Let's pretend that is true for a moment. Why is line go up more important than a cohesive high trust society where small children could safely wander the streets alone?
Even if it is true, $9.1 billion may be 'line go up', but only if we zoom the chart in to a hilarious degree;
U.S. gdp for 2021 was $22,996.10 billion, a 10.06% increase from 2020.
U.S. gdp for 2020 was $20,893.74 billion, a 2.24% decline from 2019.
U.S. gdp for 2019 was $21,372.57 billion, a 4.12% increase from 2018.
U.S. gdp for 2018 was $20,527.16 billion, a 5.38% increase from 2017.
9.1 billion is fraction of a fraction of a percent. On a national level, it's fucking nothing. It's like you letting an immigrant rape your daughter for 25 cents.
yeah and the true non-propaganda stats are that illegals cost the US taxpayer a net loss of somewhere between 50-100k lifetime or so, which multiplied by 10 million illegals, means a 500 billion to 1 trillion loss.
Let's pretend that is true for a moment. Why is line go up more important than a cohesive high trust society where small children could safely wander the streets alone?
High earning Indian doctors and Filipina nurses probably aren't going to rape you like a Swedish Muslim will or groom your children like a British Muslim will.
So I don't mind high educated high earner immigrants. Even if they're Chinese, as long as the Chinese person is unquestionably loyal to the USA not the CCP.
Not necessarily. This may be true for some countries, but not the US. The US is, by it's nature, a propositional nation, founded by a Liberal Revolution, which tried to universalize "ancient English rights and liberties" into Natural Rights.
As such, those philosophical values are more important than anything else for integration. Importing a million authoritarian Swedes would be far more dangerous than importing a million anti-Communist Taiwanese.
This is not the case for all countries (probably not even most), but it is the case for the US based on it's foundation. For example, neither group swathe could be tolerated in Ireland because of it's ethnic, religious, and cultural distinctions.
No no no, that's too easy. Let's stick entirely within economics since they want to make it an economic argument:
Why would we be importing foreigners to improve the economy instead of focusing on making American workers more competitive and productive?
If you live in a 3rd world shithole than needs development from foreigners, which clearly the US must be, then why flood the country with migrants when you should be using only the most highly-educated and productive foreigners to train your workforce, not replace it.
The reign of quantity is an inherently self-destructive mindset that tears at the foundations of civilization and only functions to legitimize technocratic rule. Line go up doesn't inherently translate to better material conditions for the populace; it means line go up.
Most of the west, where real purchasing power has been decreasing for some time. When at one time a lowly laborer could afford a decent home, many people are huddled in tiny apartments downing bottles of anti-depressants. GDP is the absolutely worst metric. It goes up when governments print money, which typically spurs asset inflation.
You mean like when you let in millions of people who may or may not even be employable? The same ones who drive everybody out of lower-income housing and turn it into racially-segregated, crime infested ghettoes?
You are so hilarious with pretending to be an expert of every single fucking country on this planet. Last week you were reeling about the south Korean government betraying you, now you are lunatic wanting about us.
Any bets on which county is next? I am sure Azerbaijan, Vietnam and Laos are super excited for their turn.
Texans pay between $579 million and $717 million each year for public hospital districts to provide uncompensated care for illegal aliens.
Texans paid $152 million to house illegal criminal aliens for just one year.
Texans pay between $62 million and $90 million to include illegal aliens in the state Emergency Medicaid program.
Texans paid more than $1 million for The Family Violence Program to provide services to illegal aliens for one year.
Texans pay between $30 million and $38 million per year on perinatal coverage for illegal aliens through the Children’s Health Insurance Program.
Texans pay between $31 million and $63 million to educate unaccompanied alien children each year.
And that leaves out the #1 cost for illegals: public school for their kids, which costs $12,000 PER KID. [note the above only states "unaccompanied" which are far more rare] "Mr. Huennekens, of the immigration reform group, said the state’s programs for students with limited English proficiency cost more than $7 billion in 2016."
Before they were deleted, almost all of these comments were extremely anti illegal immigration. I was really surprised to see it considering that it’s Reddit. Not surprised to see the comments deleted, and it’s very sus that the original post has so many upvotes given the sentiment of the comments.
You can see that they've made a habit out of shadowbanning users in the lower comment threads. All those people not knowing that they've been shadowbanned by some pathetic Reddit janny.
The importation of under-the-table laborers who don't get the protection of minimum wage or worker safety laws, and are perpetually blackmailed with the threat of deportation, is a net gain to society.
Looks like the left is finally bringing back slave states.
The "cost" of less refugees is specifically using them as slave labour. Their "cost" is that goods and services cannot be done at wages that the local population don't want to do for those prices.
It's almost like leftists love the idea of a slave class without calling it as such. But then again, they've always loves slavery.
Let's pretend that is true for a moment. Why is line go up more important than a cohesive high trust society where small children could safely wander the streets alone?
That was one of my arguments after I got in to an argument with a good friend. Lets look at the consequences:
pros:
If money is the only reason then you are just selling out.
My second argument is what would you do if suddenly a bunch of immigrants moved in your rich, white, neighborhood?
Even if it is true, $9.1 billion may be 'line go up', but only if we zoom the chart in to a hilarious degree;
U.S. gdp for 2021 was $22,996.10 billion, a 10.06% increase from 2020.
U.S. gdp for 2020 was $20,893.74 billion, a 2.24% decline from 2019.
U.S. gdp for 2019 was $21,372.57 billion, a 4.12% increase from 2018.
