It was created from the start out of Dom's, and Antonio's influence leftover from reddit if I had to assume, fear of Stormfags and their apparent insidious ability to just steal communities from under you if they are allowed to speak.
Most of the rules we have now only exist for that reason. Because speaking bad about the Jews is a magically corrupting influence that will kill us all. Certainly all these draconian measures (and the well reasoned and level headed arguments of the pro-semites) would never push a lot of neutral parties more onto that Stormy side, surely.
fear of Stormfags and their apparent insidious ability to just steal communities from under you if they are allowed to speak.
They invade any place that allows free speech, and drive out anyone remotely sensible. How many people do you think want to post in a place where half the comments are about how much some idiots hate Jews?
Whether you are or not, there's no disputing that this is what happens to every forum that allows Stormfags.
And Stormfags are able to say that "X bad thing" is what happens you allow Jews to act unimpeded. They are usually right when they say that too, even if its just unrelated correlation that means nothing instead of an actual causation.
Working backwards from the result will always give you the answer you want it to say.
Nah, I try to limit such things precisely because I know that it's annoying to other people.
Well I can appreciate the self awareness and will cease to use it as a point if you are making an active effort to do so for our sakes.
And Stormfags are able to say that "X bad thing" is what happens you allow Jews to act unimpeded.
They can. But I don't think Jews are the moral equivalent of Stormfags, nor that their wild claims are remotely comparable to the proven claims about Stormfags wrecking community.
Working backwards from the result will always give you the answer you want it to say.
If you put inordinate amount of attention whenever someone of group X says something you don't like, while ignoring all the cases where one of them says something you do like, you'll end up with the conclusion you like.
Well I can appreciate the self awareness and will cease to use it as a point if you are making an active effort to do so for our sakes.
Criticism is good, I'd never have realized that a lot of people get annoyed if you hadn't said it.
It's mostly for the fact that they are Leftists that will always argue in bad faith and will never, under any circumstance stop pushing their propaganda, even to the point of openly calling for violence and genocide, hoping to attract the attention of law enforcement, and driving sane users away.
This position only works if you had banned people like DrJester and even Antonio for getting into endless bad faith slapfights with people that did nothing but drive people away regardless of their position relative to them.
You can't keep trotting out this line when you only enforce it sometimes. If your rules aren't enforced evenly, they aren't rules. They are suggestions and protections for people you like.
And yet not a single solitary soul has said a word to me about being driven away by Dr. Jester or AoV. Just that they hate them. The same can't be said about the Stormfags. Somewhere under 6 or so people have come to me on both Reddit and .win and said something akin to: "This place is filled with anti-semites, if you can't purge them, I gotta go. It's exhausting / they never stop / it's in literally every post / I didn't think it would be that bad, but it's really toxic / I can't just argue with them forever."
That's why VOAT ended up the way it did. Even the fucking Poal admins, who were some of the original VOAT admins said the same shit: they spiral wildly out of control, and it's the only thing they ever talk about, it becomes a complete shithole, typically filled with actual feds who also keep stirring the pot.
It's actually why they invented that cool user hierarchy system. Privileges in each section and forum-wide were dished out via your experience posting and approval. Unfortunately, it didn't totally help because the whole user base was basically former VOAT users who had nowhere else to go.
This isn't just bickering. This oppositional-dialectic poisons people's minds. The ideological incantations are so repetitive (intentionally) that it warps your perception of reality. Not too unlike what porn or gore footage does when over-used. All I've seen from AoV is him get into his usual grudge matches with specific people; not craft a meta-narrative. Jester is a proud anti-anti-semite that seems to be on a genuine crusade in response to this dialectic, but his strategy clearly doesn't work all that well.
And, this isn't about "people I like". I have enforced our rules on those two, and they didn't care for it. Fuck, I've literally enforced the rules on me, to the surprise of AoV who checked the mod logs once and said, "You removed your own comment? I've always wondered if you were a robot."
And yet not a single solitary soul has said a word to me about being driven away
Yes because they just left. This is a dumb barometer and its insulting to your own intelligence that you thought to use it.
Somewhere under 6 or so people have come to me on both Reddit and .win and said
So if enough people came to you whining about the homophobia and racism and transphobia causing them to stop posting, you would consider it a real problem? Or is this just a special exception? Because it sounds like you are just making a special exception.
This oppositional-dialectic poisons people's minds.
Well I can say for certain I didn't believe an inch about stormfaggotry or their conspiracies until I continued to see people argue with them like ranting loons, and then continued special exceptions be made against them as if they were an actual corrupting evil.
The fact that you typed 5 paragraphs to justify yourself and bend into fucking knots about how some people just don't deserve the same rights as others because they might be problematic, should be a wake up call to yourself about how lost in the sauce you are.
If they are that bad just make a fucking direct rule about it and ban them. Stop being a pussy with your half vague measures and just own up to what you clearly want to do anyway.
Most people just leave when they want to leave. But that's my point. I've been around here for 3 years and nobody has ever said they left because of AoV or Jester.
Most of the people who they get into grudge matches with stay here. Instead, I've had people go back to Reddit, because it was easier to deal with that, then to deal with jew-haters being utterly incessant. A lot of people end up just doing both, because they don't want to deal with the incessant, but occasional jew hatred. They know which thread are going to be populated by ConPro aficionados, and just avoid them.
So if enough people came to you whining about the homophobia and racism and transphobia causing them to stop posting, you would consider it a real problem?
It can be. It depends on whether or not there are activist factions wholly dedicated to derailing entire forums into one and only one topic, particularly with a Leftist bent.
Put it like this: I put up that "5 post maximum" rule 3 years ago because a Tulsi Gabbard shill account and Andrenal were posting 30-50 posts a day, combined. I actually had to take action there because they were derailing the entire fucking sub to a point that was out of control. People couldn't even find their own posts. They acquiesced to it and life improved. There are dedicated efforts to push shit that destroys forums. I don't care about basic opinions of individuals, but the insane collectivist action and mind-virus level the behavior of racial progressives is something different than just an opinion.
The fact that you typed 5 paragraphs to justify yourself and bend into fucking knots about how some people just don't deserve the same rights as others because they might be problematic, should be a wake up call to yourself about how lost in the sauce you are.
People pushing those oppositional-dialectics aren't just "some people". They are ideologically possessed lunatics on a rampage. If they were normal people, they'd work within the rules. It really isn't that hard. Several of them do because they aren't total fucking retards. The rest are so ideologically driven by this oppositional-dialectic that they will never act outside of it, in defiance to it, and will only interpret all information within it.
Leftists aren't people, not as we normally understand them to be. They are literally possessed by an ideology. Even a shill makes more sense.
Instead, I've had people go back to Reddit, because it was easier to deal with that, then to deal with jew-haters being utterly incessant
And I left KIA2 reddit because the leftovers there were insufferable hugboxes. Does my opinion count? Does this problem deserve special exception attention? Or is it again, only in this one topic where it gets special exception attention?
It depends on whether or not there are activist factions wholly dedicated to derailing entire forums into one
So now its all a huge conspiracy to take over. Very rational. Just like every single person who downvotes Imp is a ConPro shill following him around to derail his gospel.
I actually had to take action there because they were derailing the entire fucking sub to a point that was out of control. People couldn't even find their own posts.
