Except those priests literally go against the Bible (especially that compelled celibacy BS causing all this in the first place which Paul specifically forbids against), but then again I wouldn't expect someone who never actually read the thing to understand.
There's a reason that Protestants split off from Catholicism, and why Catholics call themselves Catholics and not Christians.
Don't forget that literally allowed homosexuals to be priest and then those homos raped a bunch of little boys. Don't let the stupidity of celibacy distract you from that
Nah that's not recent. Most of the catholic priests victims were boys. What is recent is a revelation that their is a gay club in the catholic church that has existed for decades
And on today's episode of fanfiction wars, we see the long-standing "my god, who I made up, is way better then your god, which you made up" rivalry between two different editions of "old jewish god, which they made up" enjoyers flare up again.
I wonder what it'll take to get people to understand you can have morals and good/bad behavior dichotomies without having to cite imaginary sky kings whose sole basis for dictating right/wrong is "I have a way, way, way bigger stick then you, and I'm perfectly willing to beat you all to death with it until you obey me".
Try reading the comment chain, you literally don't even know what you're talking about.
Its the same God, its just that the Catholics are going against what the Bible says.
I wonder what it'll take to get people to understand you can have morals and good/bad behavior dichotomies without having to cite imaginary sky kings whose sole basis for dictating right/wrong is "I have a way, way, way bigger stick then you, and I'm perfectly willing to beat you all to death with it until you obey me".
Not only was this never brought up anywhere in the post, its also ridiculous. Obviously "good people" and "bad people" can exist anywhere, including inside and outside the church, even ones that are supposed to be "good", but that depends heavily on your highly subjective definition of "good".
You have brought up a topic that is so broad, that its honestly laughable. Did you even think before posting?
You think that people defining "good" or "bad" can be so simple? You most likely do not even know what "good" means, or why your definition of "good" even means what it does.
God is an objective source above and outside of mankind for morality. To this day, mankind has yet to come up with anything on its own that has matched the morality of the Ten Commandments, and Jesus's teachings and commandments.
You most likely live in a western country, founded on moral principles established by Christianity and the Bible, yet you believe you can spit on the feet of the giant whose shoulder you're standing upon. That is the height of arrogance, ignorance and stupidity in my eyes.
You don't even know the difference between the 2 biggest broad factions, whose conflict between each other is one of the major reasons why you have the freedom to post and act like the person you are.
Under Catholicism (which is what much of Europe was under for a long time), someone like you would've been either slaughtered, forcefully converted, or silenced through fear, threats or violence.
Have you ever once thought why Europe and America are so different from the rest of the world in terms of morality? Maybe you should either do some thinking, or try living in another region and see how long you last elsewhere.
There's no such thing as agood person. All humans are depraved. You just have those who walk with the Lord and move away from that depravity and those who don't
Impressive conclusion. That's what you came to after reading over 700,000 words of scripture? Or at least the New Testament? I don't buy it, because you literally said nothing here.
every sect of Christianity thinks its the right one.
Who'd have guessed that, yes, people want to believe their deeply held religious beliefs are correct. If you don't think your own beliefs were correct, there'd be no reason for you to have them in the first place.
The Bible is the objective source here used, note how I did not mention any specific "sect".
Protestantism is an umbrella term for Christians who are not Catholic/Orthodox. There are plenty of incorrect denominations within Protestantism, but also several that are correct (and non-denominational ones can either be correct or not depending on their beliefs), but that's not the point. The point here was pointing out an incorrect belief held by the Catholic church, which is a top-down, autocratic entity that explicitly goes against the Bible's words.
Its not about "my brand is better than your brand" in this comment , its literally "What you're doing here is incorrect, no wonder all the other brands split off from you."
Based. Too many catholics still cling to their fanfiction that was created to justify a massive power structure, even while they openly acknowledge the pope himself the cardinals being heretical, satanic or at least corrupt as fuck and covering up the pedophile scandals.
The entire catholic system goes against the core message of the bible.
My grandfather, who is an experienced and long-time pastor, entertains there is at least a possibility (if not a decent likelihood) that the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon.
