Let's pretend that is true for a moment. Why is line go up more important than a cohesive high trust society where small children could safely wander the streets alone?
Even if it is true, $9.1 billion may be 'line go up', but only if we zoom the chart in to a hilarious degree;
U.S. gdp for 2021 was $22,996.10 billion, a 10.06% increase from 2020.
U.S. gdp for 2020 was $20,893.74 billion, a 2.24% decline from 2019.
U.S. gdp for 2019 was $21,372.57 billion, a 4.12% increase from 2018.
U.S. gdp for 2018 was $20,527.16 billion, a 5.38% increase from 2017.
9.1 billion is fraction of a fraction of a percent. On a national level, it's fucking nothing. It's like you letting an immigrant rape your daughter for 25 cents.
yeah and the true non-propaganda stats are that illegals cost the US taxpayer a net loss of somewhere between 50-100k lifetime or so, which multiplied by 10 million illegals, means a 500 billion to 1 trillion loss.
Let's pretend that is true for a moment. Why is line go up more important than a cohesive high trust society where small children could safely wander the streets alone?
High earning Indian doctors and Filipina nurses probably aren't going to rape you like a Swedish Muslim will or groom your children like a British Muslim will.
So I don't mind high educated high earner immigrants. Even if they're Chinese, as long as the Chinese person is unquestionably loyal to the USA not the CCP.
Not necessarily. This may be true for some countries, but not the US. The US is, by it's nature, a propositional nation, founded by a Liberal Revolution, which tried to universalize "ancient English rights and liberties" into Natural Rights.
As such, those philosophical values are more important than anything else for integration. Importing a million authoritarian Swedes would be far more dangerous than importing a million anti-Communist Taiwanese.
This is not the case for all countries (probably not even most), but it is the case for the US based on it's foundation. For example, neither group swathe could be tolerated in Ireland because of it's ethnic, religious, and cultural distinctions.
No no no, that's too easy. Let's stick entirely within economics since they want to make it an economic argument:
Why would we be importing foreigners to improve the economy instead of focusing on making American workers more competitive and productive?
If you live in a 3rd world shithole than needs development from foreigners, which clearly the US must be, then why flood the country with migrants when you should be using only the most highly-educated and productive foreigners to train your workforce, not replace it.
The reign of quantity is an inherently self-destructive mindset that tears at the foundations of civilization and only functions to legitimize technocratic rule. Line go up doesn't inherently translate to better material conditions for the populace; it means line go up.
Line go up doesn't inherently translate to better material conditions for the populace; it means line go up.
But the vast majority of the time, strong markets and rising GDP do translate to better conditions for the population.
Are there any countries with strong financial markets and rising GDP where things have gotten worse for the people, disregarding China's zero covid power trip?
Most of the west, where real purchasing power has been decreasing for some time. When at one time a lowly laborer could afford a decent home, many people are huddled in tiny apartments downing bottles of anti-depressants. GDP is the absolutely worst metric. It goes up when governments print money, which typically spurs asset inflation.
Let's pretend that is true for a moment. Why is line go up more important than a cohesive high trust society where small children could safely wander the streets alone?
That was one of my arguments after I got in to an argument with a good friend. Lets look at the consequences:
pros:
If money is the only reason then you are just selling out.
My second argument is what would you do if suddenly a bunch of immigrants moved in your rich, white, neighborhood?
Even if it is true, $9.1 billion may be 'line go up', but only if we zoom the chart in to a hilarious degree;
U.S. gdp for 2021 was $22,996.10 billion, a 10.06% increase from 2020.
U.S. gdp for 2020 was $20,893.74 billion, a 2.24% decline from 2019.
U.S. gdp for 2019 was $21,372.57 billion, a 4.12% increase from 2018.
U.S. gdp for 2018 was $20,527.16 billion, a 5.38% increase from 2017.
9.1 billion is fraction of a fraction of a percent. On a national level, it's fucking nothing. It's like you letting an immigrant rape your daughter for 25 cents.
yeah and the true non-propaganda stats are that illegals cost the US taxpayer a net loss of somewhere between 50-100k lifetime or so, which multiplied by 10 million illegals, means a 500 billion to 1 trillion loss.
not just 25c, but think of the amazing food
High earning Indian doctors and Filipina nurses probably aren't going to rape you like a Swedish Muslim will or groom your children like a British Muslim will.
So I don't mind high educated high earner immigrants. Even if they're Chinese, as long as the Chinese person is unquestionably loyal to the USA not the CCP.
We actually don't have to live in a country where "doesn't rape children" is the bar for entry, believe it or not
The "high educated high earners" still contribute to the erosion of cultural cohesion and high trust and they need to go back too
Not necessarily. This may be true for some countries, but not the US. The US is, by it's nature, a propositional nation, founded by a Liberal Revolution, which tried to universalize "ancient English rights and liberties" into Natural Rights.
As such, those philosophical values are more important than anything else for integration. Importing a million authoritarian Swedes would be far more dangerous than importing a million anti-Communist Taiwanese.
This is not the case for all countries (probably not even most), but it is the case for the US based on it's foundation. For example, neither group swathe could be tolerated in Ireland because of it's ethnic, religious, and cultural distinctions.
No no no, that's too easy. Let's stick entirely within economics since they want to make it an economic argument:
Why would we be importing foreigners to improve the economy instead of focusing on making American workers more competitive and productive?
If you live in a 3rd world shithole than needs development from foreigners, which clearly the US must be, then why flood the country with migrants when you should be using only the most highly-educated and productive foreigners to train your workforce, not replace it.
https://www.rt.com/business/563106-eu-bread-prices-record-high/
Because even the dumpster fire that is the EU pays less for food than Hungary.
"Line goes up" is the most important metric for any country. If you prioritize anything else, the standard of life craters.
The reign of quantity is an inherently self-destructive mindset that tears at the foundations of civilization and only functions to legitimize technocratic rule. Line go up doesn't inherently translate to better material conditions for the populace; it means line go up.
But the vast majority of the time, strong markets and rising GDP do translate to better conditions for the population.
Are there any countries with strong financial markets and rising GDP where things have gotten worse for the people, disregarding China's zero covid power trip?
Most of the west, where real purchasing power has been decreasing for some time. When at one time a lowly laborer could afford a decent home, many people are huddled in tiny apartments downing bottles of anti-depressants. GDP is the absolutely worst metric. It goes up when governments print money, which typically spurs asset inflation.
What are 'better conditions'?
Would you rather live in the United Femdom with a slightly higher GDP or in a country that is not a 'feminist despotism'?
Neither. One is falling apart because of poor economics and one is falling apart because of a woman's power trip.
And yet Hungarians dont have to worry about trucks of peace.
Maybe the dumbest thing you’ve ever said, and that bar is orbiting the moon.
I don't think so. Imagine having a worse economy than the countries killing themselves.