Oh look, another "conservative" outlet is revealing itself to be controlled opposition.
Men who ascribe to two particular aspects of stereotypical traditional masculinity, supporting the use of violence and placing high importance on sexual virility, eat more meat than other men
Yeah, it turns out that manly men eat meat instead of the soy based chemical sludge that the vegan industry is trying to force on everyone. In other news, grass is green.
He notes that public-health messages encouraging people to consume less meat may be counterproductive for many men. “It comes across as a threat” to their freedom and, by extension, their masculinity, he says.
I wonder why that is. Could it be that our feminist controlled government has already claimed the right to declare a public health emergency and make decisions about people's health without their informed consent?
No, it's because you are psychologically incapable of confronting the fact that you are the animal in the equation from the vantage of the ruling class, and you can deflect all of that shame and anxiety by reducing animals to your own status and assuming the rolling class position. There is in my experience a clear and direct correlation between identifying virility with meat consumption and unwillingness to consider your social position according to class dynamics.
Nothing about decades of race mixing propaganda or federal dysgenics subsidies goes through the mind of the average 20 year old white girl pregnant with her 2nd mixed bastard either, that's the point: it's behavior from a program that runs in the mind of simpletons who are controlled by hypnotic narrative.
I said mind, not conscious mind. Mind includes the subconscious you're pretending we're not aware of. For most people, meat is completely removed from any association of dominance, it's merely a tasty and nutritious food they habitually buy from the grocery store and eat. In fact, it's far more comfortable to think of meat in those terms so no one has to juggle with the emotional side of killing animals. Those hangups you're talking about are nonexistent and genuinely sound like projection. Your whole tone is pretty caustic, so I think this bitter hierarchy theory of yours is just your own self-loathing shining through.
Do you have credible evidence for your claims outside of "your own experience?" Surely, if this is a phenomenon you've objectively observed or studied, you can provide evidence for it.
When they say "American" men they mean white men. Because they love pointing out the athleticism of black men and that stereotype about the BBC. This is just an attack on white dudes.
And, like everything else, that's also just something niggers stole.
Because using Seasoned Salt and calling a meal good is just generic Southern Culture (personally I'm partial to Morton's Season All myself).*
So their compulsion to always steal and claim things as their property even compels them to steal the worst parts of our Culture too and act like it belongs to just them.
*We do also have access to more complex recipes, but sometimes you also just want to cook 20 burgers for the family without a lot of thinking. They seem to lack that addendum to balance it out.
I despise pseudoscience, Science™, bad science, and I Can't Believe It's Not Science®.
Men who ascribe to two particular aspects of stereotypical traditional masculinity, supporting the use of violence and placing high importance on sexual virility, eat more meat than other men
You could easily flip that around, and say men who eat more meat are more likely to appreciate virility and the potential for violence.
It's not science if it knows the answer it will publish before the "study" even takes place. Although I will say, I'm just going off that article; this could be one of the many instance where the article goes against the actual study to push their own agenda. Many such cases.
American men have a meat problem.
I assure you, there's no problem there. My meat is tremendous. Many people say, they've never seen anything like it.
This entire line of rhetoric demonizing red meat has only ever been an effort to discourage people from becoming healthy. The people pushing it are evil and should be treated as such.
No, it's my metric for whether you are a poser weakling grifting through vicarious sensation of strength by way of participation in corporate loyalty though.
I curl 110 or so though as a guy in his 40s who has been a vegan since 2012 though, which does indicate some degree of physical strength, yes
These are absolutely meaningless indicators of fitness or force potential and are only even considered as a cope for being orders of magnitude inferior physically.
We're talking about masculinity not "fitness". Nor does something those people attain through literal lifetimes of discipline, training and exercise mean that veganism is inherently healthy, especially for western men.
Your entire premise here is a category error. Although that still puts you head and shoulders above any other arguments I've ever heard from a vegan so take some pride in that.
A tiny, self selecting group of monks are. Asians in general are the size of children.
Tell me, why might that be? If you claim their ancestral diet of little meat and no cheese has nothing to do with it, then why are they so fuckin little anyway?
Because every anthropologist on earth thinks it's because their race became that way for lack of nutrients.
