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What's going on with Unity? Oh... (media.communities.win)
posted 2 years ago by NPC_534523413 2 years ago by NPC_534523413 +85 / -0
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– Kaarous 56 points 2 years ago +56 / -0

Well that seems a little on the nose.

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– weezkitty 32 points 2 years ago +32 / -0

The memes write themselves

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– ghostfox1_ 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

Oy vey

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– alucard13mmfmj 35 points 2 years ago +35 / -0

locking down a thread because of what OTHER people say is kinda dumb lol. anyone can make up some semitism in the comments to get it locked.

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– WitchHunterSiegfried 40 points 2 years ago +40 / -0

Reminds me of Pornhub yelling about anti-semitism when people called them out for inflating degenerate trends despite no one talking about it, really makes you think...

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– MrGiggles 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

What do you mean by inflating degenerate trends? Have they been lying about what is the most popular searches and categories?

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– WitchHunterSiegfried 33 points 2 years ago +33 / -0

They would push shit like incest to the front page

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– Guy_Incognito76 27 points 2 years ago +27 / -0

and interracial. Can't find it anymore but I think it was an old Return of Kings article that exposed pornhub's pushing of gross fetish porn despite no interest in it.

Found it! https://theredarchive.com/blog/Return-of-Kings/the-hidden-agenda-behind-interracial-pornography.17752

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– RondoOBlongo 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Only if it's bm on ww, despite "ebony" having more demand 🤔

Source

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 28 points 2 years ago +28 / -0

I take it you that's an ad provider that's like every single other probably run by the chosen people? How's that anti semetic?

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Comment Reported for: Rule 16 - Identity Attacks

I don't see how.

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– MargarineMongoose 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

Noticing literally any pattern involving Jews is anti-semitism, haven't you been paying attention?

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– Kienan 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

haven't you been paying attention?

No, that would be antisemitic.

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– DomitiusOfMassilia 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It's not though, and hasn't been.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Badge of honor, first time I got reported on here.... I think, might have happened before and might have been similarly related.

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– -Fender- 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

Is anyone knowledgeable about exactly what IronSource is about?

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– Bruvazz 38 points 2 years ago +38 / -0

Shady ad company that adds legit malware (by definition) to apps but since it's run by the chosen people, you can't talk ill about it.

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– DomitiusOfMassilia 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Comment Reported for: Rule 16 - Identity Attacks

I don't see how.

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– ThreeLights 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

My god someone/some group are going nuts trying to protect this app. The desperation is starting to getting loud.

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– deleted 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0
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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

if you so much as look in the direction of Israel while making a post you'll get Rule 16'd and a customary downvote.

This literally doesn't happen and can't happen because blaming the Mossad for Israel taking action to interfere in other governments or corporations is both not a violation of Rule 16, and quite well documented.

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0
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– DomitiusOfMassilia 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

I don't have too much direct knowledge, so I just had to look it up. IronSource is a mobile app development company based out of Tel-Aviv that had previously, intentionally, built an installer SDK (so think of the back-end code of an install wizard) called IronCore which formed as the basis of it's business model. IronCore would be purchased by other Software companies so that they could make an installer for their program. Malware organizations and companies want to piggy-back onto these installers using those checkboxes that automatically change your browser or add toolbars. These Malware companies would then pay both the software company and IronSource for each installation they made.

Considering that IronCore became the main mechanism of profit for IronSource, and considering that Malware Bytes (the famous anti-virus software) labeled the IronSource installer as a malware installer, it would be targeted as removal. Seems like IronSource was fully aware that it's business model made most of it's profits from the installation of malware, but was also developing other products (most of which were data collection, monetization, and mobile app development). They have since closed down IronCore several years ago. Unity then purchased them last year.

What OP is saying is that IronSource is now one of the primary mechanisms of ad delivery and ad monetization on Unity. Unity is trying to force people to use IronSource (their own internal ad generating company), rather than a competitor. One of those competitors is called "AppLovin". It is a similar company (and a competitor) to IronSource, but is a larger company and is based out of California.

Why is Unity trying to destroy AppLovin? To me, it appears that Unity isn't trying to destroy AppLovin, but IronSource is trying to destroy AppLovin. AppLovin tried to buy Unity to solve their monetiztion problems. However, part of the terms of that purchase meant that AppLovin's CEO would become the CEO of Unity, and Unity would terminate it's merger with IronSource.

