How is he (or anyone) allowed to sign a bill while not just being outside his jurisdiction, but outside the country? There has got to be some law against this, surely...
Why would it be illegal? The bill was passed in Florida and he's the governor of Florida. He doesn't have to be in the state to govern the state. If he's out of state and a hurricane hits he can declare a state of emergency from wherever he is.
He doesn't have to be in the state to govern the state. If he's out of state and a hurricane hits he can declare a state of emergency from wherever he is.
He should at least remain in the country as he does so, which is the main issue I'm trying to raise (on top of the contents of the bill).
At your own private home or someone else's? Also "Attack Jews on their property and you're going to prison." sounds like a complete non-sequitur. Yes if you attack people you can go to prison. What does that have to do with this bill I obviously didn't read?
Well either way this will surely win him the Israeli-American vote.
Prohibits person from distributing onto private property any material for purpose of intimidating or threatening owner, resident, or invitee; prohibits person from willfully & maliciously harassing, threatening, or intimidating another person based on person's wearing or displaying of any indicia relating to any religious or ethnic heritage; requires violations be reported as hate crimes; prohibits display or projection of images onto building, structure, or property without permission; prohibits person who willfully enters campus of state university or Florida College System institution for purpose of threatening or intimidating another person from remaining on such campus after being warned to depart.
That's the text of the bill I got directly from the Florida Senate site. Just because I like to check these things. I can't find any part of it that doesn't sound already illegal or in place to begin with, short of the "must be reported as a hate crime."
So this seems to be just the biggest virtue signal possible.
But the type of people who would like this type of virtue signal already hate him for being on the Right. Which means its entirely meant to virtue signal to the ADL types and elites that he will be a good goy and not come after them.
Whenever people have been distributing these flyers, it's been treated as the world's most important littering instance, but they couldn't charge them with anything other than littering, at worst. The law is meant to make the distribution of flyers and the building projections felonies by tacking hate crime charges onto them.
purpose of intimidating or threatening owner, resident, or invitee
Don't forget to read this like a Jew. At face value, that doesn't sound too bad, but they're going to try to count stuff like references to the Lavon Affair or "It's OK to be White."
Nah, I'm just getting used to "inflammatory title for clickbait hiding the truth" becoming the norm around here. And didn't give it the necessary couple layers of thought before posting ignorantly because of unrelated distractions.
prohibits person who willfully enters campus of state university or Florida College System institution for purpose of threatening or intimidating another person from remaining on such campus after being warned to depart.
A Democrat judge who hates him for being a Republican. Like that Bathhouse Barry appointee who strikes down everything he does and clearly has his mind made up before even hearing a case.
You're right that this is just a massive virtue signal/pandering to Florida Jews. However, you're wrong about the last part. Jews aren't as strongly Democrat as people think -- it's about 70/30, which is about as well as Republicans do with any "minority" group outside of Latinos. But, Florida Jews are particularly gettable votes for Republicans. Trump got 41% of Jews in Florida in 2020. And, Jews, left and right, love to be pandered to on the hate speech front.
And, Jews, left and right, love to be pandered to on the hate speech front.
That was my point. The Left, the type who normally love this type of stuff, already hate him and won't fall for it.
But the Jews, especially those that are overrepresented in elites and politics regardless of side, will love it. And he wants them to see him as their ally, because that's basically a requirement to not suddenly be completely blocked out of all chances.
What Republican pandered harder, and frankly, did more for Jews than Trump? The ADL was still going after Trump. They exist primarily as a leftist-elite organization that will occasionally police their own side if it veers into issues related to Jews.
If you show you will actually oppose them, then you will get nothing nowhere zero.
If you show you are willing to kneel to them, then you get to play in the sandbox with no promises of kindness or support. Just the ability to not get completely shutout with the full brunt of their nepotism and strings.
prohibits person who willfully enters campus of state university or Florida College System institution for purpose of threatening or intimidating another person from remaining on such campus after being warned to depart.
Oh FFS, can't people who write laws take 2 seconds to think about the implications of them?
Speaker who is to the right of Mao goes to a Florida campus
Leftist nutjobs at school shriek that he is there to intimidate and threaten them
Leftist college administrator tells him to leave
Speaker says "but I was invited by X group"
Speaker (and potentially members of the group who invited them) are locked up by this bill.
