Half the top posts are about how the government is screwing us to give Israel money, another quarter is saying the US planned the attack as a distraction and the rest are either saying Biden is going to screw it up, or mocking Republicans who are saying "it's an attack on America"
25% of the Israelis not having access to the Internet for the past 48 hours has resulted a noticeable improvement in forum and chan usability. Almost makes one think.
P.win cycles back and forth as the mod team censors and bans users to keep control of the narrative. Often there will be huge purges of noticers and nuked threads akin to reddit.
But just like here you can ban a noticer but more and more people see the scam for what it is.
The truth cannot be destroyed. We must all seek truth.
Not surprising. You can't take a side without either criticizing Jews or goat fuckers, both of which are considering sacred classes by the tranny fucking faggot running the place.
It seems like the maliciously retarded post-WWII two-state solution never enters the conversation whenever this country is in the news. I'd rather America give Israel permission to shake an unconditional out of the Gaza strip, and America sever all foreign aid and military alliances in the region. I'm undecided if the whole ordeal is manufactured or sheer incompetence from the 20th-century establishment.
I would feel worse if those jews weren't establishing settlements and forcing Palestinians out. They are zionists to the core, these are not jews with a sense of respect towards others. They are Jewish supremacists that think it's okay to spit on Christians and Muslims because they are chosen.
I don't want to send over money or men, but I couldn't care less about forcing "Palestinians" out. The Ottomans lost WW1, they lost some land, tough crap. They are Arabs, Ottomans, not "Palestinians."
There is so much space in all the surrounding Arab countries, the only real reason they fight is because Muslims believe any land they conquer is forever theirs. It isn't about "homeland" or displacement or any of the other crap that gets spouted, these are basically the same people flooding Europe for free stuff, they clearly don't have a deep love and connection to land in the Middle East. No, it is because they see anyone else taking that land as a loss for allah.
I agree we shouldnt be involved. Not our monkeys, not our circus.
However I don't really agree with your point about that palestinians should just leave. Many are committed enough to fight and die for their cause/land. Palestine has been there for some time and the people have a deep connection to the land going back into recorded history.
Arabs aren't all alike either. Saying they can move to neighboring lands doesn't mean anything to someone who's home is being wrecked currently.
In reality, might makes right when it comes to land disputes because that's really the only thing it boils down to. Look at modern turkey, Istanbul was conquered and taken from the Greeks but nobody is seriously demanding they return it and go back to the steppes.
I am getting real goddamn sick of those degenerate faggots trying to sidle up to any actual conservative / right wing group and slide it towards authoritarian leftism.
One fucking retard here made a post unironically saying he's a nazi because leftists told him he was a nazi and he decided that must mean he actually is one, completely BAFFLED at the idea that anyone actually on the right would disagree with that.
They are cultural suicide bombers. They are here to explicitly detonate any populist, conservative, or libertarian effort at all costs. They will support Leftwing ideology and framing 100% of the time, and then condemn you for not keeping the Leftist framing.
They did the same shit with Kanye. These NatSocs fucking hate homosexual degenerates, black people, and Zion Don. But when when Kanye started spouting crazy shit, they stood here and cheered it on. When it became apparent that the whole thing was a fucking stunt to blow up Trump and the dissident right, they still cheered and claimed it was all worth it because fuck Trump.
If you want to be an actual far-right Rightoid, take a page from Julius Evola and recognize the Friend-Enemy distinction at play. In 50 years, the White Nationalist and National Socialist movements have made zero hedway against the political Left, and most of their recruits come from the political left.
Most of their own genuine advocates said they found a surge in growth from Bernie Bros being racialized, not Trump supporters; but they'll stand here and tell you they were all former Ron Paul Libertarians... because they are pushing the "Libertarian Fascism" angle that the Left pushes. Meanwhile, Richard Spencer has been pushing to vote for Joe Biden because he correctly recognizes racialism is a Leftwing movement, and it is very easy to subvert "White Affinity Groups" into something he can weaponize for White Nationalism.
There is no serious major war between Israel and Iran possible considering the distances at play, beyond the low kinetic war they've have for 30 years.