They are the Muslims of Christianity if I'm being honest. People have no idea about their violent past. They had things like forced conversions (as in, the same kind that Muslims had, which is "convert or kill"), massive amounts of violence and authoritarianism (preventing the common person from being allowed to read the Bible, through their clergy/laity hierarchy), they massacred and oppressed much of Christendom quite literally during the religious wars of freedom. They routinely did this sort of thing and schemed to have anyone who disagreed with them killed. They were violent and fanatical and killed what should've been their own brethren, hardly what God wants out of Christians.
They have explicit doctrines that go against Biblical teachings. Their system as a whole, like you said, is just flat-out wrong. Doesn't even get into the messes that are Papal Supremacy, Infallibility, and Primacy, which are quite literally making the Pope out to be some kind of infallible emperor who communes with God.
Combine the fact that the Pope is something ridiculously powerful in the Catholic faith with the fact that, during the time of Martin Luther, the Popes came from the most powerful and richest family in Italy (The Medicis)... its like, what is this joke? Just how corrupt can the Catholic church be?
While I'm not religious, there is a small difference between a book that lies at the foundation of Western civilization and one that pedophiles use to groom kids. Also, I think these drag queens look quite demonic.
My mind didn’t even make the connection at first because these things are so unrelated. First thing that came to mind was the recent salmonella outbreaks at the children’s play water fountains.
What?! Nobody cares what drag queens do. It’s not unreasonable to ask why they are so intent on being around children since it’s an adult form of entertainment. Why not have strippers or porn stars read to kids?
I mean, there's a reason Ben Shapiro calls them 'transgressives'. There's no logic to their political positions, except for the fact that they try to transgress society's boundaries, which is why it is such a fool's errand to accede in the moving of these boundaries. It would be great if conservatives still opposed same-sex marriage. Because then they'd still be hammering on that, rather than moving on to greener pastures.
If you ask them now, they'll all call it preposterous. Just like those same people call castrating minors preposterous, ain't happening, five minutes before admitting it and saying that it is good. But once 'drag queen story hour' is well entrenched, I can easily see them moving on to strippers, and making their usual specious arguments in favor. "Studies show that kids grow up best when they are not in a sexually repressive environment. No one is advocating for sexualizing kids, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with acquainting them with these other aspects of life which also exist. Better to familiarize them in a controlled environment than that they figure it out through internet porn."
Good point. Shapiro also mentions the “face tattoo syndrome” where there is an outrageous face tattoo and then they get upset for you noticing. So they do something outrageous and then ask why we are noticing
Isn't the Rapture prophecy? Why be against it? Well, unless you're an high-ranking Jehova's Witness, you're not getting into heaven, so I could understand that viewpoint.
From a theological point of view? Because nobody knows when it’s coming. You can’t just assume you’re living in the end times rather than difficult ones.
It's a message of hope for apocalyptic times, not an excuse to give up and commit suicide.
Look I'm pretty damn far from a proselytizer, but you really don't understand the book's messaging whatsoever. You're spitting absolute brainlet takes because you've been fed ignorant things from people who told you atheism was cool and christianity was cringe.
You gotta actually understand what you're talking about if you want to be taken seriously arguing against it, not just parrot dimwit lines.
What on earth must they contest about SB43 that is so outlandishly offensive and disagreeable that they feel the need to compare it to segregation era water fountains?
Was it the part where the bill considers showing your cock and balls to minors a fucking no-no? Or is it because they can't use public funds to show their cock and balls to minors?
They're being told it's evil, so they are fighting it. They haven't actually read the bill. That's how Disney shot its own foot with the Don't Say Gay' Bill.
None of that is any different than actions taken by communists. All power structures are seized by sociopaths. Catholicism is a power structure derived from that same kind of action, it has zero biblical justification to exist.
The only embarrassment here is people hypocritically defending identity politics and authoritarianism when it's from "their side". Go be in an echo-chamber if that's what you want.
