It was created from the start out of Dom's, and Antonio's influence leftover from reddit if I had to assume, fear of Stormfags and their apparent insidious ability to just steal communities from under you if they are allowed to speak.
Most of the rules we have now only exist for that reason. Because speaking bad about the Jews is a magically corrupting influence that will kill us all. Certainly all these draconian measures (and the well reasoned and level headed arguments of the pro-semites) would never push a lot of neutral parties more onto that Stormy side, surely.
fear of Stormfags and their apparent insidious ability to just steal communities from under you if they are allowed to speak.
They invade any place that allows free speech, and drive out anyone remotely sensible. How many people do you think want to post in a place where half the comments are about how much some idiots hate Jews?
Whether you are or not, there's no disputing that this is what happens to every forum that allows Stormfags.
And Stormfags are able to say that "X bad thing" is what happens you allow Jews to act unimpeded. They are usually right when they say that too, even if its just unrelated correlation that means nothing instead of an actual causation.
Working backwards from the result will always give you the answer you want it to say.
Nah, I try to limit such things precisely because I know that it's annoying to other people.
Well I can appreciate the self awareness and will cease to use it as a point if you are making an active effort to do so for our sakes.
It's mostly for the fact that they are Leftists that will always argue in bad faith and will never, under any circumstance stop pushing their propaganda, even to the point of openly calling for violence and genocide, hoping to attract the attention of law enforcement, and driving sane users away.
This position only works if you had banned people like DrJester and even Antonio for getting into endless bad faith slapfights with people that did nothing but drive people away regardless of their position relative to them.
You can't keep trotting out this line when you only enforce it sometimes. If your rules aren't enforced evenly, they aren't rules. They are suggestions and protections for people you like.
And yet not a single solitary soul has said a word to me about being driven away by Dr. Jester or AoV. Just that they hate them. The same can't be said about the Stormfags. Somewhere under 6 or so people have come to me on both Reddit and .win and said something akin to: "This place is filled with anti-semites, if you can't purge them, I gotta go. It's exhausting / they never stop / it's in literally every post / I didn't think it would be that bad, but it's really toxic / I can't just argue with them forever."
That's why VOAT ended up the way it did. Even the fucking Poal admins, who were some of the original VOAT admins said the same shit: they spiral wildly out of control, and it's the only thing they ever talk about, it becomes a complete shithole, typically filled with actual feds who also keep stirring the pot.
It's actually why they invented that cool user hierarchy system. Privileges in each section and forum-wide were dished out via your experience posting and approval. Unfortunately, it didn't totally help because the whole user base was basically former VOAT users who had nowhere else to go.
This isn't just bickering. This oppositional-dialectic poisons people's minds. The ideological incantations are so repetitive (intentionally) that it warps your perception of reality. Not too unlike what porn or gore footage does when over-used. All I've seen from AoV is him get into his usual grudge matches with specific people; not craft a meta-narrative. Jester is a proud anti-anti-semite that seems to be on a genuine crusade in response to this dialectic, but his strategy clearly doesn't work all that well.
And, this isn't about "people I like". I have enforced our rules on those two, and they didn't care for it. Fuck, I've literally enforced the rules on me, to the surprise of AoV who checked the mod logs once and said, "You removed your own comment? I've always wondered if you were a robot."
And yet not a single solitary soul has said a word to me about being driven away
Yes because they just left. This is a dumb barometer and its insulting to your own intelligence that you thought to use it.
Somewhere under 6 or so people have come to me on both Reddit and .win and said
So if enough people came to you whining about the homophobia and racism and transphobia causing them to stop posting, you would consider it a real problem? Or is this just a special exception? Because it sounds like you are just making a special exception.
This oppositional-dialectic poisons people's minds.
Well I can say for certain I didn't believe an inch about stormfaggotry or their conspiracies until I continued to see people argue with them like ranting loons, and then continued special exceptions be made against them as if they were an actual corrupting evil.
The fact that you typed 5 paragraphs to justify yourself and bend into fucking knots about how some people just don't deserve the same rights as others because they might be problematic, should be a wake up call to yourself about how lost in the sauce you are.
If they are that bad just make a fucking direct rule about it and ban them. Stop being a pussy with your half vague measures and just own up to what you clearly want to do anyway.
It was created from the start out of Dom's, and Antonio's influence leftover from reddit if I had to assume, fear of Stormfags and their apparent insidious ability to just steal communities from under you if they are allowed to speak.