U.S. gdp for 2018 was $20,527.16 billion, a 5.38% increase from 2017.
9.1 billion is fraction of a fraction of a percent. On a national level, it's fucking nothing. It's like you letting an immigrant rape your daughter for 25 cents.
yeah and the true non-propaganda stats are that illegals cost the US taxpayer a net loss of somewhere between 50-100k lifetime or so, which multiplied by 10 million illegals, means a 500 billion to 1 trillion loss.
not just 25c, but think of the amazing food
High earning Indian doctors and Filipina nurses probably aren't going to rape you like a Swedish Muslim will or groom your children like a British Muslim will.
So I don't mind high educated high earner immigrants. Even if they're Chinese, as long as the Chinese person is unquestionably loyal to the USA not the CCP.
We actually don't have to live in a country where "doesn't rape children" is the bar for entry, believe it or not
The "high educated high earners" still contribute to the erosion of cultural cohesion and high trust and they need to go back too
Not necessarily. This may be true for some countries, but not the US. The US is, by it's nature, a propositional nation, founded by a Liberal Revolution, which tried to universalize "ancient English rights and liberties" into Natural Rights.
As such, those philosophical values are more important than anything else for integration. Importing a million authoritarian Swedes would be far more dangerous than importing a million anti-Communist Taiwanese.
This is not the case for all countries (probably not even most), but it is the case for the US based on it's foundation. For example, neither group swathe could be tolerated in Ireland because of it's ethnic, religious, and cultural distinctions.
No no no, that's too easy. Let's stick entirely within economics since they want to make it an economic argument:
Why would we be importing foreigners to improve the economy instead of focusing on making American workers more competitive and productive?
If you live in a 3rd world shithole than needs development from foreigners, which clearly the US must be, then why flood the country with migrants when you should be using only the most highly-educated and productive foreigners to train your workforce, not replace it.
The reign of quantity is an inherently self-destructive mindset that tears at the foundations of civilization and only functions to legitimize technocratic rule. Line go up doesn't inherently translate to better material conditions for the populace; it means line go up.
Most of the west, where real purchasing power has been decreasing for some time. When at one time a lowly laborer could afford a decent home, many people are huddled in tiny apartments downing bottles of anti-depressants. GDP is the absolutely worst metric. It goes up when governments print money, which typically spurs asset inflation.
You mean like when you let in millions of people who may or may not even be employable? The same ones who drive everybody out of lower-income housing and turn it into racially-segregated, crime infested ghettoes?
What are 'better conditions'?
Would you rather live in the United Femdom with a slightly higher GDP or in a country that is not a 'feminist despotism'?
He is being smard again. For some reason he hates us more than countries with legit feminazi laws, lol.
He has to convince himself that his retardation is the only solution to feminazism.
You are so hilarious with pretending to be an expert of every single fucking country on this planet. Last week you were reeling about the south Korean government betraying you, now you are lunatic wanting about us.
Any bets on which county is next? I am sure Azerbaijan, Vietnam and Laos are super excited for their turn.
It'll be the damned Andorrans getting their comeuppance next!
I think he will blame Estonia for Azerbaijan invading Armenia again.
Women's War II, which the womens started in order to get more men killed! Confess!
And yet Hungarians dont have to worry about trucks of peace.
Maybe the dumbest thing you’ve ever said, and that bar is orbiting the moon.
Oh and a quick google search yields these numbers for just one state, Texas: https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/ag-paxton-illegal-immigration-costs-texas-taxpayers-over-850-million-each-year
And that leaves out the #1 cost for illegals: public school for their kids, which costs $12,000 PER KID. [note the above only states "unaccompanied" which are far more rare] "Mr. Huennekens, of the immigration reform group, said the state’s programs for students with limited English proficiency cost more than $7 billion in 2016."
And that's just 1 state.
One state that more than offsets the national statistic, all on its own.
If this is true...why does Martha's Vineyard not want a net profit?
Well they're very generous. They have enough money so they just want to share with the rest of us poors.
They're so generous for giving all those illegal aliens to our National Gaurdsmen.
#SupportOurTroops
Before they were deleted, almost all of these comments were extremely anti illegal immigration. I was really surprised to see it considering that it’s Reddit. Not surprised to see the comments deleted, and it’s very sus that the original post has so many upvotes given the sentiment of the comments.
Not just deleted, shadowbanned.
was it during the weekend? shills don't work those days
Trash sub shadowbanned my account there, rofl.
All those people were shadowbanned.
You can see that they've made a habit out of shadowbanning users in the lower comment threads. All those people not knowing that they've been shadowbanned by some pathetic Reddit janny.
Oops, the truth almost slipped out.
We can't have that.
Looks like the left is finally bringing back slave states.
They always wanted slaves. Slaves are the essence of social control. It's a moral imperative to enslave the world in order to 'correct' it.
Since no link or source was include I can't post directly to it, but https://www.reveddit.com/ might be able to show some of the deleted posts.
https://www.reveddit.com/v/science/comments/xistr8/refugees_are_inaccurately_portrayed_as_a_drain_on/?ps_after=1663635929%2C1663637835%2C1663639078%2C1663640161%2C1663641307%2C1663642765%2C1663644776%2C1663647820
Looks like a method to weed out the disloyal to me.
The "cost" of less refugees is specifically using them as slave labour. Their "cost" is that goods and services cannot be done at wages that the local population don't want to do for those prices.
It's almost like leftists love the idea of a slave class without calling it as such. But then again, they've always loves slavery.