This probably isn’t a super popular opinion here but.. The thing I hate the most about this shit is the fact these pedos larping as Drag Queens & crossdressers shit on any progress made by people like me who like to wear girly clothes and do femboy shit who are otherwise normal people. I agree that actual drag shows need to be 18+ like they have been & there’s no excuse for kids in that environment bar none. Hell even reading pre 2012 material on the subject is about not dressing and acting like a THOT/Degenerate will make people more accepting. I hate the fact that femboys are lumped in with Trans shit and it’s a complete fucking joke because I have no desire to change my gender. I guess I’m stuck in this political no-mans land until I can enlist the the RWFemboyDS battalion
Rejecting the fact that you were born male is a symptom of mental illness. You aren't "otherwise normal", you take a degenerate fetish too far and let it influence your life.
The modern generation is being fed things like "it's okay to be weak" to feminize and destroy men. You have been affected by this. Reject it. Unplug from porn and the internet, go get in shape. Lift weights.
Why have drag queens been put on such a high pedestal in recent years? It's been bothering me a lot lately and I cannot seem to figure out an answer. And why do we let them near kids?! Who the fuck actually started this weird trend? It's adult entertainers, not for kids.
They're right; it's not just about drag queens. It's about all the pedophiles.
It's about the satanic pedophile elites.
Sigh. Just because they brought a story book doesn't mean yours is relevant here. It too has been used by plenty of priests to "pedophile"..
Except those priests literally go against the Bible (especially that compelled celibacy BS causing all this in the first place which Paul specifically forbids against), but then again I wouldn't expect someone who never actually read the thing to understand.
There's a reason that Protestants split off from Catholicism, and why Catholics call themselves Catholics and not Christians.
Seems a lot of cultures did or do this. Using little boys.
Don't forget that literally allowed homosexuals to be priest and then those homos raped a bunch of little boys. Don't let the stupidity of celibacy distract you from that
I'm guessing that's something recent, I didn't hear about that but it sounds messed up
Nah that's not recent. Most of the catholic priests victims were boys. What is recent is a revelation that their is a gay club in the catholic church that has existed for decades
And on today's episode of fanfiction wars, we see the long-standing "my god, who I made up, is way better then your god, which you made up" rivalry between two different editions of "old jewish god, which they made up" enjoyers flare up again.
I wonder what it'll take to get people to understand you can have morals and good/bad behavior dichotomies without having to cite imaginary sky kings whose sole basis for dictating right/wrong is "I have a way, way, way bigger stick then you, and I'm perfectly willing to beat you all to death with it until you obey me".
... Err...
Try reading the comment chain, you literally don't even know what you're talking about.
Its the same God, its just that the Catholics are going against what the Bible says.
Not only was this never brought up anywhere in the post, its also ridiculous. Obviously "good people" and "bad people" can exist anywhere, including inside and outside the church, even ones that are supposed to be "good", but that depends heavily on your highly subjective definition of "good".
You have brought up a topic that is so broad, that its honestly laughable. Did you even think before posting?
You think that people defining "good" or "bad" can be so simple? You most likely do not even know what "good" means, or why your definition of "good" even means what it does.
God is an objective source above and outside of mankind for morality. To this day, mankind has yet to come up with anything on its own that has matched the morality of the Ten Commandments, and Jesus's teachings and commandments.
You most likely live in a western country, founded on moral principles established by Christianity and the Bible, yet you believe you can spit on the feet of the giant whose shoulder you're standing upon. That is the height of arrogance, ignorance and stupidity in my eyes.
You don't even know the difference between the 2 biggest broad factions, whose conflict between each other is one of the major reasons why you have the freedom to post and act like the person you are.
Under Catholicism (which is what much of Europe was under for a long time), someone like you would've been either slaughtered, forcefully converted, or silenced through fear, threats or violence.
Have you ever once thought why Europe and America are so different from the rest of the world in terms of morality? Maybe you should either do some thinking, or try living in another region and see how long you last elsewhere.
There's no such thing as agood person. All humans are depraved. You just have those who walk with the Lord and move away from that depravity and those who don't
You're correct of course.
I have read it. It's trash. Every sect of christianity thinks it's the right one, and think everyone else is wrong.
