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Lebanon was a rich, prosperous Christian nation. "The Paris of the Middle East". And then one day, just like that... (videy.co)
posted 8 months ago by weltallic 8 months ago by weltallic +117 / -1
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– Degex -16 points 8 months ago +6 / -22

Multiculturalism in itself isn't always a problem, thought there are plenty of cultures with inferior or at least dubious habits and morals. Leftists have successfully converted this word and turned it into multiracialism. Europe was already multicultural, the USA were already multicultural and multiracial, etc. Some less meaning individuals disagree with proportions apparently. Ad to this that the heads of both unions, the EU and the USA, want to decide the population's composition artificially, and the race towards whatever lies beyond the finish line is on.

Ideology on the other hand... Islam coexists only with itself. Well not really, the Shia and Sunni still disagree a bit. Violently, from time to time (this is, of course, surprising).

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– RoulerBleu 24 points 8 months ago +24 / -0

The persistence of ''Europe's multiculturalism'' depended on strict territoriality.

Languages/cultures without strong states of their own were in perpetual danger of dying-out.

Switzerland, sometimes brought-up as a counter-example, has its own problems. Lombard, Arpitan, Jurassian and Romanche native languages are being replaced.

The French / Hochdeutsch/Italian cohabitation works because each language has official status on its ''own'' territory ( actually over former Arpitan and current Alemanic territory ). ''Italian'' territory is actually Lombard territory, and Lombard is being replaced.

I don't know how many people pretended cohabitation ever worked for the Romanche. It never did. It's losing ground, and its speakers have to learn and speak Alemanic and Hochdeutsch.

Otherwise, be it France, Italy, the United Kingdom, Spain, all tried to get rid of their minorities, and don't, and reasonably cannot, accomodate all their indigenous languages to full official status like a self-governing homogenous linguistic group can.

Spain is probably the state I mentionned that most accomodates its native minorities, but still grants no official status to them on the federal level, and its constitution mandates that all its citizens must know Spanish, and have a right to speak it. You're technically not constitutionally allowed to live your whole life speaking, example, Basque or Catalan. You have to speak Spanish when the federal government deals with you. Schools have to teach Spanish ( not only Spanish, but Spanish has to be there, students have to speak it, while minority languages can be absent in schools of their own territory. This has obvious consequences on the vitality / transmission and attraction power of other languages.

Luxemburg touted itself as a ''successful'' meeting ground between Germanic natives and French influence and immigrants. Well Luxemburgish is now dying, with fewer than 30% of kids speaking it now. It was never going to last. It never does.

Partial revivals are always on precarious grounds, and have their roots in... wait for it... strong nationalism and pro-indepdance mouvements ( Ex : Basque and Catalan ). Independance and nationalism aren't always enough though : Ireland kept hemmoraging Irish language and culture for decades after independance and it's still uncertain some form of Irish as a living community language will survive.

Multiculturalism dosen't last, it's a death sentence for smaller languages/cultures within a multicultural state. Multiracialism is a death sentence for White people.

Mass-migration on top of it inevitably results in foreigners agitating for removal of protection policies for minority languages, as they don't want to have to learn multiple languages. They want to learn the dominant language. And thus force the native minority to speak the dominant language more and more untill it dies under pressure.

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– Vicious_snek6 8 points 8 months ago +8 / -0

it's a death sentence for smaller languages/cultures within a multicultural state.

Occasionally that smaller culture can somehow subvert and control the larger, or establish a position of prestige. The smaller isn't always the doomed one.

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– ParadigmShift2070 5 points 8 months ago +5 / -0

When you point it out, it's racist conspiracy when they point it out it's a matter of pride

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 8 months ago +2 / -0

Chad Saddam Hussein subjugating the Shiites in Iraq and refusing to elaborate

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– Degex 4 points 8 months ago +5 / -1

Multiculturalism doesn't last, it's a death sentence for smaller languages/cultures within a multicultural state. Multiracialism is a death sentence for White people.

Multiculturalism might not last but preventing it might be a tough sell and would require the intervention of the state. Multiracialism will never work as long as the same state is aggressively pushing it. The people have to oppose these issues themselves, even against the state, in order for any of this to at least slow down if not stop. And if the state doesn't fear you, good luck! The state having too much power over its own citizens got everyone in this mess. Maybe.

What I was arguing is that Islam is a far greater threat than the others at the moment. Would you be accepting of it if the push came from those belonging to the same race and culture as you? Is there a way to stop all those issues at the same time at this point or do they have to be dealt with one by one? If I'm wrong then it's a good thing no head of state listens to me.

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– covok48 1 point 8 months ago +1 / -0

It is always a problem and always leads to destruction. Sure, they can keep it going for awhile, but it comes to an explosive end. Civic Nationalism is a lie.

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– Gizortnik 0 points 8 months ago +3 / -3

Multi-culturalism is always a problem, because multi-culturalism requires segregation and parallel societies.

Other populations have two choices:

  • They can assimilate into the larger population
  • They can accept being an "eccentricity", where they are still integrated into the larger society as a whole, but are never a sufficient challenge to it.
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