I don't know enough about the history of liberalism to make that leap, but I do know that calling them liberals has no effect whatsoever and they don't refer to themselves as such. Calling them Progressives makes them seethe beyond belief because that's what they call themselves and it's right on target.
"Funniest" thing about this is that the local (white/mixed) community in this area consistently vote against the politicians from the capital cities thousands of miles away, and yet their voices are completely ignored, when these decisions are made.
There's like, half a million people in North Qld, maybe more - less than 10% would vote in support of this, they will be objectively disadvantaged by it, and yet they are so disenfranchised by "majority rule" and proportional voting, that what they think literally doesn't matter at all, and a tiny, woke minority wins out once again.
Insane, divisive, and completely unsustainable. Yet this is where we are headed as a country, apparently...
Australia doesn't make anything. They dig up things and send the dirt overseas in bulk carriers and sell houses to each other.
All of the GDP growth of the past X years is from having the highest (per capita) immigration in the western world; which is driving property prices near Melbourne and Sydney.
At some point it has to stop; it is absolutely unsustainable.
At that point there will be an end to luxuries like giving billions to 5% of the population because of their race. There will probably be an end to things like universal health care and the national disability insurance; as both are basically handouts to tiny minorities.
The day people can't afford to put fuel in their car and bread on the table is the day the Sit Down Money ends.
Apparently Labor is going to ban, yes ban menthols, now, after their war on vaping, and more recently fucking paracetamol…
And look, I’m not a smoker (thankfully), but at some point you begin to think - if we live in a country where every “vice” is banned, where movement (of whites, at least) is extremely heavily restricted, where freedoms are increasingly curtailed, and where speech, and “publicly acceptable opinion”, is increasingly restricted and controlled - why would anyone want to live like that?
And yet people still move to this police state, as you point out, in droves…
Absolutely bonkers, to me, at this point. I genuinely don’t understand why someone, who isn’t an authoritarian leftist, would move to this country from another stable Western Block democracy (perhaps excluding New Zealand and Canada).
I didn't think it was possible to create a more revealing and embarrassing PSA song than "Please don't shit in the road, the 21st century introduced plumbing and toilets!"
Well.. Im sure that'll fix the problem. Wait until they find out what happens if you step in front of a bus, or take too much low sodium salt/salt replacement (here in the US the most accessible brand is NuSalt, which is mostly potassium chloride, and you can find it most super markets/grocers).
I realised this before even going into high school. Always asked people why. Got no answer.
20 years later now I know. It's deliberately been done this way for the effects we're seeing now... Ultimately centralising more gov control, making more people "useless" and dependent on the state
New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Portland, Seattle, and San Fransisco should not be deciding anything for their states. I don't know why popular vote is allowed beyond a county level.
I mean fuck, look at what happened in PA. The vast majority of the state was red and yet it didn't matter. As it is now, cities are feudal castles and rural areas are peasant villages, and we all know who decides what in that situation.
And probably Arizona (arguably) and Washington State, too…
In Australia, this is the same…
Outside the capitals, votes for Labor are fairly rare (excluding rusted-on working class areas. Pittsburgh, I suppose, as a US example. Or any “rust belt” city), yet because inner cities vote Labor, Labor wins, both federally and state…
However the suburbs here are sort of the inverse of the US…
Urban decay? Yes. High “black”populations in the inner city? Yes. But crime and dysfunction, and in particular poverty, is largely concentrated in outer suburbia.
Families live in the outer suburbs. Single, young people, and the rich, live in inner cities/suburbs…
Thus, on every electoral map here, you have a central “bullseye” of Labor or Greens (usually it’s the Greens, now), surrounded by Labor inner suburbs, surrounded by a sea of Liberal/National outer suburban and rural areas… The cities are like “bullet wounds”, was the analogy I read recently…
Thus, oddly, the demographics are the reverse of in the US, yet the political result of what part of the city ends up voting for whom, ends up the same, lol…
Yep, at least you guys have the “electoral college”, I guess. That seems to be one of the few things that makes this… Slightly less pronounced, arguably, in the US…
Spare a thought for NZ, which has more than 5 million people, yet no states, no upper house, and now, effectively no real opposition (because Ardern has an absolute majority in parliament)…
They also have special “Māori electorates”, where only Maori can vote for the representatives (Australia is looking at a similar model, with “The Voice”)…
It’s no wonder NZ is so utterly fucked.