It appears that IronSource took that fucking personally.

Okay, so here's my sources:

  • https://old.reddit.com/r/Unity3D/comments/16j6cip/ironsource_is_the_reason/
  • https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/vy0wsy/unity_is_merging_with_ironsource/
  • https://www.reddit.com/r/Unity3D/comments/vzfoim/why_are_people_upset_with_the_ironsource_thing/
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HobK9kug-Lo
  • https://mobilegamer.biz/unity-is-offering-a-runtime-fee-waiver-if-you-switch-to-levelplay-as-it-tries-to-kill-applovin/
  • https://mobilegamer.biz/applovin-ceo-urges-unity-and-riccitiello-to-ditch-runtime-fees-or-risk-tearing-the-industry-apart/
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppLovin
  • https://www.pcgamer.com/unity-is-merging-with-a-company-who-made-a-malware-installer/
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IronSource
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– MassivePecorino 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

So, Company A buys out Company B, but Company B's C-level officers call the shots for Company A? Is this the fucking aerospace industry?

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– DomitiusOfMassilia 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Fucking apparently.

This makes me quite concerned that the money situation in Unity is catastrophic. You merge with a smaller company, and now the smaller company runs your business. It sounds like in reality, Unity may have been the smaller company.

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– MassivePecorino 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Whether you call it "Get Woke, Go Broke" or "Go Broke, Get Woke, Then Croak" or "Roll Left and Die", all these companies seem to have a set playbook where Step 1 of Financial Recovery Emergency Checklist is "offend every decent person you can".

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– DomitiusOfMassilia 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It's because the financial institutions are helping to secure themselves by propping up (and making dependent) other companies on them.

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– AgnosticTemplar 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

The more they protest the more they reveal their intentions. One of my favorites was the ADL tweeting how Trump rallying against globalist conspiracies, communist subversion, and hostile agents who seek to undermine US rule of law echos 'anti-semitic tropes'.

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– acp_k2win 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

SHUT IT DOWN!

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– Mongle 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Judging by Reveddit, the "antisemitism" they thought it worth shitcanning the entire thread over was just one guy.

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– Assassin47 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Even the THREAT of insult against Jews is intolerable and must be stopped before it can start.

Now don't you dare claim they hold disproportionate power over society.

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– Vivs3rdSock 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

just one guy

So a glowy false flagging, right?

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– NPC_534523413 [S] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Amazing

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– Trailblazersfan 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Can somebody tell me what we should be developing in? I was starting to get into unity with playmaker and it's been fine, but all this craziness, I'd rather something else

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– Trailblazersfan 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I went and did some research and I think you're right. I'll jump in.

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– Assassin47 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Used by Star Citizen, via Lumberyard though now their own heavily modified fork completely divergent from both O3DE, Lumberyard's successor, and CryEngine 5.X. Several former employees of CryTek are also working at CIG.

I don't know if that's an advertisement or not so take it for what it's worth. :)

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0 stickied

Post Reported for: Rule 1 - Illegal Activity

Wat? I don't get it. Also, comments are enabled now: https://old.reddit.com/r/Unity3D/comments/16j6cip/ironsource_is_the_reason/

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– JuanTitor 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

My friend has been working on his game well over 5 years, almost 100% by himself (everything but music), so there is no way he can switch. I mean he can, but like you said it's too much time to switch.

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– BlueDrache 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Honestly, the switch should only put him back about a year or two. Saying that there's "too much time cost to switch" and continue to use a draconian product you don't agree with is the capitulation of the slave.

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– BlueDrache 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

That's ultimately their goal. They're at the top. They rake in the money and they don't want to share. So ... they'll play whatever dirty trick and bottom-dealt card they can to keep anyone else from making it to their position.

A reading of Daniel's prophecies would be beneficial to them.

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– JuanTitor 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I don't think he cares, his comment on it was "oh no, it's terrible when companies try to make money." Realistically it won't effect him on this game because it will likely never hit $200,000 a year in sales.

I care, but I'm not making a game.

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– BlueDrache 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The upside is that you learned something new!

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– undecidedmask 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Can someone explain to me what this means, and why IronSource is a problem?

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– throwawayaccount2037 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

This comment explains it all: https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/17r9RoorpR/x/c/4TxilnZH7ih

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– undecidedmask 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Still very confusing, but thank you for linking that.

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– Decrixxx 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

the eternal janny

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– deleted 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

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