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Gov DeSantis travels to Jerusalem to sign bill HB 269 which criminalizes behaviors such as placing antisemitic flyers at private homes or projecting images on buildings. (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by SparkMandrill83 3 years ago by SparkMandrill83 +67 / -0
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– Adamrises 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Prohibits person from distributing onto private property any material for purpose of intimidating or threatening owner, resident, or invitee; prohibits person from willfully & maliciously harassing, threatening, or intimidating another person based on person's wearing or displaying of any indicia relating to any religious or ethnic heritage; requires violations be reported as hate crimes; prohibits display or projection of images onto building, structure, or property without permission; prohibits person who willfully enters campus of state university or Florida College System institution for purpose of threatening or intimidating another person from remaining on such campus after being warned to depart.

That's the text of the bill I got directly from the Florida Senate site. Just because I like to check these things. I can't find any part of it that doesn't sound already illegal or in place to begin with, short of the "must be reported as a hate crime."

So this seems to be just the biggest virtue signal possible.

But the type of people who would like this type of virtue signal already hate him for being on the Right. Which means its entirely meant to virtue signal to the ADL types and elites that he will be a good goy and not come after them.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 35 points 3 years ago +35 / -0

Whenever people have been distributing these flyers, it's been treated as the world's most important littering instance, but they couldn't charge them with anything other than littering, at worst. The law is meant to make the distribution of flyers and the building projections felonies by tacking hate crime charges onto them.

purpose of intimidating or threatening owner, resident, or invitee

Don't forget to read this like a Jew. At face value, that doesn't sound too bad, but they're going to try to count stuff like references to the Lavon Affair or "It's OK to be White."

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– Adamrises 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Right, it makes more sense with that context. And you are correct in reading it in a much more negative abusive faction. I'm not on my A game today.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

You just caught the optimism bug. It's contagious here.

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– Adamrises 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Nah, I'm just getting used to "inflammatory title for clickbait hiding the truth" becoming the norm around here. And didn't give it the necessary couple layers of thought before posting ignorantly because of unrelated distractions.

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– NoEyesNoGroin 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

prohibits person who willfully enters campus of state university or Florida College System institution for purpose of threatening or intimidating another person from remaining on such campus after being warned to depart.

Pretty sure such a law is illegal.

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– trump4044 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Lots of laws are illegal. Who will stop them?

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– FuckGenderPolitics 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

A Democrat judge who hates him for being a Republican. Like that Bathhouse Barry appointee who strikes down everything he does and clearly has his mind made up before even hearing a case.

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– sobriquet 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Hawaiian judge enters the chat

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– 0000Titan 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

You're right that this is just a massive virtue signal/pandering to Florida Jews. However, you're wrong about the last part. Jews aren't as strongly Democrat as people think -- it's about 70/30, which is about as well as Republicans do with any "minority" group outside of Latinos. But, Florida Jews are particularly gettable votes for Republicans. Trump got 41% of Jews in Florida in 2020. And, Jews, left and right, love to be pandered to on the hate speech front.

https://archive.is/68bPN

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– Adamrises 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

And, Jews, left and right, love to be pandered to on the hate speech front.

That was my point. The Left, the type who normally love this type of stuff, already hate him and won't fall for it.

But the Jews, especially those that are overrepresented in elites and politics regardless of side, will love it. And he wants them to see him as their ally, because that's basically a requirement to not suddenly be completely blocked out of all chances.

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– 0000Titan 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

What Republican pandered harder, and frankly, did more for Jews than Trump? The ADL was still going after Trump. They exist primarily as a leftist-elite organization that will occasionally police their own side if it veers into issues related to Jews.

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– Adamrises 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

If you show you will actually oppose them, then you will get nothing nowhere zero.

If you show you are willing to kneel to them, then you get to play in the sandbox with no promises of kindness or support. Just the ability to not get completely shutout with the full brunt of their nepotism and strings.

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– ailurus 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

prohibits person who willfully enters campus of state university or Florida College System institution for purpose of threatening or intimidating another person from remaining on such campus after being warned to depart.

Oh FFS, can't people who write laws take 2 seconds to think about the implications of them?

  1. Speaker who is to the right of Mao goes to a Florida campus

  2. Leftist nutjobs at school shriek that he is there to intimidate and threaten them

  3. Leftist college administrator tells him to leave

  4. Speaker says "but I was invited by X group"

  5. Speaker (and potentially members of the group who invited them) are locked up by this bill.

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– Adamrises 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

While you are right about its abuse, as I admitted in conversation with a different reply, I do think its already illegal in some form to remain in a place after you've already told to leave and they have the legal right to do so.

I don't know how loitering and tresspassing laws apply on colleges to begin with, but I assume they do have some legal power with them.

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– Guy_Incognito76 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I'll take shit that never happens for 400.

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