That's an apolitical action. It has no personal bias and is applied evenly and fairly. Which is all I want to get to the bottom of. Why is this topic so special beyond "because it is."
They are ideologically possessed lunatics on a rampage.
So when is there going to be an active action taken against misogyny then? Because everything you said applies to Imp, and myself to a more restrained amount. Again, everything you say makes sense but its only applied on this one topic.
I'm not a stormfag, and my posting and browsing would change almost 0% if it was all banned. I simply cannot stand inconsistency.
I got banned (fer a day), as far as I can tell, for using the acronym for Zionist Occupation Government, which I guess sounds bad in acronym. This was not explicit, but I guess don't do that. That's all I can figure when I do that and get banned.
Yup, there was a whole thread about that, or a similar issue. Dom really didn't make a compelling point for how ZOG was banworthy, but other attacks were not.
ZOG is apparently attacking an entire identity group, but nigger or fag isn't, even though it all depends on who's reading what into it. But, hey "The issue with ZOG is what it already pre-supposes because it is an acronym," according to Dom.
I, for one, am totally convinced. It's an acronym, so pack it in, boys.
For the record, I come at this from a free speech angle, not indiscriminate Jew hatred. I just think it's a really bad argument.
Tho i can't resist saying I see that thing as akin to the "Illuminati" or masons. If you say something about freemasons, are you attacking a whole religion as conspiratorial, or are you merely pointing out that a secretive group is secretive? The term Zionist itself gives you an indication that not all jews because not all jews are Zionists. It's one of the bigger splits within that religion. To say "Zionists" represents all jews would be like saying Shiites represent all Muslims.
It's beyond stupid to claim that "ZOG" is in some special category when it comes to "attacking identity groups." But, somehow, that's the openly stated mod decision.
I even specified GAE as Gay American Empire, and was corrected to Global, and told it wasn't the same. So even if you specify a Gay conspiracy, that's fine, but a Jewish conspiracy is beyond the pale.
But, if I specifically say that that I'm referencing the Gay American Empire, is that against the rules? Stop changing what I'm saying. I'm not saying all instances of GAE are a gay identity attack, but if I specifically say what it stands for in my use at that time of posting, is that banworthy?
I don't like the Gay American Empire, I think their influence is toxic on society.
But, if I specifically say that that I'm referencing the Gay American Empire, is that against the rules?
As in what? That term is not commonly used. I don't have enough information to make a decision because your the only one using that term.
If you say: "Kill the Wibblesnogs!" I have no idea what that means because you just made it up.
So are Zionists
If you believe that they are actually an ideology. A Judeo-Bolshevist literally does not accept that there is a difference between Jews and Bolsheviks. The terms are interchanable to them. Race creates culture. Jewishness creates Bolshevism. Hence, we have to look for context clues and user history to gain any sort of understanding about what they are talking about when they talk about Zionism. Are they actually referring to Zionists as an ideological progressive, nationalist, movement? Or are they simply doing the same thing as a Judeo-Bolshevist idealogue? Again, to those same people: all Jews are Zionists without exception. Race creates culture. Jewishness creates Zionism. 1:1.
Considering, like many ideologies, they have a plethora of ideological dogwhistles and memes for themselves, you can use those to better understand the context of the argument.
And one those memes... is ZOG. And it has been for a long time.
As in what? That term [Gay American Empire] is not commonly used. I don't have enough information to make a decision because your the only one using that term.
If you say: "Kill the Wibblesnogs!" I have no idea what that means because you just made it up.
It should be fairly self explanatory, though, I should think. The former, of course. Not your nonsense which is in no way a reasonable comparison.
Say I say that I don't like that the Gays control the world? Is that banworthy? What if I say I don't like that the Jews control the world? For the record, I don't like how much influence either group holds.
If you believe that they [Zionists] are actually an ideology.
Plenty of non-Jews will openly declare themselves Zionists. This is silly.
A Judeo-Bolshevist literally does not accept that there is a difference between Jews and Bolsheviks.
Again with the mindreading. I don't care what 'some people' think, that's a terrible basis for moderation practices.
The terms are interchanable to them.
Again, emphasis on "to them." Don't care.
Hence, we have to look for context clues and user history to gain any sort of understanding about what they are talking about when they talk about Zionism.
Oh hell no, that sounds terrifying.
Are they actually referring to Zionists as an ideological progressive, nationalist, movement? Or are they simply doing the same thing as a Judeo-Bolshevist idealogue?
Who the fuck cares?
Considering, like many ideologies, they have a plethora of ideological dogwhistles and memes for themselves, you can use those to better understand the context of the argument.
Still. Do. Not. Care.
And one those memes... is ZOG. And it has been for a long time.
The jannies here continue to prove themselves no different to inbreddit. Apparently, posting a quote saying a group of people don't like being named as the group they're apart of (shout out to the midwit claiming it's "Intentional Falsehood") and saying that a group of people prioritizing what they're born as over where they're born is "Identity Attacks", it should be clear what's going on here. Feel free to show me all the bans being handed out for people talking about how "trannies need to face the wall" and how "all gay men were molested". Until then, feel free to keep doing it for free.
EDIT: DoM refuses to show the receipts to what I said. Make of that what you will.
Nah I'll defend Dom over other jannies. I appreciate him doing a job that most people don't want to do, and i don't usually get banned so nananana boo boo I guess.
You're lying about the removal. It wasn't about "not liking" it was that you were pushing Gobbels claim that jews were an inherent race of inferiors, who sought to destroy nations through degeneracy and subversion, and would stop at nothing in their quest to kill civilization.
If that was the case, you'd have reposted my comment wholesale.
But sure, I'll remember this the next time I see comments about how "rainbow niggers/pastel niggers/sand niggers/jungle niggers/rice niggers/potato niggers/maple niggers/vodka niggers/taco niggers are pushing an agenda of subversion to destroy society". Apparently, of all the groups on the face of the Earth, there's only one single group of people you're not allowed to claim have an in-group preference and work together to change the laws to suit them. Point out how the Chinese are using their influence to enrich themselves? Perfectly fine. Point out how anyone with dark skin will prefer people of similar flesh tone? Go for it. But there's one group you're not allowed to mention.
Fantastic, don't forget to actually report them if you want them removed.
Apparently, of all the groups on the face of the Earth, there's only one single group of people you're not allowed to claim have an in-group preference and work together to change the laws to suit them.
Talk about in-group preference: acceptable for all groups
Racial conspiracy to change national law to allow them to dominate the world: bannable for all groups
I've repeatedly said this would apply to "The Patriarchy" and "White Supremacy", but there aren't any Leftists to argue those points in order to get banned.
Point out how the Chinese are using their influence to enrich themselves? Perfectly fine.
That depends on what you are saying. Can a Chinese person do that: yes. (no sanction). Is Sinoification a long-standing policy of multiple Chinese government: yes (no action). Are the Chinese seeking, as a race, to demographically dominate the world: No (and actionable).
Point out how anyone with dark skin will prefer people of similar flesh tone?
Fantastic, don't forget to actually report them if you want them removed.
Like the site is that fucking busy.
I've repeatedly said this would apply to "The Patriarchy" and "White Supremacy", but there aren't any Leftists to argue those points in order to get banned.
You're right, instead it's about "The Homosexual Agenda" and how "The Gays" are working together so they can fuck your kids. Despite being gay myself, I don't report those comments because I know a) shutting down conversations makes me a fucking cuck, b) engaging with people in dialogue is a more effective way at change, c) I'm not a little bitch who cries about people calling me names.