And no, Iran and Israel are mostly staying out of Syrian. Islamist factions actually attacked Hezbollah several years ago and got very badly fucked up for it (mostly because the Saudis thought it would be a good idea to hurl their pawns at an Iranian trained force). At this point, it's mostly just Assad trying to maintain control and rebuild what he lost. Iran isn't to interested in a Sunni regime that can't really do anything for them, just as long as they don't suddenly ally with the Saudis.
It's quite sad to me. The Trump supporters want to believe they're some third political position that has America's interests at heart but supporting Israel is not in America's interest at all.
It's probably because it speaks to their current plight: advanced civilisation under assault by barbarians raping and pillaging
Israel is the only country in the region that isn't saying 'death to America!' everyday but the BIG reason why America needs to support Israel is if Israel falls (doubtful) or another nation fills the void if America doesn't do anything (China might leap at the chance), US loses it's last foothold in an OIL RICH region which puts the petrodollar at risk and if that fails, America can kiss it's economy goodbye.
They say death to America all the time. They make movies and media demonizing us, they spit on Christians just as they do Muslims. They suck reparations money out of Germany 80 years later.
They equally oppose religions they are competing against?
They suck reparations money out of Germany 80 years later
The Muslims do to, it's just the eat in while the Jewish get takeaway
They make movies and media demonizing us,
You sure that's just the Jewish from Israel not the commies, the pedos execs in Hollywood, the CIA, the establishment in government, left wing nutcases, guys who think all problems can be solved by hugs.....
In terms of enemies, the west has WAY MORE internal enemies it fucking invites into it's territory than Israel. The only positive is with Israel they might have the fight localised in their area than in a western subway station...
Nah it's not just the jews in Israel... you just listed off all the other places they occupy power in OUR countries as well. Thank you for pointing that out. And yes that includes the CIA with deputy director ((cohen)) or the director of national intelligence ((Avril haines))? Or the previous head, ((Blinken)) who came before her? Those people?
No listen, if you reduce everything into a simple equation of "da jooz bad", then you can be dragged along to believe whatever else the Socialist Revolution needs.
"No, sorry, we need open borders because that will own the jooz. Don't ask why, or how that makes sense. You're not a joo are you?"
You can literally see Ireland, Scotland, and Wales going through the same shit because their hatred of England has been exploited. "Yes, to show those English how much better we are, we must demographically replace the Irish from Ireland. That's what a true Irish Nationalist believes!"
Pretty much, it's why I have a healthy amount of paranoia about EVERYONE till proven otherwise.
Previous ex's also taught me to double that trial period for women as men with ill intentions usually act a lot quicker, some chicks play the LONG game..
One of the most stupid things we've seen the Biden admin do is something far more dangerous than pissing of the Israelis. He pissed off the Saudis. Considering the state of the peterodollar, that is wildly dangerous to push them towards BRICS. We are losing more friends in MENA than Bush or Obama did, and that's really saying something.
Now, my thing is, we shouldn't be depending on MENA for oil, but Joe Biden wants (seemingly more than anything) to utterly destroy the US's internal energy infrastructure, and make us dependent on people who really will hate us.
The rise in interest rates is not accidental. The Saudis cut oil supply and there is an additional diesel shortage, so he's increasing the USD's purchasing power by driving up interest rates. This hurts the Saudis (and everyone else on the USD) who are exchanging their currency for ours, in order to sell us goods. This is a currency war maneuver that could end up blowing up in our face and harming the dollar in the long run.
Combine this and the collapse of our weapons stockpiles (sent to Ukraine), our unmanageable budget (we won't be making interest payments), and our route from Afghanistan showing wild amounts of military weakness... and all of the sudden you realize that the Biden regime, despite being the design of the Globalist elite, has been the most damaging administration for the US's geo-politics ever.
I literally can't think of a president who's worsened America's geo-political position, and it's not fucking close. Even if you were a Globalist and wanted to say "Trump" (which is wildly false by our demonstrable effectiveness with NK, Saud, Iran, Ukraine, and others); the damage he did to international globalist relationships is still less than what Biden did.
How far do we have to go back to see geo-political failures like this, the War of 1812?
The only person I might say was worse is Woodrow Wilson since his presence as president ENABLED the current Biden Administration, communists and South America instability to happen. 1812 was the one between America and British (since technically Canada didn't exist then) was more a tale of fuck around and found out and it was only because Nepoleonic wars happened at the same time that everything didn't burn.
