Never forget that Ruby Ridge only unfolded as it did because the officer's sent a guy in to test and kill someone's dog, which triggered the gunfight that killed the boy and led to the standoff. Which directly led into Waco and Oklahoma.
Point being, they will murder your dogs gleefully and see no consequence to it, and then get upset that you dare respond to them.
For as popular as the franchise is very few ever seems to remember that the reason John Wick does what he does in the first film is because Theon and his idiot gang kill the dog.
Steal the car? Sure, annoying as fuck.
Beat him up? Definitely leaves some marks.
But Daisy, the dog/puppy, was a post-mortem gift from Wick's recently deceased wife as a way to try and help him move on from her death which both knew was coming.
A fucking Lab/Retriever mix. A breed that is literally bred to be a Pet is somehow a threat.
I get the threat a Dog poses and the need to shoot a violent Dog as well as make sure it's done. But this isn't a Pitbull, this is less dangerous than a Chihuahua.
It really depends on whether they're bred from hunting lines or not. I had a golden that came from a hunting line. He was a good pet, but he was a fucking savant at retrieving, especially retrieving from water. I replaced him with another golden from a non-hunting line. That dog is a good pet but utterly useless at retrieving.
Reminder that Mohammed Noor never faced full consequence for shooting Justine Damond, because he was black (and an immigrant) and she was white (and also an immigrant)…
So unfortunately, I wouldn’t expect any consequences for the cop here, either…
Dixie the golden retriever apparently ran towards Palmer and he shot the dog.
The worst part of this incident is this
"The dog ran away from the officer, but Palmer fired three more shots at the wounded dog that was retreating from him."
She was paralyzed after one bullet, but he just kept shooting her. He shot her four times," Tammie Kerns told Cleveland.com.
Kearns told WKYC, "After she was shot one time in the street, he should have just let it go and let us get the dog and take her where she needed to be treated. But he didn't do that. She was crawling – useless, helpless – in the street. He continued shooting her as she was trying to come to safety, and he just kept shooting her three more times after the first time."
What justification does he have for doing this?
This case seems to be way more egregious than the incident that triggered the Summer of love in 2020.
It sad to say, but him shooting the dog after it was crippled and crawling away is probably the only way they'll see any justice. Courts have consistently ruled that if a dog is advancing on a cop they can kill it, whether or not has any indications of hostility.
Since he shot it three more times when it was disabled and crawling away, they might be able to win a civil case against the city. If the city gave a shit, they could charge him with in animal cruelty violation, but they won't. They'll still break their back bending over backwards to protect a cop, unless they're offering a one up as a sacrificial lamb to screeching minorities.
"The dog ran away from the officer, but Palmer fired three more shots at the wounded dog that was retreating from him." She was paralyzed after one bullet, but he just kept shooting her. He shot her four times," Tammie Kerns told Cleveland.com. Kearns told WKYC, "After she was shot one time in the street, he should have just let it go and let us get the dog and take her where she needed to be treated. But he didn't do that. She was crawling – useless, helpless – in the street. He continued shooting her as she was trying to come to safety, and he just kept shooting her three more times after the first time."
The dog's owner is not a neutral narrator here. The video clearly shows the dog running away because it was not paralyzed. And to me, her exaggerations take away from her credibility. Having said that, I do not see any justification for shooting a dog that's running away and not presenting a threat to anyone. Everybody, including cops, need to account for every round fired in anger. And in this case, I just don't see it and the cop ought to be fired.
I get being weary of a dog that is coming at you at a reasonable speed... but to go from that to drawing a gun and shooting it ?
Don't cops have a baton or similar blunt melee weapons he could use to shield himself in case the dog was actually hostile ?
The wasn't even showing any signs of aggressive behaviour from what I could see in the video.
Are cops nowadays not trained in anything except drawing and shooting ? Did the bar to which an officer can start carrying a gun lower so much that any idiot who can draw and shoot is given a badge.
I'm neither an American or a dog owner and this video still looks like insane amounts of incompetence to me. I've never met a dog that is particularly cunning in disguising that he is going to attack you, almost all of them signal pretty clearly, baring their fangs, growling, body position and barking.
While it sounds like they'll try to cover for it like any shooting police do unless politicians decide to use it as a grift, the dog breed itself and it all being caught on bodycam is going to HEAVILY damage the police in that area, if not in the court probably in community relations.
John Wick despite being an action film leans into an obvious truth: DO NOT FUCK WITH DOGS especially when they are completely harmless and don't even axt aggressive to you. People will easily leave a stranger to fend for themselves if that means they can save their dog, don't underestimate the bond people have with dogs.
I'm betting that officer is also on leave because the K-9 squad is calling him scum behind his back too.
I agree. The idea that cops are there to protect and serve us is hilarious. They protect and serve the state and their political masters.
When you interact with cops they see you as a weak person that can be extorted for funds at best. At worst they want submission and control for their egos and that leads to deaths.
Then the courts and judges, the judicial facade of the state steps in to clean up and finish you off. They remind you that it's all a game and you're the one without power. It's all about power.
Never forget that Ruby Ridge only unfolded as it did because the officer's sent a guy in to test and kill someone's dog, which triggered the gunfight that killed the boy and led to the standoff. Which directly led into Waco and Oklahoma.
Point being, they will murder your dogs gleefully and see no consequence to it, and then get upset that you dare respond to them.
Heartbreaking way for this poor dog to go.
I hope this dog killer cannot hide behind qualified immunity.
If he does the pet owner should dispense justice himself.
For as popular as the franchise is very few ever seems to remember that the reason John Wick does what he does in the first film is because Theon and his idiot gang kill the dog.