Still waiting for you to post that quote, but the way.
You're right, instead it's about "The Homosexual Agenda" and how "The Gays" are working together so they can fuck your kids.
Normally it's about queers rather than gays.
I don't report those comments
Dispirate Impact, father-fucker.
Do not fucking expect me to give you equal outcomes when you refuse to ask for those outcomes in the appropriate manner, regardless of actual number of violations.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Rule 16 is actually necessary to prevent the intentional balkanization and radicalization that Progressive Identity Politics promotes in every and all circumstances in order to deceive and recruit people into accepting pure ideological meta-narratives
Your argument has been about demanding to address Disparate Impact (Equality of Outcome) in rule enforcement regardless of the number of violations being made or being reported. That is never going to happen. I will never be able to remove enough anti-white comments in the sub compared to anti-jew comments in the sub because they'll never be in the same amount.
Ah so it's race wide but not gender wide, because attacking half of humanity for your sexual frustration is a-ok, but discussing the actual humans that actually own x, y, z, well less than 2% the population, is blaming an entire race for a racewide conspilpul pilpul pilpul pilpul and therefore banned
Oh AND you're an evil stormcuck! Yes, from our "name blame and hate literally half of humanity" moral high chair, we look down our noses at you dirty "angry at the actual actions of the actual owner" scum and your dirty >2%-blamer ways! These "you can just literally look up their names lmao" stormcucks have no moral or intellectual standing!
Interestingly enough, the effect is apparent in plain sight here. A user who represents less than 2% of this forum considers himself the owner, maintains a system of entirely personal ethnicity driven preference, and would rather you blame something like 50%of the users for discussing plain reality.
Also, this one guy (I think it's just him, here?) is gonna become more odious as his tribe loses the war on the internet proper, eventually bringing you to Great Awakening levels of cringe and policing in order to maintain the political narratives they selectively manufacture, unless it is all forcibly eschewed by some populist mechanism.
oh uh, all the above an individual basis, tho, of course, in accordance to the rule
It's not even race-wide, since even there it's not applied equally. Any slur against Jews will be assumed to mean all Jews, and thus a violation of Rule 16*, but terms like "nigger" are somehow fine.
I thought we didn't believe in hate speech here?! I don't care if it's a slur or not, people should be able to say it. Talk shit about Jews, blacks, whites, who the fuck cares? They're words. I'm not arguing "stormcuckry" is polite, but it is speech, and I don't think rules should be used in a targeted fashion against certain speech.
Mods need to butt the fuck out. It's a nonissue.
* Rule 16, again for the people in the back, is pants-on-head retarded to begin with, and needs to be abolished. No one likes or wants it, and there's no pressure from the site to have it in effect. But that's a separate issue, thus the footnote.
You went off for a whole thread about how certain attacks were deemed R16 violations when regarding Jews, while other similar attacks weren't. Your logic didn't hold up.
Also, I'm not who you seem to think I am; I just like free speech, and true equality. I think there are some issues with "the Jews," but I'm not heavy into it.
And R16 is and always will be retarded, and needs to be done away with. Moderate calls to violence, spam, porn, but otherwise leave off. I couldn't give a shit if people are rude, up to and including attacking "identity groups," whatever the fuck that is.
Quit making shit up.
I don't do that shit, bitch. Never have, never will. Heck, I often get downvoted for being too nuanced.
You've said yourself you don't want to be a heavy handed moderator...well, nothing is saying you have to be. Just chill out.
Not sure where you get off coming after me, especially in mod voice. And especially since we've generally gotten along. I'm saying my opinion, I think it's backed up by actions, and I stand by said opinion.
I apologize for making you angry. My issue is that every single one of these "Rule 16" threads is entirely around bad faith arguments about how I would never in my life enforce Rule 16 equally because I hate white people and I'm jew. Normally coming from people who explicitly support censorship, hate free expression, and would harass anyone who disagreed with them, going well past the point of telling them to kill themselves.
What I see from you is the same false claim. That I don't enforce Rule 16 against anything but Jews, despite it literally being a daily question in my life that I actually work at to make sure I enforce equally.
My problem is that: "Fuck you, you're just a fucking kike nigger-lover that wants to replace white people, kill yourself." is a really grating response from people who are diametrically opposed to any sort of honest conversation and uncensored. And would be happy putting a bullet in my fucking head after saying that they are not the avatars of white people.
That is not your response, and you honestly believe your complaint to be true, but it is false. It is one of many false complaints that I get, mostly from people with the intention of turning KiA into a racist shithole, and driving you off the forum for being a "jewish enabler".
I'm speaking in my mod voice because I'm giving explanations to my moderating behavior. It's not a threat.
I'm at most mildly annoyed by your continual bullshit, but sure.
My issue is that every single one of these "Rule 16" threads is entirely around bad faith arguments
Says you. No one has ever liked R16, from the very beginning. It was always Reddit-tier crap, and didn't belong here. It's still absurd we even have sixteen rules, much less the content in them. Leftists, rightists...people who think they can read minds piss me off, regardless of political affiliation. R16 is bad, criticism of R16 is often warranted.
about how I would never in my life enforce Rule 16 equally because I hate white people and I'm jew.
Way to go to the extreme...
Normally coming from people who explicitly support censorship, hate free expression, and would harass anyone who disagreed with them, going well past the point of telling them to kill themselves.
Ad hominem. Are some of these people hypocrites? Probably. Doesn't change the argument. Again, stop reading into things that aren't there.
What I see from you is the same false claim. That I don't enforce Rule 16 against anything but Jews, despite it literally being a daily question in my life that I actually work at to make sure I enforce equally.
I hope the Hot Pockets are worth it. Also, I never said that, you're once again going to the extremes. I think you might overly enforce it against Da Jews, but I never said exclusively.
My problem is that: "Fuck you, you're just a fucking kike nigger-lover that wants to replace white people, kill yourself." is a really grating response from people who are diametrically opposed to any sort of honest conversation and uncensored. And would be happy putting a bullet in my fucking head after saying that they are not the avatars of white people.
Oh, fucking chill. Once again, going to the extreme. Do you get much of that? Have any of the recent threads been about that? Has the OP in any of the recent threads threatened your life? If yes, provide receipts. If not, it's just more bullshit emotional redirection. Again, we're about free speech. Just be as hands off as possible, and leave your personal shit out of it. Simple.
That is not your response, and you honestly believe your complaint to be true, but it is false.
Again, says you, Mindreader.
I'm speaking in my mod voice because I'm giving explanations to my moderating behavior. It's not a threat.
Never said it was a threat. Said it was weird you saying I was lying, when I'm clearly not.
I'm at most mildly annoyed by your continual bullshit
Fine. I apologize anyway.
Way to go to the extreme...
Literally a regular occurrence. Just about every other day or so. Nothing extreme about it.
I think you might overly enforce it against Da Jews, but I never said exclusively.
It's the same base premise: The rule is never enforced equally, despite it being enforced equally.
Again, stop reading into things that aren't there.
I don't have to intentionally be retarded so that I can pretend that I don't understand things that are self-evident. When someone is ideologically possessed, you don't need to read minds, you already know what they think if you know their ideology, especially when they are advocating that ideology or from that ideology.