My argument that it's not Woodrow Wilson is that the US was so powerful it basically set the world order. It was misused, but the US absolutely had that power.
In the War of 1812, the US was already in a weak position geo-politically as the Federalists and Hamilton basically solidified their power, and without a significant army or navy, tried to conquer Canada. While the complaint about impressment was valid, the British counter of: "You don't even know what a US Citizen is", happens to also be valid. None of that justifies invading Canada, which is why multiple states refused to contribute to the war, and several nearly seceded. One of the first things the US Army did, was suppress a vote by one of the New England states' legislatures against the war. The city of Baltimore was in open rebellion (the city that's just a few miles from DC). The oppression didn't stop those states from using soft-power to oppose the war by refusing to send troops or taxes.
This was followed up by: the only loss of continental US territory to a foreign army in The Siege of Fort Detroit, the invasion of Louisiana, the collapse of Indian relations in the west, the burning of the US Capitol, and three failed invasions of Canada. Even then, as a result of the war, the US Navy and US Army became significantly more competent and professional.
The idea of a standing army was very anathema to alot of the Founding Fathers, and up until the war of 1812 there was a prevalent mythology that the Revolutionary War was won by local militia standing up against the British. (Realistically, it's an idea still prevalent to this day.)
The idea of a standing, professional military eliete would have caused several of the Founding Fathers to absolute loose thier goddamn shit. But, sadly, reality prevailed, and both the war of 1812 and later on the Mexican-American war proved the need for a cadre of trained, professional soldiers and leaders.
Interesting to consider that if the US hadn't tried to invade Canada, the Civil War would have ended up very different.
There's some value to the idea of rejecting a standing army and having a militia, but realistically you'll need some kind of standing military for modern war.
The War of 1812 didn't really prove the need for regular units. Hell, the regulars (the American Legion) were being commanded by Life-long military commanders who had been in a uniform since the Revolutionary War... and they lead the US Army into catastrophe, multiple times. The Continental Army was vastly superior to the US Army in fighting experience and leadership capability (and that's really saying something). The "Legion Of The United States" was different but was intentionally designed to be elite infantry from the very beginning. They were almost exclusively the only competent infantry units on the American side in the war.
The militia are supposed to be defensive in nature, and are to be trained by the states. Principally, there's no reason to send a militia to fight in a foreign land, which is why we had not only a land militia, but a naval one too. Mexico and Canada didn't show the value of a standing army, they showed the value of a standing army for imperial expansion, which is why we wanted only a militia.
The naval militia did even better than the US Navy, even though they had the USS Constitution and USS Congress.
Interesting to consider that if the US hadn't tried to invade Canada, the Civil War would have ended up very different.
I don't see how, the British were never going to give up Canada without a fight, and when Lincoln started threatening the British, they sent 30,000 troops to Canada.
It's been a while since I've done my classes on military history, but IIRC, post 1812 is when you saw the development of dedicated military academies that would actively train for military leadership.
All the who's-who of the Civil War on both sides were cut from that cloth. No 1812, and you'd probably get a much different environment in terms of military leadership.
Could be wrong, though. This is mostly my musings off the cuff.
That's possible. Though, West Point already existed before the war. Not sure how many other major training facilities would have already been built anyway.
Except Tesla, because that’s run by an evil Billionaire that allows far right individuals to to gain attention and blah blah blah...
I think it's a given by saying this, but the establishment is retarded, they've been retarded since 2016 when Trump added them to the [mind break] tag. Before that they were just cold and calculating. The electric car push ONLY makes sense if backed by an extensive Nuclear power infrastructure. NOTHING since Biden made sense. When this shit first kicked off there was a message from the white House calling on restraint from Israel in response to the attacks.
That got quickly deleted making me think someone higher up the food chain slapped one of the Biden staffers knowing that they need a foothold in the region since they pissed EVERYONE else off in the past 3 years.
The Iranian government chants "Death to America!" and got their head of black ops splatted for attacking an American embassy. Do you really hate Israel so much that you support America's enemies just to spite them?
Iranians had to suffer regime change and constant ZOG aggression. If ZOG didn't control and direct us to be antagonistic towards Iran we probably wouldn't have this conflict. Instead the CIA and the bankers thought they could fuck around in Iran and they found out.
