Girlboss action heroes like that chick from Atomic Blonde or Galadriel from Rings of Power are obviously metaphors for women's capability in white collar email work. The point is that women are getting top billing in male-dominated genres of fiction, not that women should compete with men at the Olympics. However, as much as people pretend otherwise when convenient, the action genre retains a certain utility to real life, and when it begins to stray too far from that anchor, audiences don't turn up. This is partly why current Marvel offerings attract a minuscule fraction of the attention given to a now-40+ year old show, Dragon Ball Z, despite both properties involving superhuman feats. Simply put, it's more credible on a subconscious level for an incredibly shredded dude to throw someone through a building than a 110 lb woman doing the same.
I just watched this review of Damsel, the latest fantasy action trash (Reaper's youtube channel is great though), in which Millie Bobby Brown slays dragons that 10 knights can't beat, and it made me think: if reality can be distorted to the point that a non-zero percentage of the population thinks that men can turn into women, what else can be programmed? Is it possible that women now believe to some extent that they can physically compete with men?
I would actually love if this were the case, but the likely answer is that the overwhelming majority of them do not. Physical strength, even in our tech-addled culture, is still so fundamental to human existence that it's inescapable. It's one thing to lie that your surgical wound is a vagina, because nobody wants to see it, but day 1 of high school gym class makes the male-female disparity extremely clear, and the more athletic the woman is, that disparity becomes even clearer to her.
To the extent the delusion exists, it goes something like this: unathletic women cite some extreme on the internet to "prove" they have just as much potential as men, even though they personally have no intention to lift a finger. For example, elite female powerlifters are stronger than a lot of men who lift. Elite BJJ girls can handle a lot of dudes off the street if they don't know how to wrestle. When you compare them against the prototypical soyboy, this is obviously the case.
The closest that women have come to believing they are equal with men, that I know of, is the debate over women being allowed in the infantry, and I think this is because the outlier argument is in full force. The thinking is that the most athletic, cream of the crop women could ruck march with the boys, and this is - actually somewhat true for about one in a million women. Of course it ignores practical concerns like the rate of injury, sexual interaction, the political lowering of standards, and many other things we have been over ad nauseum, but in that narrow band of details, it is true that a few women are capable of meeting a baseline male standard. Still, the pivot to white males in Army recruitment ads, or the fact that Selective Service has not been extended to women, show that most women do understand they cannot physically compete.
But maybe under the immense weight of our current propaganda, there are now some girls out there who think they can take their partner in a fight or wrestle a hog or something. That would make for some great entertainment in our dystopia.
Women don't watch girlboss action movies. They just bitch about men not paying to watch them. See the box office returns and demographics of who went to The Marvels and Madam Web.
Women (who are into action movies) want and will pay for the same things men want, which are action movies with ripped Chads saving damsels in distress. They just won't say as much because it isn't politically correct. The money still talks though, and is why Reacher was a hit, and Rings of Power was a flop.
Hollywood can accept this, or they can collapse into irrelevance. The gaming industry is starting to learn this hard lesson too.
Yeah it's for the diversity hire writers and directors to make themselves feel stronger. Pushing their will onto everybody else, and trying to turn the ideal into themselves. This is why so many of them are just self inserts.
I've seen some discussions (but have no links, sorry) about girls wrestling with their boyfriends. Apparently there has been more than one case where for whatever reason, the guy stopped going easy and absolutely shocked their girlfriends. One that I'm half-remembering even caused some kind of relationship drama over it.
I’ve seen similar posts scattered here and there from women who’ve been reality checked like that. Sometimes they go something like “DAE feel depressed and vulnerable knowing that almost any man can physically overpower you at any time?”
The fuck do they want? Alter our genetics so we are weak and feeble?
Actually yes that is what many of them want
Well some of them want to reduce the male population by 90%.
Funnily enough the lesbian cunt who proposed that in "The Future (If There Is One) Is Female" is being given cover by wiki editors because it's an inconvenient truth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sally_Miller_Gearhart
Fuck Sally Gearhart and the commie scum Wikipedia editors who are complicit in whitewashing her misandry.
Guys encounter this early with their dads or a male family member who's their role model so to instuct guys to know their own strengths and how to manage it.
Girls have been absent from that instruction for decades. Usually having the father administer corporal punishment when they went too far humbled a lot of girls to know there is a BIG power difference between men and women.
It's also why boys raised by single mothers end up as human waste. Teenage boys quickly realize they can overpower their moms, and no amount of yelling or slapping will deter them from doing whatever they want.
Zoo animals cannot contain other zoo animals. Shocking!
Happened to me with both my mom (prison employee) and college gf (amateur martial artist). Turns out that when you tell the guy who bench presses more than your weight that he can go all-out (after saying that you can take him 1v1), even if he doesn't go all-out, the end result is... humbling.
Happened to me sort of.
I don't recall how it came up, but my girlfriend didn't think I could restrain her. I asked if she really wanted test her theory and she agreed.
I easily held her down and she was legit mad the rest of the day.
Probably this one. Yeah, those are always fun to read.
One personal instance that sticks in my head was when I was sparring with one of my fellow students in the dojo I'm at, and she described getting blocked as 'hitting a tree'.
...I really, really didn't have the heart to tell her that I was deliberately over-extending to actually block her attack, so it wasn't as strong as it would be normally.
Testosterone. Hell of a drug.
Yep, that's the one. It's pReddit, but even besides the OP, that thread is full of what I'm talking about.
Not even testosterone. It’s called the little extra Y chromosome that makes the difference.
You’re not gonna see a manlet shooting testosterone that gets anywhere close to the average male strength.