This is what the NPC meme is about. The ideologically captured are predictable because the ideology is predictable.
Has the OP in any of the recent threads threatened your life?
I'm doing my own mindreading and deciding it sounded passive aggressive. You apologized for "making me angry," when I criticized you. But, if it was legitimate, sure, thank you.
I don't have to intentionally be retarded so that I can pretend that I don't understand things that are self-evident.
You keep saying that. It's not as compelling as you think it is. Again, why is "nigger" or "fag" allowed? Plenty would consider it "intentionally retarded" to not view those as identity attacks.
I'm not asking you to be retarded. I'm just asking you to be more hands off, as I think some of these enforcements are extremely silly and unnecessary. That's it, that's all there is.
This is what the NPC meme is about. The ideologically captured are predictable because the ideology is predictable.
Aight, people you don't agree with are NPCs, and their opinions can be discarded.
"Kill yourself" is not a threat.
A) Then stop bitching. B) You didn't address my question. Have any of the recent OPs told you to kill yourself, or is this some strawman bullshit?
That's weird, because I've approved comments which called jews kikes.
Funny considering how one of my comments you removed was about how you can call a Jew any number of slurs but apparently they don't enjoy being called a Jew. Curious.
I have never once removed a single comment from this forum for someone calling someone a jew, even if they aren't jews. Never. In fact, I've explicitly told White Nationalists "you can call people jews" while they were echo-posting because they thought they couldn't.
I removed your post because Gobbels quote was about how jews are inherently inferior and trying to destroy civilization.
No. At this point, let's be honest, what you are doing is trolling me so I post the Gobbels quote for you; as if you were having an honest conversation.
You're making shit up about what I said and refusing to back it up but have the fucking balls to claims that I'm the one not having an honest conversation? Maybe the actual reason isn't that I'm "trolling you". Maybe it's because you know I have it screencapped and can show proof if you tried to fucking lie.
For the sheer amount of shit he keeps on spamming he'd be banned anywhere.
It doesn't even matter if his obsession is women.
If hotdogs were his thing and he replied every thread talking about how hotdogs are awesome, with several replies, frequently derailing threads into hotdog discussion, he would still be banned anywhere. What he does is nothing more than spamming.
One thing I've noticed in many political/personality/drama/identity forums is that a village idiot is often tolerated to give the other members a communal punching bag. Impy is more monotonous spam than idiot, but his un-nuanced monocausal obsession crosses the duncehat threshold. I don't pay close attention here 75% of the year, but I haven't noticed any other persistent derailers. Tolerating blatantly IQ-damaging commentators who don't outright break rules will sink any community.
Yes, they are worth banning if they are pushing the idea that white women are operating as a collective cabal, or are inherently morally inferior.
That's why Imp was banned, again.
But look, if you don't report it, I'm probably not going to see it. And yes, sometimes I miss shit. That's my bad. Thing is, if it violates the rules, it violates the rules.
For the third time in almost as many months or something. Plus however many times before that. Almost like it's a character feature with him which begs the question why bother just keep banning him over and over instead of letting him stew in his personal board forever. 🙄
Because I try to keep the same approach with removals as everyone else. Increasing ban times that allow for people to make adjustments if they so chose. And they have the ability to come back and try again later if they aren't a full-scale utter fuck-up.
I don't "remove comments for racism". I remove them for violating Rule 16. And yes, that happens in regards to blacks. I think I just did one yesterday.
Jester hasn't posted to this place in months. He's fucking gone, dude. In fact, he specifically told me he was going to stop posting because it wasn't worth his time to come here and engage against jew haters because he wasn't getting enough support from the sub or me.
Replying separately instead of editing to add that I' shaking my fucking head at the mod of a gamergate forum who would rather ban users for badmouthing women than let le heckin hatred spread.
How long did the forum collectively spend bitching about the nonexistence of hate speech, coping with gamergaters being treated as a hate group, and about how the mods at reddit were selectively deleting posts and enforcing rules?
Are you smelling what I'm cooking, here? Seriously. It is all just so transparent and clear and cyclical.
Yknow people change over time and sometimes they discover they feel differently about stuff than they thought they did. Sometimes they find that suddenly they no longer fuckin belong! It is sad and yet majestic, it's life and growth and in my opinion it could fill the body of "goodbye cruel forum" letter that would leave free human expression enjouers everywhere teary eyed.
This is not hate speech. I have never accused anyone of hate speech. I already replied to you about Conquest's Second Law elsewhere.
No one in GamerGate ever argued that "Women in gaming was a strategy imposed by women to eradicate men's spaces, as part of their sexual war on men, and their innate inferiority as a sub-species." If you remember correctly, we had a "#NotYourShield" campaign to explicitly reject the oppositional-dialectic that the SJWs were using to defend themselves.
You're trying to argue that GamerGate was about needing to express how much we hate women, when it was a consumer revolt against corruption, fraud, and nepotism.
charges were filed against this total dood and therefore authorities are absolved in the matter of claims of bias
If world class propagandists cant pull it off with the general public what makes you think the effort is so appropriate with gamergaters. Why not release the Imp and then allow people to commit thought crime?
If your opinion is that decorum (as seen by you) trumps expression, then why do you feel it is appropriate to be a mod here where the values are completely inverted from that?
I sound capricious saying so but reddit is n dire need of mods with values that jive with yours and there is a vacuum there. It feels like you fled to escape exactly what you are doing. You wanted to badmouth women and trannies at a level that reddit suppressed and you moved here, where people want to badmouth jews at a level that you suppress. It is hypocritical.
World class propagandists have institutionalized it into every history book in the US. Fuck, sociology didn't believe that "Left Wing Authoritarianism" was physically possible for *decades.
Decorum doesn't trump expression, because expression isn't silenced by decorum restrictions. Viewpoints can't be prevented with basic decorum.
You wanted to badmouth women and trannies at a level that reddit suppressed and you moved here, where people want to badmouth jews at a level that you suppress.
I wanted a place where dissent can exist. I literally have a fucking Kafka Rule that AoV was perma-banned for violating, that I can't tell anyone what it is because that's why he got banned. Fuck, KIA 1 had to just ban all conversations on transgenderism because it's too fucking risky. I didn't come here because "I hate women" or whatever.
The limitation is on Leftist meta-narratives (because Robert Conquest's 2nd Rule), glowie nonsense, and basic-bitch forum clean up (like no porn). This shit isn't hard to deal with. Just focus on making arguments that don't revolve around dialect-oppositional meta-narratives, and you're good.
Meanwhile, I literally just removed a comment that slandered Polish people.
The fact that you literally won't ever stop screaming at the top of your lungs about jews all the time is not "selective enforcement". Your always seeking to violate that specific rule, and you are always seeking to violate it in regards to almost total exclusivity of any other targets.
Don't give me any "disparate impact" nonsense. Almost no one on this sub every attacks white people as a race of biological and moral inferiors, so I don't have to remove any comments regarding it. Same with hindus.
You select the targets, therefore you get the enforcement.
Once again, the issue is not "harm". The issue is the intentional balkanization and radicalization that Progressive Identity Politics promotes in every and all circumstances in order to deceive and recruit people into accepting pure ideological meta-narratives.
Meanwhile, I literally just removed a comment that slandered Polish people.
Yeah, people tend to drive the speed limit when a cop is tailing them.