I don't blame Iran. I am sad that I am associated with the demons that think we can hop around the world shitting in other people's homes and act surprised when they get angry.
The only reason Israel isn't counted among this label is because we spend absurd amounts of money basically bribing them into liking us, only to get dismissive "tolerated" status.
If we cut even a fraction of their funding, they'd be screaming how antisemitic we are while also saying Death to America and trying to leverage all our other allies to bully us into crawling back.
That's what this conflict is. Its picking which enemy to support, whether from an abusive parasitic relationship or a bunch of retarded goatfuckers.
If you can get everyone to blindingly hate one and only one group, you can use rhetoric to get whatever you want. Especially if you play "Six Degrees From Kevin Bacon Any Random Jew".
"Opposition to abortion is actually a jewish conspiracy to destroy white people. Larry Elder opposes abortion, and his neighbor's 3rd cousin is 1/8th jewish. Therefore, this is a proven zionist agenda."
Conservatives switching from "no more money for foreign countries' wars!" to "$8 billion for Israel's war!" in 3...2...
But Judeo-christian values!!!!!! Aka Judeos rule us and Christians produce the value for them. Don't you dare criticize our greatest ally. Lol
AreYouSureAboutThat.mp4
Half the top posts are about how the government is screwing us to give Israel money, another quarter is saying the US planned the attack as a distraction and the rest are either saying Biden is going to screw it up, or mocking Republicans who are saying "it's an attack on America"
25% of the Israelis not having access to the Internet for the past 48 hours has resulted a noticeable improvement in forum and chan usability. Almost makes one think.
Or, maybe, you're delusional and the forum is much more divided than you pretend.
Yeah I dunno wtf OP is talking about
P.win cycles back and forth as the mod team censors and bans users to keep control of the narrative. Often there will be huge purges of noticers and nuked threads akin to reddit.
But just like here you can ban a noticer but more and more people see the scam for what it is.
The truth cannot be destroyed. We must all seek truth.
The mods there should just fight amongst themselves instead of schizo stickying like some kind of proxy war
Since when have you ever done that?
America first. Let other countries take care of their own shit.
Reddit has banned almost all discussion on the israel/palestine conflict
Not surprising. You can't take a side without either criticizing Jews or goat fuckers, both of which are considering sacred classes by the tranny fucking faggot running the place.
Instead you can post more threads about how white Americans are evil and must be replaced.
What about wishing well to both sides' efforts to successfully eliminate their enemies as long as I don't have to pay for any of it?
I'd be happy if both sides wiped each other out
I'd be sad for the loss of all the Persian culture. Iran (home of the Aryans) has for a long time been a beacon of high civilization.
Shame how they all went extinct in the middle ages, though.
It seems like the maliciously retarded post-WWII two-state solution never enters the conversation whenever this country is in the news. I'd rather America give Israel permission to shake an unconditional out of the Gaza strip, and America sever all foreign aid and military alliances in the region. I'm undecided if the whole ordeal is manufactured or sheer incompetence from the 20th-century establishment.
Most of us hate fundie islam so we'd rather laugh about the incoming dead terrorists than jerk off over dead civvies just because they're jews.
I would feel worse if those jews weren't establishing settlements and forcing Palestinians out. They are zionists to the core, these are not jews with a sense of respect towards others. They are Jewish supremacists that think it's okay to spit on Christians and Muslims because they are chosen.
That's a lot of words to just say jews
Haha basically
No Jew has that. Their holy book the Talmud literally says goyim are cattle to be used and abused.
I don't want to send over money or men, but I couldn't care less about forcing "Palestinians" out. The Ottomans lost WW1, they lost some land, tough crap. They are Arabs, Ottomans, not "Palestinians."
There is so much space in all the surrounding Arab countries, the only real reason they fight is because Muslims believe any land they conquer is forever theirs. It isn't about "homeland" or displacement or any of the other crap that gets spouted, these are basically the same people flooding Europe for free stuff, they clearly don't have a deep love and connection to land in the Middle East. No, it is because they see anyone else taking that land as a loss for allah.
I agree we shouldnt be involved. Not our monkeys, not our circus.
However I don't really agree with your point about that palestinians should just leave. Many are committed enough to fight and die for their cause/land. Palestine has been there for some time and the people have a deep connection to the land going back into recorded history.
