European nations. An imported religion can't take the credit for the achievements of the European peoples.
Do you understand what eugenics means or do you just think that the races were spawned into being with all their current attributes at some arbitrary time in the past?
You do realize that the US is the main vessel for the powers that are destroying European culture? Has been at least since WW1. Also evangelical Christians are the most fanatic supporters of Israel you can find anywhere on this world. But I guess they aren't real Christians.
LOL, blaming the US for Jewish subversion. Really rich.
Do you understand what eugenics means or do you just think that the races were spawned into being with all their current attributes at some arbitrary time in the past?
I repeat my question. Do you hate European cultures so much that you think Europeans were a bunch of degenerate, thoughtless barbarians before Christianity arrived and saved them?
Or are you just an American with very limited knowledge of European history?
LOL, blaming the US for Jewish subversion. Really rich.
Don't deflect. Shouldn't it be Christian to take responsibility for your own actions even if the devil tricked you into doing it? Growth is impossible if you don't take responsibility.
I repeat my question. Do you hate European cultures so much that you think Europeans were a bunch of degenerate, thoughtless barbarians before Christianity arrived and saved them?
"Either you agree with my strawman or you agree with me"
Please. Europeans would have likely done OK without Christianity, but they did better with it. Unless you think the likes of Boudica would have stopped the hordes even earlier than the Battle of Tours.
Don't deflect. Shouldn't it be Christian to take responsibility for your own actions even if the devil tricked you into doing it? Growth is impossible if you don't take responsibility.
Hahaha, you think you're clever, don't you? I was alluding to consequential European Jewish elements like the Rothschilds, the Frankfurt School, Bauhaus, the Bolsheviks, and others.
Europeans would have likely done OK without Christianity, but they did better with it.
How could you possible know that? The Roman Empire at the peak of its power was pagan. It was already on the decline when it embraced Christianity, yes, but one it did it collapsed entirely. So to say that Christianity was the reason for European success is a daring statement.
Unless you think the likes of Boudica would have stopped the hordes even earlier than the Battle of Tours.
The "barbarian" hordes brought the Roman Empire to its knees and the Roman Empire was significantly more powerful than any of the Islamic Caliphates ever were.
I was alluding to consequential European Jewish elements like the Rothschilds, the Frankfurt School, Bauhaus, the Bolsheviks, and others.
What's your point? That Christianity in its 2000 year history never dealt with those parasitic elements but instead actually helped them to succeed?
How could you possible know that? The Roman Empire at the peak of its power was pagan. It was already on the decline when it embraced Christianity, yes, but one it did it collapsed entirely.
The Roman character at its peak was clearly superior to the barbarian character. The barbarians sacked Rome after centuries of degenerate decisions, kind of like beating up a fat pensioner. Were the barbarians capable of using the Roman system to uplift themselves to the heights of Rome? Obviously not. There were no signs of that. They needed something else to change them.
As you already admit, you can't blame Christianity for the collapse of the Roman Empire. It's more that Christianity kept the Byzantines alive long past their expiration date.
The "barbarian" hordes brought the Roman Empire to its knees and the Roman Empire was significantly more powerful than any of the Islamic Caliphates ever were.
I don't know how you came to this conclusion.
Paganism is mediocrity. It has never succeeded in creating a First World nation. Every pagan people has had to be dragged into enlightenment and industry, like India or the Aztecs. There's a lot more to be said about this, but for now the results speak for themselves.
What's your point? That Christianity in its 2000 year history never dealt with those parasitic elements but instead actually helped them to succeed?
My point was to defend the conception of America as one of the world's greatest achievements, since you're apparently edgy enough to think it was a net negative. But to discuss the Jews and the Europeans, the Jewish diaspora was a unique event in history and it's not clear whether pagan Europe would have treated them harsher than Christian Europe, which held them responsible for killing Christ and expelled them, infamously, over 100 times.
Do you understand what eugenics means or do you just think that the races were spawned into being with all their current attributes at some arbitrary time in the past?
LOL, blaming the US for Jewish subversion. Really rich.
I repeat my question. Do you hate European cultures so much that you think Europeans were a bunch of degenerate, thoughtless barbarians before Christianity arrived and saved them?
Or are you just an American with very limited knowledge of European history?
Don't deflect. Shouldn't it be Christian to take responsibility for your own actions even if the devil tricked you into doing it? Growth is impossible if you don't take responsibility.
"Either you agree with my strawman or you agree with me"
Please. Europeans would have likely done OK without Christianity, but they did better with it. Unless you think the likes of Boudica would have stopped the hordes even earlier than the Battle of Tours.
Hahaha, you think you're clever, don't you? I was alluding to consequential European Jewish elements like the Rothschilds, the Frankfurt School, Bauhaus, the Bolsheviks, and others.
How could you possible know that? The Roman Empire at the peak of its power was pagan. It was already on the decline when it embraced Christianity, yes, but one it did it collapsed entirely. So to say that Christianity was the reason for European success is a daring statement.
The "barbarian" hordes brought the Roman Empire to its knees and the Roman Empire was significantly more powerful than any of the Islamic Caliphates ever were.
What's your point? That Christianity in its 2000 year history never dealt with those parasitic elements but instead actually helped them to succeed?
The Roman character at its peak was clearly superior to the barbarian character. The barbarians sacked Rome after centuries of degenerate decisions, kind of like beating up a fat pensioner. Were the barbarians capable of using the Roman system to uplift themselves to the heights of Rome? Obviously not. There were no signs of that. They needed something else to change them.
As you already admit, you can't blame Christianity for the collapse of the Roman Empire. It's more that Christianity kept the Byzantines alive long past their expiration date.
I don't know how you came to this conclusion.
Paganism is mediocrity. It has never succeeded in creating a First World nation. Every pagan people has had to be dragged into enlightenment and industry, like India or the Aztecs. There's a lot more to be said about this, but for now the results speak for themselves.
My point was to defend the conception of America as one of the world's greatest achievements, since you're apparently edgy enough to think it was a net negative. But to discuss the Jews and the Europeans, the Jewish diaspora was a unique event in history and it's not clear whether pagan Europe would have treated them harsher than Christian Europe, which held them responsible for killing Christ and expelled them, infamously, over 100 times.