Steal the car? Sure, annoying as fuck.
Beat him up? Definitely leaves some marks.
But Daisy, the dog/puppy, was a post-mortem gift from Wick's recently deceased wife as a way to try and help him move on from her death which both knew was coming.
Remember though, killing police dogs is "murder". Police killing civilian dogs however is SOP.
Who wants him to go to jail?
Even if he can't, the life of a pet is measured at replacement value only under the law. So this lady would be able to recover a few thousand at most.
A fucking Lab/Retriever mix. A breed that is literally bred to be a Pet is somehow a threat. I get the threat a Dog poses and the need to shoot a violent Dog as well as make sure it's done. But this isn't a Pitbull, this is less dangerous than a Chihuahua.
I mean, I agree in principle, but… That’s not what either of the original breeds were intended for…
That mixture? Sure. But their original purpose is in their name, lol…
I caught my dog studying chemistry again. That's what I get for having a lab.
It really depends on whether they're bred from hunting lines or not. I had a golden that came from a hunting line. He was a good pet, but he was a fucking savant at retrieving, especially retrieving from water. I replaced him with another golden from a non-hunting line. That dog is a good pet but utterly useless at retrieving.
He should have to mirror under his car every morning like he's a RUC constable at the height of the troubles.
Aye, laddie.
I don’t understand how police can be simultaneously hated by the left AND the right and yet remain overpaid and underworked for decades…
The state will always prioritize their street level enforcement thugs.
Reminder that Mohammed Noor never faced full consequence for shooting Justine Damond, because he was black (and an immigrant) and she was white (and also an immigrant)…
So unfortunately, I wouldn’t expect any consequences for the cop here, either…
The ATF will hire the officer immediately
Good. Sick of scumbag cops whose presence only makes things worse.
Local cop thinks he's ATF
ATF: Real shit?
Apparently he was on patrol and saw three dogs roaming around and the owners trying to control the dogs.
https://archive.ph/V2UaS
Dixie the golden retriever apparently ran towards Palmer and he shot the dog.
The worst part of this incident is this
"The dog ran away from the officer, but Palmer fired three more shots at the wounded dog that was retreating from him." She was paralyzed after one bullet, but he just kept shooting her. He shot her four times," Tammie Kerns told Cleveland.com. Kearns told WKYC, "After she was shot one time in the street, he should have just let it go and let us get the dog and take her where she needed to be treated. But he didn't do that. She was crawling – useless, helpless – in the street. He continued shooting her as she was trying to come to safety, and he just kept shooting her three more times after the first time."
What justification does he have for doing this?
This case seems to be way more egregious than the incident that triggered the Summer of love in 2020.
It sad to say, but him shooting the dog after it was crippled and crawling away is probably the only way they'll see any justice. Courts have consistently ruled that if a dog is advancing on a cop they can kill it, whether or not has any indications of hostility.
Since he shot it three more times when it was disabled and crawling away, they might be able to win a civil case against the city. If the city gave a shit, they could charge him with in animal cruelty violation, but they won't. They'll still break their back bending over backwards to protect a cop, unless they're offering a one up as a sacrificial lamb to screeching minorities.
Maybe if the dog had been a black lab there would be more outrage.
You can watch the full incident here.
The dog's owner is not a neutral narrator here. The video clearly shows the dog running away because it was not paralyzed. And to me, her exaggerations take away from her credibility. Having said that, I do not see any justification for shooting a dog that's running away and not presenting a threat to anyone. Everybody, including cops, need to account for every round fired in anger. And in this case, I just don't see it and the cop ought to be fired.
I get being weary of a dog that is coming at you at a reasonable speed... but to go from that to drawing a gun and shooting it ? Don't cops have a baton or similar blunt melee weapons he could use to shield himself in case the dog was actually hostile ? The wasn't even showing any signs of aggressive behaviour from what I could see in the video.
Are cops nowadays not trained in anything except drawing and shooting ? Did the bar to which an officer can start carrying a gun lower so much that any idiot who can draw and shoot is given a badge.
I'm neither an American or a dog owner and this video still looks like insane amounts of incompetence to me. I've never met a dog that is particularly cunning in disguising that he is going to attack you, almost all of them signal pretty clearly, baring their fangs, growling, body position and barking.
They say all police in America have to be below 80IQ to even qualify for the job.
While it sounds like they'll try to cover for it like any shooting police do unless politicians decide to use it as a grift, the dog breed itself and it all being caught on bodycam is going to HEAVILY damage the police in that area, if not in the court probably in community relations.
John Wick despite being an action film leans into an obvious truth: DO NOT FUCK WITH DOGS especially when they are completely harmless and don't even axt aggressive to you. People will easily leave a stranger to fend for themselves if that means they can save their dog, don't underestimate the bond people have with dogs.
I'm betting that officer is also on leave because the K-9 squad is calling him scum behind his back too.
K-9 squads are scum themselves that would happily kill you for defending yourself against one of their attack dogs.
You're a dumbass if you think k9 cops care about anything except using their k9 to attack and control people.
They aren't some "dog lovers" or some shit like that. You've fallen for the warm and fuzzy police propaganda.
The only function the police serve nowadays is to protect the real criminals from what we should do to them.
I agree. The idea that cops are there to protect and serve us is hilarious. They protect and serve the state and their political masters.
When you interact with cops they see you as a weak person that can be extorted for funds at best. At worst they want submission and control for their egos and that leads to deaths.
Then the courts and judges, the judicial facade of the state steps in to clean up and finish you off. They remind you that it's all a game and you're the one without power. It's all about power.