Globalist piece of shit Sam Harris has deleted his twitter account.
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The comment calling him “Zen Stiller” had me rolling...
LOL! I thought I was the only one who noticed that similarity
I never got the hype behind him or Peterson, (aside from Peterson saying don’t dictate my speech). Maybe it’s the delusional aspect of being an “atheist” or anti-theist but he never made solid arguments and came across more like Jon Stewart minus the ability to be funny.
I never liked Sam Harris at any point in time.
It was mainly arrogant atheists who masterbated over this pseudo-intellectual clown.
Peterson is a milquetoast self help guru. He has some good ideas but he is too much of a weak cuck thanks to his Canadian background.
The most chad argument that I heard him make was on why are females allowed to wear makeup in the workplace when it is designed to be sexual by it’s very nature. Though he never pressed the concept it was refreshing to see he was willing to call out some small form of female vanity.
Jordan Peterson's comments on how Kavanaugh should have dropped out after the fake allegations, his attacks on MGTOWs and his current retarded views that anonymous accounts should be banned on Twitter demonstrate why I don't have much respect for the Canadian.
Dont forget he wanted everyone to take the vax and agreed with lockdowns, until it was too late, then he rescinded.
And for the first half of the pandemic, he was detoxing in Russia in a coma because he was in denial about his benzo addiction and couldn't hack standard North American celebrity treatment.
I didn't see that but yeah that is just pathetic behavior.
We can't expect much else from a Canadian college professor.
Peterson was still mostly Blue Pilled back then. He could see some problems emerging but he still had faith in the systems and people running them, generally speaking.
Now, he's completely Red Pilled. He's apologised for some of his previous statements and I don't think it's a bad thing for someone to admit their failings.
He's also an extremely good clinical psychologist and his lectures on psychology are absolutely fantastic and incredibly insightful. Most of his lectures are available on youtube and other such places. I strongly recommend watching them. He is truly brilliant.
His takes on not allowing anonymous accounts and calling them narcissistic psychopathic Machievillians (two buzzword non-psychology terms) is like a week old. You are gonna have to wait until he goes a bit without a fuckup to try and sell this lie.
Also as someone else trained in clinical psychology, his lectures are pretty standard and only standout because people literally know nothing about psychology beyond what they let the Left feed them for decades. That's how you'd describe most of his fans even, "I'm so ignorant I've never heard obvious things said out loud so to me this is mindblowing."
Got any good recommendations of basic and more advance psychology books?
I'm personally a big fan of reading Philosophical works and applying them more than Psych books. Psych books are constantly constrained by either being paid shills, or having to pre-empt damage control to avoid getting cancelled. And if you don't have enough knowledge to catch those things when you see them, you'll get misled easily. One specific one that I credit with radically changing how I thought of human social relations was Nietzche's Genealogy of Morals, specifically the piece on how the sick are the greatest danger to the healthy. I know Nietzche is a meme, but most people don't read beyond the bite sized memeable bits to find the much better stuff.
But in terms of them, generally anything in the Bio Psyche category will be clean enough though its far more dry. I gleaned a lot from reading the DSM 1-5 and the discussions had between versions about changes and why they needed to happen, which then lead to good jumping off points on things that catch your interest. The discussions regarding removing the Autism Spectrum from DSM5 will probably appeal to a lot of people here.
Similarly, reading up famous "studies" and then trying to poke holes in it will give you a lot of practical knowledge to see marketing and misinformation as it happens, because the media uses "studies" to launch their talking points. The Black Doll and Stanford experiments are landmark, but so full of holes its hilarious and that's a great place to start doing such. Once you get good at it, you can start getting actual useful data even from complete shams and lies of a work because they usually aren't smart enough to see what parts they failed to scrub.
I know that's all kinda boring and vague, but I got my education through near a decade in schooling so it was gleaned through such channels instead of easily digestible books.
I have seen a few of his lectures on psychology.
He is able to communicate certain concepts well but nothing worthy to the level of being called brilliant.
I think there is such a thing as being blackpilled, but still wanting to be a player in the game - or having professional boundaries that make it to where your thoughts rarely drift to the real discomforts. The knowing that all of your peers, even your family, the woman you love, your family, your friends, they would all drop you in a heartbeat if they heard the real truth of what you really think.
Your life would be destroyed so what you really think hardly ever makes it past the cognitive barriers of what allows you to justify staying afloat in this veritable hellscape relatively unmolested and employable, but again these pervasive thoughts are still there chewing at your psyche, so you settle for the next best thing wherein you hope that by fixing young men they might come to their own conclusions; all the better they hate you in the end because you hate yourself for being so weak. You get addicted to benzos and shut off until the narrative moves forward, and you let a little more slip. Hoping, dreaming of the day that you can finally be free of being utterly tongue-tied and hopelessly cuck-caged. I think there are a lot of people exactly like this.
I think people should pay attention to him with maybe a bit of a queer eye, but we often try to make heroes of people who even so much as wink at the "alt-right". As a result you have people who are very disappointed in any attempt at self-preservation or having pieces on the board. You'd think by now hero worship would be dead, but for some reason that optimism still exists. I think the pessimism is equally unwarranted.