No it doesn't. And "force" by the way absolutely takes mass into account lol. Not only are you denying biology and nutrition now you're denying physics.
The research on the amount of metabolized protein and its utility is a bit muddy. Purely in terms of muscle growth you are probably right. However protein/amino acids is the building blocks of pretty much everything and also is used in every system of your body. My understanding of the current research is that even if the protein isn't used for muscle growth always having enough available just makes your body work better in every aspect. In the worst case that protein is burned for energy which just makes it more expensive calories. Anecdotally I just feel healthier, stronger, and less fragile despite not changing my exercise habits.
I'm approximately 200 and have been on 200g of protein for the last 40 days and while it is an adjustment but it isn't hard if you are willing to plan ahead.
It gets a bit harder and more expensive if you are on calorie restriction, if you aren't then you have many options. Also gets somewhat harder, and more expensive, if you are can't do dairy as the lowfat/fat free yogurt, milk, and cottage cheese are lowcal and cheap protein sources.
A slice of costco cheese pizza has 30g of protein but you don't want to get your daily protein from that exclusively unless you are a lineman or laborer.
My standard meals are protein shake w/ milk for breakfast, a pile of meat (pork chicken or canned tuna) and beans for lunch, then a salad with some added meat for dinner.
You cook up 2 pounds of chicken or pork twice a week, then have your occasional more costly meats like steak and salmon once a week or every other week. Supplement with canned tuna, canned salmon, for variety and convenience. Greek yogurt or cottage cheese with flavored protein powder makes for a desert if you feel the need.
I started the diet on a lower than recommended calorie count for my weight and activity and have been dropping it weekly and haven't felt hungry after the first week. If anything I have to force myself to eat enough to meet my nutrition goals despite theoretical daily calorie deficit of about 500 currently.
I know not everyone is autistic enough to log every calorie but the basic advice of "more protein" is sound no matter what your current diet is.
I had a whole reply long typed up when my phone died, I will get back to you. Long story short is, I am a patchwork of drunk fighting wounds from my (not yet vegan) youth and find building muscle difficult with so many torn joints. Also I eat mostly rice/beans/corn/peas or cereal & peanut butter.
In another comment chain we are discussing the relative difficulty of even eating this much food, you'd have to eat like it's your job. Only a small minority of disciplined people would even think to do it.
I understand birth control has made women more retarded than usual, but if women were actually attracted to skinny-fat soylems, all men would be doing it. You're not going to change millions of years of evolutionary firmware just because it's Current Year™.
The entire anti-meat thing can be summed up as " my giant soldiers get their (literal) pound of flesh, and you peasants get no real protein so that your children grow up weak and small."
If you do like steak and burgers, how much should you eat? One hamburger a week or one 12-ounce steak a month is a good limit for red meat, Willett says
I'll agree the meat fad amongst the right is probably 60% LARPing but one little steak a month is insane.
Oh look, another "conservative" outlet is revealing itself to be controlled opposition.
Yeah, it turns out that manly men eat meat instead of the soy based chemical sludge that the vegan industry is trying to force on everyone. In other news, grass is green.
I wonder why that is. Could it be that our feminist controlled government has already claimed the right to declare a public health emergency and make decisions about people's health without their informed consent?
No, it's because you are psychologically incapable of confronting the fact that you are the animal in the equation from the vantage of the ruling class, and you can deflect all of that shame and anxiety by reducing animals to your own status and assuming the rolling class position. There is in my experience a clear and direct correlation between identifying virility with meat consumption and unwillingness to consider your social position according to class dynamics.
Now this is the most bizarre troll persona I've seen in a while. Kudos for being coherent though.
It’s an interesting evolution. Comes off likely a creative writing exercise; troll an alt-right message board from the pov of a vegan conservative.
Low effort troll
No, it's because meat is delicious and healthy. None of that Oedipus complex-equivalent bullshit goes through anyone's head when they eat meat, lmao.
On second thought, it sounds like you're trying to reduce meat eaters in the way you claim they do to animals.
Nothing about decades of race mixing propaganda or federal dysgenics subsidies goes through the mind of the average 20 year old white girl pregnant with her 2nd mixed bastard either, that's the point: it's behavior from a program that runs in the mind of simpletons who are controlled by hypnotic narrative.
