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What about the people who don't want society to collapse but think it will anyways?
My life is pretty good without collapse, and I can't imagine it being better post-collapse. I am and always was a nerd, so in any sort of survivalist situation I'm going to be near the bottom of the totem pole. But I also don't want to be the Venezuelans who break into the zoo because they're starving.
You summed up my personal position.
Some people here want to accelerate to the collapse but I know that it won't do anything but completely ruin my quality of life.
No way my quality of life increases after a collapse.
Bread and circuses, unironically.
Traditionally, this is why it’s good to have children. They force you to contemplate a future beyond your own.
I have no desire to bring kids into this world.
Also have you seen the state of current women?
I have no hope of finding a loyal suitable partner even if I wanted to.
Having kids? Not happening for me.
I'm an accelerationist precisely because I have children. My own present level of comfort is meaningless compared to ensuring the future is clear of the leftist filth who presently pollute the nation.
The fight is inevitable, so the sooner it starts the sooner it's finished.
Its rare to see someone with kids be an accelerationist.
Well seeing how as I don't have children and won't have children, I will act in my best interests and not promote accelerationism.
Our wants will not matter, shit looks to be accelerating if we want it or not. Best we can do is make some preparations. Like having a place to move if shit hits the fan. Same minded friends and preferable in some rural place forgotten by the mainstream culture.
Man, I feel you on that one, but I'd rather figure out how to correct the situation rather than to just give in to despair. Can we at least take away their rights first before we give up?
We cannot put the genie back in the lamp.
Feminism and wokeism has resulted in women having way more rights than men.
I don't think there is any feasible way to turn back the clock.
But the current state of affairs is unsustainable, so it must eventually turn back.
The current state of affairs may seem unsustainable but the status quo can still exist for upto two decades.
By that point I will be an old man.
That said, if we need a root canal than better to do it now than later. Quality of life suffers in the short term, but putting it off doesn't make things any better.
Whether this analogy is appropriate to the present situation, men of good faith can disagree.
I rather live my life with the best quality of life as long as I can.
I rather live comfortably as possible during a decade or more of slow decline than have the collapse and die soon after.
His roots shall be dried up beneath, and above shall his branch be cut off. His remembrance shall perish from the earth, and he shall have no name in the street. He shall be driven from light into darkness, and chased out of the world. He shall neither have son nor nephew among his people, nor any remaining in his dwellings. They that come after him shall be astonied at his day, as they that went before were affrighted. Surely such are the dwellings of the wicked, and this is the place of him that knoweth not God.
dude nerd is halfway to mad scientist survivalist
lvl ur skill tree bruh
I think the sentiment is that the societal rot is so bad that a collapse is a) inevitable and b) the only way to end the current clown show. I don't think anyone believes that something better will take its place without people being willing to build it. One thing is for certain though: All this DIE shit is a luxury that only a society as comfortable and decadent as ours can afford. When shit kicks off middle class teenagers will have far bigger things to worry about than which gender fad will net them the most attention.
Wokeness isn’t middle class teenagers. It’s non-whites, non-Christians, lgbt, and single white women. Those are the demographics contributing to the leftist takeover.
Neither the teens nor the minorities have power- they are just being facilitated by those that do. As for contributing, you could say the right is most culpable for putting up less of a fight than a wet paper bag.
Lol plenty of white men and married women are woke
That's the big lie, "society" doesn't have to collapse, it already has. Crushed under the weight of parasites it became too weak to shake off, now, shackled to the millstone it once built, most of humanity moves mindlessly by coercion rather than with cohesion and purpose.
The threat looming, and what people like Randal wet their panties at the thought of, is systemic collapse. The systems society built to provide survival needs and comfort are still currently rolling even after the death of their creators. But the parasites siphoning off resources that should go into maintenance, to instead get personally fat and keep retightening the shackles is leading them into disrepair. On our current trajectory systemic collapse is inevitable, the timeline is the only debatable point.
Rekindling a cohesive society and throwing off the parasites holding the coercive reins does not necessitate systemic collapse. People aren't going to forget how to make medicine or run power plants just because you take the shackles off them. But systemic collapse will necessitate the rekindling of cohesive societies to survive in the absence of systemic safety nets.
So that's the fork in the road. The optimists will hope humanity is on average smart and strong enough to lurch away from the oncoming pitfall once it finally becomes obvious enough. Whilst the pessimists will think humanity is too fat and indolent to do anything before it's too late, and will have to starve for a while in the pit before it is lean enough to climb out again. And the idiots will think nothing is wrong.
From what I remember of Atlas Shrugged I some times feel that's the timeline we're in. Infrastructure's falling apart, shortages of this or that thing cropping up in the news every now and again. Granted, generally the store shelves are still stocked up but we know the stories we read of X food plant burning or Y logistics pileup take months before they hit us small folk.
I was attending my one Thursday class yesterday and it's being taught by a tax lawyer. The things (Imp forgive me) she was saying involving her dealings with the IRS, how it's years behind on processing things, how it took ages to even deposit a really really freaking huge check... Hearing her regale us with her dealings with the Federal government made me feel like some bureaucrat in a remote Roman province.
"Yes, we lost the May payroll, Goths again."
"We've lost contact with Londinium. I'm sure they're ok but we've not received any letters from them in some time."
"We've been waiting on the Dux's word before we acted but by the time he was able to send a messenger it was already months after the fact."
The metaphorical trains aren't just running late, we're lucky if they even make it to the station.
You do realize that's an edit and not his work, right?
Yeah-no, haven't looked at his stuff first hand for a long time now, and it's the kind of smug flippant sheeple mocking straw man that fits in his wheelhouse perfectly. But the font and typesetting do look obviously off-brand on second glance, and I've no reason not to take your word for it.
That said, given his shitting on the concept of free speech in favor of the polite authoritarian euphemism of "door showing", his chronic adherence to [current thing] dogmas and his elitist disdain for the majority of the population, I stand by my assessment that he doesn't really give a damn about societal collapse and social atomisation. He's just afraid of systemic collapse and losing access to his cool toys.
https://xkcd.com/610/
society doesn't need to collapse. DC, Beijing, the WEF, Moscow, and possibly others do. All simultaneously. The rest of us will be figure it out, and we will be better off for it.
I don't care my special ideology doesn't gain ascendacy. I want society to collapse to see people responsible for it suffer greatly.
my ideology is ammosexuality, and it has fervent support by over a hundred million americans. and if you don't agree, people fucking shoot you. so yeah, my ideology will at least be in the running.
Lol yeah if there were some national collapse I'd just hole up with similarly armed compatriots and spread ammosexual love to looters and the chinese
this buys into the liberal myth, that the current order isn't an ideology, but a fair and impartial system of neutral interlocking institutions that are entirely beholden to popular sovereignty. Which is far more retarded
Spez's favorite segment of the alphabet mafia would be my first target.
Me, but with Berlin. Because it's pretty much like a tumor to German society.
Yes. Sorry Elon, but it's true. Society is collapsing, and something will come up to take its place.
What is your ideology, and is it triumphant right now?
what is winning I would describe as globohomo
It's obviously my ideology that will rise.
And then die in one generation because no one procreates
Hey, there's immaculate conceptions in the bible!