"If the concern is state control over children's minds," he added, "it's worth noting that even if a child attends public school, parents will have exclusive control over 80 percent of the child's awake life."
He suggested that "if parents cannot, in that other 80 percent ... communicate their views, discuss them with the child, explain why they as parents think differently ... then I wonder what's going on in the family."
Is this guy retarded? If a woman is being raped only 20% of the time she has no reason to complain because 80% of the time she isn't being raped, right?
This is where it helps to have a moral compass. If a person argues to a point that's basically offensive, such as parents being subjugate to the state, you are well and immediately inclined to consider the opposing view.
This logic also doesn't work in numerous shithole states or other similar grooming-obsessed countries like Canada. If you communicate and express certain views to your child, and the child mentions it around or to a teacher (or any other groomer in a position of power), you can have child services called on you and your children taken away, with no recourse but to kneel to the lady dick mafia.
Add to that, as we’ve seen in some of the conflicts between students and teachers pushing LGBT shit, the teachers get really really mad if the ideas passed on to the kids by parents during the 80% time conflict with those ideas the teachers are trying to implant during the 20% time. The Canadian teachers literally told students that if they believe in the 80%-time ideas (Islamic ideals passed down from their Muslim parents), they should leave Canada.
An academic. He's been within institutions his entire life, from Kindergarten to now, as a professor of horseshit. Naturally he sees institutional life as normal and nurturing--he knows nothing else.
It’s not their mindset. Their mindset is, “We want access to, and control over, impressionable children. If we say this, it helps us get what we want.”
These are selfish people without morals who will say anything as long as they think it will benefit them.
Edit: This is also why gotchas don’t work on the left.
The state needs to be the ultimate guarantor of a child's wellbeing!
Ohhohoho that's fucking rich. Yeah, why don't you go right on ahead and take a little peak into the institution of foster care and you tell me what the "state" can guarantee for the children. Anyone have faith in the system? Anyone? The only thing they can guarantee is their fat bottomline.
State's a damned rich kid clownshow over who's moneylaundering schemes and lobbying takes priority - they don't care about the finer details about what happens at groundlevel. These people and their lawyers need to be tossed into woodchippers rather than be given interviews.
This is a whole new level of insanely nonsensical rhetoric that defies any sense of logic or reasoning. Like fuck do parents only have a relationship with their kids because of the state. What, offspring were never a thing before civilization?
It's the exact inverse of reality. Parents have ALLOWED the state (for a century or two) to take part in the process of helping to raise and educate children, entirely contingent on what decisions the parents decide to make. Outside of social services bullshit, the state has no jurisdiction over what those decisions entail, so long as those decisions don't somehow violate other existing laws.
There needs to be some equivalent to the concepts of exile and penal colonies where we can just completely disconnect these people from the outside world.
Because of course, childbirth is something people only do deliberately and after being taught. No one has them through an instinctual act gone awry or out of sheer lizard brained desire.
Nah, its all society and the government creating children. Without those evils, people wouldn't ever have a single one!
Did you know: the state has mamaries and feeds babies? Women only have breasts because the state allows them to.
"the reason parent-child relationships exist is because the state confers legal parenthood on people through its paternity and maternity laws," adding that "it is the state that is empowering parents to do anything with children; to take them home, to have custody, and to make any kind of decision about that."
The more I see of the modern world, the more I think we need to return to whatever worked 15 or even 40 thousand years ago. The further we stray from that the worse things become.
Is this guy retarded? If a woman is being raped only 20% of the time she has no reason to complain because 80% of the time she isn't being raped, right?
Who the hell comes up with that logic?
This is where it helps to have a moral compass. If a person argues to a point that's basically offensive, such as parents being subjugate to the state, you are well and immediately inclined to consider the opposing view.
This logic also doesn't work in numerous shithole states or other similar grooming-obsessed countries like Canada. If you communicate and express certain views to your child, and the child mentions it around or to a teacher (or any other groomer in a position of power), you can have child services called on you and your children taken away, with no recourse but to kneel to the lady dick mafia.