Especially with a completely compliant media. As I’m sure our friend in this thread can confirm, if we, in our countries, thought it was bad? Spare a thought for our based Kiwi brethren, lol…
"Funniest" thing about this is that the local (white/mixed) community in this area consistently vote against the politicians from the capital cities
The same thing happens all over the west.
It is particularly horrendous where I live - the local authorities are in constant court battles against the government that wants to turn every large building we have into free housing for fighting age 3rd world males.
Naturally, they lose every case because the judges are selected for their obedience to to regime.
The situation will continue to get worse until those in power locally do the right thing and simply refuse to comply and make it clear that physical force is the only way they're getting what they want.
This is essentially a takeover of vast tracts of land which is meant to belong to all Australians, including national parks. This happens nearly every time that Labor gets into power, at state or federal level.
Here is the madness in NSW, which doesn't even have a Labor state government:
This whole thing is just... Incredibly divisive and destructive. Amazing to see governments of both stripes destroying my country like this. Madness...
Is there anything stopping you from claiming to be aboriginal?
I’ve only been to Australia once and I was so impressed by the aboriginal culture. Every morning queuing for the bar to open. They must have livers of iron!
I could easily "tick the box" on shit, but generally not something that might give me actual financial/material benefit, so it would be rather pointless...
I feel like everyone knows this, hence why numbers jump every census, but those "Aboriginals" are never actually represented in the community, lol...
But like, say, next time I went to public hospital, I could claim to be ATSI without any proof, and it would get me like, a private waiting room, and some extra paternalism/grovelling, but that's about it, lol...
Certainly to get an "indigenous identified position"/easy ride into a Uni course/extra Centrelink gibs - that's not quite so easy, obviously...
Fuck, and Queensland was supposed to be Australia's Florida... I was planning on moving there with all the bullshit going down in New Zealand. Where the hell am I supposed to escape to now?
It ends well once enough whiteys get fed up and the woke cultists end up bulldozed into mass graves. Whiteys are passive until they're not, and when they get mad world wars happen.
This is inevitable. Have you seen the insane cultish "acknowledgement to traditional owners" in CAN, AUS and NZ companies? It's like an opening prayer for any big meeting.
This is what happens when you let Progressive/Marxist cancer take over your society. Cancer just grows until it kills its host.
Dont forge to say liberalism. Liberalism is marxism
I don't know enough about the history of liberalism to make that leap, but I do know that calling them liberals has no effect whatsoever and they don't refer to themselves as such. Calling them Progressives makes them seethe beyond belief because that's what they call themselves and it's right on target.
"Funniest" thing about this is that the local (white/mixed) community in this area consistently vote against the politicians from the capital cities thousands of miles away, and yet their voices are completely ignored, when these decisions are made.
There's like, half a million people in North Qld, maybe more - less than 10% would vote in support of this, they will be objectively disadvantaged by it, and yet they are so disenfranchised by "majority rule" and proportional voting, that what they think literally doesn't matter at all, and a tiny, woke minority wins out once again.
Insane, divisive, and completely unsustainable. Yet this is where we are headed as a country, apparently...
Australia doesn't make anything. They dig up things and send the dirt overseas in bulk carriers and sell houses to each other.
All of the GDP growth of the past X years is from having the highest (per capita) immigration in the western world; which is driving property prices near Melbourne and Sydney.
At some point it has to stop; it is absolutely unsustainable.
At that point there will be an end to luxuries like giving billions to 5% of the population because of their race. There will probably be an end to things like universal health care and the national disability insurance; as both are basically handouts to tiny minorities.
The day people can't afford to put fuel in their car and bread on the table is the day the Sit Down Money ends.
