For me, I don't think he has a chance (because basically only regime-approved candidates do), but I'd be happy in the impossible case that he defeated Biden, because he seems like a decent fellow if a bit naive sometimes.
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He's on the right side of the vax and alphabet agencies (for personal history if nothing else), naive on environmental issues but open to talk and change on these issues to be more in line with reality.
The problem why he'll never get the nomination is two-fold, first he isn't a stooge like Biden and the Deep State REALLY doesn't want a Kennedy in agai especially one that knows they are the enemy. The second is very fickle but that's politics, his voice, for no fault but circumstances, does not have the gravitas necessary to have people listen and hang on his every word. It's unfortunate because he would be a great option to have compared to the demons running especially on the dem side.
This pretty much sums it up. If there's such a thing as a least worst liberal then he's it.
They didn't kill two Kennedys just to have to have this one become president. And there's still a long time for something to go wrong with this one's campaign. A lot of ways for that to happen. Who knows if they're even worried about the campaign. All I'm saying, is they're not going to to let it happen if it were going to happen otherwise.
Dems have super delegates, they're not worried about shit.
He's less wrong than the rest of the Democrats.
If it came down to a vote between him and a neocon, I'd probably pick him.
Any specific neocons you have in mind? I'd love to do some brackets but I'm not enough of a political wonk to care which uniparty stooge gets in, or even research the candidates.
Nobody specific, but it's still early in the campaign. I like DeSantis but some of his support (specifically Bush Jr./Iraq war people) bothers me.
his little israel stunt really turned me off. (no, not because muh joos)
Unless DeSantis does something about the faggots who posted AI generated images as "real life Trump" then he's a non-starter.
To preempt any nonsense, no it's not the same as an obvious meme like DeSantis riding a fucking rhino.
A joke is not the same as a lie.
Donald Trump failed the J6 litmus test by setting up his most ardent supporters to show up to a glowtrap and didn't even pardon them while he pardoned Kushner's dad.
DeSantis has nothing to do with J6. He said he would pardon anyone who was prosecuted in a politically biased and unfair manner.
I'm increasingly becoming convinced that Trump's primary fuck-up was not saying "let's burn this motherfucker down" on day 1. Instead, he thought he was dealing with people who could be reasoned and bargained with in good faith, behaved accordingly, and got burned by it.
Trump’s primary fuck-up was trusting Republicans.
Less likely than average to want to throw me in prison for not getting the vax.
More likely than average to want to throw me in prison for driving a gasoline pickup truck.
Distinction without a difference.
I’m glad that he is gumming up the works in his own small way.
Pointless distraction that Democrats can use to try and 'convince' Moderate and right wing voters to come to their side. RFK Jr. will be the 'centrist' candidate in the media. They'll just paint him as a 'good' Republican and use him as a tool until he eventually drops out after grifting a shitload of cash from moderate donors.
Same with the Indian Republican guy and Chris Christie. No point in concerning yourself with distractions.
DeSantis is probably in this category too, just a tool. No real chance to win, around just to enrich some people and move some votes.
His father was the last person to defeat an incumbent president by demanding a primary.
The deep state took him out by assassinating him.
He has some balls by trying the same challenge again.
I only heard of him for the first time during Covid. He’s a hero for challenging big pharma’s fraud and vaccine safety lies.
He's nutty on a lot of things, but the significance of him is that he is once again exposing the fact that the Democrat Party is totally controlled by elites who control the process & will not allow anyone like him to have anything resembling fair participation.
says some based things but he's still a leftoid
The best Democrat running, by far. Not that that's saying much.
Someone else said something similar, but he's excellent on one or two issues, and as bad or nearly as bad as other libs on many others. Which is too bad, as I'd love a good Dem candidate, so it didn't feel like everything is hanging over the precipice. I'd still take him over Biden, Kamala, et al, in a heartbeat, though.
I really appreciate his presence, if nothing else, and hope he gets on the debate stage. I'm wary of his environmental stances, among others, but overall he's alright, and I think his heart is in the right place, which is a rare thing for a politician.
He is more Teddy Roosevelt on climate/environment than the green agenda NPCs. He's stated a few times that it's the big oligarchs that should be regulated, rather than sticking the middle class/poor with the restrictions.
Where I think he's weak on is 2A and some progressive shit. I don't think he'd push back hard enough against the identitarian bullshit, and certainly will be no help, even antagonistic vs gun rights.
However, he's an outsider to the swamp, and I'll vote for him over any neolib/con.
I'll still vote for Trump or DeSantis if either win the RNC primary. DeSantis I don't know his foreign policy, he might go warmonger to keep the swamp off his back (or just show true colors, who knows?). I like some of the things Vivek Ramaswamy says, but.. I also get the impression he's just bullshitting. I don't have a good read on him yet.
Good, but he's also the one who said 'climate deniers' belong in prison. Huge red flag.
Totally agreed. He's far from the worst, and I'd be relatively happy with him as president, despite my misgivings, compared to many of the other options.