Arabs aren't all alike either. Saying they can move to neighboring lands doesn't mean anything to someone who's home is being wrecked currently.
In reality, might makes right when it comes to land disputes because that's really the only thing it boils down to. Look at modern turkey, Istanbul was conquered and taken from the Greeks but nobody is seriously demanding they return it and go back to the steppes.
Most of us, but then the Stormfags show us and remind us that it is honorable and diligent to defend international Socialism because joo man bad.
They'll laugh at white Christian children being used as sex slaves, as long as they can post memes about (((jews))).
I am getting real goddamn sick of those degenerate faggots trying to sidle up to any actual conservative / right wing group and slide it towards authoritarian leftism.
One fucking retard here made a post unironically saying he's a nazi because leftists told him he was a nazi and he decided that must mean he actually is one, completely BAFFLED at the idea that anyone actually on the right would disagree with that.
Yes. That's them.
They are cultural suicide bombers. They are here to explicitly detonate any populist, conservative, or libertarian effort at all costs. They will support Leftwing ideology and framing 100% of the time, and then condemn you for not keeping the Leftist framing.
They did the same shit with Kanye. These NatSocs fucking hate homosexual degenerates, black people, and Zion Don. But when when Kanye started spouting crazy shit, they stood here and cheered it on. When it became apparent that the whole thing was a fucking stunt to blow up Trump and the dissident right, they still cheered and claimed it was all worth it because fuck Trump.
If you want to be an actual far-right Rightoid, take a page from Julius Evola and recognize the Friend-Enemy distinction at play. In 50 years, the White Nationalist and National Socialist movements have made zero hedway against the political Left, and most of their recruits come from the political left.
Most of their own genuine advocates said they found a surge in growth from Bernie Bros being racialized, not Trump supporters; but they'll stand here and tell you they were all former Ron Paul Libertarians... because they are pushing the "Libertarian Fascism" angle that the Left pushes. Meanwhile, Richard Spencer has been pushing to vote for Joe Biden because he correctly recognizes racialism is a Leftwing movement, and it is very easy to subvert "White Affinity Groups" into something he can weaponize for White Nationalism.
Goddamn right.
Wehraboo goons are midwit leftists who have seen a single glimpse beyond the curtain of bullshit and utterly refused to learn.
Israel and Iran aren't going to have a war. Iran's busy fighting the Saudis in Yemen.
They are already having a war with Israel by proxy in Syria but okay. I guess you've never heard of multiple theaters of war.
Normies are far more interested in movie theaters than war theaters.
Sit down storm faggot.
There is no serious major war between Israel and Iran possible considering the distances at play, beyond the low kinetic war they've have for 30 years.
And no, Iran and Israel are mostly staying out of Syrian. Islamist factions actually attacked Hezbollah several years ago and got very badly fucked up for it (mostly because the Saudis thought it would be a good idea to hurl their pawns at an Iranian trained force). At this point, it's mostly just Assad trying to maintain control and rebuild what he lost. Iran isn't to interested in a Sunni regime that can't really do anything for them, just as long as they don't suddenly ally with the Saudis.
You have Stockholm syndrome lol
Look at the rules on the sidebar of (((TDW))). Furthermore, the top mod is the admin of this platform.
It's quite sad to me. The Trump supporters want to believe they're some third political position that has America's interests at heart but supporting Israel is not in America's interest at all.
Be patient with the normiecons. 3/4 of a century of indoctrination and a total cultural hegemony is tough to overcome.
They will keep running into the walls that the gatekeepers put up and eventually some of them will want a peek of the other side.
I put that on bots with mods looking the other way.
Clicking on the threads show a high vote versus comment percentage, and all comments have the same stylography.
Mostly what on Israel?
It's probably because it speaks to their current plight: advanced civilisation under assault by barbarians raping and pillaging
Israel is the only country in the region that isn't saying 'death to America!' everyday but the BIG reason why America needs to support Israel is if Israel falls (doubtful) or another nation fills the void if America doesn't do anything (China might leap at the chance), US loses it's last foothold in an OIL RICH region which puts the petrodollar at risk and if that fails, America can kiss it's economy goodbye.
they are not saying "death to America" because they already own America
Tell me its a coincidence that Trumps children, Biden's children, Hilary's child are all married to jews. And Kamala Harris is married to one also
They say death to America all the time. They make movies and media demonizing us, they spit on Christians just as they do Muslims. They suck reparations money out of Germany 80 years later.