Apparently Labor is going to ban, yes ban menthols, now, after their war on vaping, and more recently fucking paracetamol…
And look, I’m not a smoker (thankfully), but at some point you begin to think - if we live in a country where every “vice” is banned, where movement (of whites, at least) is extremely heavily restricted, where freedoms are increasingly curtailed, and where speech, and “publicly acceptable opinion”, is increasingly restricted and controlled - why would anyone want to live like that?
And yet people still move to this police state, as you point out, in droves…
Absolutely bonkers, to me, at this point. I genuinely don’t understand why someone, who isn’t an authoritarian leftist, would move to this country from another stable Western Block democracy (perhaps excluding New Zealand and Canada).
And yet, they do. God knows why.
If they really wanted to ban intoxicants that ruin the lives they want to protect, they'd ban petrol.
And glue
But come on don't be rama rama friend! You don't sniff petrol from a can.
I didn't think it was possible to create a more revealing and embarrassing PSA song than "Please don't shit in the road, the 21st century introduced plumbing and toilets!"
That video is so sad.
ok wut? lol. why?
They reckon that there are “too many” (six a year, lol) “intentional overdoses” by teenagers attempting suicide…
Because paracetamol is cheap, ubiquitous and ridiculously easy to access…
So that’s their “solution” to this apparent “problem” - to heavily restrict its use.
Yeah, I’m not kidding, lol…
Well.. Im sure that'll fix the problem. Wait until they find out what happens if you step in front of a bus, or take too much low sodium salt/salt replacement (here in the US the most accessible brand is NuSalt, which is mostly potassium chloride, and you can find it most super markets/grocers).
‘Insurance’
The ndis name is such a scam, it’s socialised healthcare, there’s nothing ‘insurance’ about it. Don’t let em use terms like that to mislead
I realised this before even going into high school. Always asked people why. Got no answer.
20 years later now I know. It's deliberately been done this way for the effects we're seeing now... Ultimately centralising more gov control, making more people "useless" and dependent on the state
We have the same problem here in the US.
Certain cities in certain states have way too much influence on politics at both state and national level.
New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Portland, Seattle, and San Fransisco should not be deciding anything for their states. I don't know why popular vote is allowed beyond a county level.
I mean fuck, look at what happened in PA. The vast majority of the state was red and yet it didn't matter. As it is now, cities are feudal castles and rural areas are peasant villages, and we all know who decides what in that situation.
I think that applies to Georgia, too, no?
And probably Arizona (arguably) and Washington State, too…
In Australia, this is the same…
Outside the capitals, votes for Labor are fairly rare (excluding rusted-on working class areas. Pittsburgh, I suppose, as a US example. Or any “rust belt” city), yet because inner cities vote Labor, Labor wins, both federally and state…
However the suburbs here are sort of the inverse of the US…
Urban decay? Yes. High “black”populations in the inner city? Yes. But crime and dysfunction, and in particular poverty, is largely concentrated in outer suburbia.
Families live in the outer suburbs. Single, young people, and the rich, live in inner cities/suburbs…
Thus, on every electoral map here, you have a central “bullseye” of Labor or Greens (usually it’s the Greens, now), surrounded by Labor inner suburbs, surrounded by a sea of Liberal/National outer suburban and rural areas… The cities are like “bullet wounds”, was the analogy I read recently…
Thus, oddly, the demographics are the reverse of in the US, yet the political result of what part of the city ends up voting for whom, ends up the same, lol…
That’s what I meant, though.
Working class “rust belt” equivalent that always votes left. That was my point.
In Australia, that’s Geelong, Wollongong, Newcastle. In the US, I’m thinking Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Detroit, etc.
Same sort of deal with the suburbs here. Sort of.
Yeah, that sounds like Geelong, Newcastle and particularly Fremantle…
I can’t even afford to rent in Fremantle, now, lol, because it’s so “trendy”…
Absolutely full of people like that. Always votes Greens/Labor, tried to ban Australia Day celebrations, you get the idea, lol…
We need an electoral college for deciding things at the state level, cities have more power than they should.