Add to that, as we’ve seen in some of the conflicts between students and teachers pushing LGBT shit, the teachers get really really mad if the ideas passed on to the kids by parents during the 80% time conflict with those ideas the teachers are trying to implant during the 20% time. The Canadian teachers literally told students that if they believe in the 80%-time ideas (Islamic ideals passed down from their Muslim parents), they should leave Canada.
An academic. He's been within institutions his entire life, from Kindergarten to now, as a professor of horseshit. Naturally he sees institutional life as normal and nurturing--he knows nothing else.
lol. "Only animals raise their own offspring, you don't want to be like an animal, do you?" That's their mindset.
It’s not their mindset. Their mindset is, “We want access to, and control over, impressionable children. If we say this, it helps us get what we want.”
These are selfish people without morals who will say anything as long as they think it will benefit them.
Edit: This is also why gotchas don’t work on the left.
I guess if you follow this obsession with being cultured or artificial to its natural conclusion, you become a robot rather than an animal.
I mean, his forebears, Dewey and Wilson, wanted automatons.
Ohhohoho that's fucking rich. Yeah, why don't you go right on ahead and take a little peak into the institution of foster care and you tell me what the "state" can guarantee for the children. Anyone have faith in the system? Anyone? The only thing they can guarantee is their fat bottomline.
State's a damned rich kid clownshow over who's moneylaundering schemes and lobbying takes priority - they don't care about the finer details about what happens at groundlevel. These people and their lawyers need to be tossed into woodchippers rather than be given interviews.
This is a whole new level of insanely nonsensical rhetoric that defies any sense of logic or reasoning. Like fuck do parents only have a relationship with their kids because of the state. What, offspring were never a thing before civilization?
It's the exact inverse of reality. Parents have ALLOWED the state (for a century or two) to take part in the process of helping to raise and educate children, entirely contingent on what decisions the parents decide to make. Outside of social services bullshit, the state has no jurisdiction over what those decisions entail, so long as those decisions don't somehow violate other existing laws.
Absolute batshit insanity.
"If you don't bring it up, what do you think will happen?"
That is the dumbest thing I've read from a lawyer since this from a court transcript about 15 years or so ago.
Lawyer: "Are you sure he was dead when you did the autopsy?"
Coroner: "His brain was on my desk."
Lawyer: "But were you certain he was dead?"
Coroner: "Are you.... He's serious your honor? ... It might be possible he was alive and practicing law in this state."
Please tell me that wasn't real.
Please tell me it was!
yet again there it is: our children are apparently the property of the state
literally kill yourself, communist.
in real life.
We developed pair-bonding to enforce parental responsibilities before anyone had ever heard of a government.
Burn down the universities who peddle this filth, for they are agents of evil.
"we're com-ing for you-r child-ren~!"
There needs to be some equivalent to the concepts of exile and penal colonies where we can just completely disconnect these people from the outside world.
All.
Absolutely unhinged, and this is coming from someone who thinks parenthood is one of the biggest mistakes a man can make.
At least your insanity will die with you.
Thanks. I was being cordial, that was uncalled for.
I don't think my "insanity" will die with me. I think at this point most men aren't considering having kids.
It is entirely warranted. You preach suicide.
I don't think I've ever suggested killing yourself is a good idea.
No, just the entire species.
I love this argument, because I said to avoid them until they treat men better.
You're admitting they won't ever consider that.
The majority won't and are incapable of doing so free of "patriarchal" systems of control.
Even I, the greatest misogynist this side of the Atlantic, have over the replacement number of children.
Besides, most men don't need to consider having kids. Most women are having them for them, with all the genes we really shouldn't be passing on.
You just made an excellent argument against rewarding childbirth.
Because of course, childbirth is something people only do deliberately and after being taught. No one has them through an instinctual act gone awry or out of sheer lizard brained desire.
Nah, its all society and the government creating children. Without those evils, people wouldn't ever have a single one!
100,000 communists at the bottom of the ocean.
Everyone point at the groomer.
Did you know: the state has mamaries and feeds babies? Women only have breasts because the state allows them to.
Go back to the shadows, leftist infidel.
The more I see of the modern world, the more I think we need to return to whatever worked 15 or even 40 thousand years ago. The further we stray from that the worse things become.
How about survivors from the Residential School system, in his own country, during his own lifetime?
Government "guaranteed the wellbeing" of children by literally beating their culture and language out of them.