While you are right about its abuse, as I admitted in conversation with a different reply, I do think its already illegal in some form to remain in a place after you've already told to leave and they have the legal right to do so.
I don't know how loitering and tresspassing laws apply on colleges to begin with, but I assume they do have some legal power with them.
It was a mistake passing the bill but signing this bill in Israel is just stupid in terms of optics.
I have criticized Trump for his mistakes constantly so it would only be fair if I do the same when DeSantis does it.
Feels bad to see he is as subservient to their lobby as Trump was.
I am still for DeSantis 2024 since he is more electable but it is clear some things will sadly never change. We will never get a major party candidate who doesn't bend over for them.
Seems unusual for a state governor to fly to a whole other country to sign a bill. It would be cool if this ended up being used against antifa guys, though.
An openly based candidate is unlikely, but bit too soon to say we'll never get a candidate who's at least cool on Israel. The right wing landscape has seen a seismic shift towards Jewish awareness since Trump became president. I see comments where I never thought I'd see them. The Jewish lobby is, as always, incredibly strong, but nobody can make people unlearn things.
Seeing comments on platforms or seeing people starting to notice things doesn't change the existing power structure.
People get old and retire. New generations make new rules. The Jews are very attentive towards this fact because the history of their complete dominance in America is only about 60 years old, dating back to the slavic Jew immigration post WWII.
Not everyone who is fed up of the Zionists is a white nationalist. I'm neither white nor a nationalist and I could definitely do with less of the Zionists.
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Maybe think about the implications of that. Do it quickly, though. Thinking might be outlawed by next week.
How is he (or anyone) allowed to sign a bill while not just being outside his jurisdiction, but outside the country? There has got to be some law against this, surely...
Why would it be illegal? The bill was passed in Florida and he's the governor of Florida. He doesn't have to be in the state to govern the state. If he's out of state and a hurricane hits he can declare a state of emergency from wherever he is.
It just feels like it should be illegal.
And signed into law by DeSantis during his (no longer) secret trip to Jerusalem in Israel, which is not the USA.
John McCain was a senator of Arizona, and yet he rubbed elbows with Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi in Syria right as their civil war kicked off, and gave speeches in Ukraine. For the same reasons, I'm giving DeSantis crap because signing an aggressive bill on "combating antisemitism" doesn't seem to serve the overall interests of the citizens of Florida.
He should at least remain in the country as he does so, which is the main issue I'm trying to raise (on top of the contents of the bill).
At your own private home or someone else's? Also "Attack Jews on their property and you're going to prison." sounds like a complete non-sequitur. Yes if you attack people you can go to prison. What does that have to do with this bill I obviously didn't read?
Well either way this will surely win him the Israeli-American vote.
Right. Saying mean things about joozians is now double-plus illegal
The law bans you from going to Isaac Rosenstein's house and placing antisemitic flyers on his house.
Yeah I got it now. When I commented nobody else had yet and I was too lazy to look it up. :)
That's the text of the bill I got directly from the Florida Senate site. Just because I like to check these things. I can't find any part of it that doesn't sound already illegal or in place to begin with, short of the "must be reported as a hate crime."
So this seems to be just the biggest virtue signal possible.
But the type of people who would like this type of virtue signal already hate him for being on the Right. Which means its entirely meant to virtue signal to the ADL types and elites that he will be a good goy and not come after them.
Whenever people have been distributing these flyers, it's been treated as the world's most important littering instance, but they couldn't charge them with anything other than littering, at worst. The law is meant to make the distribution of flyers and the building projections felonies by tacking hate crime charges onto them.
Don't forget to read this like a Jew. At face value, that doesn't sound too bad, but they're going to try to count stuff like references to the Lavon Affair or "It's OK to be White."
Right, it makes more sense with that context. And you are correct in reading it in a much more negative abusive faction. I'm not on my A game today.
You just caught the optimism bug. It's contagious here.
Nah, I'm just getting used to "inflammatory title for clickbait hiding the truth" becoming the norm around here. And didn't give it the necessary couple layers of thought before posting ignorantly because of unrelated distractions.
Pretty sure such a law is illegal.
Lots of laws are illegal. Who will stop them?
A Democrat judge who hates him for being a Republican. Like that Bathhouse Barry appointee who strikes down everything he does and clearly has his mind made up before even hearing a case.