Yep, at least you guys have the “electoral college”, I guess. That seems to be one of the few things that makes this… Slightly less pronounced, arguably, in the US…
Spare a thought for NZ, which has more than 5 million people, yet no states, no upper house, and now, effectively no real opposition (because Ardern has an absolute majority in parliament)…
They also have special “Māori electorates”, where only Maori can vote for the representatives (Australia is looking at a similar model, with “The Voice”)…
It’s no wonder NZ is so utterly fucked.
Especially with a completely compliant media. As I’m sure our friend in this thread can confirm, if we, in our countries, thought it was bad? Spare a thought for our based Kiwi brethren, lol…
Guess NZ doesn't believe in equal protection under the law and I guess Austrailia is going to follow suit.
'Course we say we do over here in the States, but in practice we don't.
state electoral college now
The same thing happens all over the west.
It is particularly horrendous where I live - the local authorities are in constant court battles against the government that wants to turn every large building we have into free housing for fighting age 3rd world males.
Naturally, they lose every case because the judges are selected for their obedience to to regime.
The situation will continue to get worse until those in power locally do the right thing and simply refuse to comply and make it clear that physical force is the only way they're getting what they want.
This is essentially a takeover of vast tracts of land which is meant to belong to all Australians, including national parks. This happens nearly every time that Labor gets into power, at state or federal level.
Here is the madness in NSW, which doesn't even have a Labor state government:
https://spectator.com.au/2022/09/paying-the-rent-with-our-national-parks/
https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/10/mount-warning-banned-which-park-will-be-next/
"Revenge race war by stealth" seems to be the default trend, for this decade, unfortunately...
"Their" ABC's version of events:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-07/cape-york-land-handover-traditional-owners/101414006
This whole thing is just... Incredibly divisive and destructive. Amazing to see governments of both stripes destroying my country like this. Madness...
Is there anything stopping you from claiming to be aboriginal?
I’ve only been to Australia once and I was so impressed by the aboriginal culture. Every morning queuing for the bar to open. They must have livers of iron!
Yeah, it is fraud. You literally must prove your parentage to make the claim.
It is a blatant end of the rule of law.
Kind of depends...
I could easily "tick the box" on shit, but generally not something that might give me actual financial/material benefit, so it would be rather pointless...
I feel like everyone knows this, hence why numbers jump every census, but those "Aboriginals" are never actually represented in the community, lol...
But like, say, next time I went to public hospital, I could claim to be ATSI without any proof, and it would get me like, a private waiting room, and some extra paternalism/grovelling, but that's about it, lol...
Certainly to get an "indigenous identified position"/easy ride into a Uni course/extra Centrelink gibs - that's not quite so easy, obviously...
Don't be rama rama, I have an IQ above 40. Also
Based on the fact that tons of white people do so, I'm thinking not much.
Go look in particular at the people who are managing the gibs who claim to be native.
$10 says rank, dog and piss stench matresses will litter this oh-so noble tithe of land.
Fuck, and Queensland was supposed to be Australia's Florida... I was planning on moving there with all the bullshit going down in New Zealand. Where the hell am I supposed to escape to now?
They don’t call it globohomo for nothing
They have Florida's weather. That's about it.
Fat chance of me getting a green card, otherwise I'd already be there.
South America.
From personal experience, Australian Aborigines are a bunch of drunken retards.
I've never heard one person have a nice thing to say about them.
Making only the whites feel disconnected from the very land they are meant to call their home is not a good idea..
Can't wait for the abos to ravage that land like the Hatians have done to their country.
If you don't leave, you have only yourself to blame when you get shoved in a camp down the line. Australia is a leftist shithole.
Sneaky way for the government to wipe out kangaroos and pretty much any other wildlife they don't want to have to worry about.
If you have the ability to leave Australia, do it now, because soon you won't even be allowed to set foot on land without paying for it.
It ends well once enough whiteys get fed up and the woke cultists end up bulldozed into mass graves. Whiteys are passive until they're not, and when they get mad world wars happen.
This is inevitable. Have you seen the insane cultish "acknowledgement to traditional owners" in CAN, AUS and NZ companies? It's like an opening prayer for any big meeting.