I really don't trust DeSantis. It's weird, since I acknowledge he's definitely one of the better governors, but I've never trusted him, and still can't. I wish he wasn't running, he should just stay in Florida; I don't want him to be president, despite his good deeds and words. He rubs me the wrong way, what can I say? And, yeah, Vivek is a snek, in my opinion. He says the right things, but I can't trust him either. As for Trump...I hate that he's the best option, and I'm no fanboy, but for me it's Trump or bust. For all his flaws, he at least pushes things in a better direction, even unintentionally.
Did he? I thought he was a civil libertarian. At least he sounds like one. If he actually said this, it's crazy.
It's a bit hard to track down, but here's one that's very close. 2014.
If you want to find more info, just look for 'climate deniers robert f kennedy,' 'climate deniers should be locked up,' or similar.
He's focused more on politicians and corporations, than individual people (although I do think he once said something very similar to my original quote, and then walked it back. But it's still ideological totalitarian nonsense.
In his defense, it was a long time ago, and in a emotionally charged environment...but retarded is still retarded.
My point still stands that I think he'd still be a better president than almost all the other retards, but we certainly can't disregard his red flags.
I like RFKjr well enough to vote for him. I just worry about more odious democrats riding his coattails into office.
I respect RFK Jr for fighting hard against the COVID vaxxes.
I don't agree with him on his positions on climate change and gun control.
In a hypothetical general election between RFK Jr. and the GOP nominee, I will vote for the GOP nominee.
What if it were Mitt Romney or Nikki Haley?
In your crackpipe universe where it was RFK Jr. as the Dem nominee vs Romney/Haley as the GOP nominee, I would vote for RFK Jr. while voting downballot GOP.
The Dems won't let RFK Jr. get their nomination.
In reality, the GOP ticket in 2024 will be either DeSantis/Reynolds or Trump/? versus incumbent Biden.
I would vote for DeSantis/Reynolds enthusiastically if he is the nominee and I would hold my nose and begrudgingly still vote for Trump/? if he is the nominee as long as he has a few braincells remaining and he picks anyone else as VP besides Kari Lake or MTG.
Trump would guaranteed lose both North Carolina and Texas with either one of these two psychotic grifters(Lake/MTG) on the ticket,
If we are unlucky enough that Trump becomes the nominee, I pray he is smart enough to pick ANYONE else besides Kari Lake or MTG.
Obviously, it's not going to happen, but I was just wondering.
There are a lot of people who will go GOP because Sean Hannity told them, but you are anti-neocon enough to not do that.
Yes, that's very unfortunate. But I'm at least glad he's the runner-up at the moment, just like I'm glad that Trump and RDS are the top candidates in the GOP.
Trump will win if the economy is bad, he will lose if it is good. All the rest is noise.
Trump might well die because he's old and fat. Or be killed by a whackjob/the deep state. He needs someone who is solid. Not Tim Scott or Nikki Haley. Not MTG either, I agree.
In the sad timeline where Trump becomes the nominee again, objectively Trump's best choice for VP would be Lee Zeldin.
Zeldin has decent optics and he is solid on the issues. He has sucked up to Trump a lot recently so that makes me wonder.
Trump always gets horny over New York so Zeldin being from there is a major plus.
Trump's advisors claim that Trump is considering mainly women for VP.
Sadly all of the women that Trump is considering for VP are dogshit.
He is considering Kari Lake, MTG, Kristi Noem and Elise Stefanik.
Noem and Stefanik suck ass on the issues. Noem is a corporate shill and Stefanik supports mass immigration.
Meanwhile MTG and Kari Lake are so toxic that they would absolutely harm his icket significantly.
We saw from 2022, that the election is not just a referendum on the economy. If it was so, the GOP would have won the Senate.
Candidate quality doesn't matter for the Dems but it absolutely does matter for the GOP.
The Dems control the institutions so they can win with even braindead Fetterman.
GOP cannot do the same.
Lake and MTG are vastly more poisonous in suburbs and with independents than even Trump himself.
Lee Zeldin is a neocon of the highest order: https://twitter.com/LeeMZeldin/status/1496861956489494530
Like I said, Trump might die, so this is not insignificant.
Not good.
That had the problem with Roe. But presidential elections are. The result of basically every election is a product of the economy.
Zeldin is sadly the best VP choice one can get with Trump on the top of the ticket.
Zeldin is definitely not a squish on social/cultural issues unlike a Romney or Haley.
I don't like Zeldin's policy on Ukraine but it beats picking any of the four women listed.
Trump's fetish for New York and Zeldin's brownnosing might influence Trump to picking Zeldin over one of the four women listed above.
Zeldin is probably the only Male who even has a shot of being VP for a Trump ticket.
Those two are not squishes, just outright enemies. Haley was a Bubba Wallace hoaxer and Romney backs BLM. Dunno about Zeldin, but have not heard bad things about him.
Beggars can't be choosers.
Just so you know: I was looking into Zeldin, and found some tweets that I will be posting. It's not a criticism of you in any way.
His voice is kind of fucked up. I’m not sure if I can stand listening to him speak for 4-8 years.
I’ll praise him as long as he remains a democrat though. He should be pulling the democrat party towards sanity (if that’s even possible, probably isn’t) rather than being another liberal pulling the republicans left. We have enough of those.