I said mind, not conscious mind. Mind includes the subconscious you're pretending we're not aware of. For most people, meat is completely removed from any association of dominance, it's merely a tasty and nutritious food they habitually buy from the grocery store and eat. In fact, it's far more comfortable to think of meat in those terms so no one has to juggle with the emotional side of killing animals. Those hangups you're talking about are nonexistent and genuinely sound like projection. Your whole tone is pretty caustic, so I think this bitter hierarchy theory of yours is just your own self-loathing shining through.
Do you have credible evidence for your claims outside of "your own experience?" Surely, if this is a phenomenon you've objectively observed or studied, you can provide evidence for it.
You disagreed with me and then proceeded to articulate basically exactly what I said, except with some evident pride rather than critical examination.
Wrong. I said this "program" doesn't exist. If you think it does, show evidence.
You're saying "source?" To the idea that people are influenced by cultural information?
Ok handshake. Time to give you the heave-ho.
Lol ok reddit faggot
When they say "American" men they mean white men. Because they love pointing out the athleticism of black men and that stereotype about the BBC. This is just an attack on white dudes.
Not to mention that those same black men eat the most disgusting and sloppy forms of meat. Some of them even bleach their fucking chicken.
Excuse me, it's called seasoning.
Nah. The lawry's seasoned salt is their seasoning. The bleach is just because they are retarded.
And, like everything else, that's also just something niggers stole.
Because using Seasoned Salt and calling a meal good is just generic Southern Culture (personally I'm partial to Morton's Season All myself).*
So their compulsion to always steal and claim things as their property even compels them to steal the worst parts of our Culture too and act like it belongs to just them.
*We do also have access to more complex recipes, but sometimes you also just want to cook 20 burgers for the family without a lot of thinking. They seem to lack that addendum to balance it out.
You leave Lawry’s seasoning out of this!
I appreciate science and the scientific method.
I despise pseudoscience, Science™, bad science, and I Can't Believe It's Not Science®.
You could easily flip that around, and say men who eat more meat are more likely to appreciate virility and the potential for violence.
It's not science if it knows the answer it will publish before the "study" even takes place. Although I will say, I'm just going off that article; this could be one of the many instance where the article goes against the actual study to push their own agenda. Many such cases.
I assure you, there's no problem there. My meat is tremendous. Many people say, they've never seen anything like it.
You could also flip it as "vegans are limp wristed impotent cowards.
I have never once seen a healthy vegan.
This entire line of rhetoric demonizing red meat has only ever been an effort to discourage people from becoming healthy. The people pushing it are evil and should be treated as such.
How much do you curl?
Nobody who lifts asks “how much do you curl” wtf. Biceps curl? Really? That’s your strength gauge?
No, it's my metric for whether you are a poser weakling grifting through vicarious sensation of strength by way of participation in corporate loyalty though.
I curl 110 or so though as a guy in his 40s who has been a vegan since 2012 though, which does indicate some degree of physical strength, yes
Your entire faggot body.
Soy shrinks the testicles, yo.
Shaolin monks are vegans from childhood and they break rods all over their body routinely.
And their race is about five feet tall and has no body hair. Wanna keep going?
These are absolutely meaningless indicators of fitness or force potential and are only even considered as a cope for being orders of magnitude inferior physically.
We're talking about masculinity not "fitness". Nor does something those people attain through literal lifetimes of discipline, training and exercise mean that veganism is inherently healthy, especially for western men.
Your entire premise here is a category error. Although that still puts you head and shoulders above any other arguments I've ever heard from a vegan so take some pride in that.
You are the one who set the parameters as "limp wristed/impotent" etc. In fact they are among the toughest humans on earth.
No "they" aren't.
A tiny, self selecting group of monks are. Asians in general are the size of children.
Tell me, why might that be? If you claim their ancestral diet of little meat and no cheese has nothing to do with it, then why are they so fuckin little anyway?
Because every anthropologist on earth thinks it's because their race became that way for lack of nutrients.
And it does literally mean that a vegan diet feeds performance that is orders of magnitude above your own capability.
No it doesn't. And "force" by the way absolutely takes mass into account lol. Not only are you denying biology and nutrition now you're denying physics.