Most of the rules we have now only exist for that reason. Because speaking bad about the Jews is a magically corrupting influence that will kill us all. Certainly all these draconian measures (and the well reasoned and level headed arguments of the pro-semites) would never push a lot of neutral parties more onto that Stormy side, surely.
They invade any place that allows free speech, and drive out anyone remotely sensible. How many people do you think want to post in a place where half the comments are about how much some idiots hate Jews?
I'm sure we are much better off having you getting into petty slapfights with them being half the comments in some threads instead.
But that's not a problem, because its what you like and thereby its actually redefined as a good thing.
Whether you are or not, there's no disputing that this is what happens to every forum that allows Stormfags.
Nah, I try to limit such things precisely because I know that it's annoying to other people.
And Stormfags are able to say that "X bad thing" is what happens you allow Jews to act unimpeded. They are usually right when they say that too, even if its just unrelated correlation that means nothing instead of an actual causation.
Working backwards from the result will always give you the answer you want it to say.
Well I can appreciate the self awareness and will cease to use it as a point if you are making an active effort to do so for our sakes.
It's mostly for the fact that they are Leftists that will always argue in bad faith and will never, under any circumstance stop pushing their propaganda, even to the point of openly calling for violence and genocide, hoping to attract the attention of law enforcement, and driving sane users away.
This position only works if you had banned people like DrJester and even Antonio for getting into endless bad faith slapfights with people that did nothing but drive people away regardless of their position relative to them.
You can't keep trotting out this line when you only enforce it sometimes. If your rules aren't enforced evenly, they aren't rules. They are suggestions and protections for people you like.
And yet not a single solitary soul has said a word to me about being driven away by Dr. Jester or AoV. Just that they hate them. The same can't be said about the Stormfags. Somewhere under 6 or so people have come to me on both Reddit and .win and said something akin to: "This place is filled with anti-semites, if you can't purge them, I gotta go. It's exhausting / they never stop / it's in literally every post / I didn't think it would be that bad, but it's really toxic / I can't just argue with them forever."
That's why VOAT ended up the way it did. Even the fucking Poal admins, who were some of the original VOAT admins said the same shit: they spiral wildly out of control, and it's the only thing they ever talk about, it becomes a complete shithole, typically filled with actual feds who also keep stirring the pot.
It's actually why they invented that cool user hierarchy system. Privileges in each section and forum-wide were dished out via your experience posting and approval. Unfortunately, it didn't totally help because the whole user base was basically former VOAT users who had nowhere else to go.
This isn't just bickering. This oppositional-dialectic poisons people's minds. The ideological incantations are so repetitive (intentionally) that it warps your perception of reality. Not too unlike what porn or gore footage does when over-used. All I've seen from AoV is him get into his usual grudge matches with specific people; not craft a meta-narrative. Jester is a proud anti-anti-semite that seems to be on a genuine crusade in response to this dialectic, but his strategy clearly doesn't work all that well.
And, this isn't about "people I like". I have enforced our rules on those two, and they didn't care for it. Fuck, I've literally enforced the rules on me, to the surprise of AoV who checked the mod logs once and said, "You removed your own comment? I've always wondered if you were a robot."
We all live under a crafted meta-narrative mate. We all do our part to enforce it from time to time, without even realizing.
Yes because they just left. This is a dumb barometer and its insulting to your own intelligence that you thought to use it.
So if enough people came to you whining about the homophobia and racism and transphobia causing them to stop posting, you would consider it a real problem? Or is this just a special exception? Because it sounds like you are just making a special exception.
Well I can say for certain I didn't believe an inch about stormfaggotry or their conspiracies until I continued to see people argue with them like ranting loons, and then continued special exceptions be made against them as if they were an actual corrupting evil.
The fact that you typed 5 paragraphs to justify yourself and bend into fucking knots about how some people just don't deserve the same rights as others because they might be problematic, should be a wake up call to yourself about how lost in the sauce you are.
If they are that bad just make a fucking direct rule about it and ban them. Stop being a pussy with your half vague measures and just own up to what you clearly want to do anyway.
that is literally a faggot leftoid argument for censorship.
No, that would be about "harm" that speech causes to an individual.
Define "sane" because I don't think anyone here is fucking close to it.
People who aren't glowfags or people who aren't stuck in an oppositional-dialectic metanarrative.