Hawaiian judge enters the chat
You're right that this is just a massive virtue signal/pandering to Florida Jews. However, you're wrong about the last part. Jews aren't as strongly Democrat as people think -- it's about 70/30, which is about as well as Republicans do with any "minority" group outside of Latinos. But, Florida Jews are particularly gettable votes for Republicans. Trump got 41% of Jews in Florida in 2020. And, Jews, left and right, love to be pandered to on the hate speech front.
https://archive.is/68bPN
That was my point. The Left, the type who normally love this type of stuff, already hate him and won't fall for it.
But the Jews, especially those that are overrepresented in elites and politics regardless of side, will love it. And he wants them to see him as their ally, because that's basically a requirement to not suddenly be completely blocked out of all chances.
What Republican pandered harder, and frankly, did more for Jews than Trump? The ADL was still going after Trump. They exist primarily as a leftist-elite organization that will occasionally police their own side if it veers into issues related to Jews.
If you show you will actually oppose them, then you will get nothing nowhere zero.
If you show you are willing to kneel to them, then you get to play in the sandbox with no promises of kindness or support. Just the ability to not get completely shutout with the full brunt of their nepotism and strings.
Oh FFS, can't people who write laws take 2 seconds to think about the implications of them?
Speaker who is to the right of Mao goes to a Florida campus
Leftist nutjobs at school shriek that he is there to intimidate and threaten them
Leftist college administrator tells him to leave
Speaker says "but I was invited by X group"
Speaker (and potentially members of the group who invited them) are locked up by this bill.
While you are right about its abuse, as I admitted in conversation with a different reply, I do think its already illegal in some form to remain in a place after you've already told to leave and they have the legal right to do so.
I don't know how loitering and tresspassing laws apply on colleges to begin with, but I assume they do have some legal power with them.
I'll take shit that never happens for 400.
Gop loves their jews. Libs love their rainbows. Yep yep yep.
Jews love the rainbows too. Useful tools
It's a big human centipede
who's behind the rainbows
Told you, fuckers. You guys done being shills for DeSantis?
>(!!!)
It was a mistake passing the bill but signing this bill in Israel is just stupid in terms of optics.
I have criticized Trump for his mistakes constantly so it would only be fair if I do the same when DeSantis does it.
Feels bad to see he is as subservient to their lobby as Trump was.
I am still for DeSantis 2024 since he is more electable but it is clear some things will sadly never change. We will never get a major party candidate who doesn't bend over for them.
Lmao this doesn't even need a comment.
sounds like a first amendment violation
DeSantis just shat the bed and wiped his sorry ass with the First Amendment.
Seems unusual for a state governor to fly to a whole other country to sign a bill. It would be cool if this ended up being used against antifa guys, though.
if he's not on vacation why has he left the country? he's the governor of florida, not the ambassador to israel.
There will be no GOP candidate running that doesn't partake in heavy philosemitism.
Trump moved the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. He was the most pro-Israel President of the modern era.
This is something I see the White nationalist crowd here always attacking Trump on.
Donald Trump is a huge Zionist and so is Ron DeSantis.
The White nationalists will never get their "based candidate who names them".
It is just a fact that to attain any real power in the West, you must be openly philosemitic.
There are obviously no Republicans willing to say anything bad about Israel or the Jewish people.
The only anti-semite politicians that exist are Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib but they get a free pass because they are Muslim Democrats.
If someone hates Ron for being a Zionist, they certainly won't be happy with the Don either.
An openly based candidate is unlikely, but bit too soon to say we'll never get a candidate who's at least cool on Israel. The right wing landscape has seen a seismic shift towards Jewish awareness since Trump became president. I see comments where I never thought I'd see them. The Jewish lobby is, as always, incredibly strong, but nobody can make people unlearn things.
Reality still remains that you will never get a major party candidate that is not a philosemite.
Seeing comments on platforms or seeing people starting to notice things doesn't change the existing power structure.
Major party candidates know who to never attack if they want to get far in their career.
There are certain third rails in western politics.
It is that simple.
People get old and retire. New generations make new rules. The Jews are very attentive towards this fact because the history of their complete dominance in America is only about 60 years old, dating back to the slavic Jew immigration post WWII.
Not everyone who is fed up of the Zionists is a white nationalist. I'm neither white nor a nationalist and I could definitely do with less of the Zionists.
Zion Don bros we’re winning!
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