The fact that you literally won't ever stop screaming at the top of your lungs about jews all the time is not "selective enforcement". Your always seeking to violate that specific rule, and you are always seeking to violate it in regards to almost total exclusivity of any other targets.
And yes, how dare I mention Jews in a post about a highly-influential Jewish sexologist that created modern day transgender ideology. Obviously, that means I'm obsessed.
You select the targets, therefore you get the enforcement.
Even if R16 was enforced equally...it's a retarded rule from the very foundation. And completely unnecessary.
Its a Reddit rule and doesn't belong here
It was created from the start out of Dom's, and Antonio's influence leftover from reddit if I had to assume, fear of Stormfags and their apparent insidious ability to just steal communities from under you if they are allowed to speak.
Most of the rules we have now only exist for that reason. Because speaking bad about the Jews is a magically corrupting influence that will kill us all. Certainly all these draconian measures (and the well reasoned and level headed arguments of the pro-semites) would never push a lot of neutral parties more onto that Stormy side, surely.
They invade any place that allows free speech, and drive out anyone remotely sensible. How many people do you think want to post in a place where half the comments are about how much some idiots hate Jews?
I'm sure we are much better off having you getting into petty slapfights with them being half the comments in some threads instead.
But that's not a problem, because its what you like and thereby its actually redefined as a good thing.
Whether you are or not, there's no disputing that this is what happens to every forum that allows Stormfags.
Nah, I try to limit such things precisely because I know that it's annoying to other people.
And Stormfags are able to say that "X bad thing" is what happens you allow Jews to act unimpeded. They are usually right when they say that too, even if its just unrelated correlation that means nothing instead of an actual causation.
Working backwards from the result will always give you the answer you want it to say.
Well I can appreciate the self awareness and will cease to use it as a point if you are making an active effort to do so for our sakes.
They can. But I don't think Jews are the moral equivalent of Stormfags, nor that their wild claims are remotely comparable to the proven claims about Stormfags wrecking community.
If you put inordinate amount of attention whenever someone of group X says something you don't like, while ignoring all the cases where one of them says something you do like, you'll end up with the conclusion you like.
Criticism is good, I'd never have realized that a lot of people get annoyed if you hadn't said it.
It's mostly for the fact that they are Leftists that will always argue in bad faith and will never, under any circumstance stop pushing their propaganda, even to the point of openly calling for violence and genocide, hoping to attract the attention of law enforcement, and driving sane users away.
This position only works if you had banned people like DrJester and even Antonio for getting into endless bad faith slapfights with people that did nothing but drive people away regardless of their position relative to them.
You can't keep trotting out this line when you only enforce it sometimes. If your rules aren't enforced evenly, they aren't rules. They are suggestions and protections for people you like.
And yet not a single solitary soul has said a word to me about being driven away by Dr. Jester or AoV. Just that they hate them. The same can't be said about the Stormfags. Somewhere under 6 or so people have come to me on both Reddit and .win and said something akin to: "This place is filled with anti-semites, if you can't purge them, I gotta go. It's exhausting / they never stop / it's in literally every post / I didn't think it would be that bad, but it's really toxic / I can't just argue with them forever."
That's why VOAT ended up the way it did. Even the fucking Poal admins, who were some of the original VOAT admins said the same shit: they spiral wildly out of control, and it's the only thing they ever talk about, it becomes a complete shithole, typically filled with actual feds who also keep stirring the pot.
It's actually why they invented that cool user hierarchy system. Privileges in each section and forum-wide were dished out via your experience posting and approval. Unfortunately, it didn't totally help because the whole user base was basically former VOAT users who had nowhere else to go.
This isn't just bickering. This oppositional-dialectic poisons people's minds. The ideological incantations are so repetitive (intentionally) that it warps your perception of reality. Not too unlike what porn or gore footage does when over-used. All I've seen from AoV is him get into his usual grudge matches with specific people; not craft a meta-narrative. Jester is a proud anti-anti-semite that seems to be on a genuine crusade in response to this dialectic, but his strategy clearly doesn't work all that well.
And, this isn't about "people I like". I have enforced our rules on those two, and they didn't care for it. Fuck, I've literally enforced the rules on me, to the surprise of AoV who checked the mod logs once and said, "You removed your own comment? I've always wondered if you were a robot."
We all live under a crafted meta-narrative mate. We all do our part to enforce it from time to time, without even realizing.
We live under the perceptions of stories we tell ourselves. We don't live under meta-narratives, unless we are an idealogue.
Most people live very parochially, not ideologically.
Yes because they just left. This is a dumb barometer and its insulting to your own intelligence that you thought to use it.
So if enough people came to you whining about the homophobia and racism and transphobia causing them to stop posting, you would consider it a real problem? Or is this just a special exception? Because it sounds like you are just making a special exception.
Well I can say for certain I didn't believe an inch about stormfaggotry or their conspiracies until I continued to see people argue with them like ranting loons, and then continued special exceptions be made against them as if they were an actual corrupting evil.
The fact that you typed 5 paragraphs to justify yourself and bend into fucking knots about how some people just don't deserve the same rights as others because they might be problematic, should be a wake up call to yourself about how lost in the sauce you are.
If they are that bad just make a fucking direct rule about it and ban them. Stop being a pussy with your half vague measures and just own up to what you clearly want to do anyway.
Most people just leave when they want to leave. But that's my point. I've been around here for 3 years and nobody has ever said they left because of AoV or Jester.
Most of the people who they get into grudge matches with stay here. Instead, I've had people go back to Reddit, because it was easier to deal with that, then to deal with jew-haters being utterly incessant. A lot of people end up just doing both, because they don't want to deal with the incessant, but occasional jew hatred. They know which thread are going to be populated by ConPro aficionados, and just avoid them.
It can be. It depends on whether or not there are activist factions wholly dedicated to derailing entire forums into one and only one topic, particularly with a Leftist bent.
Put it like this: I put up that "5 post maximum" rule 3 years ago because a Tulsi Gabbard shill account and Andrenal were posting 30-50 posts a day, combined. I actually had to take action there because they were derailing the entire fucking sub to a point that was out of control. People couldn't even find their own posts. They acquiesced to it and life improved. There are dedicated efforts to push shit that destroys forums. I don't care about basic opinions of individuals, but the insane collectivist action and mind-virus level the behavior of racial progressives is something different than just an opinion.
People pushing those oppositional-dialectics aren't just "some people". They are ideologically possessed lunatics on a rampage. If they were normal people, they'd work within the rules. It really isn't that hard. Several of them do because they aren't total fucking retards. The rest are so ideologically driven by this oppositional-dialectic that they will never act outside of it, in defiance to it, and will only interpret all information within it.
Leftists aren't people, not as we normally understand them to be. They are literally possessed by an ideology. Even a shill makes more sense.
And I left KIA2 reddit because the leftovers there were insufferable hugboxes. Does my opinion count? Does this problem deserve special exception attention? Or is it again, only in this one topic where it gets special exception attention?
So now its all a huge conspiracy to take over. Very rational. Just like every single person who downvotes Imp is a ConPro shill following him around to derail his gospel.
That's an apolitical action. It has no personal bias and is applied evenly and fairly. Which is all I want to get to the bottom of. Why is this topic so special beyond "because it is."
So when is there going to be an active action taken against misogyny then? Because everything you said applies to Imp, and myself to a more restrained amount. Again, everything you say makes sense but its only applied on this one topic.