Sir, wake up. These people are not your friend.
They equally oppose religions they are competing against?
The Muslims do to, it's just the eat in while the Jewish get takeaway
You sure that's just the Jewish from Israel not the commies, the pedos execs in Hollywood, the CIA, the establishment in government, left wing nutcases, guys who think all problems can be solved by hugs.....
In terms of enemies, the west has WAY MORE internal enemies it fucking invites into it's territory than Israel. The only positive is with Israel they might have the fight localised in their area than in a western subway station...
Nah it's not just the jews in Israel... you just listed off all the other places they occupy power in OUR countries as well. Thank you for pointing that out. And yes that includes the CIA with deputy director ((cohen)) or the director of national intelligence ((Avril haines))? Or the previous head, ((Blinken)) who came before her? Those people?
No listen, if you reduce everything into a simple equation of "da jooz bad", then you can be dragged along to believe whatever else the Socialist Revolution needs.
"No, sorry, we need open borders because that will own the jooz. Don't ask why, or how that makes sense. You're not a joo are you?"
You can literally see Ireland, Scotland, and Wales going through the same shit because their hatred of England has been exploited. "Yes, to show those English how much better we are, we must demographically replace the Irish from Ireland. That's what a true Irish Nationalist believes!"
Pretty much, it's why I have a healthy amount of paranoia about EVERYONE till proven otherwise.
Previous ex's also taught me to double that trial period for women as men with ill intentions usually act a lot quicker, some chicks play the LONG game..
No argument there.
No, Conservatives have always been this way. It's part of why Conservatism is a losing brand.
One of the most stupid things we've seen the Biden admin do is something far more dangerous than pissing of the Israelis. He pissed off the Saudis. Considering the state of the peterodollar, that is wildly dangerous to push them towards BRICS. We are losing more friends in MENA than Bush or Obama did, and that's really saying something.
Now, my thing is, we shouldn't be depending on MENA for oil, but Joe Biden wants (seemingly more than anything) to utterly destroy the US's internal energy infrastructure, and make us dependent on people who really will hate us.
The rise in interest rates is not accidental. The Saudis cut oil supply and there is an additional diesel shortage, so he's increasing the USD's purchasing power by driving up interest rates. This hurts the Saudis (and everyone else on the USD) who are exchanging their currency for ours, in order to sell us goods. This is a currency war maneuver that could end up blowing up in our face and harming the dollar in the long run.
Combine this and the collapse of our weapons stockpiles (sent to Ukraine), our unmanageable budget (we won't be making interest payments), and our route from Afghanistan showing wild amounts of military weakness... and all of the sudden you realize that the Biden regime, despite being the design of the Globalist elite, has been the most damaging administration for the US's geo-politics ever.
I literally can't think of a president who's worsened America's geo-political position, and it's not fucking close. Even if you were a Globalist and wanted to say "Trump" (which is wildly false by our demonstrable effectiveness with NK, Saud, Iran, Ukraine, and others); the damage he did to international globalist relationships is still less than what Biden did.
How far do we have to go back to see geo-political failures like this, the War of 1812?
The only person I might say was worse is Woodrow Wilson since his presence as president ENABLED the current Biden Administration, communists and South America instability to happen. 1812 was the one between America and British (since technically Canada didn't exist then) was more a tale of fuck around and found out and it was only because Nepoleonic wars happened at the same time that everything didn't burn.
My argument that it's not Woodrow Wilson is that the US was so powerful it basically set the world order. It was misused, but the US absolutely had that power.
In the War of 1812, the US was already in a weak position geo-politically as the Federalists and Hamilton basically solidified their power, and without a significant army or navy, tried to conquer Canada. While the complaint about impressment was valid, the British counter of: "You don't even know what a US Citizen is", happens to also be valid. None of that justifies invading Canada, which is why multiple states refused to contribute to the war, and several nearly seceded. One of the first things the US Army did, was suppress a vote by one of the New England states' legislatures against the war. The city of Baltimore was in open rebellion (the city that's just a few miles from DC). The oppression didn't stop those states from using soft-power to oppose the war by refusing to send troops or taxes.