Impressive conclusion. That's what you came to after reading over 700,000 words of scripture? Or at least the New Testament? I don't buy it, because you literally said nothing here.
Who'd have guessed that, yes, people want to believe their deeply held religious beliefs are correct. If you don't think your own beliefs were correct, there'd be no reason for you to have them in the first place.
The Bible is the objective source here used, note how I did not mention any specific "sect".
Protestantism is an umbrella term for Christians who are not Catholic/Orthodox. There are plenty of incorrect denominations within Protestantism, but also several that are correct (and non-denominational ones can either be correct or not depending on their beliefs), but that's not the point. The point here was pointing out an incorrect belief held by the Catholic church, which is a top-down, autocratic entity that explicitly goes against the Bible's words.
Its not about "my brand is better than your brand" in this comment , its literally "What you're doing here is incorrect, no wonder all the other brands split off from you."
Based. Too many catholics still cling to their fanfiction that was created to justify a massive power structure, even while they openly acknowledge the pope himself the cardinals being heretical, satanic or at least corrupt as fuck and covering up the pedophile scandals.
The entire catholic system goes against the core message of the bible.
My grandfather, who is an experienced and long-time pastor, entertains there is at least a possibility (if not a decent likelihood) that the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon.
They are the Muslims of Christianity if I'm being honest. People have no idea about their violent past. They had things like forced conversions (as in, the same kind that Muslims had, which is "convert or kill"), massive amounts of violence and authoritarianism (preventing the common person from being allowed to read the Bible, through their clergy/laity hierarchy), they massacred and oppressed much of Christendom quite literally during the religious wars of freedom. They routinely did this sort of thing and schemed to have anyone who disagreed with them killed. They were violent and fanatical and killed what should've been their own brethren, hardly what God wants out of Christians.
They have explicit doctrines that go against Biblical teachings. Their system as a whole, like you said, is just flat-out wrong. Doesn't even get into the messes that are Papal Supremacy, Infallibility, and Primacy, which are quite literally making the Pope out to be some kind of infallible emperor who communes with God.
Combine the fact that the Pope is something ridiculously powerful in the Catholic faith with the fact that, during the time of Martin Luther, the Popes came from the most powerful and richest family in Italy (The Medicis)... its like, what is this joke? Just how corrupt can the Catholic church be?
While I'm not religious, there is a small difference between a book that lies at the foundation of Western civilization and one that pedophiles use to groom kids. Also, I think these drag queens look quite demonic.
Lmfao at making a post like this and it not being a joke or a bit in any way.
do these people even know what they're posting?
Of course because not being allowed to molest children is like making them second class citizens
My mind didn’t even make the connection at first because these things are so unrelated. First thing that came to mind was the recent salmonella outbreaks at the children’s play water fountains.
They’re just delusional.
What?! Nobody cares what drag queens do. It’s not unreasonable to ask why they are so intent on being around children since it’s an adult form of entertainment. Why not have strippers or porn stars read to kids?
They'd love that too.
You think so? I’m surprised nobody has pushed that to prove a point.
I mean, there's a reason Ben Shapiro calls them 'transgressives'. There's no logic to their political positions, except for the fact that they try to transgress society's boundaries, which is why it is such a fool's errand to accede in the moving of these boundaries. It would be great if conservatives still opposed same-sex marriage. Because then they'd still be hammering on that, rather than moving on to greener pastures.
If you ask them now, they'll all call it preposterous. Just like those same people call castrating minors preposterous, ain't happening, five minutes before admitting it and saying that it is good. But once 'drag queen story hour' is well entrenched, I can easily see them moving on to strippers, and making their usual specious arguments in favor. "Studies show that kids grow up best when they are not in a sexually repressive environment. No one is advocating for sexualizing kids, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with acquainting them with these other aspects of life which also exist. Better to familiarize them in a controlled environment than that they figure it out through internet porn."
Good point. Shapiro also mentions the “face tattoo syndrome” where there is an outrageous face tattoo and then they get upset for you noticing. So they do something outrageous and then ask why we are noticing
Indeed. It's nothing as good as Tonsure and Cornettes.