I'm not a stormfag, and my posting and browsing would change almost 0% if it was all banned. I simply cannot stand inconsistency.
that is literally a faggot leftoid argument for censorship.
No, that would be about "harm" that speech causes to an individual.
Define "sane" because I don't think anyone here is fucking close to it.
People who aren't glowfags or people who aren't stuck in an oppositional-dialectic metanarrative.
I got banned (fer a day), as far as I can tell, for using the acronym for Zionist Occupation Government, which I guess sounds bad in acronym. This was not explicit, but I guess don't do that. That's all I can figure when I do that and get banned.
Yup, there was a whole thread about that, or a similar issue. Dom really didn't make a compelling point for how ZOG was banworthy, but other attacks were not.
ZOG is apparently attacking an entire identity group, but nigger or fag isn't, even though it all depends on who's reading what into it. But, hey "The issue with ZOG is what it already pre-supposes because it is an acronym," according to Dom.
I, for one, am totally convinced. It's an acronym, so pack it in, boys.
For the record, I come at this from a free speech angle, not indiscriminate Jew hatred. I just think it's a really bad argument.
I don't really care and would settle for understanding the rules. I have never supposed this is a forum without rules.
Tho i can't resist saying I see that thing as akin to the "Illuminati" or masons. If you say something about freemasons, are you attacking a whole religion as conspiratorial, or are you merely pointing out that a secretive group is secretive? The term Zionist itself gives you an indication that not all jews because not all jews are Zionists. It's one of the bigger splits within that religion. To say "Zionists" represents all jews would be like saying Shiites represent all Muslims.
And not all Zionists are Jews.
It's beyond stupid to claim that "ZOG" is in some special category when it comes to "attacking identity groups." But, somehow, that's the openly stated mod decision.
Zion is at the very least a conspiracy between Christians and Jews. Probably against the Muslims. The eternal, fraternal fight that that is.
I don't think the issue is religion, but rather that these people have a hatred of Jews based on race.
GAE (Global American Empire): fine. Attacking Americans in general: fine.
ZOG: verboten.
I never use either one, personally, but it still seems pretty stupid to me.
I even specified GAE as Gay American Empire, and was corrected to Global, and told it wasn't the same. So even if you specify a Gay conspiracy, that's fine, but a Jewish conspiracy is beyond the pale.
Globalists are ideologues.
Like I said, Gays are not the target of GAE. Not even "Americans" are the target in that acronym.
But, if I specifically say that that I'm referencing the Gay American Empire, is that against the rules? Stop changing what I'm saying. I'm not saying all instances of GAE are a gay identity attack, but if I specifically say what it stands for in my use at that time of posting, is that banworthy?
I don't like the Gay American Empire, I think their influence is toxic on society.
So are Zionists.
As in what? That term is not commonly used. I don't have enough information to make a decision because your the only one using that term.
If you say: "Kill the Wibblesnogs!" I have no idea what that means because you just made it up.
If you believe that they are actually an ideology. A Judeo-Bolshevist literally does not accept that there is a difference between Jews and Bolsheviks. The terms are interchanable to them. Race creates culture. Jewishness creates Bolshevism. Hence, we have to look for context clues and user history to gain any sort of understanding about what they are talking about when they talk about Zionism. Are they actually referring to Zionists as an ideological progressive, nationalist, movement? Or are they simply doing the same thing as a Judeo-Bolshevist idealogue? Again, to those same people: all Jews are Zionists without exception. Race creates culture. Jewishness creates Zionism. 1:1.
Considering, like many ideologies, they have a plethora of ideological dogwhistles and memes for themselves, you can use those to better understand the context of the argument.
And one those memes... is ZOG. And it has been for a long time.
It should be fairly self explanatory, though, I should think. The former, of course. Not your nonsense which is in no way a reasonable comparison.
Say I say that I don't like that the Gays control the world? Is that banworthy? What if I say I don't like that the Jews control the world? For the record, I don't like how much influence either group holds.
Plenty of non-Jews will openly declare themselves Zionists. This is silly.
Again with the mindreading. I don't care what 'some people' think, that's a terrible basis for moderation practices.
Again, emphasis on "to them." Don't care.
Oh hell no, that sounds terrifying.
Who the fuck cares?
Still. Do. Not. Care.
And?
Which is exactly why I push for "equal enforcement".
I want it enforced equally (not at all) for everyone.
What is the 'unequal enforcement'?
The jannies here continue to prove themselves no different to inbreddit. Apparently, posting a quote saying a group of people don't like being named as the group they're apart of (shout out to the midwit claiming it's "Intentional Falsehood") and saying that a group of people prioritizing what they're born as over where they're born is "Identity Attacks", it should be clear what's going on here. Feel free to show me all the bans being handed out for people talking about how "trannies need to face the wall" and how "all gay men were molested". Until then, feel free to keep doing it for free.
EDIT: DoM refuses to show the receipts to what I said. Make of that what you will.
Weird how saying a group of people don't like being named is apparently a "falsehood" yet look how vitriolic the reaction is.
After reading this I still have no idea what happened here. As usual, however, the Jews are at fault
Nah I'll defend Dom over other jannies. I appreciate him doing a job that most people don't want to do, and i don't usually get banned so nananana boo boo I guess.
You're lying about the removal. It wasn't about "not liking" it was that you were pushing Gobbels claim that jews were an inherent race of inferiors, who sought to destroy nations through degeneracy and subversion, and would stop at nothing in their quest to kill civilization.
Stop lying.
If that was the case, you'd have reposted my comment wholesale.
But sure, I'll remember this the next time I see comments about how "rainbow niggers/pastel niggers/sand niggers/jungle niggers/rice niggers/potato niggers/maple niggers/vodka niggers/taco niggers are pushing an agenda of subversion to destroy society". Apparently, of all the groups on the face of the Earth, there's only one single group of people you're not allowed to claim have an in-group preference and work together to change the laws to suit them. Point out how the Chinese are using their influence to enrich themselves? Perfectly fine. Point out how anyone with dark skin will prefer people of similar flesh tone? Go for it. But there's one group you're not allowed to mention.
Fantastic, don't forget to actually report them if you want them removed.
Talk about in-group preference: acceptable for all groups
Racial conspiracy to change national law to allow them to dominate the world: bannable for all groups
I've repeatedly said this would apply to "The Patriarchy" and "White Supremacy", but there aren't any Leftists to argue those points in order to get banned.
That depends on what you are saying. Can a Chinese person do that: yes. (no sanction). Is Sinoification a long-standing policy of multiple Chinese government: yes (no action). Are the Chinese seeking, as a race, to demographically dominate the world: No (and actionable).
Literally never actionable.
Like the site is that fucking busy.
You're right, instead it's about "The Homosexual Agenda" and how "The Gays" are working together so they can fuck your kids. Despite being gay myself, I don't report those comments because I know a) shutting down conversations makes me a fucking cuck, b) engaging with people in dialogue is a more effective way at change, c) I'm not a little bitch who cries about people calling me names.
Still waiting for you to post that quote, but the way.
Normally it's about queers rather than gays.
Dispirate Impact, father-fucker.
Do not fucking expect me to give you equal outcomes when you refuse to ask for those outcomes in the appropriate manner, regardless of actual number of violations.