This was followed up by: the only loss of continental US territory to a foreign army in The Siege of Fort Detroit, the invasion of Louisiana, the collapse of Indian relations in the west, the burning of the US Capitol, and three failed invasions of Canada. Even then, as a result of the war, the US Navy and US Army became significantly more competent and professional.
The idea of a standing army was very anathema to alot of the Founding Fathers, and up until the war of 1812 there was a prevalent mythology that the Revolutionary War was won by local militia standing up against the British. (Realistically, it's an idea still prevalent to this day.)
The idea of a standing, professional military eliete would have caused several of the Founding Fathers to absolute loose thier goddamn shit. But, sadly, reality prevailed, and both the war of 1812 and later on the Mexican-American war proved the need for a cadre of trained, professional soldiers and leaders.
Interesting to consider that if the US hadn't tried to invade Canada, the Civil War would have ended up very different.
There's some value to the idea of rejecting a standing army and having a militia, but realistically you'll need some kind of standing military for modern war.
The War of 1812 didn't really prove the need for regular units. Hell, the regulars (the American Legion) were being commanded by Life-long military commanders who had been in a uniform since the Revolutionary War... and they lead the US Army into catastrophe, multiple times. The Continental Army was vastly superior to the US Army in fighting experience and leadership capability (and that's really saying something). The "Legion Of The United States" was different but was intentionally designed to be elite infantry from the very beginning. They were almost exclusively the only competent infantry units on the American side in the war.
The militia are supposed to be defensive in nature, and are to be trained by the states. Principally, there's no reason to send a militia to fight in a foreign land, which is why we had not only a land militia, but a naval one too. Mexico and Canada didn't show the value of a standing army, they showed the value of a standing army for imperial expansion, which is why we wanted only a militia.
The naval militia did even better than the US Navy, even though they had the USS Constitution and USS Congress.
I don't see how, the British were never going to give up Canada without a fight, and when Lincoln started threatening the British, they sent 30,000 troops to Canada.
Leadership.
It's been a while since I've done my classes on military history, but IIRC, post 1812 is when you saw the development of dedicated military academies that would actively train for military leadership.
All the who's-who of the Civil War on both sides were cut from that cloth. No 1812, and you'd probably get a much different environment in terms of military leadership.
Could be wrong, though. This is mostly my musings off the cuff.
That's possible. Though, West Point already existed before the war. Not sure how many other major training facilities would have already been built anyway.
Kind of an interesting theory comes from this about the big push for electric cars.
Except Tesla, because that’s run by an evil Billionaire that allows far right individuals to to gain attention and blah blah blah...
I think it's a given by saying this, but the establishment is retarded, they've been retarded since 2016 when Trump added them to the [mind break] tag. Before that they were just cold and calculating. The electric car push ONLY makes sense if backed by an extensive Nuclear power infrastructure. NOTHING since Biden made sense. When this shit first kicked off there was a message from the white House calling on restraint from Israel in response to the attacks.
That got quickly deleted making me think someone higher up the food chain slapped one of the Biden staffers knowing that they need a foothold in the region since they pissed EVERYONE else off in the past 3 years.
The Iranian government chants "Death to America!" and got their head of black ops splatted for attacking an American embassy. Do you really hate Israel so much that you support America's enemies just to spite them?
Israel attacked US buildings in Egypt and didn't even get a slap on the wrist. At least Iran is openly our enemy.
Iranians had to suffer regime change and constant ZOG aggression. If ZOG didn't control and direct us to be antagonistic towards Iran we probably wouldn't have this conflict. Instead the CIA and the bankers thought they could fuck around in Iran and they found out.
I don't blame Iran. I am sad that I am associated with the demons that think we can hop around the world shitting in other people's homes and act surprised when they get angry.
The only reason Israel isn't counted among this label is because we spend absurd amounts of money basically bribing them into liking us, only to get dismissive "tolerated" status.
If we cut even a fraction of their funding, they'd be screaming how antisemitic we are while also saying Death to America and trying to leverage all our other allies to bully us into crawling back.
That's what this conflict is. Its picking which enemy to support, whether from an abusive parasitic relationship or a bunch of retarded goatfuckers.
Who said anything about supporting Iran? I want them all to die.
Yes.
If you can get everyone to blindingly hate one and only one group, you can use rhetoric to get whatever you want. Especially if you play "Six Degrees From
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