". But it's a big problem that many of those denominations are subverted. The problem is too many followers misinterpret sections of the Bible as pacifism, or just skip over some of Jesus' more violent moments/sayings. The bulk of the religion functioning as an organized one is what doomed it to its current state. Protestants and their descendant sects can grumble all they want, but some of them are part of the issue too.
The weakling types need a reckoning or awakening, but beware of their opposite extreme, that think the solution is to start purging non-believers and make religion law.
Christianity just like Islam demands to be your first priority in life. That is the nature of organised monotheistic religions. And that's precisely the problem. The health and success of your own people, your family need to be your first priority and not some deity.
Depends. Rome is a good example for what you could achieve but they fell into the master/slave trap that ultimately led to the collapse of their empire.
There’s a Lebanese Christian man that owns an amazing Mediterranean restaurant by me. Nicest man on the planet, wear a cross openly at work and makes the best toum I’ve ever had. Was chatting with him one time and he saw the writing on the wall a while back so he immigrated out here because there’s a decent amount of orthodox Christians here. Not trying to be like omg food! But I’ll take a proud Mediterranean Christian making healthy food over the processed crap any day.
They are Christian. They are basically white - - they look the same as Meds to me. What's not to like?
Then one day, just like that, it became the Paris of the middle-east.
Blame the French. With the end of European colonialism and rule in the middle east, Lebanon's borders were specifically drawn to give the Christians at most an incredibly slim majority, thus making them dependent on Europe to stay in power. It didn't work out. They got flooded out by Palestinians, Christians emigrated, and the Muslims had a lot more babies.
If the French had not deliberately gerrymandered in some heavily Muslim areas, Lebanon would still be a Christian majority country.
Lebanon has not had an official census since 1932. The Christians know their share will have fallen dramatically (maybe 30-35%), and this would mean an end to the power sharing agreement that keeps Lebanon at least vaguelly held together.
Reminder: Mohammed was a cross dressing, camel screwing, slave trading, warlord pedophile who married a six year old girl but waited until she was nine to rape her. Check his book!
Western nations still don't "officially" allow Muslim polygamy yet. That will be the tipping point in the population bomb. (but they've already destroyed themselves demographically without remigration)
Yes, so wives 2, 3, and 4, being legally unwed, all sign up for welfare as single moms.
Exactly. They do love a welfare state. There is a reason they flock to them.
Yes that sounds even worse for cucked social welfare states which is most of Europe.
This is the diversity the Left so dearly wants for the West.
Shit even Paris aint the "Paris of" anymore
Paris is the Middle East of Europe
It was by no means "one day". Not only does the video show it isn't, there was also a bloody civil war which the Christians lost, then there was a constitution that guaranteed their minority status going forward.
Muslims are a problem everywhere they go. They can out breed you and out zeal you, if you let them.