There are no more heroes, simply, players in the game.
He's only a hero because so many young men are utterly lost in our feminized culture.
His advice used to be common-sense. Now it's taken as some sort of Revelation.
Taking what he says as some kind of revelation is a sad, sad symptom of the context we live in. Common sense is now faux pas.
Call me when he names the Jew.
That's his best trait: he actually thinks on his feet in public and is willing to admit when he's wrong (a giant asset for a public intellectual, something Harris ought to have tried to mimic). He's also very careful about qualifying his generalities.
However, politically he's a run-of-the-mill conservative, which is no surprise given his ethical system.
I've yet to know why people hype Peterson so much
even when I was a cringe le atheist, dawkings and chris hitchens were less cringe than this dude.
I agree about Sam and Peterson, but idk why throw all of Canada under the bus. Very small percentage of the country even voted for Trudeau, and there was the Trucker Convoy months ago.
Harris just wreaks of the kind of guy who would huff his own farts like he’s hyperventilating.
I do have to wonder what 2000s Sam Harris would make of 2020s Sam Harris. I can't help but think that 2000s Sam Harris would be quite disappointed in what he becomes.
I get the hype behind them both. The left. That's what is hyping them up, same as Shapiro. They're frauds, infiltrators, fake right. Propped up as opinion leaders by the media to defang and neuter the right.
Ben Shapiro is the definition of controlled opposition.
The little weasel was calling everyone who didn't want to take the shit covid vax dopes.
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1336340877585707009
I've also never once met anyone who supported him in the slightest, outside broken clock comments and talking about his sister. Yet somehow he still gets massive talk and coverage.
His sister has nice tits.
Literally the only nice thing I can say about that weasel Ben Shapiro.
I mean, it almost feels like a mockery that she is now some breastmilk donor talking all day about that. She can't have missed her own popularity and still decided that was the thing to do.
That is hilarious.
My experience is nobody likes him personally but he gets support because he's correct factually most of the time and has mild takes
Ben Shapiro has been largely unwavering in his criticism of the trans-trender mania in the Western world and for that he should receive some credence. Regardless of everything else, including his frothing-at-the-mouth support for Israel and using his podcast about American politics to endlessly yammer on about the rights of Israel. rofl
He's also since done a 180 on the COVID shot.
Sam Harris was just (and is) generally intelligent. The thing is that, as a Globalist, he can't see Trump as anything beyond purely evil, because Trump is resisting what he sees as an innate moral imperative of Globalism.
However, the appeal of the New Atheist movement at the time was that they were actually intelligent, articulate, and making reasonable arguments; compared to the Evangelicals who never made any good cultural arguments at all. There is a reason that Crocoduck, "the banana perfectly fits the hand", "tides go in, tides go out", "Pokemon are demonic", are all memes. The Evangelicals (for about 30 years) made appeals to authority as justification for anything they believed, pushed divine command theory as an ethical framework, and when they were forced to try and explain their own positions rationally they tended to take a bad faith approach. Although people have been saying, "The Evangelicals may have been right" about things, the problem is that: how the hell would anyone have known that? TentElephant is more informed on institutionalized sexual degeneration than the entire Evangelical movement combined. Had any Evangelical known who John Money was, they probably would have made more progress.
Peterson is a tipping point in that he's one of the first pro-Christian intellectuals, making good arguments, I've seen in the entirety of my life. Not only does he know about Cultural Marxism, he also happens to know why lots of Christian traditions work and can explain it. He was brought to a private Christian university to sit in on a panel discussion about religion in America, next to the head of the university as well as their leading academic on theology, and it was like he was talking to teenagers. They don't really know anything about why things are the way they are, why they believe what they do, or what is actually happening from the aggression of Fabian Socialism.
Contrast this with someone like Michael Knowles: who has a deep grasp of Theology, and Luke Avery: who has a deep grasp of the biblical metaphors and meanings. They are basically the only 'Christian Intellectuals' that I can think of without having to refer back to Kant, and the "intellectual" is being stretched to incredulity there. I've personally turned around quite a bit on Glenn Beck, but... the man is not an intellectual powerhouse.
Harris is a fucktard. A smart man would realize that only mutual respect keeps him from getting curbstomped and he wouldn't be so quick to piss on people
I think he's a smart man who is ideologically possessed by Trump Derangement Syndrome, due to the fact that he is embedded within Globalist structures.
Trump is an existential threat to him, because Trump is an existential threat to the powers that help to fund Sam, who is conditioned to accept their narratives.
You can't be smart and be a physically and mentally weak man antagonizing stronger men while also actively trying to tear down social barriers that keep you breathing
He may be intelligent but he's not smart
Peterson got famous in part do to that interview with Cathy Newman, he managed to intelligently articulate counter-arguments to feminist ideology to the point Cathy and feminism were proved to be just power hungry frauds. What he did wrong is not focusing on guys, in the beginning he used to defend that his work focused on young men like it was a bad thing, that was what kind of put me off a bit. In the end his work does help young men in society and hence the left hate him.