My guess is that they find strippers to be too heteronormative. And sprinkle in some jealousy from the pink haired land whales.
nobody cares about what drag queens do is what allowed them to be more and more aggressive, maybe it's time people care about what the drag queens do
Unbelievable, someone else also understands it!!!! That whole ''out of sight out of mind'' attitude is how we are where we are.
I meant what they do in adult establishments with other adults. We can’t stop that.
not with that attitude
I agree that it's bad. I also wouldn't want diddly priests to read a fiction book to kids.
What a brave take
They are admitting all the stuff they complain about is a pretext for forwarding their gay commie agenda, all the way back to "civil rights".
It's not going to stop at just drag queens just like it was never going to stop at just equal rights.
They want to be the ones wearing the boot on your face, everything else is just a means to an end.
They just want the boots to be stylish is all. We should introduce them to Hugo Boss...
Isn't the Rapture prophecy? Why be against it? Well, unless you're an high-ranking Jehova's Witness, you're not getting into heaven, so I could understand that viewpoint.
From a theological point of view? Because nobody knows when it’s coming. You can’t just assume you’re living in the end times rather than difficult ones.
It's a message of hope for apocalyptic times, not an excuse to give up and commit suicide.
Look I'm pretty damn far from a proselytizer, but you really don't understand the book's messaging whatsoever. You're spitting absolute brainlet takes because you've been fed ignorant things from people who told you atheism was cool and christianity was cringe.
You gotta actually understand what you're talking about if you want to be taken seriously arguing against it, not just parrot dimwit lines.
What the fuck is wrong with these people?
What on earth must they contest about SB43 that is so outlandishly offensive and disagreeable that they feel the need to compare it to segregation era water fountains?
Was it the part where the bill considers showing your cock and balls to minors a fucking no-no? Or is it because they can't use public funds to show their cock and balls to minors?
They're being told it's evil, so they are fighting it. They haven't actually read the bill. That's how Disney shot its own foot with the Don't Say Gay' Bill.
For the last time, "drag queen" is not a immutable characteristic
What????
Welcome to Portland.
This is from a very well meaning friend as well.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Sadly true.
Especially when done on the name of god. Witch-hunts, crusades, inquisutions..etc.
None of that is any different than actions taken by communists. All power structures are seized by sociopaths. Catholicism is a power structure derived from that same kind of action, it has zero biblical justification to exist.
I'm a lifelong atheist; I quit believing in "god" when I found out that Santa Claus wasn't real.
You're embarrassing yourself in this thread.
Go be edgy with the other ignorant idiots on r/atheism.
The only embarrassment here is people hypocritically defending identity politics and authoritarianism when it's from "their side". Go be in an echo-chamber if that's what you want.
stop trying to debauch children and the crusade will end.
i don't mean get better at hiding, i mean stop. entirely.
This probably isn’t a super popular opinion here but.. The thing I hate the most about this shit is the fact these pedos larping as Drag Queens & crossdressers shit on any progress made by people like me who like to wear girly clothes and do femboy shit who are otherwise normal people. I agree that actual drag shows need to be 18+ like they have been & there’s no excuse for kids in that environment bar none. Hell even reading pre 2012 material on the subject is about not dressing and acting like a THOT/Degenerate will make people more accepting. I hate the fact that femboys are lumped in with Trans shit and it’s a complete fucking joke because I have no desire to change my gender. I guess I’m stuck in this political no-mans land until I can enlist the the RWFemboyDS battalion
Or you could address your mental illness instead.
Rejecting the fact that you were born male is a symptom of mental illness. You aren't "otherwise normal", you take a degenerate fetish too far and let it influence your life.
The modern generation is being fed things like "it's okay to be weak" to feminize and destroy men. You have been affected by this. Reject it. Unplug from porn and the internet, go get in shape. Lift weights.
Why have drag queens been put on such a high pedestal in recent years? It's been bothering me a lot lately and I cannot seem to figure out an answer. And why do we let them near kids?! Who the fuck actually started this weird trend? It's adult entertainers, not for kids.