Since you're a mod, let me simply it for you:
The issue is not that comments aren't being removed.
The issue is that comments are being removed for wrong-think.
You keep say this like the world's gayest mantra as if it means anything to anyone without a brain parasite.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Rule 16 is actually necessary to prevent the intentional balkanization and radicalization that Progressive Identity Politics promotes in every and all circumstances in order to deceive and recruit people into accepting pure ideological meta-narratives
Your argument has been about demanding to address Disparate Impact (Equality of Outcome) in rule enforcement regardless of the number of violations being made or being reported. That is never going to happen. I will never be able to remove enough anti-white comments in the sub compared to anti-jew comments in the sub because they'll never be in the same amount.
Transgenderism is not a legitimate identity, in fact it is no identity at all.
You know full well that's not what's being said.
of course, it's a reddit mod. you can't un-retard it.
Jannies should kill themselves.
Comment Reported for: Rule 2 - Violent speech (x2)
Ha ha ha. Nah, fuck that. I'm leaving this comment up because I was already told in this thread that this doesn't happen.
Ah so it's race wide but not gender wide, because attacking half of humanity for your sexual frustration is a-ok, but discussing the actual humans that actually own x, y, z, well less than 2% the population, is blaming an entire race for a racewide conspilpul pilpul pilpul pilpul and therefore banned
Oh AND you're an evil stormcuck! Yes, from our "name blame and hate literally half of humanity" moral high chair, we look down our noses at you dirty "angry at the actual actions of the actual owner" scum and your dirty >2%-blamer ways! These "you can just literally look up their names lmao" stormcucks have no moral or intellectual standing!
Interestingly enough, the effect is apparent in plain sight here. A user who represents less than 2% of this forum considers himself the owner, maintains a system of entirely personal ethnicity driven preference, and would rather you blame something like 50%of the users for discussing plain reality.
Also, this one guy (I think it's just him, here?) is gonna become more odious as his tribe loses the war on the internet proper, eventually bringing you to Great Awakening levels of cringe and policing in order to maintain the political narratives they selectively manufacture, unless it is all forcibly eschewed by some populist mechanism.
oh uh, all the above an individual basis, tho, of course, in accordance to the rule
It's not even race-wide, since even there it's not applied equally. Any slur against Jews will be assumed to mean all Jews, and thus a violation of Rule 16*, but terms like "nigger" are somehow fine.
I thought we didn't believe in hate speech here?! I don't care if it's a slur or not, people should be able to say it. Talk shit about Jews, blacks, whites, who the fuck cares? They're words. I'm not arguing "stormcuckry" is polite, but it is speech, and I don't think rules should be used in a targeted fashion against certain speech.
Mods need to butt the fuck out. It's a nonissue.
* Rule 16, again for the people in the back, is pants-on-head retarded to begin with, and needs to be abolished. No one likes or wants it, and there's no pressure from the site to have it in effect. But that's a separate issue, thus the footnote.
That's weird, because I've approved comments which called jews kikes.
Quit making shit up.
You went off for a whole thread about how certain attacks were deemed R16 violations when regarding Jews, while other similar attacks weren't. Your logic didn't hold up.
Also, I'm not who you seem to think I am; I just like free speech, and true equality. I think there are some issues with "the Jews," but I'm not heavy into it.
And R16 is and always will be retarded, and needs to be done away with. Moderate calls to violence, spam, porn, but otherwise leave off. I couldn't give a shit if people are rude, up to and including attacking "identity groups," whatever the fuck that is.
I don't do that shit, bitch. Never have, never will. Heck, I often get downvoted for being too nuanced.
You've said yourself you don't want to be a heavy handed moderator...well, nothing is saying you have to be. Just chill out.
Not sure where you get off coming after me, especially in mod voice. And especially since we've generally gotten along. I'm saying my opinion, I think it's backed up by actions, and I stand by said opinion.
Fine.
I apologize for making you angry. My issue is that every single one of these "Rule 16" threads is entirely around bad faith arguments about how I would never in my life enforce Rule 16 equally because I hate white people and I'm jew. Normally coming from people who explicitly support censorship, hate free expression, and would harass anyone who disagreed with them, going well past the point of telling them to kill themselves.
What I see from you is the same false claim. That I don't enforce Rule 16 against anything but Jews, despite it literally being a daily question in my life that I actually work at to make sure I enforce equally.
My problem is that: "Fuck you, you're just a fucking kike nigger-lover that wants to replace white people, kill yourself." is a really grating response from people who are diametrically opposed to any sort of honest conversation and uncensored. And would be happy putting a bullet in my fucking head after saying that they are not the avatars of white people.
That is not your response, and you honestly believe your complaint to be true, but it is false. It is one of many false complaints that I get, mostly from people with the intention of turning KiA into a racist shithole, and driving you off the forum for being a "jewish enabler".
I'm speaking in my mod voice because I'm giving explanations to my moderating behavior. It's not a threat.
I'm at most mildly annoyed by your continual bullshit, but sure.
Says you. No one has ever liked R16, from the very beginning. It was always Reddit-tier crap, and didn't belong here. It's still absurd we even have sixteen rules, much less the content in them. Leftists, rightists...people who think they can read minds piss me off, regardless of political affiliation. R16 is bad, criticism of R16 is often warranted.
Way to go to the extreme...
Ad hominem. Are some of these people hypocrites? Probably. Doesn't change the argument. Again, stop reading into things that aren't there.
I hope the Hot Pockets are worth it. Also, I never said that, you're once again going to the extremes. I think you might overly enforce it against Da Jews, but I never said exclusively.
Oh, fucking chill. Once again, going to the extreme. Do you get much of that? Have any of the recent threads been about that? Has the OP in any of the recent threads threatened your life? If yes, provide receipts. If not, it's just more bullshit emotional redirection. Again, we're about free speech. Just be as hands off as possible, and leave your personal shit out of it. Simple.
Again, says you, Mindreader.
Never said it was a threat. Said it was weird you saying I was lying, when I'm clearly not.
TL;DR: Chill the fuck out, man.
Fine. I apologize anyway.
Literally a regular occurrence. Just about every other day or so. Nothing extreme about it.
It's the same base premise: The rule is never enforced equally, despite it being enforced equally.
I don't have to intentionally be retarded so that I can pretend that I don't understand things that are self-evident. When someone is ideologically possessed, you don't need to read minds, you already know what they think if you know their ideology, especially when they are advocating that ideology or from that ideology.
This is what the NPC meme is about. The ideologically captured are predictable because the ideology is predictable.
"Kill yourself" is not a threat.
I'm doing my own mindreading and deciding it sounded passive aggressive. You apologized for "making me angry," when I criticized you. But, if it was legitimate, sure, thank you.
You keep saying that. It's not as compelling as you think it is. Again, why is "nigger" or "fag" allowed? Plenty would consider it "intentionally retarded" to not view those as identity attacks.
I'm not asking you to be retarded. I'm just asking you to be more hands off, as I think some of these enforcements are extremely silly and unnecessary. That's it, that's all there is.
Aight, people you don't agree with are NPCs, and their opinions can be discarded.
A) Then stop bitching. B) You didn't address my question. Have any of the recent OPs told you to kill yourself, or is this some strawman bullshit?
Funny considering how one of my comments you removed was about how you can call a Jew any number of slurs but apparently they don't enjoy being called a Jew. Curious.