He got famous after that interview mostly because Cathy Newman is a blithering retard
She does not seem like a retard, even in the interview she was competent and well spoken. That is why the interview was such a success for Peterson.
So you're saying that the interview was a success for Peterson because she is a slightly-less-than-blithering retard?
Kind of yes. There is no interest in taking down someone weak or stupid. She is no intellectual, don't get me wrong, but she is neither a fool nor incompetent.
She was famous. Period. The Peterson interview revealed this.
So you're saying that she is just a clown and inadequate instead? Sorry. It's great when they give you such easy ammunition to mock them. As a mark of honour for all she has done for "men's rights", I hope her gravestone will read:
Cathy Newman
1959 - 20xx
"So you're saying she's dead now?"
So you're saying she's a lobster?
IIRC, Peterson had already been on OG YT Rogan prior to the Newman interview.
The Newman interview made for great memes, but Peterson was already pretty well-known at that point.
I respected him when he left Patreon to support Sargon + others who were deplatformed for misinterpretations of things they said on other platforms.
But Trump nuked his brain.
Or maybe he just didn't want to pay the $8?
The majority of American atheists are married to the far left. It's a uniquely American phenomenon that you don't see in their British counterparts.
Godless nihilists tend to be the base of the left.
How is it different in Britain?
Aren't most Labour supporters atheist commie scum?
The difference is that people in the UK generally don't talk about religion, and the Church of England is the most apathetic, pointless church you could imagine. You can literally find vicars who don't believe God is actually real.
Most English people are agnostics or atheists, but few will report themselves as such for the simple reason that they've never given any of it any thought and will presume themselves christians because they put a christmas tree up every year.
To be fair, most english people are cuckolds, there is no actual british conservative movement worth a damn, and their country and people are already doomed to be lost entirely within a few short decades.
I agree. The Englishman has been hollowed out by decades of welfare state enervation and feminized by the usual suspects.
If you haven't already, and want to read a really depressing but highly entertaining and well-written commentary on England's decay, try "Our Culture, or What's Left of It" and "Not with a Bang but a Whimper" by Theodore Dalrymple.
This brilliant guy is who I thought I had found in Christopher Hitchens, but Hitchens is a cynical prig in comparison. I think the big difference is Hitchens' strident, boorish, ugly atheism that worships materialism vs. Dalrymple's civilized, tolerant, polite atheism that appreciates Christianity's cultural value.
Sam Harris is and has always been a lightweight, a soft-spoken monotone boor.
He's jewish
Yeah but if you say it out loud then all the ones here have to acknowledge how much of the Left and Woke they helped out and supported until it came for them.
And rather than take that kind of blame, they'd rather deflect.
Was happy to see that this piece of trash took itself out.
Maybe now everyone with a brain will finally stop listening to that atheist retard
The funny thing about his atheism is that it holds true to the sense of there not being a sky fairy, but not that there is a transcending power permeating reality by which Harris encourages interest in meditation and eastern religious theologies.
Typical bullshit about different tones people's superstition being exotic and cool. White people stuff is boring and bad though.
I don't count Christianity as 'white people stuff'. It replaced white people stuff.
Religious atheists are really some of the most annoying ones.
The only "mainstream" atheist worth their meme is the one who literally coined the term "meme". Coincidentally, he's also hated by the mainstream leftists and what he called "nu-atheists". Weird how the ones that have principles and things worth speaking up about, tend to be the ones the left wants to silence.
You think Dawkins would be more popular and accepted by the left since he thinks "mild pedophilia" is a good thing
so hes sure there is a god, it just can't be the Christian god because it doesn't affirm his leftist sensibilities
Christianity has meditation too. Eastern meditation makes you a schizo; see Aum Shrinkyo
I remember after the 2020 election Harris posting a picture of a blue wave that that was the first time I realized this guy was not who he pretended to be.
Twitter cannot die fast enough. I'm so tired of everything just being twitter drama.
idk why anyone took this guy seriously, he literally said during a TED talk that Jesus ordered his followers to commit Jihad.
And nothing of value was lost. But I'm betting he'll be back shortly. Dude's a narcissistic grifter.
Possibly preempting the inevitable suspension for being part of the pedo clique.
I can only hope that getting the fuck off of Twitter can re-orient this guy's brain to accept facts and data going into the future.
Sam Harris' Trump Derangement Syndrome is pretty out there, but his criticism of the Islamic religion still gives him some credence in my book. He also didn't let himself be swayed by that anti-intellectual BLM insanity, for which he also receives my acknowledgement.
Just the TDS increasingly makes him an object of scorn and ridicule. I think he mostly uses TDS to extend an olive branch to other left-leaning fence-sitters. "I oppose Trump as well. You don't have to side with the lunatic asylum otherwise known as the DNC. You can reject them both."
Someone road the coat tails of his famous parents to undeserved position of authority and acts like it still.