Vegan and autistic.
eat more meat
beef has good stuff and tastes great but isn't the best in terms of calories per protein, pork and chicken and fish are better
1g protein per pound of bodyweight per day, mostly from meat and dairy
in 2 weeks you will feel so much better
Pretty sure it is 1g per kg of body weight for maintenance, more for if you want to bundle muscle.
Not disagreeing with your main point, however.
So a 200lb man should eat 200 grams of protein a day? That's a lot of protein, it's hard to hit that target even if you are actively trying all day
Also you can't even metabolize more than 40 grams in an hour so you're talking about 5 full meals a day
The research on the amount of metabolized protein and its utility is a bit muddy. Purely in terms of muscle growth you are probably right. However protein/amino acids is the building blocks of pretty much everything and also is used in every system of your body. My understanding of the current research is that even if the protein isn't used for muscle growth always having enough available just makes your body work better in every aspect. In the worst case that protein is burned for energy which just makes it more expensive calories. Anecdotally I just feel healthier, stronger, and less fragile despite not changing my exercise habits.
I'm approximately 200 and have been on 200g of protein for the last 40 days and while it is an adjustment but it isn't hard if you are willing to plan ahead.
It gets a bit harder and more expensive if you are on calorie restriction, if you aren't then you have many options. Also gets somewhat harder, and more expensive, if you are can't do dairy as the lowfat/fat free yogurt, milk, and cottage cheese are lowcal and cheap protein sources.
A slice of costco cheese pizza has 30g of protein but you don't want to get your daily protein from that exclusively unless you are a lineman or laborer.
My standard meals are protein shake w/ milk for breakfast, a pile of meat (pork chicken or canned tuna) and beans for lunch, then a salad with some added meat for dinner.
You cook up 2 pounds of chicken or pork twice a week, then have your occasional more costly meats like steak and salmon once a week or every other week. Supplement with canned tuna, canned salmon, for variety and convenience. Greek yogurt or cottage cheese with flavored protein powder makes for a desert if you feel the need.
I started the diet on a lower than recommended calorie count for my weight and activity and have been dropping it weekly and haven't felt hungry after the first week. If anything I have to force myself to eat enough to meet my nutrition goals despite theoretical daily calorie deficit of about 500 currently.
I know not everyone is autistic enough to log every calorie but the basic advice of "more protein" is sound no matter what your current diet is.
I had a whole reply long typed up when my phone died, I will get back to you. Long story short is, I am a patchwork of drunk fighting wounds from my (not yet vegan) youth and find building muscle difficult with so many torn joints. Also I eat mostly rice/beans/corn/peas or cereal & peanut butter.
In another comment chain we are discussing the relative difficulty of even eating this much food, you'd have to eat like it's your job. Only a small minority of disciplined people would even think to do it.
3 easy steps to turn this back in her face and watch her recoil in horror.
Ask why halal beef is such a bad thing.
There are no other steps, just bring in any group she knows you can't openly criticise as she's trying to do here do the obvious demographic.
Why do you hate kosher, are you antisemitic? Are jews not allowed to freely practice their religion?
That will get her good
Yup. Any pet group works, although some pet groups work more than others, despite the irony of that statement.
lol, "work". As if for some of them.
More meat and natural foods means a healthier body which means more testosterone. Which also means harder to control and instill fear in.
there is no such thing as "toxic masculinity", and eating meat is why we are humans in the first place.
I understand birth control has made women more retarded than usual, but if women were actually attracted to skinny-fat soylems, all men would be doing it. You're not going to change millions of years of evolutionary firmware just because it's Current Year™.
Eat more red meat.
The WSJ and the Wapo are just the cia public messaging/narrative distribution channels.
You know how else appreciates virility? Women. Real Women.
The people who don't listen to us don't do as we say, article number XFG32K
The entire anti-meat thing can be summed up as " my giant soldiers get their (literal) pound of flesh, and you peasants get no real protein so that your children grow up weak and small."
I'll agree the meat fad amongst the right is probably 60% LARPing but one little steak a month is insane.
Hmm, This will clash with cannibal factions, she need to convince them in person.
The New York Post is also infested with feminists. All MSM are major hubs of feminist ideology.
What's with ConPro sending all their tarded trolls over here?
Conpro bans them, DoM does not.