Here’s the harsh reality- women are hilariously violent creatures, they’re just physical chihuahuas. 80% of DV is initiated by women, the only reason we have the Duluth model is because women would be filling up jails for the amount of physical assault they commit. The female fighter trope is just as redundant, you have the pit the top .1% of women against the lowest testosterone men in human history to make women seem tough. You take that top .1% against the top 20-30% of men and no amount of judo or bjj is going to get a 125 pound woman to beat up a 230 pound male with high school wrestling level training.
Women and soys were very upset when loads of men said that Rhonda Rousey couldn't beat them in a fight.
Firstly, Rhonda has exactly one move and that's an arm bar. She was real clever with it, getting flying leaps into arm bars and doing practically anything to get herself into position for it.
But brother, if you're even semi physically fit male, you ou can stand up with her hanging onto you and body slam her into early retirement. You don't have to be a martial artist to simply be too strong to let her get the clinch on the bar, or to again straight up refuse to be held down and simply slam her into the mat until she lets go.
It wasn't just soys. Joe fucking Rogan claimed that Ronda could beat Mayweather. For some weird reason, there's a lot of simping in martial arts, both in the legit and the bullshit ones alike.
Joe Rogan was absolutely infatuated with her.
I mean, even without that, he's one of the most gullible people I've ever seen.
He's extremely prone to exaggeration and bursts of excitement where he says stupid shit (and that's why he works well as a color commentator for the UFC).
That's why any time a fighter remotely looks like he's attempting a submission he'll shout something like "it's in! It's in deep!".
He can be simultaneously based one moment and then just say the absolute dumbest shit you’ve ever heard in your life in the same podcast.
Shit, I’ve been seeing my local chiropractor for years and it made me legitimately sad when he said on that one episode that Chiropractors are killers. Like wtf? I’ve legitimately had my life changed for the better by my chiro and Joe shoves in a half-baked retarded take with zero reasoning.
Unfortunately there are a lot of quacks out there that make ridiculous claims and do dangerous corrections.
Yeah kind of, if you aren't trained then I'd say you would need to be fairly strong to give Ronda trouble, like a good high school athlete type of strong. You wouldn't bodyslam her, she'd go to the ground first if she got in danger, but it would just be hard for her to move your mass. I train regularly so I'm not theorizing, at least too much.
Sidenote, Ronda's rivalry with Miesha Tate is still the peak of women's MMA. Both of them were actually hot at the time, like not just for the sport.
Yeah a lot of people don’t understand that grappling is all about position and doesn’t really discriminate between sex. Rhonda isn’t used to not being the toughest one in the octagon though so who knows, but I’ve seen many times in BJJ where a guy and a girl in similar weight classes and the girl struggles hard because the guy can usually overpower themselves out of a bad grappling position whereas the girl has to be very technical and hit the right takedowns
The Marvels, something specifically geared to "female empowerment," had godawful viewing numbers (for its budget) at the box office, and was STILL majority male-viewed.
THEY DO NOT CONSUME THE MEDIA THEY DEMAND.
it's not even woman demanding this media per se. it's unironically college de-educated social justice warriors.
Not sure about the movies themselves but, yes, women are buying into the propaganda as a whole. Plenty of women nowadays actually believe they're as strong as men, for example.
Have you ever ran into one of those? Personally I haven't
In general, women acknowledge the fact that men are stronger than them, but severely underestimate the gap. Most believe that they are about as strong as men their size and would think you were spouting misogynist nonsense if you mentioned the fact that 13-14 year old boys are about as strong as adult women.
A fact that a lot of people are unaware about is that there's little difference between a 13-14 year old boy, an adult woman and a 13-14 year old girl: https://i.ibb.co/5GH7Pdj/malefemalestrengthcomparison2.jpg
That's why men hitting women is such a slime thing to do.
Mostly online, doesn't come up much IRL. I've met men who at least claim women are as strong, though. Which is even more retarded.
Simps gonna simp. They will get a crumb of pussy from m'lady any day now.
Yeah I've seen men who claim that, Adam from Adam Knows Everything being the prime example. But it's always a couch potato. You can get "alpha male" guys to shill for a lot of stuff, but shilling for something like "women are physically equal" is so retarded I don't think any of them can do it.
The leap that most men refuse to make is that since the brain is a physical organ and dependent on lung capacity/blood oxygenation, metabolism, nervous system engagement and everything else that makes men physically superior, it makes sense that men are also mentally superior.
Even discounting the sexual dimorphism size differences, the male reproductive system is biologically cheap while the female system is expensive. Something has to be sacrificed to pay for it.
They always trot out the idea that female muscle tissue is the same quality as male muscle tissue.
They hem and haw when you point out that the "quality" isn't the difference, it's the quantity. Pound for pound it's "the same" but men have significantly more of it.
Pound for pound doesn't matter either, men have stronger ligaments and denser bones.
It's not even the same, Women don't recruit muscle mass as efficiently as Men.
Women just aren't as efficient as men. Full stop.
Barbie did the opposite of female empowerment and it was a great hit. Women demand girl bosses but they do not want them. Female empowerment would imply they are responsible for their own failings and it is up to them to change, that is like garlic to a vampire for 35+ no kids, average corpo job, cat ladies
they really believe that they are both "strong and independent" at the same time permanent victims who can't be blamed for any consequences of their decisions
it is this doublethink that makes women unqualified to be in any kind of position of authority
I've had this discussion with Girlfriends decades ago.
They already thought they can/could, they didn't need action movies to think this.
"Girlboss" shit will definitely have negative effects on writing women as non-woke writers will want to distance themselves from anything that resembles that crap so their characters will not resemble mary sues.
Gunpowder Milkshake was a fun movie.