I have never once removed a single comment from this forum for someone calling someone a jew, even if they aren't jews. Never. In fact, I've explicitly told White Nationalists "you can call people jews" while they were echo-posting because they thought they couldn't.
I removed your post because Gobbels quote was about how jews are inherently inferior and trying to destroy civilization.
Which one? Post it in full. Highlight the part where it "calls Jews inherently inferior and trying to destroy civilization".
No. At this point, let's be honest, what you are doing is trolling me so I post the Gobbels quote for you; as if you were having an honest conversation.
You're making shit up about what I said and refusing to back it up but have the fucking balls to claims that I'm the one not having an honest conversation? Maybe the actual reason isn't that I'm "trolling you". Maybe it's because you know I have it screencapped and can show proof if you tried to fucking lie.
For the sheer amount of shit he keeps on spamming he'd be banned anywhere.
It doesn't even matter if his obsession is women.
If hotdogs were his thing and he replied every thread talking about how hotdogs are awesome, with several replies, frequently derailing threads into hotdog discussion, he would still be banned anywhere. What he does is nothing more than spamming.
One thing I've noticed in many political/personality/drama/identity forums is that a village idiot is often tolerated to give the other members a communal punching bag. Impy is more monotonous spam than idiot, but his un-nuanced monocausal obsession crosses the duncehat threshold. I don't pay close attention here 75% of the year, but I haven't noticed any other persistent derailers. Tolerating blatantly IQ-damaging commentators who don't outright break rules will sink any community.
Let's ask Impy about that. Oh wait, he's been banned for 24 days for this exact fucking reason.
What about all of the attacks on white women? Are those not identity based attacks worthy of banning?
Yes, they are worth banning if they are pushing the idea that white women are operating as a collective cabal, or are inherently morally inferior.
That's why Imp was banned, again.
But look, if you don't report it, I'm probably not going to see it. And yes, sometimes I miss shit. That's my bad. Thing is, if it violates the rules, it violates the rules.
For the third time in almost as many months or something. Plus however many times before that. Almost like it's a character feature with him which begs the question why bother just keep banning him over and over instead of letting him stew in his personal board forever. 🙄
Because I try to keep the same approach with removals as everyone else. Increasing ban times that allow for people to make adjustments if they so chose. And they have the ability to come back and try again later if they aren't a full-scale utter fuck-up.
I don't "remove comments for racism". I remove them for violating Rule 16. And yes, that happens in regards to blacks. I think I just did one yesterday.
Jester hasn't posted to this place in months. He's fucking gone, dude. In fact, he specifically told me he was going to stop posting because it wasn't worth his time to come here and engage against jew haters because he wasn't getting enough support from the sub or me.
So yeah, your perception of the world is wrong.
You've got it all backwards. There is no jew-philliac police force, dude. I don't know what to tell you.
Replying separately instead of editing to add that I' shaking my fucking head at the mod of a gamergate forum who would rather ban users for badmouthing women than let le heckin hatred spread.
How long did the forum collectively spend bitching about the nonexistence of hate speech, coping with gamergaters being treated as a hate group, and about how the mods at reddit were selectively deleting posts and enforcing rules?
Are you smelling what I'm cooking, here? Seriously. It is all just so transparent and clear and cyclical.
Yknow people change over time and sometimes they discover they feel differently about stuff than they thought they did. Sometimes they find that suddenly they no longer fuckin belong! It is sad and yet majestic, it's life and growth and in my opinion it could fill the body of "goodbye cruel forum" letter that would leave free human expression enjouers everywhere teary eyed.
This is not hate speech. I have never accused anyone of hate speech. I already replied to you about Conquest's Second Law elsewhere.
No one in GamerGate ever argued that "Women in gaming was a strategy imposed by women to eradicate men's spaces, as part of their sexual war on men, and their innate inferiority as a sub-species." If you remember correctly, we had a "#NotYourShield" campaign to explicitly reject the oppositional-dialectic that the SJWs were using to defend themselves.
You're trying to argue that GamerGate was about needing to express how much we hate women, when it was a consumer revolt against corruption, fraud, and nepotism.
unjustly.
justify your continued pushing of reddit-tier rules on this non-reddit website.
If world class propagandists cant pull it off with the general public what makes you think the effort is so appropriate with gamergaters. Why not release the Imp and then allow people to commit thought crime?
If your opinion is that decorum (as seen by you) trumps expression, then why do you feel it is appropriate to be a mod here where the values are completely inverted from that?
I sound capricious saying so but reddit is n dire need of mods with values that jive with yours and there is a vacuum there. It feels like you fled to escape exactly what you are doing. You wanted to badmouth women and trannies at a level that reddit suppressed and you moved here, where people want to badmouth jews at a level that you suppress. It is hypocritical.
World class propagandists have institutionalized it into every history book in the US. Fuck, sociology didn't believe that "Left Wing Authoritarianism" was physically possible for *decades.
Decorum doesn't trump expression, because expression isn't silenced by decorum restrictions. Viewpoints can't be prevented with basic decorum.
I wanted a place where dissent can exist. I literally have a fucking Kafka Rule that AoV was perma-banned for violating, that I can't tell anyone what it is because that's why he got banned. Fuck, KIA 1 had to just ban all conversations on transgenderism because it's too fucking risky. I didn't come here because "I hate women" or whatever.
The limitation is on Leftist meta-narratives (because Robert Conquest's 2nd Rule), glowie nonsense, and basic-bitch forum clean up (like no porn). This shit isn't hard to deal with. Just focus on making arguments that don't revolve around dialect-oppositional meta-narratives, and you're good.
we were never asked
Did they call you right?
Post Reported for: Rule 3 - Harassment
Post Approved: This doesn't do that. It's a complaint of moderation.
OY VEY?! DID (((I))) APPROVE YOUR POST! IT MUST BE BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE A (((JEW)))! QUICK CHECK YOUR EARLY LIFE!
Ridiculous.
Huh, didn't realize I'd logged into HalfKiA.
Meanwhile, I literally just removed a comment that slandered Polish people.
The fact that you literally won't ever stop screaming at the top of your lungs about jews all the time is not "selective enforcement". Your always seeking to violate that specific rule, and you are always seeking to violate it in regards to almost total exclusivity of any other targets.
Don't give me any "disparate impact" nonsense. Almost no one on this sub every attacks white people as a race of biological and moral inferiors, so I don't have to remove any comments regarding it. Same with hindus.
You select the targets, therefore you get the enforcement.
And you probably shouldn't have done that either. If people want to hate on the Poles, they should be able to. Who get's hurt?
Once again, the issue is not "harm". The issue is the intentional balkanization and radicalization that Progressive Identity Politics promotes in every and all circumstances in order to deceive and recruit people into accepting pure ideological meta-narratives.
Yeah, people tend to drive the speed limit when a cop is tailing them.
And yes, how dare I mention Jews in a post about a highly-influential Jewish sexologist that created modern day transgender ideology. Obviously, that means I'm obsessed.
Asskickings don't just fall from the sky.
Literally still Disparate Impact.
Cops are gonna pull black people over in places where black people both congregate and break the law.
I'm going to enforce Rule 16 more on WN's if they are going to congregate and violate the rule.
No shit.
Being wrong is not against the rules.
Literally espousing Judeo-Bolshevism & Judeo-Capitalism is.